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Please Note that this thread is for REVIEWS only.
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Posts which do not broadly conform to the guidelines will be REMOVED!
Bad reviews are just as welcome as good ones, we are lucky on here that we can give a bad review without risking the advertisers, unlike the mags!
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#197 18 Jun 2010 at 10.03am | | |
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CORK GREYS PRODIGY + 12ft 3lb
I have owned a set of 3 of these rods since March 2010 and so far am very impressed with them. I've struggled over the last 10 years to find a rod that I got on with since I got rid of my Original Amorphous AKN12SU's. I don't think I'll ever have another rod that could be comparable to what some deem to be the best ever made and still regret to this day selling them.
Budget and circumstances dictated I could never spend more than £120 per rod and after using Chub Vantages 2.75lb (one of which snapped on it's third outing) and Daiwa Mission X 3lb (£100 for 3 - ebay impulse buy) which were as stiff as broom handles with poor accuracy, I decided to look at getting rods I would be happy with and suited to my current venue - a 5/6 acre estate lake with plenty of weed, lillies and snags with fish to 40lb +.
My requirement was a circa 3lb curve rod with a good fish playing action with some power required for the odd cast with a small pva bag. Likewise I needed a rod that would be capable of pulling a fish away from snags and through weed. Range wise the maximum cast at my syndicate is approx. 80 yards but at the odd alternative venue I may need to hit the 100-120 yard mark.
I started looking at the New Amorphous but quickly realised that I didn't need a rod with price tag to break the bank. Numerous visits to my local tackleshop followed by a few phonecalls and web searches I found a great deal with 'ERICS' and they arrived the following day.
First outing with them and caught my first fish from my new venue, a 20lb 7oz lean common, from a very snaggy corner of the lake. A great start and very impressed with the playing action after all the simulated bends at a shop - nothing quite compares to the real thing! A couple more fish in similar circumstances and I was getting more and more confident that I had some very well suited rods for my current style of angling.
A slight change of area fished on the next couple of sessions required a slightly different style of fishing. Casting to visible underwater features between 60-80 yards and accuracy was key. First cast bang on the money with a 2 oz square pear. A few hours later I had myself a fighting fit 24lb 8oz common that decided it would kite towards lilly pads at 80 yards to my right then head for 2 islands approximately 40 yards to my left. The rod was soft enough at the tip but reserves of power were evident in the butt section to take control. It couldn't get any better or could it?
About 30 mins later another run off the same spot and a big heavy lump on the end was splashing behind the lillies, lots of side strain and it just went solid. The rod was being tested to it's limit as it curved round. It was at this point that I had a flash back to an article I read on the X-Flites snapping and my brain was playing tricks on me telling me it was the Prodigy +'s. After a few minutes the lump was free due to constant pressure then a few seconds later I could feel the line pulling through a bed of weed at approximately 60 yards and I was really getting concerned as to whether this fish would see the bank. Second time of solid resistance with the few kicks here and there told me the fish was still on. I had an option of getting a boat but I was on the lake on my own and that was a last resort. The weed eventually shifted and a few more minutes of pumping what seemed like half a tonne of weed to the net resulted in a big old scaley mirror of 38lb 10oz. A new PB and a stern test for the PRODIGY blank.
Casting wise I fished a different venue requiring a 120 yard cast to a channel in between 2 islands and was hitting the same mark with a 3 oz pear with accuracy. These rods really fit the bill for me and I'm sure will do for others who require a similar type of rod. They are by no means big casting rods and if you are looking for rods to cast beyond the horizon look elsewhere.
The quality and feel of the rod are great bearing in mind they are asian factory made. I went for the cork finish just because I wanted a change and traditional looks. The warranty is neither here or there but offers a bit of protection although with an excess to pay in the event of the same thing that happened to my original Vantages (pre-greys takeover). Even if I could afford a new set of custom daiwa, freespirit or century blanks I wouldn't want to swap. I can't recommend them highly enough.
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#196 5 Feb 2010 at 12.36pm | | |
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#192 24 Oct 2009 at 12.12pm | | |
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JRC J2's
I'm writing this after using them for two months in 2.75tc, I have had some nice fish and fished in small ponds to large resi's.
I won these rods from Total Carp magazine, but you can buy them for anything between £100 to £150 (that was the RRp on the invoice)
LOOKS
The rods themselves seem to tick a few boxes but I feel JRC have concentrated heavily on the rods performance as opposed to the looks. The rod is very thin, infact I am suprised at the performance considering how thin they have made the rod. The handle is shrink wrapped up to the reel seat and this makes the rods look very nice. With the 50mm butt ring they certainly look impressive rods. HOWEVER the reel seat on the top side look very cheap considering the price tag. They look like a bit of cheap material was used and glued to the rod just to fit in the gap...this could just be the rods I recieved though. Finally for looks, the JRC logo is located above the handle with the J2 symbol above that, and a small JRC logo on the end of the handle. Also the rods seem (and i say seem for this reason) to have joining lines on both sections of the rod...but i dont think the eyes line up when the lines line up. (sorry if thats confusing)
LOOKS 3.5/5
PERFORMANCE
I beleive these rods have been made with casting distance in mind as opposed to other areas such as fish playing, although many reviews from magazines say otherwise. I have been casting a 3 onze lead very impressive distances but because im using them for fishing (as opposed to practise or testing them to the max in fields) and dont require heavier leads, I believe much better distances could be achieved. With this is mind, I have found that playing fish is enjoyable too, the rods pack alot of power considering they are slightly softer than I originall thought. I would love to try 3.25tc to see what difference there is.
4/5 for PERFORMANCE
Additional notes
The rods come with protective ring covers for the 50mm rings...very handy and practical
All in all, if i had £100+ to spend on a rod I would probably look in a different direction
Hope this review helps...sorry if its a bit all over the place...first time reviewer 
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#191 9 Oct 2009 at 8.41pm | | |
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Chub vantage 12ft 2.75lb tc
I have had these rods only for about 4 months but i find them absolutely amazing. They are only about £80-£95 a rod which is i think very cheap for the rods you are getting. Some of the features include
Carbon reel seat with isotope slot
Double leg braid-safe SIC guides throughout
3K Carbon weave
Middle - Tip action
Japanese shrink-wrap butt grip
Incredibly slim and lightweight
Excellent power to diameter ratio
Powerful butts with fish-friendly playing tip sections
High modulus blanks
Top quality rod bag
Carbon line clip
Anodised reel collars
Anodised and laser etched butt cap
Worldwide Extended Warranty
These rods are really slim but dont let that fool you as these rods can cast a house brick. For distance casting anything above 90 yards i use a 4oz lead which these rods can cast with ease and you can reach distances you could never have imagined. If you want a rod under £100 then look no further than the Chub Vantage. It is absolutely awesome i would give it 10/10
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#190 26 Aug 2009 at 9.20am | | |
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Diawa Amorphous Whisker's 2009 Model
When I first got these rods they seemed a bit slim and was worried about casting big leads/bags and extreme range fishing although in 13ft 3.5tc just did not look up to the job.... How wrong was i as looks are deceiving I had no trouble at all casting a small pva bag 110 yds and fishing the method at 80 yds the rods are light and very forgiving at the tip and have HUGE amounts of power as you bend into fish and could stop anything in its tracks as i have tested them out on catfish and sturgeon too.... The only thing i would recomend is that you couple it with a good big pit reel as I had to begin with a set of 1000xte baitrunners on them and they proved to light for the rods the balance was not right and affected m the casting ect...... After i put on a set of big pits they seemed more balanced and felt the combination better for casting........ Finnish of the rod is flawless and stylish with stainless butt cap fuji rings guides ect and new x wrap carbon weave finnished in a smoked grey finnish. A small bad point due to slimline butt grip makes distance casting slightly more difficult... but 50mm butt ring makes up for alot of this..... Have owned the rods three months and have done some serious fishing since have had them so reallly put through paces. would recomend to anyone and think personaly they are better than the infinity's by far  
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#189 21 Mar 2009 at 6.28pm | | |
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E.S.P sniper 3 and a quarter test curve.
For the money these are great rods and i am very impressed with them. This is what i would rate them after about 3 months use.
Casting-
I would say that these are pretty good casting rods which i greatly prefer to the outcasts i was using. I have found these to be a bit more tippy in the cast which i prefer as before with the outcast's it was as if the rod was bending right through to the butt. They are by no means the best though but you can still whack a lead with them. If you are looking for a p.v.a bagging rod then these i feel are not suited as they seem a bit floppy when going over 4 ounces.
Fish playing-
The rods for their test curve are great for playin fish however i have had to change my playing style slightly. This is because i am used to a softer rod where you have to play the fish a bit harder if you know what i mean but the first 2 fish on the new rods got bumped off because of this. However i changed style and the next 8 fish were landed.
Looks-
These rods excel here and i think they look great. All the writing is on the underside of the rod and the black butt cap and all black real seat and eyes look great.The handle is full shrink wrap with a slightly flared end cap.
I am rating these out of 10 and am marking them compared to one of the best rods for each category. Casting i am comparing to a harrison torrix (torrix being 10/10) and fish playing a century NG. looks are just a personal thing though.
Casting- 7/10
fish playing- 8/10
looks- 10/10
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#188 4 Nov 2008 at 4.16pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
I have just upgraded from some cheap jrc defender rods 3.5lb t.c to greys prodigy plus and the difference is amazing i dont believe you can get a better rod for the money i paid £110 each for the 50mil butt ring version.They are slimmer than a 5p at the but and look gorgeous also
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#187 17 Sept 2008 at 9.27am | | |
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I have owned 2 fox legends 2 ¾ TC for 7 months now.
Pro's:
Not exspensive. £79.99
Nice playing action under the tip they are excellent.
They are for medium size waters i can cast a 60 gram lead roughly 50 - 80 meters with a small pva bag.
Then are nice and thin also very light rods.
Con's:
I do not like the mat finish.
Not for large waters.
My Rating's
Price 10/10
Tartiness 5/10
Playing action 8/10
Casting Distance 6/10
Overall rating i would give them 7/10
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#186 14 Sept 2008 at 11.26am | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
i have just purchased a set of the new sonik sk4 3.5lb tc rods. i was a bit juvious at first as i had only seen pictures but then i read that you could send them back in 28 days if i didnt like them, now if they were not good that offer most likely wouldnt be available, any how, on receiveing them i was well chuffed witht he look and feel...but once i got on the water they could punch a bag stringer or single out to where i wanted quite nicely...overall these rods really seem worht the money, much prefer them to the prodigys i had.
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#183 2 Aug 2008 at 11.29pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
I've owned a set of 3 shimano tribal xt-a rods for around 2 year now and tbh i dont like them. done get me wrong, nice action, smoth eyes, feel in the tip its just that reel seat i find to crap to get on with.
if any of you havent seen the reel seat on these rods then ill explain. basicly it can move up and down the blank but to tightern it you have to do up the reel seat alot, and once lined up the eyes to the reel (which can be a pain) then you can start fishing.
dont get me wrong i like the fact that you can adjust the position to suit length of arms ect. but its set up time and the fact that once released the reel seat leaves marks on the blank from where its been.
good rod but not the one for me
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#181 12 Jul 2008 at 1.04pm | | |
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daiwa akn amorphous 12ft 2.75 test..............why ????
1,they were built by nubero aburo-a great rod builder
2,amorphous carbon flexes better than all others-giving immence power
3,daiwas flagship carp rod
4,this rod has been used by more top names than than any other
5,used in the right hands -achieve massive casts with 3.5oz leads
6,incredibly light and well balanced
7, aint gonna rip mouths at close range
8,a pleasure to play carp on
9, they have outlived all my other blanks,which have either broke or felt horrible.
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#180 9 Jun 2008 at 12.42pm | | |
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century ng 2.75 tc
recently upgraded from a budget set up, not really knowing what to excpect (if anything)
one word, WOW!
put an extra 70 yards on my cast straight away, nice through action, can cast a 4 ounce lead comfortably 135 yards with a stringer!
Not had casting like it since my sea fishing days with the conoflex!
Thought it might be too stiff for margin work but recently went hit and hold with a 15lber out of margin pads and didnt have to give line at all, rod did all the work.
pros: extra distance
Extra sensitivity
good looks
Cons: price!
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#179 3 Apr 2008 at 3.21pm | | |
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BERKELEY B3 2.75 TC
My first impression of these rods was good , thney are very slim and look good ,they have no graphics on them at all infact all they have is a small B3 by the real seat and MR by the but. They come with fuji eyes and a stainless but cap, the real seat is Berkeley's own design and is very compfy to cast with and play fish on.
