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   Old Thread  #54 10 Feb 2019 at 6.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Quiet a few years ago I I usually fished the clone valley lakes but was looking for something a closer to home,
After reading about Linford I decided to have a look round.
I parked on a lane and took a public footpath through the lakes as I wanted to see the lakes.

After 5-10 minutes I was approached by a guy who arrived on a quad bike in a threatening manner,
He literally jumped of his quad bike, grabbed a shotgun and Pointed it towards my face shouting what am I doing on his land, as I tried to explain I was just following a public footpath and my reasons for being there
He screamed “ I Don’t give a F@uk why you are here, get off my land or they will have to carry you off”

As you can imagine me and my 10 year old son where terrified and left,
Only now I have come to realise it was this convicted thug Dave Marle
As you can guess I have bever been back since.

It’s a small world and I just hope this lunatic gets everything he deserves,
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   Old Thread  #53 28 Aug 2017 at 9.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You will not get your investments back at all
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   Old Thread  #52 28 Aug 2017 at 9.43am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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GLL will cease to exist. The debentures will be worthless unless you keep it for yourself.
Thats why they are being sold so cheap.
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   Old Thread  #51 10 Jul 2017 at 10.56am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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In theory it ended when all 750 debentures where sold so GLL would need to buy them back and tear them up for the debenture to cease.

All I know is in 976 years time ill get my initial investment back
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I believe the debenture system is ending. Current debenture holders will remain members of the new club providing they pay the yearly membership fee. The rental of debentures will also be stopped. This is only what I've heard so it's not 100%
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   Old Thread  #48 5 Mar 2017 at 10.28pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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If anyone has any updates on what's going on at Great Linford lakes please let me know. I used to fish there over 20 years ago and the place brings back memories as I got hooked in carp fishing and loved it there. I stopped going when the debenture started as the massive cost was not affordable at the time. I have been looking into re-joining again but have seen the threads of it may go bust, gone downhill etc so am keeping my eye on posts here until it's safe to buy in. Thanks
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   Old Thread  #47 11 Jan 2017 at 8.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I doubt that'll happen, debenture refund rofl, would be nice though
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   Old Thread  #46 28 Dec 2016 at 11.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Good..... Hopefully someone can buy what's left and manage it properly.....greed really has taking its toll on their!!
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   Old Thread  #45 28 Dec 2016 at 9.49am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
As far as i am aware the debenture system will come to an end next year. not sure if members will be offered a refund or not.
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   Old Thread  #44 17 Sept 2016 at 5.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
It's a far cry from the days when it was run by ARC (Amey Roadstone Company), a "lifetime" debenture was always going to be questionable considering how owners change,circumstances change and developers start sniffing around.
A terrible loss for those who paid the full whack for a so called 'lifetimes' fishing.
At least Horseshoe seems to be going in the right direction despite two of the committee desperately trying to heave off all monies for their own greedy pockets.
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   Old Thread  #43 17 Sept 2016 at 5.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No one will ever know what's going on up there, not the best people to deal with I'm afraid.
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According to companies house Dorchester resources Ltd is not a current company, its not a dissolved company and its not a name that has been changed.

So - just what is going on?

According to the land registry David Marl owns a lot - when you say its owned by the daughter - which bits do you refer to?
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   Old Thread  #41 15 Sept 2016 at 10.53am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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nah dovecote isnt owned by the same firm
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   Old Thread  #40 15 Sept 2016 at 8.52am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm sure Dorchester resources limited are the owning group of dovecote lake next door......

David......I could see them going into liquidation as they wouldn't have to buy everyone back out of the debentures......everything is in his wife and daughters name meaning Dave could go bankrupt without losing any thing in reality......
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   Old Thread  #39 14 Sept 2016 at 10.30pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well done you for doing your research.

Sad how directors can do this, all why fleecing innocent people.
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   Old Thread  #38 14 Sept 2016 at 9.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A look at Companies house shows some shocking figures - The daughters husband has been a director at 13 companies, 11 of which have gone bust.

It looks like they are masters at getting money off people and then running away with the money.

Debts of £1.5m at the lake, that says it all.

I hope that some who loose money to this call in the police.

Thank God I found this forum, at least my money has not been robbed by them.
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   Old Thread  #37 14 Sept 2016 at 3.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Cant see them liquidating ?

The tackle shop has a new operator and is being extended as we speak. They are touting the all the lakes there side of the river as daytickets tho.

Takes the ....
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   Old Thread  #36 14 Sept 2016 at 2.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I feel for anyone who still has a debenture...

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   Old Thread  #35 14 Sept 2016 at 1.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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GREAT LINFORD LAKES PLC

STRATEGIC REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 30 NOVEMBER 2015

The directors present the strategic report and financial statements for the year ended 30 November 2015.
Review of the business

The company closed one of its three revenue streams during the year. The bar and restaurant was closed due to poor trading and unprofitability, which was evidenced for a number of years. As a result of this closure, overall turnover reduced by by 28.5% to £180,056 (2014 - 251,756).

