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Pop ups keep there buoyancy incredibly well
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Not forgetting the overrated phrase loveliest of times
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In reply to Post #47 Easily excitable person ain’t i 😂
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In reply to Post #50 Don't forget the munga 🤣🤣
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In reply to Post #49 Aslong as you fish half a wrap out, off the radar and use citrus spray for mouth wash you’ll be buzzing 👊🏼
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In reply to Post #47 I'm out tomorrow for 48 hrs I'll be buzzing if I get a scaley banger especially if its a unit lol.
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In reply to Post #47 buzzing my MC Nuts off !!
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In reply to Post #46 Everyone’s buzzing for everything these days. That bloody word
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Got the despatch email today, buzzing for the arrival
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In reply to Post #43 Normally about a week
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In reply to Post #43 10 days .. but ordered on a friday night .. also spoke to them and said no rush because they were busy..
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In reply to Post #42 How long did delivery take?
I’ve ended up ordering both the pbs and 5 alive
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In reply to Post #41 my MC nut turned up today .. bought 5kg of 16mm boilies 16mm pop up .. .. 18 mm hard hookers and balanced and a small booster ,,, lovely looking smelling bait so nice after using krill for 3 seasons .. not that i won't still be using krill but I know which 1 smells good enough to eat..
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In reply to Post #40 Can anyone recommend the pop ups? Torn between the 5 alive and PBs
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In reply to Post #39 Never used Oxford however I was a big live system bait man for years and a friend was fishing a maple bait on a park lake in Essex, wasn’t a big brand bait firm I did some reserve has and found ABS and since then their Maple nut boilies have tore up the lakes I’ve been on can’t recommend them highly enough, for me bait is bait and every lake is different if you put enough in you can turn certain carp towards a particular bait however it’s not always the case and sometimes you need to change up and go back to basics or have a search through the old bait bucket and see what you can find (often a monster crab pop up lurking around the bottom slightly discoloured and hard as hell) I have no loyalties to any company and why should I I’m paying for bait not being paid for bait, I’ll give the Oxford a look however @ roughly £7 a kilo from Geoff it’s gotta be a good bailie to steer me
Not that bait cost is the most important , I’d rather pay a premium for a decent bloat that breaks down natural and doesn’t bloat out carp but I think there’s probably another thread here for that topic
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In reply to Post #38 99% certain they're the same mix my friend. The GS Crab and the others are custom mixes.
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In reply to Post #37 Is the Oxford baits one the exact same as the ABS though ? It says on the OCB site that the attractors are scopex and maples in theirs, then on ABS site it says the attractors are maplecreme and condensed milk in theirs ?
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In reply to Post #36 it's a good bait mate, anything sourced my ABS is top quality, can't say i've caught any bream on MC though! I use it as my winter bait.
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I’ve been looking at moving on to oxford carp baits myself, the mc but looks perfect for me and gets really good reviews everywhere, the waters I fish have a lot of bream in and heard that they are very fond of it, is this true ?
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In reply to Post #34 yeah the MC nut is the exact same, great bait that! the only bait i don't get a rollocking off my mother when i open those up haha!
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In reply to Post #33 Don't think any of Joes baits are the original malarkey, although the nut bait is the same as the ABS version
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In reply to Post #32 i see,
i've seen people saying it's the same as the malarkey from blakes etc, however, i was blakes last week picking up tiger nuts, they're nothing alike
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In reply to Post #31 He may well roll it in house now, hence my post referring the to past (when he got it from ABS). Chances are its still the same bait (base and liquids etc).
Good stuff, and if he was closer/ if I fished that way more then I wouldn't hesitate to use OCB
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In reply to Post #30 you're correct he does indeed.
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In reply to Post #29 I thought Joe rolled it in house nowadays??
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In reply to Post #28 Ive used OCB in the past, knowing full well it was ABS bait. Thing is, Joe is based closer to the waters that I fished at the time so could pick it up - something I couldn't do with ABS. Postage is what brings the cost of cheap bait up in a lot of circumstances.