Casting, If you fish big waters these are not the rods for you if however you fish medium waters like me they are perfect ( 7acres). In a recent trip i could cast to a known feature that was around 110 yards away with ease with a stringer or single bait I fell well short with a pva bag though.
Price , I got mine from Climax for £99.99
So to sum up ,these are very good rods for MEDIUM waters if you need more than say 80 yards with a pva bag then they are no good for you try the 3lb tc.
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#178 22 Mar 2008 at 8.08pm | | |
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FREE SPIRIT XS 3.25 TC.
I had a set of Free Spirit ES's at 2 3/4 TC. These were a dream to use; a players rod, but the problem was they were not man enough to launch a method feeder or a PVA bag any distance, and when you got a rig or fish in the weed they really struggled.
I reluctantly changed them for a set of XS's, but I was not to be dissappointed by my new purchase. My main concern was that, with the increase in test curve, that I might miss the incedible playing qualities of the ES's.
I need not have worried, because the XS's are just what I needed. A rod that plays fish beautifully, and has backbone when you need it.
All in all, a remarkable all round rod!
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#177 22 May 2007 at 10.37am | | |
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They still do make them Lee. I got 3 myself 6 months ago and couldnt agree with you more. They are stunning looking rods and im am over the moon with how they cast and play fish. I challenge anyone to find me a better all-round package (looks, casting ability, performance and value). I honestly dont think it can be done. Ive used rods that are twice the cost and they dont touch them. Lifetime warranty is excellent too as i recently shut the car door on one of mine and broke the eye. Wychwood replaced the whole rod free of charge
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#176 21 May 2007 at 2.29pm | | |
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Wychwood Rapiers
Ok i have owned this rods for more than a year now and i am back to praise them once more, After a years worth of use, i can safely say i have had no hook pulls the rods flex lovely when the fish are under the tip but they still have enough power to throw a PVA bag to the horizon, and becasue of the lifetime warrenty i dont mind pushing them to their limits. I am unsure weather they make these rods still or not but they still deserve to be praised.
It is also worht noting how many people comment on my rods, lots of people ask what they are, and i actually have pleasure in telling them they are just cheap old wychwoods, because to me they will do the job of any other similar rod and the look the dogs  .
Enjoy
Lee
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#173 25 Apr 2007 at 9.44pm | | |
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Century NCS 3.25lb and Century NG 3lb S/U
Yes i'm a real Century tart, these are my 5th and 6th sets of Centurys in as many years  . Anyway in my brief review should help to make comparisons between the two should you be having problems making up your mind choosing.
Tolpitsfatboy has perfectly described the NCS and I would do well to better to his review, mine were built by Chris Orme and they are finished to the highest standards. Should you ever be in need of custom rods I would strongly suggest making him your first call.
After mixing and matching with 2 sets of FBS's and a set of FSs I decided it was time to have a clear out and get down to four rods, the NCS entered into the equation as the ideal all-rounder.
The blank has a satisfying curve whist playing fish with plenty of backbone in reserve. My first trial was at Drayton, plenty of room to let fly and deep open water to play fish in. The tip is fast and definitely NG, when playing my first fish i was wondering if the rods were of a lower test curve.There was no wooden overgunned feeling as might be expected from a 31/4 TC rod, with the blank compressed into the "C" curve the rod always felt responsive and never lost contact with the fish. The NCS is equaly at home fishing the margins, no hookpulls, definitely firm but forgiving, my old 3.5 FBS's were animals close in, these still allow a fight but retain all the power you can ever need.
With the casting abilities described as filling the gap between the NG and SP, its a very easy rod to compress, even in my hands capable of casting 120m with 12lb GT-80 and without a shockleader.
The NG 3lb S/U is a world apart from the rest of the NG range, designed for long distance casting on waters where shockleaders are not allowed.
I purchased these to take to LaHorre as I wasn't 100% confident in the NCS's fantastic rods but for me not firm enough in the tip considering the ranges i might be fishing at and having to handle (hopefully) 50lb+ fish......to top it all off I wan't going to put the NCSs in the van with another 16 anglers kit.
Once again the first use in anger was at Drayton for the same reasons as the NCS's .....to give them a good thrashing  .......and the resulting 40+ fish trial was perfect to break em in.
The main points to outline are that they are stiffer than the NCS, with the same reels, line and basic rigs I hit the clip at 120m with the lead still in flight, after unclipping I added another 20yds to that with a 3.5 oz lead. Again the blanks are easily compressed, but there isn't the sensitive "spring" that is in the of the NCS, the lead was felt down at range but again with nowhere near the same sensitivity of the NCS.
After the first few casts I was left in no doubt that these are long distance rods, more capable casters would/could probably step out well past 150 with a shockleader.
Playing low to mid doubles the blank wasn't really working for me, although I didn't suffer from hook pulls at range, once fish came within 10-20m more care had to be taken and i was only using 25% of the tip and suffered a few hook-pulls as the fish charged down the dam wall.
Under the tip....I had to let the fish run a good way before picking up, make the rod work, putting plenty of effort into the fight and rely on the clutch rather than the tip giving( what a woossy).
The overfit spigot joint and middle of the NG is definitely narrower than the NCS
The NG blank is thicker towards the butt than the NCS
On the NCS the spiral weave starts further up the tip section and is softer than the NG
A mistake might be made in thinking that the NCS is simply a remanufacured NG S/U with a different carbon weave and a range3 of test curves the reality couldn't be much further from that.
Verdict....
the NCS is a perfect all-rounder, beefier than the standard NG and soooo forgiving, easy to cast ......luvley
NG Stepped-Up.......a true long range rod with or (as designed) without a shockleader that is capable of being used at closer ranges, definitely overgunned with smaller fish. I won't be using them on my syndicate water where 80-100m is usually the max.
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#172 10 Nov 2006 at 10.45am | | |
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Ron Thompson panther rods.
As any other married man with 5 kids, Iam always on a tight budget when it comes to fishing gear. So i bought 5 of these panthers from T F gear. They cost me £100 the lot. I got 3 x 2.5 tc and 2 x 3.0 tc. To be fair i didnt expect them to be much good, however i was quite surprised. They dont look as cheap as i thought they would, and they feel nicely balanced in the hand. The reel seats could be better, as they feel slightly loose when realing in. They have no trouble casting method feeders etc mid to long distances. I would reccomend these rods to others, but most people get put off by the low price. I have been using these rods for a year now and have no complaints.
cheers
Robbo.
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#171 8 Nov 2006 at 9.58pm | | |
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Harrison also do a parralel butt rod
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#170 8 Nov 2006 at 6.34pm | | |
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the parrallel butts are a century blank not harrison i do believe mate (fs iirc)
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#169 6 Nov 2006 at 3.48pm | | |
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ive been using my nci,s for a while theyre the dogs, cant believe they were made for shakespeare,since the warriers went i havent looked back,they look the biz too,i can cast with small pva bags and 2 and half oz leads no probs with a thump too,but they come into their own when the playing starts,considering theyre the slimmest rods your likely to see (literally pencil thin) for the price i would buy these rods again//they dont have the shakespeare name on anywhere, thought id been sold harrison rods by mistake ,really,,they really shine when piking too
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#168 1 Nov 2006 at 4.17pm | | |
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Century NCS (New Century Speed) Rods
I have been a Century rod user since I started carp fishing nearly 20 years ago and for me, my ultimate carp rods had come to life in the form of the Focal System range of rods. I have never owned a rod which encompassed all the attributes that I needed to successfully use in my pursuit of carp and the Century FS was that rod to a tee.
I say was, because Century have just released a new range of rods which are marketed as filling the gap between the ever popular NG’s and highly focused SP’s and these are set to take over that auspicious crown of best rod in my eyes.
When I saw these rods I was immediately struck by the massive aesthetic appeal they have upon that all important first look. The new and very expensive carbon weave looks absolutely stunning on these new blanks and it has been utilised not only for its ease on the eye but it also has a highly sophisticated function within the dynamics within the blank. As usual the attention to detail is second to none and the whippings are a simple black except for those immediately either side if the spigot joint . These have been tipped with a dark blue whipped end to add a subtle flash of colour to just break up the lines slightly and put emphasis on the neatness of the spigot itself.
At the butt end, Century have opted to go for the more traditional etched ,flat , steel end cap and the butt grip itself is a top grade Japanese shrink rubber which has been placed over a composite taper to give it a more ergonomic feel in the hand. This is then fished with another subtle bit of stainless in the form of an etched trim ring. One thing that is immediately noticeable is the brand new reel seat. It is visually unique and is made by taking the proven industry standard Fuji reel seat and amalgamating it with a beautiful CNC machined metal rear half with a very tactile castellated reel lock ring and the Century logo engraved on the upper surface. Definitely another triumph in the reel seat department and with the awesome SS20 and AL20 reel seats already as options in the camp, they were always going to be a hard act to follow but the new HB20 standard fitting is fantastic. There are also the options of a clear aluminium finish or an anodised gun metal liveries available for the HB20, both of which look great.
So, like all Century blanks, the New Century Speed range looks superb but how does it perform I hear you ask?……..Well, like a certain wood stain company says, “It does exactly what it says on the tin!” I put on my Infinity reels loaded with 12lb GR60 line , new lead core and rigs and looked forward to the first outing to put them through their paces. Time to wind ‘em up and let them rip!
The first thing that struck me was the apparent spring in the tip with the lead suspended. I got the impression that I was about to unleash some almighty force and I wasn’t wrong! As the new carp stick was propelled forward, it effortlessly sliced a swage through the air and this culminated with a recoil as the baited rig was sent into orbit. I didn’t go mad with the first cast but it sent the business end out with consummate ease . I reeled in and had another go , then another and another , pushing a little more each time and now running out of water without upsetting my fellow anglers I settled for the final cast.
I consider myself to be a fairly good caster, but not in the league eminent lead chuckers such as Danny Moeskops ,Frank Warwick, Mark Hutchinson, or John Carver, so with my limitations in mind, I appreciate it when a blank is easy to work and these rods are no exception. You don’t have to be a surf casting expert to get these rods to perform admirably and the tip make up is such that a tremendous speed it built up quickly projecting the lead to the horizon. This is also useful on the strike at range because the line can be picked up much quicker bring you into contact with the fish in a fraction of the time. So it’s a casting tool I hear you say? Well yes, it casts faultlessly and with an ease of effort that belies softish tip. Now the interesting part, what’s it like to play a carp on? Well , I had a spirited encounter with a 22lb mirror on the rods inaugural outing and I was using the 3.5lb versions and they tamed the feisty cyprinid without any dramas. The pleasant C curve that the blank takes up is one of the inherent design concepts to bring a big casting tool into the realm of a playing rod and the blank design has been honed to perfection to bring these two opposites of the rod spectrum into a highly versatile carp rod that anyone can use and not be intimidated by. Century have hit upon a winning formula once again with the NCS range and it is destined to be a future classic from this innovative manufacturer at the pinnacle of their game.
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#165 24 Aug 2006 at 8.35pm | | |
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Shakespeare NCI blanks (1993)
Pro's
Very classy and ultra thin blanks
I've had these rods for about a year now, the fish playing qualities of this rod are outstanding in my opinion, together with a x-weave handle and a fuji reel seat, the rods are truly awesome, dont be put off by the companys reputation, and dont take notice of the 1993 bit, this is just the product code, they were only released a couple of years ago
Con's
the only con that i can think of is the two section joints are a bit loose, not like they shake around, but on longcasts they somtimes twist a bit so the rings are not in a dead straight line, (but this only takes 5 secs to adjust)
oh and a very minor con, they sumtimes get mistakend for warriors or outlaws with the x-weave grip. but in my opinion 20 times better, and much much thinner.
http://www.shakespeare-fishing.co.uk/Kits-Combos-and-Rods/Coarse-Rods/0/217/
(these rods are the ones pictured at the bottom of the picture box)
Sorry about the link
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#163 14 Aug 2006 at 9.12am | | |
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In reply to Post #155
Harrison Factory Build Chimera 12' 3.25lb
Thought I would wait a few months before writing a brief review of these rods. Simply fantastic is the least I can say about them!
Superb looking woven blank (constructed from 3K & 1K carbon weaved together) with a Fuji DPNS reel seat, stainlkess caps & duplon fitting. Rung with 40mm to 16mm genuine Fuji SIC rings, lin flow is flawless & no frap ups using my InfinityX 5500 reels loaded with 15lb Big Game.
