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Hi all due out onto Heron in a couple weeks. first trip to France so can someone give me an idea on how much bait to take? thinking particle and about 20kg boilie and about 5kg pellet.
also i will be cheeky and ask if anyone has any tips for the lake or is there "Going " swims.
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In reply to Post #832
Had a fish hour after posting that weirdly!
Had 3 fish in total 54.10 39.12 and 28lb was 14 of us with 26 between us for the week
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In reply to Post #831
How did you get on in the end ?
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In reply to Post #827
Currently day 3 into a week on heron im in peg 21 with not a lot happening . There is swim free, Isit worth a move or am I missing something out in front of me?
Also swim 20 is free so did consider moving into that bay but not sure first time here and got alot of water to fish too
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Bricolage or any of the big hardware places sell particle its cheap also (might change when they realise the brits are buying it ) do not try to smuggle anything, not even pop ups
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In reply to Post #828
Probably best to buy a sack from somewhere over there and cook it up on the bank then
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In reply to Post #827
Yeah they do but only in 2kg tubs for €8 and there is 8 of us going so we’re thinking about getting bulk load
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In reply to Post #826
Abbey sell it themselves
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Hi All,
New to the forum, due to fish Heron lake in August for week, usually take all boillie and monster particle with us but with new customs rules this isn’t possible, does any moody know of anywhere you can buy/order bulk particle on route or close to abbey
Regards
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Just had the email from Evelyne.............. Obviously our trip at the end of march needed moving so was offered what's available. Unfortunately nothing suited us until may 2023 so that's when we are now going. Must be a nightmare for them as its one hell of a lot of bookings to keep shifting around. Im happy we've been treated as fairly as is possible.
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In reply to Post #821
Swim 5 is always a favourite it's a nice double swim
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In reply to Post #814
How did you get on any swims better than others on kingfisher lake there 8th of August for a week
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In reply to Post #818
yes mate there from 5th Aug to 14th. First night on wildbore then on Heron rest of it.
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In reply to Post #818
2 of us tried to book a week end Sep/Oct but was fully booked managed to get a week on Fox back end of November
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Anyone out there the first week in August?
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In reply to Post #816
Returned Matt.
Also might be worth messaging my mate DEKAY on here he’s a good lad and will help you out
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In reply to Post #815
I’ve sent you a PM mate
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In reply to Post #814
You will love it mate.
My mate caught a few from Kingfisher last week and another mate is on Heron as I type this .
They are on the feed.
Enjoy 😉
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In reply to Post #813
Has anyone been over since Lockdown has eased? Ive done a last minute Booking and going on kingfisher this Tuesday for 3 nights, my first trip to abbey and looking forward to it 👍🏻
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In reply to Post #812
Ring Evelyne @ Abbey mate .
She’s snowed under and having to deliver options set out by Seb .
He’s changed his stance ( as published ) of 50% now and 50% in September .
Good luck it’s a fecking mine field
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In reply to Post #811
Hi there
1 week this thursday i am meant to be at abbey and had no contact from abbey regarding the trip so far.
i am more then happy to change dates and then i can change tunnel booking and not lose the money i have paid.
so i wondered did they contact you as promised or did you contact them.
i sent e-mail last week for details but no reply yet.
thanks.
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In reply to Post #810
It's called sessions mate its basically the same in the uk and France
A chance you take
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Were you not due out in May this year too? How do you know what the weather will be a year in advance for next May?
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In reply to Post #808
Well update time
Spoke to abbey very disappointed in the way they have dealt with this
Been given another date that we cant do due to other commitments
The 15th -22nd may 2021 which is basically spawning time,so they are happy for us to sit behind motionless rods watching them spawn and take our money regardless and as we can't do that date they are keeping our deposit
Thought abbey had a good name ... not the case now
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In reply to Post #807
Yeah I saw that on the heron video comments.
Wrong though they cant back track on what they say...
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In reply to Post #806
Conflicting reports on their FB page.
Looks like they are not honouring their previous statement about a 50% now and 50% in September.
Various posts about them keeping your 30% deposit .
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Anyone else had there call yet
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2 of my mates swapped there March trip to November. There must have been availability for when they wanted to get the swap then.
Makes sense if there isn’t availability.
My info is from mates so yours is more than likely now correct. They were due out opening week.
Either way a good move to refund.