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In reply to Post #27 Used the GS Crab, great Barbel bait...
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In reply to Post #25 using the gs crab currently., the gs crab and mc nut i've used with good results though.
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In reply to Post #25 Not used the tange-marine but have been using Joe’s bait for a long time and can’t recommend it highly enough
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In reply to Post #24 Old thread.....
Has anyone used the tangie marine?
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I used Oxford Carp Baits over the winter as Perfection stopped mail orders & I was very impressed,I used both White Nut & Mc Nut along with the Linch Specials.I can highly recommend them the lead times were fine,I ordered on a Sunday & got delivery on a Thursday & never had a problem.I caught very consistently from the off (September) & I managed a few that I have been after.I even had 1 of the big fish at 37lb on a 12mm Linch Special in December & It passed loads of White Nut in the sling.I will certainly be using them again over next winter.
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In reply to Post #22 I would like to add a few things here. Firstly I can only speak for Pete at blakes. Some baits like malarkey you can buy from blakes, often cheaper simply because his mark up is smaller due to being offset by the fact he sells particles and pellets and pet food. The bait is exactly the same, not cut or diluted or mixed differently. I know this because I have worked there. Secondly Geoff rolls several of the baits only for blakes (ie krinella and snowberry) and he won't or shouldn't roll these for any other company so I assume he does the same for Oxford baits sonubaits etc.
Blakes tell him the recipe and Geoff rolls it (often with Geoff improving or modifying ingredients as his knowledge is probably the best in the game). Yes many people have very similar baits all coming from Geoff but not all are identical. His facilities mean he can make huge quantities hence why everyone goes to him.
It's a point worth clearing up as its a misconception that blakes (and other companies) only sell his rebagged bait.
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In reply to Post #20 That proves my point entirely! For those who only want a few kilos every now and then it is so much more convenient to order online from one of the middlemen. If however youre getting through 2-300kg a year, you will get it a lot cheaper direct from source, especially if you're on one of the delivery routes and can avoid postage costs
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In reply to Post #18 Guarantee if ABS had an online ordering facility, they'd nick a lot of the middlemens business. Whether that is part of the agreement Geoff has made with them, I don't know.
I guess people near to say OCB, would weigh up the postage direct from ABS against the increased price they are paying per kilo from the middleman. Not saying everyone could ring ABS for 5kg of maple nut for £5/kg because it wouldn't happen, but if you order enough bait often enough, you'll definitely get it cheaper at some point. It's a loyalty thing both ways I think, nothing written, nothing said, just two parties scratching each other's backs so to speak.
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My only reason for buying from ocb was my mate uses there bait a lot and I'd near enough emptied my freezer and needed couple kilo to take my boy to a runs water so just chucked couple k on top of my mates order I know the bait is one of geoffs and a good bait but was just an easy option. Having used a few company's now ie abs Trent etc my next big order will be with a company that I've had my best catch rates and found to be the very best quality and I've been using for quite some time 😉
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In reply to Post #18 But it actually isn't cheaper direct? Oxford delivered is cheaper than abs delivered for 10kg so is blakes baits
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In reply to Post #17 Fair point and well constructed. However.... 1. Do you think that these people that buy from 'middle' men actually know that the bait comes from Geoff? (Agreed a very knowledgable chap). And 2. If they did know it was the same bait and they could buy 'direct' cheaper would they?
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In reply to Post #16 I get mine straight from source at a good price, but I do understand why people buy from the middle man bait company's out there. This isn't aimed specifically at OCB. There are many different companies who Geoff supplies, blakes, range baits, Oxford to name just 3 off the top of my head.
I should imagine Geoff has a pre-arranged price per kilo/10kg/100kg with these "middle men" and that these are his bread and butter customers because he knows he's going to sell X amount of tonnes of bait per year before taking customers off the street into consideration. Everyone's a winner, joe bloggs can order online from middlemen or pick up the phone and order from ABS direct. Either way Geoff is happy and very successful selling quality bait to happy customers.