Tip recovery is superb and puitting a lead over 100 metres is easily done with an overhead thump. Casts PVA bags & larger leads perfectly fine (I have cast upto 4.5oz on mine with no problems). By far, this rod can put a lead as far as 99% of anglers will want to cast one, yet turns into a completely different beast once a fish is hooked. It feels like a 2.5lb through actioned rod with a fish on the other end! The rod can be really bent into with no worries about ripping hooks out, and using these rods for margin work locked up has opened my eyes indeed with the rod bending smoothly on the take & absorbing the fishes lunges.
My next set of rods will 100% be on Harrison blanks & be custom built. Nothing wrong with the factory built rods at all, but I didn't want to go down the custom route originally in case I didn't like the rods playing action & selling a custom built rod with your name, etc on it is not the easiest of tasks.
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#161 20 Jul 2006 at 9.36am | | |
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In reply to Post #160
Right then This is just the start of my review as I'v not used them yet.
A month or so ago I decided that I was going to treat myself to a set of custom built rods but didn't know what to go for. I got in contact with a few rod builders and came to the conclusion that for my type of fishing the best rod for me was the Harrison Torrix in 3.25TC.
The next question was who to make them and what spec to go for, after speaking to a few people and getting quotes I opted to give the job to Chris Orme. I contacted Chris and together using his specialist knowledge went about putting together the perfect rod for me, the spec I went for was as follows:
12ft 3.25TC Harrison Torrix Blank
Fuji 40 twin leg SIC Ring Set
Fuji DNPS20 Real Seat with Stainless Collars
5" parallel butt with Japanise Shrink rubber and a stainless button end cap
Clear varnished
Line clip
On unwrapping the rods I was amazed with the quality of the workmanship, they have been made very very precisely and look/feel lovely. The finished rods are exactly as i wanted them and I cant wait to get out there at the weekend to try them out.
I will finish theis review off once I have given them a work out.
A big thumbs up for Chris's workmanship, I can thouroughly recommend him to anyone wanting custom built rods.
The only disadvantages I can see is that they do take a while to make and they cant be bought off the shelf but then it is the same with any good rod builder, its well worth the wait to have them to your exact spec though.
Right I have now used them a few times and caught a couple of fish on tham and can honestly say that the do exactly what it says on the tin. I can fire out a decent lead and PVA bag a good distance but when playing a fish they are excellent, plenty of power when needed but nice and soft when the fish lunges. I can fully recommend these rods to anyong looking for a good all round rod, the custom aspect also makes it a perfect choice for anyone looking to have some built to their own spec. You will be supprised how little the difference in price is between a shop bought Torrix and a custom made one by Chris Orme. Well worth considering!!!
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#159 14 Jun 2006 at 3.16pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
Fox warrior xt
Right so here it goes.
I have had these rods about 2-3 months.I have a full set in 3lb tc 12ft.
Look
They look the dogs nuts in my opinion.The detail on the reel seat is fantastic and is really smart.Also the overall look of the rods make them look as though they are worth well more than £50.The overall finish of the rods is fantastic and they look really smart together on a pod-/banksticks.
Performence
The rods action while casting is really good.I have cast out massive pva bags on these rods and they have coped really well with the strain.When casting singles or with a small pva bag the rod have excellent casting ability.When casting it is smooth and it really feels good punching a lead 100+ yards with ease.When i had my old rods i was nt casting as far as what i can with these rods.They really put a lot of yards onto my cast.While playing fish the rod is very smooth again and makes you feel that you have control of the fish.All of the fish lunges just gets absorbed by the rod and overall it is a very nice feeling playing fish on these rods.
Value for money
I think that the value for money of these rods are fantastic.For £50 you get rods that could easily be mistaken for £100+ rods.There are also many deals now that give you discount on 2,3 or even 4 rods.These rods are a definate must have if you dont want to be spending £100's of pounds on rods but you still want to look the part on your local.
Advantages
-Great value for money
-Fantastic look about them
-Excellent casting and playing abilty
-Strong and reliable
-Many places will give you good deals on them
-Lovely detail on the rods
Disadvantages
-Heard many bad things about the customer services from fox
-Reel seat is not compatable with all big pits
There is not much else i can say for the disadvantages for the rods.Top piece of kit in my honest opinion and a definate must have if you are on a budget or just want to look the part.  
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#158 8 Jun 2006 at 11.59am | | |
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In reply to Post #157
Century FS 3lb t/c
I first saw these rods over 2 two years ago and initially the reverse spigot and the idea of a fast action rod in a similar style to the FMJ didn't appeal to my type of fishing.
However.........I recently won a set in a Century competition and faced with either selling the rods or using them I chose the latter.
The blanks are finished well, perhaps a touch too glossy for my liking but the laquer is definitely tougher than that on NG's and FBS's. The rings are the usual Century SiC, but for some reason they are not marked with the sizes or the SiC logo. Along with the complex carbon pattern that is visible along the length of the blank there are small details like the etching on the stainless spigot ring, the tapered shrink rubber grip and the "Ikea" butt cap might appeal to the tarts out there.
The reverse spigot is a "delicate" part of the rod and requires greasing to enable it come apart and Century have provided two pieces of latex rubber to ensure a good grip whist separating the blank. I have needed them at times, the joints can lock solid!
As to fishing with the rods, I used them for 3 months during which time I realised that the fast tip action isn't as harsh as it may sound. 3lbs is exactly that....... it has a static 90 degree 3lb t/c test curve tip. Not dynamic like the NG or the FBS where by the whole of the blank works in the curve. Although the butt section is the powerhouse pivot in the casting action it still doesn't make the rod too stiff playing a fish under the tip.
I used the rods on my runs water, competently dropping a light lead 15yds into a snag or slinging a good sized PVA bag 90-100-110 yards with ease. Playing angry mid to upper double's at range or hauling them from snags the rods performed impecably with no hook pulls on over 60 hard pushed captures.
Pros........everything I think, I honestly can't find a serious fault with them, i should use them to replace my 3.5 FBS's for most applications 
Cons......perhaps the varnish is too glossy but then they are not really stalking rods, Ikea butt cap?
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#157 3 Jun 2006 at 0.55am | | |
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Century 3.5lb t/c FBS's
I bought my second set of FBS's in 3.5lb t/c around a year ago, after 3 years of using the 2.5lb models and feeling left short on distance with larger baits and leads. After briefly using some Harrison Balista Slims I stuck with my choice of brand and model, the FBS.
My rods are factory built but in plain NG silk finish and are some of the slimmest 3.5t/c rods I have seen, the only noticeable difference between these and the 2.5's is the slightly thicker tip.
Once again the original rods were returned to Century because I felt apart from the finish being too thick the trick laquer was not "colourmatic". The replacement rods came back from Century and I have to say look fantastic in the plain finish, super slim and understated.
The heavier test curve of the 3.5's enables larger leads, good sized bags and medium method feeders to be used whilst retaining an enjoyable tip to middle action which is neither sloppy in the cast or prone to locking up when under pressure from a good fish. However this is still a 3.5 t/c rod and it is a deceptively powerful step up from either 2.5 or 2.75 pound rods, small carp just don't stand a chance and its only the parabolic action that prevents hookpulls and breakages at close range. Initialy I had thought that the rods are a touch too heavy until I hooked a large carp that gave me the run around and took the rod to the limits.
Verdict........... Tarty finish, super slim blank, serious rods for big fish. I still love my 2.5's but fish with these rods 80% of the time. If only they came in 3lb test curve
Pro's.......super slim close to medium range blanks with a powerful but forgiving action
Cons......expensive, could easily be replaced by an "all round" fast action 2.75 / 3 lb TC carp rod that would probably cast further  , Colourmatic finish 
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#156 3 Jun 2006 at 0.24am | | |
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Century FBS 2.5lb t/c.......Barbel rods on steroids
I have been using Century FBS's for over 4 years now. The first set that I bought were 12ft 2.5lb t/c in the original Racing Green. I purchased them from Leslies (ouch) and when I put them against some NG's I knew instantly which ones to go for.
The slim blanks are a delight to play fish on but as already mentioned they are not rods designed to chuck 3oz leads or large PVA bags long distances. Well placed single hookbaits and small bags are the order with these blanks, but I have abused them with smallish method feeders,and the occasional 3oz lead to no ill effect.
Although the 2.5lb models have the backbone to play large carp at close range I feel that they are best suited to playing carp from 15-25lbs at ranges up to 60yds, any further and the responsive tip starts to lose control.
Unfortunately I had to return 2 of the 3 rods due to discolouration of the varnish (probably tigernuts and salmon oil) but both were replaced without qualms by Century...........you get what you pay for including Century's superb after-sales service.
Verdict.........I love em, sold them to finance some 3.5's and then bought some more a year later 
Pro's...........Super thin blanks, fantastic players action
Cons...........Expensive, not suited to casting larger weights or distance fishing, earlier models had some problems with the finish, blanks heavier than they look
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#155 2 Jun 2006 at 2.21pm | | |
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In reply to Post #154
as you will see further down the page i have got rid of my custom built harrisons ,as for my ballista extremes very floppey out of date blanks. i am the proud owner of the new greys platinums , fantastic rods i have 12ft 3 1/2s everyone who has had a cast with them or used them wants them(very up to date rods)and if you shop around you ll be amazed what you can get them for.   what a big mistake geting platinums , ive snapped 2 in a matter of weeks, both on the top section.
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#154 6 May 2006 at 10.12pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
ESP CARP TRACER
I've got 3 of these, two 3.25 and one 2.75. I bought them when they were first released. I was in the market for a rod with a parabolic through action and enough backbone but softness to hurl a pva bag. The reports in the press stated this rod did exactly that.
When i went shopping my budget was £150 per rod. I can only remeber picking up the Nash hooligans (felt like dead wood) and fox range masters i think. The ESP's felt "right". They are nicely balanced, understated in olive green and very slim. They certainly suited the quiet weedy small lake for which they were intended. I got a discount and paid £300 for the set which i reckon is a bargain.
in use they are a joy to wield. The gentle action is perfect for lobbing baits into weed holes. The high test curve means when you get a run you can really lay into them and hold a fish without a fast tip whipping about. If you load up a pva bag the action gives a soft release which means the bag does'nt get ripped apart.
playing fish is an utter joy. Let the rod do the work for you and if the fish runs for snags, give it some welly!
On bigger waters they are'nt exactly a casting tool. however they do have a lot of power and if you use a technique to compress them they will wallop a bait out. I don't know about 200 yrds but a well timed aerielized ground cast will fire out a 3 oz + lead 150 yrds. Certainly to gain distance you have to work them. but then they were and are'nt claimed as distance tools.
I did worry initially that they were going to be the chavs weapon of choice. Lets face it, with the contoured handle and slim olive blank they are a looker. However they are in the strange price band - above £100 so not a budget rod. - Below £200/£150 so not a top of the range job.
Overall i would conclude;
Good price - about £120ish now
Nice looking and understated. (No weave pattern or bling)
Excellent true through action which means-
- Beautiful to play fish with
- great for pva bagging
Tough (mine have been well knocked about)
Not a true distance rod (it is'nt meant to be though)
would prefer a contoured reel seat rather than conventional fuji.
As a measure, i planned on retiring completely from session fishing (family commitments blah blah). So i was going to sell the tracers and Emblem X's rather than let them go to waste in my shed. I got them out for a good clean and then went fishing to take some good photos for ebay.......
They are now waxed, freshly spooled and rigged and the missus has to put up with a cold bed again! I could'nt and would'nt sell em. I love them. all they would need is a complementing set of true long range rods for the bigger waters.
Buy em, don't get warriors or Nash rubbish. The ESP range is truly superb.
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#153 6 May 2006 at 11.07am | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
e.s.p vertex 31b tc. when i purchased my new set off rods i looked at quite a few , greys , centuary etc , and went round quite a few tackle dealers, price was one issue but not the main one as i had been banging in the ot at work ready to treat myself , when you purchase any new tackle i think a lot off what swings your opinion is the views of your mates, and all the fancy ads in mags (from the manufacturers).none of my mates had esp rods they were using infinitys ,fox and centuary. having picked quite a few up and did the old pull on it while i hold the tip test ,i was still in the dark , i new i wanted a good all round rod that would go the distance , cast bags , fish under the rod tip , and a rod that was not as stiff as a poker,i decided on the vertex still quite blind,after all you would not buy a car without a proper test drive would you ?, but i did , if manufacturers rods were so all singing and dancing why cant they offer you a test drive ,after all if they were so good theres no way you would be sending them back ! .fortunately with a bit off luck i am genuinely pleased with them and at 215 pound a pop i should be , fantastic build quality ,really feel like something special even when you pick them up , one off the waters i fish theres a tree line (a long way off !) and i can reach it , only trouble got to feather line down ! , tried to break rod in two on several occasions with a 5 oz lead a failed although first time i used one and cracked the lacour thought id managed it !.one thing that supprised me was how fast the tip was , not very good with light leads although 31btc and 1.oz leads are not made for each other , first impresion was the tip was a bit too stiff and wished id bought the 12"7 model ,used these rods now for around 2 years and have now really got used to them , this might sound crazy but i feel they get better with use as the tip action softens a bit and i would not swap them for anything else , except some nice new ones !,as im keeping these till theres nowt left of em !