The operating loss for the year was £381,981 of which £136,839 arose from discontinued operations. Part of the loss for 2015 relates to the impairment of fixed assets during the year. At the balance sheet date the company has a negative balance sheet of over £1.5 million.

The directors are considering the liquidation of the company.

On behalf of the board

David Made

Director

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Post balance sheet events

As referred to in note 15 to the financial statements, the company is no longer entitled or obliged to purchase the Great Linford land and waters given that the contract with Dorchester Resources Limited was not renewed on 8 December 2015. As a result, Great Linford Lakes Pt has no right to continue to enjoy the use and occupation of the site, leaving the company unable to generate revenue from the membership fees of the fishing lakes.

This, along with the planned closure of the tackle shop, leaves Great Linford Lakes Plc with no viable trading options for the future.

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   Old Thread  #34 14 Sept 2016 at 11.12am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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For that kind of money, RK Leisure would be a much better option, and by a fair margin. Obviously further travelling though.
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   Old Thread  #33 14 Sept 2016 at 11.10am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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just seen this - enough said...

http://i.imgur.com/CgMIIzo.png
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Thanks - I was wondering if I was being conned. It all sounds messy and nasty
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   Old Thread  #31 14 Sept 2016 at 10.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Save your money if I was you.....the place has been on a downward spiral for years hence why I sold my ticket......land being sold, otters taking fish, half the lakes now day ticket and it floods every year with no restocking policy what so ever.....add to the fact your never told any of this and the lifetime fishing is a myth!!

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   Old Thread  #30 14 Sept 2016 at 9.06am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi

I have been offered lifetime membership, which at face value looks like a great gift for my husbands birthday. I thought I would search the internet about the lakes and was worried to see whats written on this forum. Has this now been sorted? Is the place going to exist in a year? Is the owners daughter still around as I found another website where a woman called Julie Daniells claims to own the lakes - from that website: http://www.tynehillbarn.co.uk/localarea "Tyne Hill Barn also owns the Great Linford Lakes Fishing Complex, which is situated one hour from the cottage. Guests of the barn are permitted to use the fishing facilities as our guests, but need to notify us of this so arrangements can be made. It is a complex of 11 lakes, which includes a tackle shop and is one of the UK's top fishing sites."

Am I wasting my money (its £1500) are the lakes under new ownership?
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   Old Thread  #29 30 Aug 2016 at 12.27pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep, at one point a group of members managed to stir a right ol' hornest nest and tbh before Daves daughter stepped in it looked like a bit of positive ground was being made. As I understand it an outright no was said about a reformed committee. It ended with the whole thing being deleted and the main perpetrators for the conversation where messaged and effectively banned.

Not that I massively care anymore (I did care a lot once) I just wonder how legal or illegal the whole thing is.

As the old school members sell up due to the future changes and fresh blood pours in on the cheaper tickets tbh soon know one will know any better anyway I guess.

Cant see why other Facebook pages cant be made for ' private debenture holders only' tho ?

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   Old Thread  #28 7 Aug 2016 at 5.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No way £1,000,000 will be re invested in the site.....asking for a decent road through the complex never happened which is peanuts to pay....👎👎
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   Old Thread  #27 7 Aug 2016 at 2.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Maybe ?
I feel sorry for any ticket owners like you mate. If you cannot express freedom of speech on face to face terms with the owners, or on Facebook for all to see, about how badly the place has gone downhill in 10 years or so, without negative abuse from the owners..... Do you honestly think they will re- invest the £1,000,000 in the fishery / stocking.
Would Need to be flood / otter fenced to prevent futures losses at times on high water, and predatation.
But with public access now a possibility, that seems not likely to happen.
IMHO they won't. They have made their money from the land sale for property,

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   Old Thread  #26 7 Aug 2016 at 8.48am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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To be fair this may help this fisherie now as it is a complete **** hole. I have heard the owner is planning on investing 1million back into the place (although I think that is a load of bull) but the parks trust have secured half the complex so at least they will clean it up and make it accesable although the downside is that it will be open to the public.
I have been a member for 11 years and it has suffered so much in the time I have been there. They have a Facebook page which is controlled by the owners daughter so if anything is mentioned ( i.e. the state of the place) you are pm'd and abused to the point where people have been told to **** off as they are no longer welcome to fish and they have had to sell there ticket.
A cracking venue that has been so poorly mis-managed.
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   Old Thread  #25 5 Aug 2016 at 4.43pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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When as recently as a few years ago that the said area of linford lakes floods, how on earth do they get the correct and above board planning permission for 20,000 houses in what is obviously a flood plain High risk area

Surely none of the new builds will be able to be insured when they are built ?

Why does greed have to wreck some lovely fishing venues.

