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   Old Thread  #211 18 Dec 2015 at 5.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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This was found on Blunham angling clubs dovecote lake beginning of the week, they have also lost a 30+ common. The mad thing is some members are in denial it's otters it's unreal and the club can't fence because it's farmers land blah blah blah.....
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   Old Thread  #210 17 Dec 2015 at 10.16am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think that less than £9 a meter, fully fitted including numerous gates, access points, machinery etc isn't expensive in the grand scheme of things.

However, it took some work to get it down to that price, and all members helped out. As Joss said, lot cheaper than the stock was.

Factor the cost in and spread it over membership for 3 years and youll have a lake for life protected and continue to fish for years to come.

Without a fence - no lake is safe - FACT
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   Old Thread  #209 17 Dec 2015 at 10.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Totally agree Joss, also the warning that 'the otters are coming' was repeatedly given many, many times over the last 15+ years and yet most just ignored it.
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   Old Thread  #208 17 Dec 2015 at 9.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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it costs far more to re stock than fence..!!

something that's always baffled me if one can fence
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   Old Thread  #207 16 Dec 2015 at 10.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I've moved on from 2 local waters that I had hoped to fish for the rest of my life because of otters. Sadly the costs of fencing were too high for most members and now they are simply not worth fishing for carp.

Really is gutting.

Fencing simply has to be done and built into the syndicate price. I sometimes wonder though that owners are looking to pass the costs on too quickly. This can kill membership and is self defeating.

Surely it has to become the norm and funding managed sensibly so these lakes survive.
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   Old Thread  #206 16 Dec 2015 at 10.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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would you mind Pm;ing me locations?

Im in the process of doing a map of sightings and fish kills...no fishery will be named or details given away, just a pin on a map...

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   Old Thread  #205 15 Dec 2015 at 10.07am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's a story I hear every winter, and have been doing for at least the past five years – and its getting worse.

The Otters claimed their first true “Scalp” the other week around here, as in exactly what I predicted would end up happening (I wish I had been wrong!) is happening!

No Fence = No Fish = No Members = No Money = No Lease!
So Kiss the water goodbye - its now happened. What was once a very good water with old english Carp in it is now lost, all because the owner is a total “Tool”, and would not let the Club that had it, put a Fence up!



Dave, if the owners won't let you Fence it (You use Railway Sleepers with the Fence Posts fixed on top of them when fitting Fencing next to a Canal Bank, so it can be done with ease) And also not let you have a “Rolling Life Lease” on the lake, then there's sod all you can do about the situation.
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   Old Thread  #204 14 Dec 2015 at 11.08pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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It's **** mate, it really is. Not just our pool either. Anothe local pool about a mile away has lost a few fish as well..although they seem to be dealing with the problem more successfully than we are.
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   Old Thread  #203 14 Dec 2015 at 11.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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really sorry to hear that mate, its gut wrenching and heart breaking.

This is the time of year otter cause far more damage, without fencing, sadly nothing you can do to protect it
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   Old Thread  #202 13 Dec 2015 at 8.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well it's finally happened on the small syndicate pool i've been fishing for the past two years.
In the past 2 weeks we have lost 6 Carp to a single Dog otter.
The tally so far to this Verminous menace stands at :-

1x 30lbplus Mirror which we'd watched grow on from low twenties in the last 18 months.
1X Mid 20lb Mirror (last caught by myself at 26lb 6oz)
1x Low 20lb Mirror (last caught by myself 14 months ago at 20lb 2oz...looked around 22-23lb
1x Low 20lb Common that was known as the Grey Common due to its colour
1x High double common around 18lb
1x Mid double Koi

We are pretty convinced that we have lost other fish to mid 20's in the past to the otters as there are a handful that have been on the missing list for the past 12-24 months that used to see the bank on a fairly regular basis.

The sad thing is, due to the pools location is we cannot fence it as it is too close to the canal which runs along the entire length on one bank and has most of the swims on it.
Also the owners care little about the fish as they are "Horsey" people, thus the pool is little more than a pond in the corner of a flooded field that we pay them for the right to fish it on a yearly basis.
The fact that the rights are on a yearly basis doesn't encourage us to fork out for a fence.

It's looking like the future for the place is rather bleak, which is a shame as it's a cracking place to be.
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   Old Thread  #201 8 Oct 2015 at 9.22am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Everybody can like it or lump it Joss, that's the harsh reality of the situation from now on......... Its a shame for the Canals & Rivers. But there is sweet sod all anyone can do to change it, even if they was allowed to.


Luckily there is a lot of responsible fisheries that are protecting their future – and in doing so protecting the future of the sport, its not all doom & gloom.
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   Old Thread  #200 8 Oct 2015 at 9.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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but its a crying shame we should walk away from the water we love and care for...the poor rivers and canals :(
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   Old Thread  #199 8 Oct 2015 at 8.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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the waters that simply cant be fenced for varying reasons I really feel for.


If you can't Fence it, its just a total waste of time, money & effort – Walk Away.

I turned down a place on an exclusive “Dead Man's Shoes” Syndicate last year, when asked the reason “You have no fence, the last thing I want is to join, enjoy fishing the place, and then come winter have to start walking the banks/margins looking for Carp Carcases before & after every session, sorry been there and got the T-Shirts”
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   Old Thread  #198 8 Oct 2015 at 8.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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im already getting reports of increased otter sightings from waters and worried anglers.
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   Old Thread  #197 8 Oct 2015 at 8.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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the waters that simply cant be fenced for varying reasons I really feel for
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