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#152 24 Apr 2006 at 4.46pm | | |
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In reply to Post #150
5rods, I would like to know where you purchased these "extremes" from, as I have been on the harrison web site, and there is literally no mention of them at all on Steves site.
harrison rods:
Trebuchet
Torrix
Chimera
Balista
Balista Slim
Multi Carp
H-Design Quark (manufactured outside of the U.K)
H-Design Jazz (manufactured outside of the U.K)
I personally have the 9x1 parrallel buts, and they are awesome rods
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#150 24 Apr 2006 at 3.31pm | | |
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In reply to Post #149
harrison extremes bought 4 of these for france three weeks ago after haveing 4 greys prodiges for 2 years, the harrisons was the same test curve as the prodiges but 6 inch longer, now i have been in the carp game for over 17 years so have a bit of experience, now just before i bought the harrisons i tried some fx4s from stapley but was far to stiff so took them back and got money back no problem, not harrison these rods are unbeleivabley flopey so complained not a hint of a refund or exchange and wouldnt even give me half the money back, i would deffinetley put greys prodiges before these rods and could buy 3 for the price of one harrison, a big to harrison.
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#149 20 Mar 2006 at 3.37pm | | |
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In reply to Post #148
Wychwood Rapier 12' 3lbTC
I have recently got hold of Three Wychwood Rapier 12' 3lb TC and i have had a chance to use them recently so i will review as much as i can on these rods.
Un-conditional life time warranty
12 Foot long
3lb TC
Fuji DPS Reel seat
6 Three legged lightweight Sic rings
Carbon F10 Blank
Abreviated handle with no Duplon or cork of any sort
Stainless Decals including butt with etched Wychwood Leaf
Just above the handle it says 3lb TC in gold writing it has the wychwood name on the underside and is discreat enough for nobody to notice.
The rods are very light weight and the balance with my Shimano 8000GTE is just about right altough they would probably Suit big pits a little better they are alos upon looking the thinest rod around in 3lb TC the carbo weave on the blank reminds me of my old Armalites that i recently sold.
I had a few chucks the other day with PVA bags on using the large funnel web with about three or four large handfulls of trout pellet in and i had a flick and without any effort it went mile i have yet to cast major distances but see there is plenty of potential to get long distances as for tip action all i can say is when reeling in and feeling the bottom i get almost as much feeling as my greys marker rod.
This rod Cost me £100 each from my local tackle shop but i have seen them in a Large Tackle chop in Southampton for £99.99 each Which is a bargain as the come with the unconditional lifetime warranty this waranty is better than the one on the prodigys as you only need to send of £15 rather than the £20
I will try and get some pictures added to this later on
Cheers
Lee
carpcoopy
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#148 18 Mar 2006 at 1.46pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1
FREE-SPRIT E-CLASS
These are extremely slim rods with a really nice carbon weave that looks like snake skin
The handles are made from machined aluminium with a fuji locking ring in a blue grey colour ,similer in colour to entohs and looks the nuts.
I have the 3.25lb tc and have a nice powerful action with a really nice tip,I would not hesitate in using these in the margins ,but also have the power to put a lead a very long way.
I got these rods purely on recomendations ,and had never seen or used them previously ,and as a result was constantly thinking have i made the right choice.....Glad to say i was worried over nothing and i couldnt of made a better choice ,they are everything in my eyes,they perform ace,they look ace and they are alot more rod than the price suggests
FREE-SPIRIT QUALITY ,dont think i will ever change these....over the moon with em
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#146 6 Mar 2006 at 11.51pm | | |
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In reply to Post #145
got hold of 3 Century Ngs, 3.5tc, had them before but have been replaced due to a thieft form the shed,,,love them to bits,,work well with Daiwa Emblem x reels, they seem to balance well, the casting is really smooth, and they handle medium to large PVA bags with ease, great to play fish from range and under the rod tip, the build quality is spot on, and the finish is great,,,, the only down side to the rods is the moulded butt grip, very coarse and uncomfortable, due to this Im looking into putting full Duplon handles on all three, once done,, I dont think I will change them for a long time, they do everything I need them to do,,, top rods
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#145 16 Dec 2005 at 3.30pm | | |
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Just bought 2 Greys prodigys...my goodness what a beautiful couple of rods they are!! gorgeous tip action on both 2.75 and 2.5lb and superbly balanced...i can't wait to get out there and give them a good seeing to!!
Have to admit though, all the fuss about the the lifetime warrantee turned out to be a bit of a damp squib...as you have to send a cheque off for £20 with any claim made. I got quoted for that amount to fix my crappy shakespeare rod (which snapped using a method feeder and was admitedly a cheap piece of c***). Anyway..for any budding carp enthusiasts the prodigy's are beautiful!!!
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#144 30 Nov 2005 at 6.31pm | | |
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In reply to Post #143
The new Harrsion 12ft 3.5lb tc Trebuchet
Through my ability to cast long distances in tournaments I got involved with Dr Steve Harrison at Harrison rods to develop a tremendous casting tool that also has the ability to fish very well.
The problem with developing a casting rod is all the attributes that are desirable for extreme distances are not so fishing rod friendly, an example of this is that my casting tools are very stiff in the but and have a firm tip which helps control the lead and compress the butt, this combination would be useless for a long range carp rod.
Steve sent me down some prototypes to cast with and even though they were very good quality blanks they didn’t quite have the long range performance that I was hoping to achieve.
By using my experience of casting numerous rods over the years I told Steve what I thought was needed, Steve’s expertise was invaluable here and he sent me down a blank that looked and felt awesome.
After a few months casting and fishing with this rod I knew that we had a winner the butt is perfect for carp casting styles being stiff enough to promote fast tip speed and compression yet soft enough to bend so the rod will work for normal less powerfull casters, the mid section blends into the tip brilliantly and is the ultimate comprimise between lead control and fish playing ability.
This was proved to me by catching fish up to low twenties at my local 4 acre syndicate lake on the rod, using 10lb mainline and size 10 hooks, I have suffered no hook pulls and at no time did I feel like, the rod was in danger of ripping hooks out, yes it is powerful but playing fish at short range was no problem for this rod that can cast 200yds + in the right hands!!!!
The rod is available with a softer tip and a slightly stiffer tip that is ideal for PVA bags and method balls.
After months of casting these rods over 200yds many times I have yet had one break on me FACT I believe that Steve Harrison has a superb rod here and it performs to the highest level as good or better than any other rod I have cast/fished with and believe me that is most of them
The Name of the rod is the Harrison TREBUCHET an awesome product
My rods were built by Chris Orme and once again they were built to exceptionally high standards and looked superb
www.customrods.co.uk
Never forget Harrison's when in the market for a top of the range rod, they are as good if not better than them all, in my experience and im not sponsored by them just appreciate quality English blanks :0)
cost around £235 each
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#143 21 Nov 2005 at 8.50am | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
Harrison Torrix 12ft 3.25tc built by chris orme
I orderred these rods from chirs after much delliberation as what to get, he was however a great help in deciding what suited my style and type of fishing, his service was excellent andhad a fast turn around.
the rod
It is 12ft long with full cork handle, 3.25 test curve,
I feel it has a good look with a brilliant glossy finish, stainless caps and quite a slim blank.
I ahve only owned them for just over a week, but took it out for a play at the wekend and was very very impressed, it is IMO the best all round rod on the market as it can chuck bags 100yrds, sinlge miles and milesyet unlike other rods still has a nice through action when playing fish, softish in the tip for a rod of its test curve but powerfull butt section.
well worth the money, as overall well buitl, good looks, great performance so far and a great service from chris
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#142 13 Nov 2005 at 6.07pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
Wychwood SPD Equinox 12' 3lb tc
These are stunning to look at very light with the thinnest blank i have seen on a 3lb test curve,
18mm reel seat
6 Slim rings with 40mm butt to a 12mm tip,
"Custom like" finish with limited info on top of blank & make & model bottom of blank (nice touch).
They are not casting rods but i reckon 100 yards would be a realistic target.
I've used 3oz lead & small PVA & they loved it.
Nice thru action rod with deceptive power if required.
These rods retail for £139 ea .... however i picked up 3 for £210 & believe me when i state .... these rods put most of the "usual suspects" rods to shame (and i looked at nearly every rod up to £150 ea.)
TOP RODS PEOPLE
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#141 9 Nov 2005 at 9.39pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
Fox Warrior
I Have the 3 Fox warrior in 2 3/4lb test curve
Ive owned these rods for about a year now and there still the best rod ive used in my opinion.
Now i no there not extreme rods at the front of technology but neither are they over £100, £200 or £300. At £45 each i think that you'd find it hard to find a better rod for the price.
I've been carp fishing for 7 years now and have had various rods but due to my age (17) im still in full education and find it hard to shell out £500 for a set of 3 rods.
Therefore if there are any beginners or young fishermen out there who cant really afford to break the bank, but want a high quality rod then the fox warrior are throughly reccomended.
Asthetics
The look of the rod is extremly nice and one of the best ive seen. With the non-slip X-weave in the grip and thin body. I also like the fact the rings are supported by 3 legs rather than 2 as i feel they are a lot stronger.
Action
In a recent magazine i read the action was progressive/through and to be quite honest im not really sure wat that means however i feel that the rod is extremly 'coiled'. The feeling when casting is that when the rod comes forward through the cast the lead and tip are still at their starting position at an almost 90 degree angle then a milli-second later the energy is released and the lead goes gliding through the air hence the feeling of 'coiled energy'
On catching and bringing in the fish it seems to be extremly durable and smooth rather than tough. The fishes lunges are absorbed and you feel as if you tame the fish into the net rather than force it in
Bad Points
Im afraid to say everthing has its bad points and the fox warrior is no exception. The only negative i could think off is its absorbtion. Its not really a negative but more of different fishermens opinions. I found that due to its smoothness and absorbtion some of the brute force and power has been lost.
E.g. I dont worry about casting a 2 1/2 ounce lead 100yrds but a 3 ounce lead id be worried of losing control due to the recoil.
The same applies for a fish - if a fish was in clear water then this rod is perfect however if it dived towards snags the rod wouldnt have the power or strength to deny a raging fish.
Conclusion
The fox warrior is a superb rod and for under £50 there is no better, although the fox warrior XT has just come out so will be replacing my model. This i feel will be even better than mine maybe with a little more backbone!!
Sorry for going on!!
Coxy
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#140 9 Nov 2005 at 10.32am | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
I have the tribal xt 2 3/4lb tc.
these rods are an awesome bit of kit, i dont tend to fish too many waters where you need a big chuck, making these rods ideal.
however saying this i fished a runs water the other day and the fish were really boshing about on the far bank, as i was the only person on the lake i thought id have a chuck and was very surprised at how far these could cast. i was using a 3oz lead along with small stick ~(4inch) and the rods punched it out at least 80yards to the far bank and could of gone alot further (however i saw no point fishing on the grass).
also on top of this they are really good for playing fish, which is the main reason i bought them in the first place. i spent alot of time looking for an allrounder and think that this rod is the one.
had em for two years now and cannot see myself parting with them. spot on!!
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#139 17 Oct 2005 at 8.10pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
Century NG, 12ft 3lb SU. These are the new 3lb stepped up models. Differences are 1) 3lb model offered in the 12ft (rather than a choice of 2.75 or 3.5lbs), 2) Distance casting rings starting with a 50mm butt ring, 3) Stepped up butt section.
Likes - All the usual NG benefits of autoclave, accurate/distance casting.
Dis-likes - None so far, am a bit concerned about squashing one of the butt rings as at 50mm they look HUGE !!
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#135 1 Oct 2005 at 8.48am | | |
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Wychwood Equinox 12” 3 Pound Test
I recently bought three of these. And after a little searching, picked them up for under £200.00 for the three.