I'd like to point out that I have no ties with ABS or Geoff whatsoever, other than I've bought and used his bait. All I've written above is purely what I'd imagine to be the case from a business point of view because it makes sense, a bit like Heinz for example selling beans to the supermarkets (middlemen) at an agreed price, but putting different labels on the tins and selling direct to the public from their own shop outside the factory. It's much more convenient to purchase from the supermarkets unless you live within spitting distance of the factory.
Geoff Bowers is one of the best in the business at what he does and has probably forgotten more about bait than most people will ever know, and off the back of it has formulated a very successful business, selling his bait from different angles. Good luck to the fella, in a market so saturated with new competition popping up every five minutes, he's being incredibly successful.
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In reply to Post #15 So if there was another item of tackle that you could skip the middle man and go straight to the manufacturer and get it possibly cheaper you would buy from the Middle man? (Not aimed at you personally just a collective 'you') I'm not sure many would. So why with bait? WITHOUT PREJUDICE!!!ol.
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In reply to Post #14 Must admit I've often wondered myself why people would buy Oxfords MC Nut for example, instead of buying maple nut straight from ABS. Especially when you can buy it a fair bit cheaper from Geoff (depending on quantities ordered and frequency of orders). Then it struck me as being obvious, you can order straight off Oxfords website instead of picking up a phone! Online ordering is so convenient these days and as yet it is not available on ABS' website. That is the only logical reason I can think of anyway.
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In reply to Post #12
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In reply to Post #11 ok now you're just searching for my comments lol
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In reply to Post #10 I don't. but if I have an opinion or knowledge regarding a company I comment.
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In reply to Post #10 They're re-sellers nothing more. - and? people are buying bait and not nbel prize for peace!! not really extreme science to make a bait that will catch carp!!
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In reply to Post #8 why does everyone even entertain going to these "bait companies" who use goofs basemix with a slightly different artificial flavour?
and why do you seem to knock every other bait firm that is mentioned ????????????????
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In reply to Post #8 Well I'm happy with it and it seems to catch a hell of a lot of fish 🎣🎣🎣
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In reply to Post #7 why does everyone even entertain going to these "bait companies" who use goofs basemix with a slightly different artificial flavour?
They're re-sellers nothing more.
A bait maker formulates bases, makes it from scratch, and puts their name on it off their own back.
The next distinction is bait makers who know what they're doing and then people who really don't but think they do.
The next distinction is between the two who know what they're doing, which has the integrity to make less but keep a higher quality? and formulate mixes to catch carp rather than be a great seller?
you pays your monies. But I will say ( and unbiasedly ) you'd of been better off going to the source.
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In reply to Post #6 To be fair some waft and some are more boyant so no big problem and nothing that would stop me ordering more bait from them
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Recieved my mc nut today, service is very good only thing I have noticed is the pot of wafters I ordered look more like dumbells and chunks missing out of a lot of baits and they behave more like pop ups. The freezer bait is spot on, smells lovely and good soft texture ☺️
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In reply to Post #4 Abs enyzme - The GNZ is a natural, highly digestible fish base mix which uses our fish enzyme liquid, our devastating garlic concentrate and very low levels of flavours.
G'S CRAB -
The GS Crab is our number 1 selling fishmeal bait, with good reason, as it has a reputation of hammering the waters it’s been used on.
A proper big fish bait, the GS Crab is a dark brown fishmeal bait, made from a blend of top quality fishmeals, bird foods and milk proteins.
The GS Crabs main liquid attractors include a garlic concentrate, liquid fish enzyme, and an excellent crab flavour with essential oils.
Dark brown in colour will work all seasons
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In reply to Post #3 On that basis, what mix is their GS Crab based on?
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In reply to Post #1 its basically abs baits made made by geoff, got 10% off at the moment though
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In reply to Post #1 MC nut is a quality bait. Great service and lead times in my experience
Cheers
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Anyone used them?
More interested in comments on service and lead times
Had dome samples and ghe quality looks good
Cheers
Mark
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