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   Old Thread  #18 28 Feb 2012 at 11.39am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
I just love Lift float fishing for carp with a waggler. I use it a lot for stalking, when you can prebait a few swims and then fish them in turn.
Fish it overdepth, with the float cocked and the bites you get are either real sailaways or coming up and laying flat. I attach the float with a simple float rubber, and then either water knot a hooklink on if using nylon, or a small swivel if using a "normal" carp hooklink.

With the water knot you can float ledger properly as the weak link makes a good point to attach a swan shot, or even the base loading from a ready weighted float.
If I use a swivel for the hooklink, then mould putty around the swivel.

Yes, you can use a hair rig, and no you don't have to.


Last summer a couple of mates and I went to Suffolk Water Park for the day on the back lakes, I was float fishing all day with luncheon meat or sweetcorn as bait over groundbait, and the float fishing produced more fish than sitting behind the carp rods for my mates. I had 8 fish compared to 5 between them.
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   Old Thread  #17 28 Feb 2012 at 10.20am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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this has really got me thinking back to when i first started carp fishing with a float and a big chunk of meat or cheese it was a lot more exciting than sitting behind motionless buzzers. i think the armalite and mr old shimy baitrunner are gonna get a dust off. someone mentioned polaris floats taht self cock. is there a few on the market now as judging the depth was sometimes a problem and would spook fish if i did not get it right first time
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   Old Thread  #16 28 Feb 2012 at 10.01am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm really looking forward to some early morning float fishing sessions on my lake this year - there are really deep reed lined margins that the carp patrol - there are also some cracking tench too, so i should have great fun with the small ledger and polaris setup.

I tend to use 8lb or so braid for the mainline, with about 3ft of double strength mono for the hooklength / end tackle. i really like the sz 10/12 mixa hooks from Korda, i tend to use a small hair with sweetcorn or chick peas as the bait - although pepperani or luncheon meat have worked equally well in the past.
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   Old Thread  #15 28 Feb 2012 at 8.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Brilliant way to fish for em
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   Old Thread  #14 28 Feb 2012 at 8.02am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
cheers all for the replys, think i'll be using mono through to a size 10 hook with a couple of bits of sweet corn, over a small bed of sweet corn and hemp, I have a carp waggler rod knocking around in the garage that hasnt had an outing for a long time. Thought the waggler might be a bit of run I do enjoy watching a float and it might be a presentation that the carp are not used to, i'll let you know how I get on.
Just one more sleep until im on the bank :D
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   Old Thread  #13 28 Feb 2012 at 6.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Great fun fishing for carp on a waggler float. I used to take my oldist son fishing when he was younger using this method just ust to use a float rod 10lb line and a waggler with some spilt shot. For bait would use some sweetcorn or luncheon meat or soft hooking pellets and put some pellets or hemp in the swim tobait up the swim. We also found that chick peas were quite good using this method as long as you wernt fishing over silt. Can be a very exciting way of fishing you soon find out if you have quick reactions or not.
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   Old Thread  #12 27 Feb 2012 at 11.41pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
it's all about balance., clutch settings how to play a fish.

I've landed 18lb cap on 4lb mono

shakeit dave on here only uses 10lb hook links Maxima. an his caught fourties as he knows what he's doing he knows his rods he knows his reels,

stick 4lb line on a carp rod. Snap. stick it on a 13 ft float rod the rod will bend to a certain point an this is where the reel comes into play and the person holding it.

10lb line on a float rod well it might be a bit of pain trying to get the line through the tip ring,

I don't waggler fish for carp and i certainly wouldn't if i did on a carp rod,

i'd want to use a nice soft rod light line an certainly not a boily an hair rig on the end,

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   Old Thread  #11 27 Feb 2012 at 10.24pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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One of the small lakes that I fish has a lot of carp in the 3-12lb mark,plus tench and barbel.
I sometimes fish this lake with 2 friends.
We all float fish with self cocking floats just a few yards from the bank casting to the nearby lily pads.
We use sweetcorn or pellets straight through to size 8/10 hooks and use 10lb mono line.
Due to the fact that the lake is heavily stocked its fun packed action all day long,very different to normal carp fishing but it makes a change,especially if you have blanked for a few weeks.
I will be taking my grandson on his 1st fishing trip in a few weeks time,as this is an ideal lake for him to start fishing on,and he will learn the elementary aspects of fishing.
It is amazing to watch the carp in the margins after throwing in generous ammounts of hemp,sweetcorn and pellets and just gently casting the float over the feeding fish.
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   Old Thread  #10 27 Feb 2012 at 7.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi, I would use 10lb line (normal mono) strait through to the hook. I use Drennan flexible float links to attach the float (easy to adjust the depth and change floats) and use an olivette (not inline ones) of around 4 grams 3-6 inches from the hook as the weight. Depending on the bait you wish to use a simple hair can be tied on with some light line (2lbs) as an old school original hair or use the tag end from the knot pass it back through the eye and form a loop for the hair.

Depending on the depth I fish the float just under the surface in shallow water like John Hofgartner (search you tube if in doubt) but if the margins are deep (6ft+) then I am happy to fish with the tip above the surface aka standard lift method.
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   Old Thread  #9 27 Feb 2012 at 7.35pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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it sounds more like someone regurgitating a mag article... if you are going to use a lead, why use a short rig, why a heavy lead and why have the lead drop off? what's the advantage?

yes you can use braid as a hooklength, mould a load of putty around the swivel to give you the bottom weight. Can't see the benefit of using a really short one though. The lift method is a great way of fishing, nothing quite like watching the float lift and lay flat!
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   Old Thread  #8 27 Feb 2012 at 7.06pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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A float can easily be fished with a lead, especially Polaris/lock slide floats.. What I don't understand is fluoro or sinking mainline with a float???? Surely this will cause a large bow underwater making line pick up a nightmare when hitting bites
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   Old Thread  #7 27 Feb 2012 at 7.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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sorry mis read it, for it said stalking , but he wouldnt be in this weather, had a funny moment, anyway hes got some advice if he was, sorrry
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   Old Thread  #6 27 Feb 2012 at 6.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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he is asking a question to do with float fishing and your talking about inline leads?????????????


have i missed something?
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   Old Thread  #5 27 Feb 2012 at 6.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
for a waggler rod 8-10lb line is plenty enough if thers no snags around the margins.
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   Old Thread  #4 27 Feb 2012 at 6.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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well int that case, in my weedy club lake, there are carp up 40lb and i only use 15lb x line and that is fine had carp to mid 30's in my local,
and if i was you i would go with 12lb subline, but might get away with 10lb because the diametre is so thick, its up to you, have a word with your local tackle shop.

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