First impressions: An amazingly thin blank that one finds difficult to associate with the stated test curve. The finish of these rods is a pleasure to look at when sat in the swim. Nice size rings and abbreviated grips on the butt section allowing appreciation of the thin blank. A beautiful finish without being at all garish. The Whychwood logo is understated and situated on the bottom of the rod. The only info shown on the top is the test curve which looks hand written in subtle gold figures.
Even though I knew I had purchased 3 pound test rods. The slim blanks make this hard to believe until you start casting a 3 oz lead with them. A gentle flick and they spring into life. Loads of action right through the tip and into the mid-section. For longer casts they really do respond to the angler’s input and transmit the power from the butt section feeling every bit as firm as the test curve suggests they should.
Line pick up is also excellent even at depth. When hooking a fish, the rod has a nice bend which almost disguises the power. This immediately becomes apparent when the fish needs turning as there is, stacks of it. With a good fish lunging beneath the rod tip. I must admit, that feeling of expectation, waiting for the lead to fly past my ear was a concern. However the parabolic curve does forgive a firm hand at the butt and the fish, as many others have, did make it onto the unhooking mat.
I have yet to find any real bad points with these rods. The only thing that took me a while to get used to was the slimness of the blank in initial use. Having been used-to much thicker rods it did take a little while. I also think a little common sense is required with the 3 pound rods if fishing up close and personal. But then any rod will rip a hook out, up close in the wrong hands.
There are a lot of products on the market that are designed to separate the angler from as much cash as is possible. I am also by the same token a great believer that you usually get what you pay for. The Wychwood Equinox rods, as a multi-purpose tool have, as far as I am concerned. Delivered in excess of my expectations. They are designed to catch fish from short to long distance and most definitely let the angler off the hook.
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#134 29 Sept 2005 at 4.31am | | |
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Daiwa Dictators 3lb test. I have had mine for about severn years now. There not the L.D's so are a bit softer action. They have seen plenty of action with fish up to 46lb 4oz. For pva bagging there superb. Plenty of power in reserve aswell. Casting is pretty good too I can fish comfortabley at 100 plus yards. The only problem I have found is one off them has let a bit of water under the varnish, But thats not to bad considering the amount of abuse I have put them though.
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#133 27 Sept 2005 at 6.30pm | | |
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Nick Buss Custom Built Spod Rod
The other toy I received earlier this month was a “Harrison Heavy Spod Rod” built by Nick. As I said in my review for the marker rod I was now needing to fish at a fair range. Now I could bait up with a throwing stick but that would limit me to just boilies, and my old Daiwa spod rod wasn’t really made for chucking any distance. While on the phone to Nick I started discussing what I wanted from my spod rod, as I said before I was wanting to chuck a spod a fair way so nick recommended either a Century Big Bertha or the Harrison Heavy Spod. I told him the type of spods and distances I was trying to achieve which concluded the Harrison would be more suited for the task. Features were discussed and Nick suggested some rings that would take a bit of abuse (I forget the exact name!) going down from 40mm. I also wanted this rod to match all my other rods built by Nick so opted for the Fuji DNPS reel seat, part Jap shrink rubber handle and a little stainless cap, oh and of course my name on the blank!
Well I received the Spod Rod the same time as the marker, and after I spent a fair while drooling over the marker rod I took a look at the spod. Once again Nick had done me proud, the build quality was again spot on and even though the blank was slightly thicker than the others (I suppose it needs to be to chuck out 8oz of bait!) it was still very nicely finished.
When I let it rip with it down my local I was amazed how far I could put a Korda spod! The thing just doesn’t land this rod really makes a spod fly. This was paired up with a Daiwa Emcast, 10lb sensor and a shocky.
In conclusion this rod is doing exactly what I want it to do and more! I just can’t wait to get a distance pocket rocket on and watch one of them fly!
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Update
A short while down the line now and these rods have been through a fair bit of abuse, i would guess they have spodded out somewhere around 60kilos of particles, in some cases well over 100yards! They have also been thrown about into reeds and ontop of lillies while i have been out in the waders, and also been swimming when it decided to fall off the lillies! (atleast it give it a clean from all the spod mix it was covered in ). Upto now absoloutly no regrets and i am very impressed!
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#132 27 Sept 2005 at 6.08pm | | |
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Nick Buss Custom Built Marker
Mid September I received a couple of new toys off Nick Buss. One of these was a new marker rod. The main thing I was trying to achieve was distance, my new water means I am needing to fish at quite a range, now I can get a lead out there but couldn’t get a marker float out there with my old marker rod. This soon became quite frustrating, I was sure there were some decent features out there but I just couldn’t reach them. After my distance casting lessons with Terry Edmonds I was talking to him about what would suit the job, he told me I was needing something with a bit more backbone than a standard shop bought marker rod. This is where Nick come in, after a conversation on the phone Nick found what would be the perfect tool.
My new marker rod was to be based on a 3.25lb TC, 12ft, Harrison Chimera blank. He assured me this would be adequate for the job and I was actually quite keen on the idea. Then came the features, being a bit of a tart I was wanting it to match my normal rods that Nick actually built, the reel seat was to be a Fuji DNPS, and the handle part shrink rubber with a stainless butt cap. I also opted like on my normal rods to have 40mm rings and my name signed on the blank just above the reel seat.
Well the cheque was sent and a few weeks later I was signing for it. The first thing that struck me was how nice the blank was, it was much slimmer than what I was expecting and as usual the finish by Nick was spot on.
When I first went for a play down my local I had immediately put on an extra few yards than with my old rod, it really can chuck a float, I was reaching the distance I needed and that was with fox braid on a Daiwa Emcast straight through, I am pretty sure that once I get some whiplash on there which is miles thinner an extra few yards would be achieved. The tip is also quite responsive for picking up the feel of the lake bed, and to help with the depth measurement I have got Nick to put me a foot marker on the blank.
In conclusion this rod casts like a dream, it will launch a marker much further than most shop bought rods, it looks the part and there isn’t a lot of “feel” lost. In my books it doesn’t get much better!
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Update
Well a month down the line i am still as pleased with them as when i had them, absoloutly no regrets! As alot of my fishing involves wading and distance, these rods have been under a hell of a lot of abuse! They have been chucked into reeds and ontop of lillies while i have been out in the waders, dropped in the water numerous times (again while in the waders), and generaly abused chucking 4oz leads left right and centre; but still they are as good as when i bought them and suprisingly there's not a scratch on them. Very Impressed 
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#131 25 Sept 2005 at 8.01pm | | |
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Nick Buss, Custom Built 9x1,12ft 3 1/4 TC
First of all I know there are two reviews on these rods already, but I would like to add a few images and exactly how I am finding them after a few months abuse!
I decided to go down the custom built route after reading good reports from members off this forum, a few people recommended me to Nick Buss, and after doing a bit of research on the net it seemed he was the man for the job. When I called Nick, I hadn’t really a clue on what I was looking for, but after telling Nick exactly what I wanted the rods to do he put me in the right direction and recommended a blank that would suit me. The main thing I was wanting the rods to do was to throw a PVA bag a fair distance, a lot of my fishing involves PVA so I defiantly needed a rod with a bit of back bone. I also wanted the rod to chuck a lead a nice distance but still be able to drop it under my rod tips. He recommended I were to go with a rod over 3lb TC, and the rod that would suit me best was the 9x1.
Anyway, after another couple of conversations on the phone I was to choose what fittings I had on the rod, I opted for Fuji triple legged SIC rings, starting at a 40mm butt ring. The reelseat was to be the Fuji DNPS with stainless collars either side and a part Japanese shrink rubber handle. This was complemented with a little stainless butt cap and my name written on the blank, just above the reelseat.
A cheque was sent and a short while later 3 rods were sat nicely on my alarms, first impressions were very good. The rods were very tarty indeed, the only problem was I had to wait a couple of days until I could give them a fair chuck! On my first cast with a 3oz distance lead I was amazed, the lead didn’t seem to land, and I wasn’t giving it any “umph”, after wondering what the hell had happened I saw it land out towards the far margin! I couldn’t believe what a difference the rods had made, I was easily putting a good amount of yards on my cast, just from a change in rods (I suppose you would expect this though as my old rods were 2.75lb TC). Second cast I thought I would give this a bit more effort, once again my lead sailed into what would be untouchable water with my old rods.
During my time using them I have punched out some decent sized bags one hell of a distance, the rod seems to cope with anything you give it, I must admit they did take a bit of getting used to while playing fish but after a few fish you learn to fight them in a different way and it all becomes second nature.
I would say this rod is a brilliant all rounder especially if you are going to encounter some long range work or bag work. I would highly recommend this rod to anyone and I have absolutely no regrets in parting my hard earned cash. If you can afford them defiantly go for them!
In fact I was so pleased with Nicks work I have just ordered a custom built spod rod and also a matching marker rod which will be something a little special……………..To be continued!
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#129 3 Sept 2005 at 10.17am | | |
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ESP VERTEX 12ft 3lb
I have had the rods a few months now and i must say how impressed ihave been with them.
They have coped with pva sticks,pva bags and method feeders .Ihave caught fish from 7lb to 26.5lb ,from distance to under the rod tips,and alot of fish have been caught from heavy weed and lilly pads. There has been no problems of hook pulls.And my last plus point is the build quality is second to none.
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#128 31 Aug 2005 at 7.08pm | | |
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Fox Matrix 2.5lb.
Only had the rods a few weeks and think they are totally awesome,they look amazing like no other rod on the market,they have a class texture to the blank because of the kevlar over rap,feel incredibly light and are a pleasure to use.
They are more of a through action rod,which is the type of rod I like ,nice casting rod for up to medium range and an absolute joy to play fish of all sizes,from under the rod tip -out in mid water.
The fittings are all fox's own,wasn't sure about this at first but once I got the rod I was quite impressed and theres a nice little extra in that the reel seat has beta light slots for when you'r night fishing,and the joint is excellent,it's a spigot but it is completely consealed by the top section so no carbon is exposed.
All in all a great rod,worth the money at £129.99
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#127 29 Aug 2005 at 8.57pm | | |
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In reply to Post #126
Im sure im not the only one who cant afford to spend upwards of a ton for a rod, so i was relegated to having to opt for something a bit easier on the pocket. I have had a set of Fox Rangemaster II for around a year and can honestly say they have done everything I have asked of them, I can punch a lead as far as i need too on the waters i fish and find playing fish a joy. When i started i had a set of Ron Thompsons, cost me about 25 quid each but when i borrowed a deep pocketed freinds Hutchy dream makers i realised i needed something with a little bit more quality. Couldnt quite stretch that far though!
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#126 24 Aug 2005 at 3.00pm | | |
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Harrison Torrix: 12ft 3 IB TC
I have had set of these for about 4 Months
I thought it was about time i treated myself to some new rods even though I considered the Chimeras first.
After my first view of the Torrix I just had to have a set of them and put the Chimeras back on the shelf. In all honesty I think I would have been over the moon with Chimeras but stretched my budget to the Torrix.
I have had a measured cast from Tel20 of 130-140 yards (Im not totally sure what the spot on figure was as I cast some many times, but no it was between these figures) I don’t have a big need to cast to the moon and back but I am pleased I can hit the 100yrds mark without to much trouble.
For me the biggest difference between the torrix and my past rods is pure pleasure in playing fish. After a lot of snag fishing since having these rods they are superb for feeling what the fish is up to pulling the fish out of danger without bullying it. I can safely say I feel my fishing has improved with these rods and made me a better angler for having them. For the first time I feel I can play a fish properly without to much intervention with the reel and use the rod as it was designed to be used.
Overall rating has to be 10/10 imo, as an all round rod, these are not animal casting tools which I was not after and guaranteed that these rods in the right hands would probably get a lead a lot further than I did.
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#124 17 Aug 2005 at 11.22pm | | |
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daiwa infinity magnum tapper mt class 12 ft 2/75 pukka on the long cast can chuk 3.4.5 .ounce leads finominal distances. blinding on the line pick up for long distance strikes.
excelent through action for playing fish even under rod tips only had one hook pull i think due to blunt hook all fuji rings as for looks the gold furnishings let it down a bit being a bit poncey in my opinion. not enough to put me off due to all the pluses in its action and the price i got them for brand new at £300 for the pair but i think thay retailed at £285 when first on the market not sure what thay are now maybe £170
had the infinity Xs but lost them to a thef  the hit and hold performance on both rods are great
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#120 28 Jul 2005 at 10.25pm | | |
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Wychwood Rage 12' 3lb t.c.
Every time I use these rods I have to remind myself I got 3 of them for less than a ton!