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In reply to Post #803
That's what I last I heard and read 50% now and 50% in September
So full refund
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In reply to Post #802
Where did you read that Dale .
Are they not refunding 50% then 50% in September.
I didn’t think they could offer alternative weeks as they are heavily booked already .
I might of missed your information on FB.
Cheers
Mark
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In reply to Post #799
Money minus deposit back or swap for a different available week.
Very fair.
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In reply to Post #800
Yeah I read that I just wondered if anyone has had the call yet 
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In reply to Post #799
They put a post on face ache explaining what they are doing
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In reply to Post #798
Has anyone had there phone call from abby yet to cancel there trip????
If so how dose it work ????
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In reply to Post #797
Well I've just managed to cancel my Eurostar
Due to go to abbey (attila) may 2nd
I have two in my party over 70 and one with type two diabetes, and even if we do get to go I dont think it's worth the risk.
I would imagine the travel ban will be in force for a while anyway.
I Phoned up explained to Eurostar and they said I would receive my full refund within 3 to 4 days.
Just waiting for abbey to contact me,mid April for a refund too
As they have stated 50%now and 50% in September
Gutted but tight lines to all
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In reply to Post #795
Can't beat that early Alarm call first thing in the morning on Kingy Peg 5/6 its like a jet 
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In reply to Post #794
I'm fishing attila in may, my first time in France and booked lake exclusive for 6 of us and cant wait.
Theres a few videos on utube but not many of either kingy or attila its mainly heron or fox as there supposed to be the big fish waters ???
I've been searching
Ip 100 is a wealth of info as I've picked his brains a few times dave the abbey bailiff is very helpful and if you email him he will normally reply within 24hrs
Hope this helps fella
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In reply to Post #794
Don't think there's a great number of vids for kingy mate as it's not really been a carp orientated water for that long. Kev Ellis did one but thats the only one I've seen. It's quite deep, very weedy but apparently fishes well for the carp these days. Fished it twice myself but the last time was about 12 years ago and just for the cats. The end nearer to the other lakes is the shallower end..
The train line runs right behind it and its bloody loud, and once the sun goes down the frogs start, and they will do your head in for the first night or 2 until you get used to them
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In reply to Post #793
I've been trying to get up to speed with abbey before a trip there later this year.
Any links for good youtube videos to watch for Kingfisher lake please?
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In reply to Post #792
Thank you, much appreciated..
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In reply to Post #791
The end closest to kingfisher is the deeper end, the far end much shallower. Avoid pellets as there are crays in there, take hardened hookbaits as there are hoards of roach. There are tree stumps and mussels so strong leaders are a must. Keep it simple. I fished the shallower end and the fish didn't like it when spodding, killed it for a day or 2. Bait boats, or catty/stick loose baits out. Use big hookbaits as there is a fair head of small tench and bream too
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Ok now I am all booked to go to Wildboar at abbey lakes for a 5 day session. There is 3 of us going in spring. I am asking for any info regarding best swims, where to fish, rigs, bait methods etc. After as much info / help as possible as this is our first time. Cant wait
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In reply to Post #788
And they've all gone.
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In reply to Post #788
Winter tickets are £500 from mid November till mid March
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How much are and when do the winter tickets run?
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In reply to Post #786
Thanks again great bit of info
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In reply to Post #785
You have to email Evelyne on the Abbey email address and she will let you know if there is availability for the dates you require ( be aware the lakes are getting booked up well in advance)
You then turn up at the complex on the date you have booked and take your chances on what swims are left.
First come first served basis .
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In reply to Post #784
Thanks again for the valued information. Whilst I am on what is the set up at Abbey. We are looking to book wild boar in June 2020. There will be three of us. I was wondering who would be best to converse with reference to arrival, peg allocation etc all prior to the business of fishing, has anyone got any signposts re you tube, vids etc. What tactics to use as a first timer, thanks in anticipation,
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In reply to Post #782
No probs mate. Seb will tell you there are no crays in wild boar but trust me, they are there in droves.
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In reply to Post #781
Sound advice from Ian.
I normally fish Heron or Fox booked on Kingfisher I’m May
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In reply to Post #780
thank you
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In reply to Post #779
Avoid pellets due to the crayfish, fish the shallower end of the lake in the hot weather, use a strong line and leader as there are some nasty snags in there, hardened hookbaits will help as the roach will whittle normal baits down if the crays don't get to them first. Bait boat loads of particle and boilie dropped in open water got a lot of quick bites when I did it. It's a very easy lake tbh.