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   Old Thread  #24 5 Aug 2016 at 11.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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See in the local paper today the rest of the complex is being geared towards housing.....plans for 20000 houses from the site back towards haversham.....such a shame.....
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   Old Thread  #23 10 Jul 2016 at 12.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Yep..... Feel sorry for the members as its a 3 lake complex in reality......
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Went to the open day for these plans the other week, jusus, there putting them up around 3 of the lakes! They all flood every year, bloody idiots. The whole place is now a complete run down mess, so poorly run, tickets are now being sold for as little as £1000 (lifetime). These are sad times for a once fantastic fisherie.
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   Old Thread  #20 27 Jan 2014 at 7.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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After watching what was one of the very best fisheries in the country be destroyed by greed and mis management i sold my debenture last year
I bought one of the first 250 when they were released , which i thought would give me peaceful , safe and secure fishing for as long as i wanted it.
Whilst he was trying to sell more debentures David Marle actually followed through on his promises of mirroring a golf club with a decent clubhouse with members bar and resident professional (first Clive Diedrich and latterly Tim Hodges), this in my mind was the golden period when the complex rivalled anything else in the country
Then came the yearly tickets,the day tickets,the match canal,tackle thefts and scrotes wandering around unchallenged
The clubhouse bar went, the resident pro went , the roads became all but impassable due to no maintenance what so ever, the day ticket waters were stocked with fish taken from our waters and all without any notice being given or consultation with the members, who were treated with contempt
Now as a final insult to the remaining debenture holders he's going to sell off as much as he can to developers ,.
I still feel deeply saddened that i was in my eyes forced to sell my Linford ticket, but with this latest development i'm glad i sold it when i did.
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   Old Thread  #19 16 Jan 2014 at 10.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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any further info on those otters Wayne ?

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   Old Thread  #18 28 Dec 2013 at 1.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Arbo is the best lake! Well it's no loss if the club house is sold its crap in there neways. Maybe he has kept the rest??? But not sure how that will work with blackhorse??
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   Old Thread  #17 28 Dec 2013 at 12.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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At least it sounds like they will get there money back. Apart from a debenture plan being pretty seriously flawed ( how do you generate income for upkeep and stocking etc.) the whole Ouse valley area is seeing increased otter kills year on year. If the owner tells you it's not happening and they don't need a fence....... Well make your own mind up on that one
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   Old Thread  #16 28 Dec 2013 at 12.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Place needs rejuvenating........fresh fish and plenty of fences to keep the otters away......

Spoke to my mate yesterday and the land sold is near arboretum and the clubhouse apparently.......
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this is shame, i used to fish it and back in the day it was very good, i think as the years dave has lost interest in the place and its just gone down hill, i feel gutted for you guys that have tickets. hope a rich fisher man buys it if its not to late.
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   Old Thread  #14 28 Dec 2013 at 10.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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No mate......it's been ottered for a while too.......
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   Old Thread  #13 28 Dec 2013 at 8.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Won't be replacing yours then Wayne......?
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   Old Thread  #12 27 Dec 2013 at 4.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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£2000, sweet! I paid £1800 seven years ago so will walk away £200 up!
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It's being tried on in North Hertfordshire as well!, you may well find soon one big congested concrete sprawl from Welwyn garden city, Stevenage to Letchworth all over green belt land like a nasty rash.
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There has been continued building on and very near the Huntingdon and St Ives Flood Plains ( river Great Ouse) in recent times leading to serious problems for local residents/ landowners etc.
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   Old Thread  #9 27 Dec 2013 at 10.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The debenture is not worth the paper it's written on to be honest......

If dave decided to sell the whole complex then as debenture holders you would all receive £2000..... And no where to fish........

I suspect dave would go bankrupt though and owe nothing to anybody.......
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   Old Thread  #8 27 Dec 2013 at 8.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Do we have any idea how it leaves the debenture holders?
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creating country parks and visitor centers seem to be a common trend with developers, like waving a big carrot of conservation to make up for building an ugly housing estate or retail park in a place that it really wasn't wanted..

Its also part of the portfolio for Rushden Lakes on the Nene Valley, apart from removing the remains of the old ski club and building a highly contested retail park the jersey based investment company seem to think managed access to an SSI will give them that extra green factor along with their (20 year) prediction of creating 2000 jobs.

And it would appear that greenbelt land is being targeted for housing development on the Northamptonshire and Bedfordshire border the promise of reserved areas and open access to soften the blow.

When this sort of thing goes ahead it just shows that the restraints put upon land owners to stop development in the past doesn't seem to apply. IMO under the guise of housing and jobs the big money is heading somewhere with a lower rate of tax.

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I drove past yesterday dose not look good land for building on it looked like one huge lake.
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I have heard that he is looking to give up the land including lakes on the Wolverton road side of the river which would make sense as they are talking about a country park. It would be nice to see the plans to know where we stand.
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Don't u believe it. In kings Lynn, Norfolk they have built all over a flood plain. Even the sainsburys has started to sink! No where is safe
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   Old Thread  #3 24 Dec 2013 at 3.54pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I had heard about Dave trying to sell the carpark area where the heron lake is as they also want to extend the tackle shop, remember they are flood planes so building would be difficult over the whole site, I was told about this by the fella in the tackle shop so should be some truth in it, still building in the carpark is not great news as it has already become a little unsafe over that area by rocla and red house lakes.
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   Old Thread  #2 24 Dec 2013 at 3.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That's a great shame
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   Old Thread  #1 24 Dec 2013 at 10.28am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Taken from my local newspaper today.......

I wonder if any linford members were aware until today........
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