These are fantastic rods for the money, I took 'em to Dreamlakes and was surprised to find them equally at home whacking a bait into the blue yonder of open water, as they were delivering a bag to a treeline margin at 40 yds.
Playing fish on these rods is a pleasure. Hitting and holding on said treeline was a breeze, then the fight could be enjoyed in open water, as these are very forgiving rods, given their casting prowess.
Having owned rods that have cost considerably more than these, I cannot recommend them enough
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#117 27 Jul 2005 at 8.34am | | |
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harrison intruder lr from specialist tackle
i have had theese rods for quite a few years now and they are brilliant
for range fishing close in work anything you want.
built by vig gibson
quite simply the best rods i have ever owned.
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#112 18 Jul 2005 at 1.03pm | | |
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Have just purchased chimera 31/2lb 12 footers, a change from my 3lb ballistas.First results show effortless casting up to 70 odd yards, they seem more responsive and 'whippy' than the previous which I find allows for more accurate casting as less exertion is required. it works for me anyhow. Am yet to give them a crank up but I feel confident that they will suffice for the extent of my abilities. Was considering the FS but am unsure as to wether I want the parallel butt as I feel it is too much of a broomstick section, note; personal feelings only.
I also got hold of a cheap trio of NG's in 13' 31/2 lb that I use on the tidal Thames, but you do know when you have 13' flailing around, and I am 6' 3", 12' is more comfortable for me.
In conclusion, (apologies if this sounds like a lecture) Chimeras have the vote at this time.
BTW, the chimeras were built by a known rod builder previously mentioned and I must say the finish is quite average,not as good as the factory built , however, I needed the rods as my old ones were traded in!
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#111 11 Jul 2005 at 12.15pm | | |
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#110 4 Jul 2005 at 8.40pm | | |
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Century NG's 12' 3.5lb Test
Recently upgraded to these rods and they are out of this world, they cast like a dream, are responsive without being stiff or sloppy, will handle fish under the rod tip as well as pick ups at a distance.
Have been able to cast over 160m with these rods, but rarely go over 75m for most of my fishing.
Have practised on a field nearby and can regularly [ 5-6 times out of 10 ] put a 3 or 4oz lead into a bucket from 60 - 70m, this enables accurate casting 'clipped up' every time.
Although the rods are rated at 3.5lb they feel as if they are 3lb max. the power build up is in the lower half of the rod and you can really wind one up for a big chuck if necessary.
The 40mm butt ring ensures the free flow of line right through the rod, without any jamming whilst using leaders.
Having been carp fishing for over twenty years, this is without doubt the best set of rods I have ever had my hands on, and whilst I admit that they are expensive, you get what you pay for.
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#109 27 Jun 2005 at 9.56am | | |
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Berkely Transmitter Marker Rod
I bought this rod off a forum member the other week and I must say its performance compared to other marker rods has been impressive...
casts like a dream and really does deliver all those telling knocks and bumps. Its slightly stiffer in the lower section which im sure helps with a marker and the metal rings help with the feel of marker work.
the only real problem i have with it though is the reel seat, it looks great but is totally horrible to use, its plastic and makes sure you know its plastic! it creaks when using the rod and just feels wrong. It also is on the small side and will not allow me to use my Okuma big pit reel on there....what was wrong with a Fuji seat????
anyway, the reel seat is not something that ultimately takes anything away from the cracking performance of the blank
a very useful tool
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#104 5 Jun 2005 at 12.09pm | | |
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Harris Torrix 12ft 3.25lb
I have had set of these since the back end of last year .............
they have been designed around the action of the Chimera ,but Harrison have reduced the weight and diameter of the blank ..........
i have been fishing with confidence right under the rod tip to well over 100 yards with no fear of hook pulls ,even when i dabbled with braided main line in the winter.........they are a joy to fish with and play fish on
these rods are very easy to compress and are capable of good distances.........
i can fish affectively with these rods betwean 130 -150 yards depending on conditions.......
my best measured cast with these rods on a field is 165 yards using 60lb whiplash leader and 10lb Dawia sensor and 4oz lead & no rig or bait ,but the weather conditions were perfect for casting.......(and a little bit of tuition from TEL20)
I thought long and hard before writing this review as i am closely tied in with Harrison,but i rate these blanks very highly and would happly recommend them to anyone...............
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#102 3 Jun 2005 at 2.11pm | | |
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free spirit xs 12' 3.25 TC
incredible..first fish was a 20 that tried desperately to get in some snags and these rods have really got the grunt to hook and hold,while at the same time have a nice action on the tip to allow you to enjoy the fight from smaller fish,even tench and bream put a nice bend in these.
regards chucking a lead,well,they can do all ive asked of them so far(100+ easily),with a fast tip recovery.
somehow free spirit have combined a very slim blank (same diameter as century NG 2.75s) with a responsive tip and plenty of backbone for big chucks and hook and hold situations.
the only thing i have an issue with is that they're so light that a big pit is overkill and unbalances the setup so im switching to 10000xte's to lighten them up.
very highly recommended-10/10
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#101 3 Jun 2005 at 1.50pm | | |
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Tony Fordhams XHM 2.75t/c sportex rods
Lovely rods. powerful to cast with but lovely to play fish on. And different to what others have. Cult rod!! I havent found a rod that handles as nice!!
Down side i cant get a fourth one and i need one!!! So may have to change 
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#100 26 May 2005 at 7.00pm | | |
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Tony Fordhams
Positive points -
Light,
Nice fish playing action,
Can cast quite a fair distance,
Nice casting action,
Can withstand fair sized PVA bags,
They look nice aswell 
Negative points -
Yet to find any
Rating -
10/10
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#99 25 May 2005 at 4.44pm | | |
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Nash Outlaw XS
Current range, but bearing in mind they are being given away I would say these are soon to be replaced.
These rods have a super slim blank. The handles are split duplon and are quite small, but thats how i like them, so no worries there.
Only six guides with a very large bottom eye, MPS 18 reel seats and a nice (modest) logo that doesnt take up the entire bottom section.
Black finish all over with a slight gun metal grey tint when held to light. Absolutely immaculate looking rods. Has a 1 foot marker which is underneath the finish.
I have the 2 3/4 TC's but they feel more like 2 1/2. Nice tip action.
Wickfords of Essex done me 3 of these (posted) for a hundred quid. If you're on a budget you simply can't go wrong.
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#93 7 May 2005 at 10.00pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
greys prodigys 12 ft 3lb tc
very nice casting rods,lovely to play fish on
well recomended
jumbo
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In reply to Post #1000
bruce ashbey perimeters have just come back from la botte & they do everything i have asked 10oz method 80yards with just an over head lob, 4oz lead 160 genuine yards with ease also a delight to play fish on
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#91 29 Apr 2005 at 11.35am | | |
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NASH XTREME PURSUIT.
This is a rod i have been using for 10 months, its a rod that i have helped to put together with Kevin Nash, for long range fishing, and by long range i am talking fishing over 160 yds with bait, there are lots of anglers out there who think they can cast that type of distance, but be leave me they cant. i have seen it many times, anglers claiming that they can cast 150/160 yds, but put a tape to it and they say shock thought i could, as at the spring fishin at horseshoe showed. any way back to this rod Nash Xtreme pusuit. we were trying to put a rod to gether that would cast a bait a long way and also feel nice to fish with, there are rods on the market the claim big casts but are not nice fishing rods, i have used them all, and have been happy with some and not others, in little ways, with this rod the 13ft one, i have cast over 231yds with a 4.5oz lead, 227.75 yds with a 3.5oz lead, and 202.5 yds with a pva bag 15mm boilie and crumb in the bag, when sea angler magzine casting club instructor, came to tape up the casting distances i was doing, plus i have had a number of fish on the rods and thats from under the rod tip to fishing over 160/180 yds. and the rod has handled the fish like a dream on both xtremes, at the fishin at horseshoe using this rod and a Daiwa basia 45,plus 15lb b/s line, not 6 or 8lb like a lot of these casters use. i was doing casts over 200yds all the time, plus with this combo, i let a number of the boys have a go with the outfit, and a number of them came back saying how easy it was to cast, and the distance that they were casting was far better than there own tackle that they were use to, showing how good the rod was, as you did not need to be a monster to compress the rod, like other casting rods on the market. but you must keep in mind that in the past i have been Welsh, English and euro surf casting champion, and it takes a lot of hard work and practice to get casts of this level. the rod comes in 12ft and 13ft and it has a 3.5t/c. price of the rods are, 12ft £289.00 and 13ft £319.00, a lot of money but its a lot of rod, hope this review helps any one thinking of buying a set.
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#90 27 Apr 2005 at 9.58pm | | |
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like wise with the TFG rods first got a set of intruders 2.5 tc rods liked them that much that ive got the 3lb signature rod need to get another one now though awsome rods the 3lb loads of power 4 casting very impressed  all from hinders 2 no probs with the finish
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#88 13 Apr 2005 at 9.50pm | | |
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Shimano Hyperloop
fantastic rod with a fantastic price, excellent line flow , excellent power
reccommend these to any one, a bargain price at around 40 quid !
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Chris Orme's custome build rods.
i too have just purchased a couple of his 3lb rods and i have to say that the blank is awsome. they are a lovely kinda through action when playing fish but they still have plenty of power when you want to chuck a lead a little way!
used them for the first time last week and they were perfect, i even managed to catch a fish on one of them a cracking 18lb common that fought like a demon!
i have the rods with the shrink rubber grip and find them a little bit special, i have seen them with the cork handles too and IMO they are top. would fully recomend getting in touch with chris if you are thinking about getting some new rods.
with a side not he also produces a top carp bait that i have had good success on!
chris is a member of this forum and i think his username is CarpinChris, get intouch or mis out!
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#86 4 Apr 2005 at 12.56pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1000
chris ormes own blank (forgot name) but its his own.
i got them in 'a light 3lb t/c' they are great for playing fish and they are lovely casting rods, cant think od any down points, build quality is second to none and i got the cork handels as well which is optional
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In reply to Post #1000
I was looking for a budget casting rod a few weeks ago and I finally bought 4 3lb rage rods at £30 each. First impressions were good.. they are slim, not too heavy and look good in an understated way.
Well Ive finally had a chance to test them a bit at the end of a 2 day blank on Linford One (sob) and Im very impressed, especially as I think Im only an average caster.
I had 2 casts and measured them at 102 and 107 yards. Biomasters, 15lb sensor clear, 3.5 oz lead, tubing, flying backlead and a baited rig. This was with a controlled overhead thump and a slight facing wind.
I have no idea what I could get with 8-10lb line and a leader, or braid. Perhaps another 20 yards or so? Im only guessing but I will try it soon.
As for action, well they have very rigid butts but the top section is actually softer than a 3lb Outlaw. They have a nice curve considering the power in them and I had no problems landing a lively double on a size 10 hook a couple of weeks ago.
I cant argue with the wychwood adverts. I can well believe an excellent caster could chuck 162 yards with them.
Does anyone know what the setup was for the trials? I believe it was in a mag but not one I bought????
I cant say how long they will last but the build quality looks very good. And at 30 quid well who cares if they dont last a lifetime.
Stunning rods for the money. Anyone looking for new rods and thinking of spending 100 quid a rod should have a serious look at these first.
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#84 27 Mar 2005 at 12.00pm | | |
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Fox Bonsai 6ft 2.75lb tc (stalking rod)
-Extremely light.
-Very, very thin.
-Strong enough to pull big fish from snags.
-Very small for getting through bushes and trees to otherwise uncatchable fish.
-Beautiful carbon finish on the reel handle.
-Only £50.
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#83 22 Mar 2005 at 7.59pm | | |
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I just bought 3 Fox Rangemaster 2's from a sale for 50 qwid each. I have used them about 8 times and already i can say im not getting rid of them for a long time !! thier brilliant rods and for the price i paid to what there supposed to be i got a bargain !!!!!!!
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#82 16 Mar 2005 at 4.00pm | | |
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free spirit carp tamers 12ft 2 3/4lb tc
brill rods lovley action and cast a 3oz lead with no problems
im very funny with my rods as im paying allot of money we all not just myself like them to be spot on
the action is 100% lovley bend in the rod on the cast carnt prase them enough
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#78 3 Mar 2005 at 11.28am | | |
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In reply to Post #1
3 x Badger Slimline 12ft 2.75lb @ 100 Euro ea. Great for the small waters I fish at the moment. Very forgiving at the net. Caught dozens of fish over 20lb and three over 30lb.
Just bought 3 x 12ft 6" 3lb Prodigies for the larger venues and for my upcoming trip to France. Still virgins. But trying them out for the next couple of days. 