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In reply to Post #779
Plenty of fish in Wildbore also worth considering fishing Frog lake if it’s free.
Dave the bailiff will point you in the right direction .
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In reply to Post #778
Hello,
I am new to the forum so If I make any silly mistakes my sincere apologies. I am also newish to Carp Fishing, however been coarse/sea fishing since a very young age. I am looking to go to Abbey Lakes next year around June for a monday to Friday session with two others and looking to go on WILD BOAR. Anyone can provide any advice it would be really welcome... Thanks
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In reply to Post #777
Welcome mate plenty of info on attia on here I'm out the for the first time in may 2nd
Cant wait lots to plan lots to buy 
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hi guys I'm new to the forum  are any of you chaps fishing Attila at the moment..
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In reply to Post #774
Thanx great info
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In reply to Post #773
Thanx great help
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In reply to Post #772
Train is easiest. 30 mins crossing. just over £100 in a van each way.
Tolls are £16 each way.
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In reply to Post #772
Tolls are something like €18 each way. Ferry or tunnel, you choose. Personally I use the ferry as I like to get out on deck for a bit and stretch my legs.
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Can anyone give me a little advice plz planning my first trip to abbey lakes. What I'd like to know is none fishing cost,
What's best euro train or boat ferry?
What's the cost of motorway tolls
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In reply to Post #770
Cheers fella
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In reply to Post #769
They get caught all over mate. Just speak with Dave when you get there, he'll put you right.
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In reply to Post #763
Cheers mate theres 6 of us going on attia so with 9 swims we have the option to move about.
Any prolific swims I should be aiming for????
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In reply to Post #767
I was on peg 10 when i called you. That was the same crew on pegs 9&10 that told me both pegs were reserved. And you agreed on the phone. Of you knew it, why you said i could choose any THINGS exept the closed peg 4 during the check’in.
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In reply to Post #766
like i just tried to explain the guy that moved on to peg 9 on saturday morning had already been here for 3 days so surly that gives him first choice? as for peg 10 there is no one in there? im sure you will find that is how it has always been here please correct me if i'm wrong
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In reply to Post #765
The Guy on 9 was leaving ! He told me i can’t take it since its reserved. Same thing happened on 10. Then I called you and you told me the same. My english is bad but Enough good to understand than you didnt respect your own rules. I was the first on both and couldn’t fish on it. That’s all
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In reply to Post #756
you was'nt ejected by the bailiff!!!! swim 9 had been reserved by a guy that had already been fishing here for 3 days i think you find that fair and how it has always been so get your facts right!!
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In reply to Post #759
just to clear this up there is no reserving swims for friends or famous anglers and anybody that knows me will know that i run it here as fair as i possibly can,the rule is once you are checked in and on the complex then you are able to reserve a swim you are only allowed on the complex if there is an available swim that you have paid for which i think is fair!
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In reply to Post #762
Spread yourselves out, if you leave an unfished area the fish will soon know.
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In reply to Post #750
Looks like peg 9 commands a lot of water
I've booked attia ( lake exclusive for my party of 6)
So shouldn't have any problems with swims ect
Seems a bit dry of updates on there Facebook page
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In reply to Post #757
never really fancied 6 as a swim 18 is awesome fishing the channels in the weed.......you'd think the weed would would be sufficient warmth and protection rather than travel into deeper water but then its deep over by the corner of 16 it was always a good winter spot
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In reply to Post #758
I didnt know too. When I booked, the person told me its impossible via e-mail...
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In reply to Post #758
I'm hearing this more and more that swims are being reserved for either friends or famous anglers? Its a day ticket venue first come first served basis. i'll be honest i don't think Sebastian would be too pleased, i know he's already raised an eyebrow over some of the emails/reports he's received. i don't really get to see a lot that goes on mainly because i'm only there for a couple of days at a time and miss arrivals and departs as i use it as a stop over but i hear a lot more unhappy reports than i ever used to and its a great shame
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In reply to Post #756
I didn’t know you could reserve swims at Abbey , seems to be a few changes happening .
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In reply to Post #756
We were there a couple of weeks ago. pegs 6 7 8 9 18 19 could all get near where the fish turned up most days, under the pylons. They were in deep water at night 14 and then when it warmed up in the afternoons turned up in front of us most days.
