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   Old Thread  #195 22 Jul 2015 at 10.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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lythe just don't look like he fits to me, like carberry . I thought Compton weren't given enough time and he was a player with the attitude of seeing off the new ball, we don't need attacking openers with bell,root,stokes, butler and moeen in the team! even if the openers can get us past 50 form the first 20 overs, that a be a start. I hope im wrong about lythe and a smacks a double ton next bat but I cant see it

You have just made the perfect case for the recall of...





































































Geoff Boycott!
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   Old Thread  #194 21 Jul 2015 at 8.12pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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lythe just don't look like he fits to me, like carberry . I thought Compton weren't given enough time and he was a player with the attitude of seeing off the new ball, we don't need attacking openers with bell,root,stokes, butler and moeen in the team! even if the openers can get us past 50 form the first 20 overs, that a be a start. I hope im wrong about lythe and a smacks a double ton next bat but I cant see it
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   Old Thread  #193 21 Jul 2015 at 6.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I dunno what to say to that...
I wanted bell at three when trott had a spaz and bell was our best batsman, but that was 20 innings and not many runs ago...

Ballance will come back in the future, probably at 4 or 5.

Lythe has shown enough for me to give him more time, he's had some bad luck and very good deliverys among his dismissals, he needs to make runs in this series though or he'll be another Compton carberry key.....
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   Old Thread  #192 21 Jul 2015 at 6.19pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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What, so madame Lythe gets another go he just don't look like he will ever be a test cricketer. Compton done better than him and he's now on the scrapheap and will probably get overlooked. Bring back trescothick
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   Old Thread  #191 21 Jul 2015 at 12.14pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ooooooooooooo! Nasty!

It has been confirmed that Jonny Bairstow will bat at five, with Joe Root moving up to four and Ian Bell at three.

Gary Ballance has been dropped after scoring 23 and 14 in his two innings in the second Test at Lords.
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   Old Thread  #190 21 Jul 2015 at 11.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I saw that, looked painful

I thought cook would have shown bigger ******** at lords they must still be swollen from the first test

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   Old Thread  #189 21 Jul 2015 at 11.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I think Bell's time is up. He's had too many 2nd chances as it is. Bairstow? Possibly, but IMO just more canon fodder for the Mitches who will want to get the upper hand over the newcomer a.s.a.p. Take lots of padding, Jonny!

Edgebaston may prove a bit more challenging to the Aussies and if we can just win the toss...

BTW did anybody see that dramatic crash in the Tour yesterday? I thought Thomas was a gonner for sure. Tough cookie and no mistake. Maybe he should switch to cricket. We need tough attitudes like that to stand up to the quicks.
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   Old Thread  #188 20 Jul 2015 at 9.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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yeah sort of agree with you mate and I would a taken 1-1 aswell, im just shouting me mouth off about what I think will happen if we don't freshen up a bit, before the ashes started, I cant remember a test match we dominated in recent times, all the ones we won we could of lost. it all went wrong the day swann retired and trott lost his bottle, not because of the players they were, but the mental strength they had within the team, its like cogs have been falling away since and some results have flattered us

anyhow that's my rant overwith, I hope they have a little change and compete at Edgbaston, I be happy with competing
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   Old Thread  #187 20 Jul 2015 at 7.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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None of them coped with the situation where they had to defend.
for me the middle order are too quickly exposed every match, I'd like to see a youngish IN FORM opener/no 3 come in at 3, ballance drop to 4 and bell get kick up the backside in the county game.

I can't see finn coming in, he's another who seems mentally fragile, although it does seem strange to have just three bowlers and the two batting alrounders (three if you count root)

Just to add some perspective the way England have played this last 18 months I'm not upset at being 1-1 after two tests, in fact if you had offered me that after the west indies and world cup debacles I'd have bitten your hand off
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   Old Thread  #186 20 Jul 2015 at 5.58pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Bairstow looks next in line for batting position outside the top three, another positive player to go with the new attacking ethos
yes - agreed


Unfortunately when you stack a team in any sport to go hard in attack it occasionally backfires when your unable to defend.
Not agreed, we didn't even get bowled out playing attacking cricket, we didn't get the chance(apart from stokes but he knows no other way), we looked scared, that's whats worrying, maybe its right not bringing back KP but they need to decide what they want from this ashes-
Win at all costs- then bring KP back, get finn in aswell and give them some bounce, or
plan for the future- chuck a couple of no fear youngsters in and get them used to test cricket early, if nothing changes the next test is lost, the media will be having it off and the ashes will be gone

agree about the matey matey situation and we need selectors like -

Darren gough, , dominic cork, beefy and vaughny, people that recognise desire to win.
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   Old Thread  #185 20 Jul 2015 at 1.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think that's the first time "kp" and "sensible" have been used in the same sentence. Kudos for that

But replacing one old boy trading on past reputation for another doesn't seem too sensible to me.

Bairstow looks next in line for batting position outside the top three, another positive player to go with the new attacking ethos

Unfortunately when you stack a team in any sport to go hard in attack it occasionally backfires when your unable to defend.

Apart from possibly replacing bell or ballance I don't want to see any knee jerk reactions to one bad defeat
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   Old Thread  #184 20 Jul 2015 at 12.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Though I forecast an Aussie win by an innings, to be frank I think the defeat by over 400 runs is worse than an innings defeat. I am still in shock and totally agree with previous comments about the touchy-feely relationship between Strauss and Cook.

Anyone think KP will be recalled? (No, of course not! That would be far to sensible.)

So, same ****, different day...situation normal F.U.B.A.R.

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   Old Thread  #183 20 Jul 2015 at 9.13am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well said, sums it up perfectly really. Did love the people on social media saying the wicket was to blame. LMAO! Do they think Australia batted on a different wicket that was changed during the breaks?

England cricket wont get anywhere until there are wholesale changes in the way selection works. "I'm in the team cause i'm BFFs with the captain", needs to go and be replaced with earning a place.

Last moan: How on EARTH can you have a successful organisation where the man in charge is BFFs with the captain? Essentially negating the coach completely? Disgraceful, the England Old boys network needs to go, EARN YOUR PLACE. Might start being consistent then imo.
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   Old Thread  #182 19 Jul 2015 at 9.23pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Playing at balls not hitting stumps when your trying to save a test. Disgraceful.
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   Old Thread  #181 19 Jul 2015 at 4.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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joke
embarrassment
lythe and butler couldn't defend one stump, bell and balance all over the place and we aint got a bowler with raw pace, the aussises must a been at half pace in Cardiff
we are doomed, this test reminded me of watching English cricket in the 80s, I feel sorry for root and stokes

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