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I've got the signature series rods.
The first pair i got from hinders were crap. The tip ring was broken on both rods and there were scratches on the blanks.
I went back and replaced them and their fine now.
Used them the other week on a pastie water using size 12 hooks and 6lb hooklength and had no hookpulls. Theyve got a nice action, quite light but also have a fair bit of power in the butts for bigger fish and heavier leads.
Very pleased so far.
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#75 27 Feb 2005 at 9.29pm | | |
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not rods i personally own but a m8 of mine owns a set of matt hayes signiture 3lbtc rods. so any of u on a tight budget i recommend having a look at theese. there very well made,i had a chuck about with them and found them to be a very comfertable rod to use. not top heavy etc. could get a good distance with them aswell. they come with unlimited gaurantee. only down side i found is size of handle wont take a big pit reel but that can be sorted by just filing the sides of the reel seat to fit. well worth the 40 odd asking price.
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#70 19 Feb 2005 at 10.17pm | | |
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Harrison Chimera 12ft 3.00lb
best rods i have ever owned ( and i have a had a few over the years )
> Bristish blank..... good all round rod will cast leads up to 3.5oz's comfortably , cast well over 100 yards yet still has a soft enough action to be able to fish under the rod tip without fear of hook pulls........
mine were custom built by Chris Orme the service and quality are first class
if your looking for new rods i would talk to chris
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#69 18 Feb 2005 at 2.46pm | | |
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I've had a set of Greys Prodigies for two seasons and CANNOT fault them, the life time warranty is worth it's weight in gold as I've (gulp) just cut my butt sections into 4 inch pieces so as to sent them back to get the full duplons, cost, 20 quid per butt covers handling and p+p, excellent.
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#63 11 Feb 2005 at 7.53pm | | |
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ive got 3 simano beastmasters AX and they are lightweight and very slim - they are great for playing fish and stalking but they are not so great for long distance 100 yard plus....
but i love em still
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In reply to Post #56
just bought three of the new wychwood rage rods 3lb test curve very nice rods to use well balanced,cast 3oz lead and pva sticks over 100yds with ease ,for the money nice buy
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#56 3 Feb 2005 at 11.49am | | |
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i have century sp's 2/34 good rods well made and english ,i did look at free sprit rods but talked to a mate who works in a tackle shop and told me the mark up on them was huge,and the quality of the blank is not as good as the price would suggest,now i expect some come back on this but seems as its a rod review i am just putting my view across.tight lines
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In reply to Post #53
i took out a pair of hi s's and a pair of century sp's and can honestly say that both rods are fantasic!what swung it for me was the fact century rods are built up with fuji rings,and the free spirit rods are built up with their own s lite guides!look in a tacklebox catalogue and draw your own conclusion as to the price difference between the sets of rings,then look at the price of the rods!sorry but it has to be century rods for me!afterall,they hold more records for casting than any other manufacturer,and their service is second to none when you have to deal with them direct!
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#51 24 Jan 2005 at 5.47pm | | |
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Diawa Infinity 2.75lb LD factory built.
The best rods ive used by far in 27 years of carp fishing.
Light wieght but so strong. A responsive fast taper tip that makes the rod great distance caster with minimum effort. ideal with 3 -4 oz leads.
Takes on a nice bend when playing the fish and comfortable at margin work.
Wont change unless they break!
Get your self a 2nd hand set for a ton each well worth it.
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#46 16 Jan 2005 at 12.38pm | | |
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Wychwood rogue.
beautiful looking rods, nice and slim looks like a rod worth A LOT more. Beautiful to cast and play fish on in the margins as well as further out.
Great price can find them at prices of around £30 new.
at that price you can't knock them.
Great for begginers or slightly more experinced carpers on a tight budget.
i have used rods worth double the money and can honestly say i prefer these! 
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chub prohunter
Good points
These rods look the biz
Nice and slim
I have seen my mate cast upto 160 yards with them!!!!!
Nice to play fish with
cheap at only retail of £69.99
Bad points.
If you break a rod would take a while to get it fixed otherwise none
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#44 4 Jan 2005 at 12.55pm | | |
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Chris Orme built Harrison Chimeras - 3 1/4lb
These are so well built and finished.. and to be honest I was amazed at their quality. I pride myself on having and eye for perfection and these to me are faultless.
I got the 12' versions due to my height and build. I chose slim duplon abbreviaIed duplon with stainless rings and cap. To top off the rod I went for full fuji SIC rings (40mm - down).
As you would expect from such a blank and quality builder, they have a great distance casting ability, being happy with a 4oz lead, but were equally happy fishing a small commercial water, at 20 yds distance.
These rods are highly reccommended, and Chris would be my first port of call if buying anymore rods.
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#42 30 Dec 2004 at 5.37pm | | |
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In reply to Post #41
Daiwa Infinity"s in 12ft 3 1/2 tc do it for me. Having gone through many makes and models through the years I find these excellent. Top build qaulity, cast to the horizon but still reasonable under the tip. Can be a little overkill on small ponds trying to underarm beneath trees but, for the open water fishing I do both home and abroad they are fine rods.
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#41 26 Dec 2004 at 1.32pm | | |
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Chris orme - 3lbtc chimeras !
These rods seriously are just brilliant !
thay are perfect for long range fishing but yet are soft enough for marginal closer fishing .
The build quality is first class with evrything customised to exactly what you want !
I have them with full duplon stainless colars and butts!
Thay are sexy ................
Would recomend any rods bulit by chris especially the chimeras !
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#40 24 Dec 2004 at 2.44pm | | |
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In reply to Post #39
Chris Orme Rods
l have 3 12½ft 3¼lbtc chimeras.These are possibly the best rods on the market at the moment.l had full cork handles which is optional.The build quility on these rods is as good as it gets.For the ultimate in quility talk to Chris you will not be disapointed
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#39 23 Dec 2004 at 9.07pm | | |
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In reply to Post #38
chris orme's rods
I have four harrison ballista slims built by chris they are all 12 foot 3lb tc
the build quality is second to none and so is the service
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In reply to Post #35
Wychwood Barbel 1.5lb TC
Owned - since 9/04
Yep, I know they are not carp rods, but for anyone who is fishing small or open waters and wants to try going light, then these are cracking rods.
Pluses:
Full corks - lovely
Double leg rings - nice and strong, no nancy single leggers on this baby
Very slim, can't be much over 10mm at the butt
Lovely, lovely through action, superb for playing fish
You can now pick them up for £40, superb value
Great for light leads, float or mixer fishing
Cons:
Well, they are 1.5lb TC so they're never going to chuck miles, but can throw a small method feeder or 2oz lead a decent way
You may not be able to get your big pits on the reel seats.
Overall, a brilliant players rod for lines from 6-10lb, and a brilliant price to match
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#35 3 Dec 2004 at 12.25pm | | |
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E.S.P Vertex Distance
I have had the above rods for getting on a year now, i have the 12ft 2.75lb test curve version and i have to say they are the most stunning rods i have seen on the market, the finish is second to non, with stainless steel finishes, a marbled matt grey blank with Fuji Sic rings and fittings
These rods are seriously slim too, they are allot slimmer than my old 2.5lb test curve rods!!!!!!
They are distance casting tools at heart and i can cast 90-100yards without breaking a sweat and still be confident to stick one in the margin knowing they perform well under the rod tip, i cannot fault them simply Auwsome, and the price aint an issue now as they can be picked up for £175 each instead of the £220rrp
As many many carp fisherman and respected tackle dealers have told me they are simply the best
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#34 27 Nov 2004 at 7.54am | | |
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Fox Warrior
Thought I might aswell put this up about the warrior as there seems to be a lot of threads on it, hopefully people can gain the info they want from the info on here.
Anyway...
I have had a set of warriors for about 2 years bought them as a first set of carp rods (have only been carping 2 years) and thought for £50 why not, the magazine reviews looked promising (well they would wouldn't they) and saw them in the shops and liked the slimline look and the blanks they have got. The Warrior is not the type of rod you take to a water expecting to punch out a 4oz lead 100+ yrds for 3lb test the rod is still very soft up against other 3lb rods.
I have had about 90-100 yards out of mine with a 3oz and wouldn't want to go any heavier than that (baring in mind I have got them in 2.75lb).
On the whole unless you are fishing a massive pit they are fine for most situations, I have been able to get fish away from snags with them and been able to cast to most areas with them They are also good under the tip due to them being soft.
For what I think they are now £44.99 you can't go wrong. If you have been thinking about getting them just go and get them you won't regret it.
EDIT: Owned the rods since 03/03
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#31 26 Nov 2004 at 2.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #30
Free Spirit E.S 2 3/4lb
I bought these rods just before Xmas last year and since ive had them i cant fault them! They are excellent at playing fish and really do bend, you really feel in contact with the fish when playing them They are probably one of the softest 2 3/4 rods ive used compared to some others ive tried but are still quite capable of chucking a lead 100yrds. They are well made rods with s-lite rings (i think!) and a nice weave on the blank, only downside is probably the price, at £199.99 rrp, but you can get 10% off at most shops. I dont think i could of spent my money on any rods much better
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#30 25 Nov 2004 at 0.23am | | |
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Century Armalites MK1
I have a pair of these (that were passed onto me by my Grandad) in 2.5 TC.
Not having tried many different rods, I feel pretty limited as to what I can say about them in relation to other rods, suffice to say that after 14? years they are still going strong.
They have a nice dark green finish, rings + rod seat that are still in good condition,
They're v nice to play fish on, and cast quite well. A nice slim blank too compared with other rods of its generation.
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#28 23 Nov 2004 at 9.26pm | | |
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In reply to Post #27
for me its sportex exclusive s 31/2 for big range work with bags and such
and the FBC for up close and personal , what an action !! lets you show whos boss with control .
and for my medium range work although not a top name to some as i got them at a bargain price for £50.00 the maddocks challenger 2 3lb test
everyone has there personal choice but in honesty its the sportex for me.
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#25 19 Nov 2004 at 11.30pm | | |
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In reply to Post #24
fox rangemaster 2 3lb tc
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nice looking rod
very strong with backbone
plenty of casting potential
fuji rings
fuji reel seat
reasonable soft tip
quality line clips
i said they are not very forgiving but after using them today they are forgiving rods espescially under the tip.
action is middle to tip although it really bends all the way through when you really put a bend in it!
only £75
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full duplon would look good on these
butt cap a bit strange
all in all these are perfect all round rods and are fairly priced.what more could you ask for at 15?
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#24 19 Nov 2004 at 9.22pm | | |
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DAIWA WHISKER
PROS
*nice finish(people keep commenting " those infinitys?" lol)
*can chuck a lead/bag/method a mile in the right hands
*practically unbreakable (mine have had some abuse)
*rest stop on the handle for fishing "locked up"
*nicely balanced with big pits
*made in england
*a good rod for the price tag
*fairly individual cos no-one else seems to have em
CONS
*rubber butt cap (could look nicer)
*something is loose inside the butt section of mine and rattles up and down it when it is turned
*maybe a bit too stiff in the tip section for the tench and bream fishing i usually end up doing
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#22 17 Nov 2004 at 1.46am | | |
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Greys X-Flites
In 2.75lb and I have had them for about a year.
The finish on them is excellent, Fuji S.I.C. guides, a strong Fuji nps reels seat, a micro carbon weave blank that is extremely thin for the test curve. as a nice touch, on the butt cap is etched with the logo GREYS,
Greys describe the colour as dark olive but this colour can only be seen through the black coating when under direct sunlight, other than that they look a dark glossy black with the micro weave snakeskin effect showing through. The tip has a lovely fish playing action, but is powerful in the bottom two thirds of the blank giving it plenty of casting potential.
Though these rods cast very well, they are by no means poker stiff, even playing smaller carp they are responsive, and cushion the lunges of the fish beautifully. the best rods i have ever owned.
Downside,
they cost £179.00 and most places only discount to £169.00
thats it!
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#20 15 Nov 2004 at 2.11pm | | |
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In reply to Post #19
Fox Xtreme 13ft 3lb TC
Owned since 10/04
Just bought three of these second hand to replace my old Giants. The Giants were good rods, but I wanted something with a bit more of a through action to serve as a piking rod too.
Pros:
Handle: Full duplon as standard, I can't stand abbreviated handles - full handles are much nicer for playing fish
Rings: The Fox double leg rings are very sturdy and built to last, much stronger than single leg jobbies, which I feel are only put onto a rod to save time and money on the build.