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In reply to Post #755
We will see, 19 is taken
I was the first on pegs 9 and 10 but got ejected by the bailiff saying « those pegs are booked »... a real back Stab after mailing me « first arrive, first choice » at the payment...
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In reply to Post #754
as far as i know swim 12 now has a maximum of 60 yards out, Dave the bailiff was very quick to point this out to me when i was there in late august early September the spot at 80-85 yards is old banker spot your about 10-15 yards short of being level for the point opposite swim ten there is a hole iirc its almost 3 metres deep , around it is 2-2 1/2 meters the fish make a beeline for it when they move in or out of the bay that holds swims 13 and 14 like the Deekay says you'll know when their in there, but i do find they spook easy... there are a couple of clear spots close but the weed is starting to detach this time of year so these may be harder to find
i fished this time of the year a few times there and found the little swim on the side of 19 looking down to swim one to hold a lot of fish there is a big gully 3 rod lengths out and then it shallows to the weed i've had two good sessions in there this time of the year in the past
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In reply to Post #752
Thanks !!! Well at the moment i dont see any activity, on the whole lake
Looking on the Map with gps measurement, 85yard is still on my swim ! Am I mistaking ?
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In reply to Post #751
If they are in there then you can't miss them, if they aren't, go elsewhere.
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In reply to Post #751
not the swim it was now its been restricted to 60yards, but stand on the pallet in the front of the swim look at 90 degrees and you should see a overhanging tree into the water (cant miss it most of the lower foliage is missing where it's been cast at a million times) you need to be under the overhang
if no one is in 10 then at 85 yards directly to the pilon just to the right of the island is a hole i had 5 fish out of that last year just don't get caught casting there
then there is a bag hanging in the tree to right about 45 degrees just find the gravel there those are the spots i fish when there
Best of luck
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In reply to Post #750
Hello, any tips for the peg 12 on heron ?
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In reply to Post #749
Peg 9 did a load of fish last week. 20 odd I think.
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Any more updates on abby especially attia????
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In reply to Post #746
Had one for 6 years till last year which was a big disappointment, made some great friends and most people where regulars every winter, it was a good atmosphere, i don't know how it will pan out this year as all the winter tickets where sold off a waiting list before a lot of us had a chance to buy them, a large group of us have been invited to a winter ticket on a well known dutch lake by one of the old winter ticket regulars so looking forward to that this year.
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In reply to Post #745
Thanks ip
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I’ve got a winter ticket for this year, anyone else fished it in the winter ?
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In reply to Post #744
Yes mate there are, about 18 euro each way if I remember correctly. You can do either cash or card, although my mates card would work on them mine did
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Can anyone tell me if there are toll roads on the way to abby and if so ruffly how much ?? Cash/card????
Thanks
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At least the post on facebook clears up any confusion about boats 
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Just returned from abbey boats on kingy r still in use stil plenty of cats they will be impossible to ever remove them all as I got done numerous times by them weed is still bad in places but it’s what they live in I fished in the weed and did well the carp will prosper no question kingy was fishing well when I was there 3 weeks ago rats were of no issue complex was very quite due to the heat I think but fish were still coming out complex is still relaxed nobody on ya back when fishing cats r being put in a lake called hook I’m think and won’t be fished for but sold on at some point . I believe u will always be able to target cats in kingfisher no matter how much they remove certainly for the next year or 2.
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In reply to Post #739
i think there is a lake behind fox that they would go into the railway lakes are Jurassic and full of good stock fish it would be almost impossible to get them out again, i also don't think they have scratched the surface with removing the cats from kingy iv'e known two different fish over 160lb that haven't been landed yet to be removed so keep your cat gear for a while yet
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In reply to Post #738
I got a feeling this is a selective rule spoke to a mate that was there end of June and he had a guy moaning in the next swim as he was told boats was banned but two dutch guys where using their boats and nothing was said ??? i went there for two days at the end of may on my way to Rainbow i always have a boat in the van but can't be arsed to pump it up for a couple of days
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In reply to Post #737
Yeah no doubt they are going into their other lakes the other side of the railway. Real shame though. Its not like the carp weren't doing well in kingy anyway. I was going to back for a go at them in the spring but not now. I will have a go for the carp on one of the lakes next year, but was going to carp fish kingy during the day and for the cats at night. Can't see boats being banned though, some areas of kingy will be nigh on impossible to land them without going out, the weed can be horrendous. Thick right upto the surface in 30ft plus depths. I've wound in 6ft balls of the stuff on many occasions without a fish attached so can't see how you'd land much in that from the bank
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In reply to Post #736
I was there in May and people were using boats then.
