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   Old Thread  #94 25 Jan 2014 at 8.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I would walk away mate....i understand totally how you feel believe me, i do...

Otherwise you are going to hurt ,alot more when the lake is barren...if the owner will not listen even when you have shown him all the evidence,there is nothing more that you can do....

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   Old Thread  #93 25 Jan 2014 at 8.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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These are the one and same people who have ruined course and trout fishing in the Tamar Valley,horrible do gooders indeed ..Anyone one who loves carping and wants to point the finger in anger ..@

The Tamar Otter sanctuary North Pertherwin .Launceston have a lot to answer for........

I also note the owners often spout environmental rubbish in the press ,one of which is a local council member...[.all on the same council] which a local politicians family [lib dem]...destroyed a complete habitat so holiday makers wouldn`t get there feet muddy or ,on water from trees landing on the expensive clothing they party wear...as they walked around a lovely little lake and former productive ecosystm...

all in the name of a nature trail............ ....
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   Old Thread  #92 24 Jan 2014 at 7.42am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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he defo isn't interested in money mate...an extremely wealthy chap
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   Old Thread  #91 24 Jan 2014 at 2.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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filmed by the tamar otter sanctuary scumbags
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   Old Thread  #90 24 Jan 2014 at 1.32am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fSc_JE0q46I&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfSc_JE0q46I

otter kills an heron
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   Old Thread  #89 23 Jan 2014 at 9.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Take it he doesn't need them money then because they don't pay the rent. I know of a water with restricted access and an otter fence so its do able. They are waxing lyrical about the buggers on winter watch atm.
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   Old Thread  #88 23 Jan 2014 at 8.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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his decision....

spoil that natural look...ruins it for walkers.....access to lake for villagers etc
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   Old Thread  #87 23 Jan 2014 at 7.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I need to fence...END OF....its been refused as it has too much of an impact

On what grounds Joss????
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   Old Thread  #86 23 Jan 2014 at 5.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Thank you mate

heres one.....my lake of which I rent .....ive done everything...and I mean bloody everything...its turned from a muddy hole into a wonderful estate lake...ive been congratulated by walkers and landowner alike...

"its never looked better..well done on all your hard work"

I will add its not just me, but committee and its key members...

NOW...after being ottered on several occasions I approach landowner with FACTS...not rubbish and guess work...I mean FACTS....im not the person to mess a round....im a successful businessman who don't do anything but FACTS

I need to fence...END OF....its been refused as it has too much of an impact

I have choices..

1) walk away from a lake ive fished since I was 9..im now 46

2) Battle with the law

3) run the gauntlet

today...I feel sick...sick because the Angling trust whom represent angling...(but only its members) don't give a f**K...and a most of their members are forced members...rant over...wake up fisherman as a whole...and that includes you match anglers....cause there aint going to be much of a future in angling very soon

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   Old Thread  #85 23 Jan 2014 at 4.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Gutted for you Joss and everyone who is trying to make a go of it and is getting decimated by otters after all the hard work that goes into getting something up and running.
Believe me I know that sickening experience of turning up to your own lake or should i say one you are running to be faced with dead carcasses of fish that you have invested time and money in and can recall the last time you caught the said fish you are looking at dead on the floor.
All this happened to me and a few friends a few years ago now and I have lost count of the amount of otter petitions and social media sites that I have signed up to or supported, I feel that although it is not a waste of time it is however a lost cause everywhere you look it is becoming more apparent that the situation is getting worse tenfold every year.

I appreciate that people/Anglers will say that you should of protected the lake with a fence but this is not always a choice you have for many other reasons than cost.

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   Old Thread  #84 21 Jan 2014 at 7.13pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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mate....that's horrendous

Can I please Urge every angler on here and every angler that you guys know to go to facebook and press "like and share" the PAG page

there are things going on behind the scenes...support is Vital to us all
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   Old Thread  #83 21 Jan 2014 at 6.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!














Seven picked at random

All in East Lancashire, I personally know of 12 waters being hit all the time - well 11 now, as we Otter Fenced ours last Summer.
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   Old Thread  #81 20 Jan 2014 at 8.52pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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sorry chaps....ive been rather bogged down of late with business, life and all the normal stuff that surrounds us....

I will get to your pms soon and YES Wandle...thank you
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   Old Thread  #80 20 Jan 2014 at 4.10pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hello mate i pm`d you for your email addy ,as i also wish to contribute to this topic in a pictorial fashion ,as you may know this is a topic i am familiar with ,but not heard back from you...??

cheers Adam
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   Old Thread  #79 20 Jan 2014 at 12.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I can't sign it as I'm not from UK.
But i think the only way is the low suite.

P.S I see some very good business opportunities for fenced fisheries in the future but for those who used to fish in natural water especially for wild carp will be just a walk in nature
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