Finish: Understated rather than flashy, the blank has a woven matt finish and all whippings are gloss. The quality of the finish is excellent and the built-in line clip doesn't have any sharp edges, unlike some rods on the market.
Action: I would say that the action is best described as progressive. When I first bought them, I felt they would be ideal for piking but maybe not so good for a big whack on the lead. How wrong I was - because I can compress the blank easier than with my old rods, I can suddenly cast an extra 20yds with a 4oz lead! They are a pleasure to play a fish on too.
Cons:
Length: at 13ft, you may have to buy a new holdall
Weight: As you would expect from a 13ft rod, they aren't the lightest or slimmest around.
Overall, if you are looking for a rod that is forgiving under the tip, suitable for heavy work, and built to last, you have to consider these
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#19 15 Nov 2004 at 11.12am | | |
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Tails up Nirvana - 2.75lb
Actually bought these on ebay and cannot fault them. Cost me £50 each but would pay the full whack of £150 for them. Cast and play fish like a dream. What more could you want.
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#18 14 Nov 2004 at 1.19pm | | |
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In reply to Post #17
Have recently bought a fox warrior rod. It is excellent value for money at around £50. It is very strong for such a slim rod, and has more power than you might expect for such a bargain. In addition it looks great, and when buying remember that it has a good range of test curves to choose from. At £49.99 they are all 12 feet long, but with 2.5lb, 2.75lb and 3.0lb test curves to choose from. The 13foot version will set you back an extra £15, and comes with a 3.25lb test curve.
I would reccomend this rod to any serious fishermen who dont want to break the bank for a new rod!
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#17 14 Nov 2004 at 8.06am | | |
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Rod: Nick Buss 9x1 3.25tc
Blank: Harrison custom design by Nick Buss
Fittings: Fuji Alu/Oxide guides (one down from SiC), Fuji NPS seat, Full Duplon
Price: £145 (depends on fittings and amount of rods bought)
Until 18 months ago I didn't have a clue who Nick Buss was. A fellow CF member recommended him and I did some investigation. I was looking for a rod to replace a 3.5 Century NG as i felt it lacked that extra bit of power I needed when trying to put a PVA bag out at distance. Nick invited my down to his house to see the selection of blanks he had and to discuss my requirements. I eventually settled for the 9x1. I was lucky enough to have one of the first sets as Nick had just received these new blanks. I can homestly say they have been perfect for me. I can cast a bait well over 150y, and bags over 130y. They have a lovely action and cushion fish under the tip very well. I've happily used the as margin rods too. They are a great all round rod. If you only have funds for one set of rods these should be your choice, they do everything you could reasonably expect.
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#16 11 Nov 2004 at 11.55am | | |
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In reply to Post #1
Tony Parker Arbitrators (12ft 2 3/4lb Test Curve)
I bought a set of these five years ago after a couple of anglers on my water were raving about them. The more places I'd fish, the more I'd be told about these rods by the guys in the know and one day after meeting an old mate in a pub, he gave me Tony's number and told me to get on the case.
I phoned Tony up and told him what I wanted from them and he suggested the blank, test curve etc that he thought would be best suited to me and I chose how I wanted them to be built (at no extra cost to the rod price).
Two weeks later and I met him outside a local tackle shop and he passed the rods onto me. I was absolutely amazed with the build quality - they were A1 and felt amazing compared with my previous set (a set of brownings). Tony told me that I would be shocked on my first cast when I used them and when trying them out the following day I nearly cacked myslef as the rod was compressed for the first cast and the varnish around each eye 'pinged' from where it has been set. A very strange feeling but a fun one nonetheless.
Five years later I have used the rods for virtually all of my fishing - I have been told that in casting competions the 3 1/2 lb test curve models can do 140 yds+ but I'm not a big caster and have never given them proper welly. I can get a PVA bag with a 3 oz lead about 70 yards accurately with them but have never needed to fish much further so cannot comment on that.
I have caught fish from under 5lb to 35lb+ and not had any problems with hooks pulling etc and when you need to clamp down, they bend through to the but and have enough power to stop fish in their tracks. Looks wize - mine are built on grey carbon weave blanks (a blank especially made by Harrison I believe) and there's not many other rods around that look that similar.
Have been over the moon. Everytime I think of buying a new set of rods, I look at my Arbi's for about 5 seconds and call myslef an idiot as there is no need. Basically as far as I'm concerened, they're the nuts!!!
Plus points -
1) Completely custom made to suit the anglers needs. No extra charge for different handles (inc cork), whippings and names.
2) Extremely well built
3) Superb casting rods - seem to chuck better with bigger weights. Have no problems sticking PVA bags 70 yards +
4) Availabilty of Twin tips at £70 extra per rod which will turn them into 3 1/2lb tc.
5) Amazing at playing fish - through action which makes it a joy to play big fish under the rod tip yet there is enough power in the but section to control big fish under the rod tip.
Negative points
1) Compared with some other modern day rods the seem a little heavy (probably just me)
2) Because everyone rates them so highly, it's impossible to pick an extra one up second hand (also most sets are unique so the only way to get another matchin one for me set is to get a new one made up for me)
will post some pics next week after my next session.
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#15 11 Nov 2004 at 1.56am | | |
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Terry Hearn 12'9",3.25tc carp
Plus points
1.Good for chucking big leads,pva and method feeders.
2.Nice tip action whilst playing fish on(once in a blue moon).
3.Good for underarm casting along margins etc.
4.Nice looking rod in general.
Minnus points.
1.The extra lengh can cause problems in tight swims.
2.They dont fit in a 12ft holdall.
3.The butt caps scratch very easily.
Apart from that they are the best all-round carp rod ive owned(and ive owned a few).8 out of 10 i think fair
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#14 10 Nov 2004 at 11.08pm | | |
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Century Full Metal Jacket
The Full Metal Jacket is a radical design and now proven beyond doubt. Based on a parallel butt only 1/2" in diameter with a sophisticated variable action - called Gearbox Design, that enables casts at huge range and a sweet playing action. The design is based on the selective blend of several types of carbon fibre, overwrapped in chevron ballistic nylon and fused together in the crucible of the AutoClave. The FMJ when fitted with the optional SS20 reel seats is undoubtably the most sensational looking rod around, its performance reflects this unique look.
Carbon abbreviated handle with DNPS reel seat. Optional special order SS20 Stainless Steel reel seat.
Rings: SIC size 50 Butt Guide
Gunmetal finish.
plus
as a casting tool it is simply awsome, the compression that you can get with this rod is second to none
looks the dogs danglies
and with the stainless reel seat
minus
quite a heavy rod
because of the 50mm butt ring i can see problems with certain rod sleeves
at £289 per rod they are not cheap but quality never is
rating 9 1/2 out of 10
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#13 10 Nov 2004 at 6.13pm | | |
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In reply to Post #1
Just aquired the TFG X2s 2.75tc.A couple of monthes ago,very slim blank,build and finish are very good.
Pros,
1.Very cheap,only £240 for three,although RRP is £99.99 each,but Kieth's Sport's in Saltburn does em at discount.
2.Great for casting that bit extra,upgraded from some great rods purely for that purpose.
3.Good looking rods without been flash.
4.Top grade rings and reel seat.
5.Fantastically light and balanced,even with the big pits on.
6.Fish playing is a dream,even under the rod tip.
7.A recommended rod for those wanting a great rod without the price-tag
Against,
Have'nt found a problem yet,but will update if i find any problem.
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In reply to Post #10
Century NG’s autoclav
Pros
great to play fish with and a good casting tool.
An excellent all rounder.
cons
the ring’s on the tip are twin legged, single legged would have been a better choice in my opinion.
I also have Daiwa Infinity MT’s 2.75lb tc
Pros
The best rod I have ever used. And I have used a lot of rod’s.
cons
None.
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In reply to Post #9
Ron Thompson C-14
Pros.
Great sensitivy when playing carp
Cheap only 50 quid you can get three for about a ton
Long range casting ability
Cons.
DONT STAND ON ONE mine snapped when it did but i said it was snapped when i got it so... i got a free one!
Isn't the best on the market for 50 quid
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Diawa Infinity Magnum Tapers (13ft 3tc)
Advantages
These rods are an excellent balance between casting tool and fish playing instruments, though they are quite stiff if you are just to playing fish on soft through action rods but I hooked fish under the rod tip without any problems with hook pulls. With them being 13ft fast taper the pick line up on the strike brilliantly when fishing at extreme distance. I can cast further with a 3oz than a 4oz with these rods, 3.5oz being about idea. The quality of these rods is good as expected.
Disadvantages
£325 rrp! Though you can pick them up for around £220 if you get 3.
They are not the slimmest blanks in the world, the 13ft version being quite chucky
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Nick Buss Parralell Butt rods (customs) 3 - 4oz casting weight
although I am probably not best qualified to do a revue on these rods hear goes.
I have over the years of carp fishing owned 3 sets of rods. I started out using leeda 7000's not rung for distance. Then, I moved on to Nash pursuit horizon's in 2.75tc, and although fine rods, are not made IMO for big chucks.
I Invested in a set of Nick's P.B's solely for the pupose of whacking out leads upto 4oz. After talking with Nick, we came to the conclusion that the 3 - 4oz casting weight versions would best suit my needs.
They are produced on a Harrison blank, and as the name suggests, the butt section is of a parallel construction (as thick at the spigott joint as at the butt), therefore the power needed to fully compress the blank is considerable. Overall, these rods are mainly a mid to long distance casting rod, but are quite responsive under the tip. I have personnally casted them over 130 yards, and with a little more practice, and a better technique, will probably advance that considerably when needed.
plus points:
they are built on blanks made by a very well established and respected manufacturer.
fixtures and fittings are specified by you, and you can then have them as "flash" as you like ie SS20 reel seats, stainless caps etc if that floats your boat
they are not as dear as some factory built rods
they will chuck a lead a long way in the right hands
minus points:
they are big chuck rods, not really taylored to margin fishing.
although I said before they are not as dear as some rods, they would not be classed as cheap (quality comes at a price here).
you would have to wait for them to be built, although, nick does encourage you to see his wares before having them built.
hope that this isn't to shabby a review
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GREYS PRODIGY 2.75LB T/C
I first got these rods at the start of the year, as i won them . First impressions sexy looking rods, very light and slim.
I've found with them that the tip is a little stiff but not that much that you always notice it, they are great caster to medium range (100 yards+) but after that they lack the power, 3.5oz leads ive found always work well, but below 2oz they dont perform to there full potentional(sp). If you are looking for a buget rod with the looks of a rod twice its price and the features too, then this rod will suit you.
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In reply to Post #1
CENTURY FAT BOY SLIM.
These are probably the least popular rod in Century's current range but I absolutely love them, they are probably the slimest blank on the market for there test curve ( I use the 2.75tc) and are a genuin parabolic action ie they bend right through into the butt, you have all read the sales blurb from makers who claim thier rods are for the connosuer and you can feel every twist and turn of the fish well with these it's true they are gorgeous fish players but at the same time they have enough power to take control when required if you put a good bend into them. Personaly I find this action a lot easier to use on small to medium size waters whare bait placement and casting under trees ect is required.The factory build includes sic double leg guides, fuji reel seat and stainless fittings and the finish is unique as the colour changes from brown to green in diferent light conditions, some may say a tarts rod but I think they are classy.
Good Points.
1, build quality.
2, autoclav blank give flawless performance.
3, great fish players which is what its all about.
4, century rods are always sought after second hand should you decide to change them.
Bad Points.
1. Price, they are not cheap.
2. They are by no means casting tools so dont expect to put three ounces on and a bag and lay in to them or you will end up damaging a great fish playing tool.
3. If you want the best fish players but also fish with large PVA bags then these are not for you unless you can afford another set of rods for your bag/distance fishing.
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Abu Garcia Segra Stalker
Price around 45-50 pounds
Specs
- Length 7'6"/225cm
- Casting weight about 1.5oz
- Woven blank
- Abbreviated handle
Positive Points
- Good fish playing action (nice and soft)
- Spigot joint
- Very light
- Matches the prodigy rods
Negative Points
- Maybe a bit soft for hit'n'hold fishing
EDIT: oh and btw I stepped on it and it didn't break... 
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Right... here's the Ultimate Rod Review thread...
Greys Prodigy
Price around 90-100 pounds
Specs
- Fuji real seat
- SIC rings
Positive Points
- Damn sexy look (just like me!)
- Good fish playing action, also under the tip
- Spigot joint
- Acceptable casting range... a 3oz lead on a 2.75lb rod works out quite nicely.
- Life time guarantee and good customer support.
Negative Points
- Not a long range rod
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