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In reply to Post #731
i've no doubt Dave will have a plan for the cats i can't see them throwing them in the river they've probably been moved to one of the many lakes Sebastian owns and they are a commodity of sorts
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In reply to Post #735
yep the horses mouth, it was Dave the bailiff telling a group of anglers that boats were now banned when i was checking in in may, unless he's had another rule change of course, i'll find out in a couple of weeks i'll ask the question to see if the rule has been rescinded, dunno about Ru but i do remember fishing next to Ian Russel on fox and over a early morning coffee he was clear that although he didn't pay for his trips out there the rules where clear that he had to slot in around paying anglers, swim 12 Heron was closed a lot and unless Ru thought you was a capable angler (weather you was or not) it was often kept shut, i fished for two years there before he would allow me to fish it and you had to have a boat for fish retrieve, and often see other anglers go in there not just famous ones
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In reply to Post #730
Don't know where you're getting your info from mate but id check it out first before posting.
From the horses mouth........ boats are still allowed, same as before, not for baiting up with etc but 100% not banned.
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In reply to Post #732
I guess there's no pleasing everyone all of the time mate. I will go again for sure. I actually preferred it last year than the last time I was there some 12 or so years back.
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In reply to Post #729
Re the swims being held for well known anglers. This happened to us a few years ago when Ru wouldn't let anyone fish peg 12 on Heron because of the weed. Ian Macmillan turns up and goes straight in there .
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don't get me wrong i love the place and i'm normally out there 3 or 4 times a year mostly i use it as a stopover when im traveling much further south and only do a couple of days either on the way out or way back, i did read on another forum last year about the rats on Attila and a guy catching weils but i put that down to a one off, another report was about how a guy got lumped with a bill for two anglers that had left, he met them at the ferry and followed them down the bailiff assumed they was all together the two guys left the day before and he got a bill for over 300 euros.. ...i been going to abbey for about 15 years i have noticed on the odd occasion an atmosphere when ive been to the club house to collect charging items or food from the freezer, there doesn't seem to be that customer bailiff banter that was always there... as i keep myself to myself and always travel alone it doesn't really affect me i go for the fishing nothing else but like i say when ever abbey is brought up in conversation of late i seem to hear a lot more moans about the place than i ever have
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In reply to Post #729
That's odd. Was over there last year and saw one rat the whole week, didn't hear anyone else complain either. Personally I think it's a well run complex from what I've seen. Only negative for me is they are now removing the cats from kingfisher. Did he say what rules where changing? Only thing that was mentioned whilst I was there was to keep the fish in the water as it was in the middle of the heatwave last August. Not a problem at all. Went in with all 23 fish I had, plus a swim most days
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In reply to Post #697
only bait boats now. from what i can remember from my may trip to many people baiting from boats so they are now prohibited
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In reply to Post #728
spoke to a group that had been on attila early in the year who where overrun with rat's two pf the group contracted weils disease after their visit both had been in the water with fish
Another guy on my local syndicate said he had a rule change every day more or less and has been going since Hans was the bailiff and is not going back, then last week i was waiting for the train after a trip to new dutch owned lake, two guys said the top part of their lake was closed for two days and they wasn't allowed to fish it or near it when on the third day a well known angler turned up, didn't look around and went straight into the swim where the fish had been held up, like i said my trips there have been ok but these are just a couple of examples of some of the mixed reports i'm hearing
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In reply to Post #727
Like?
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Not quite sure What's going on at abbey at the moment although my experiences are ok,Im hearing some very mixed experiences and views on the complex
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In reply to Post #725
Is anyone on abbey at the moment who’s on here can give a tru update of how it’s doing Facebook page very limited had email from bailiff not saying a lot at all really I’m making my way there tomorrow
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In reply to Post #724
Can’t even give holiday away 
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5 days on atilla lake for free July 8th -12th my mate has pulled out so I’m goin alone which is **** to France but hey ho so if anyone fancies it PM me and u got a free 5 days if u like a couple ales and bit of a laugh it’s there obv pay own ferry travel. Cheers.
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In reply to Post #722
 No mate no connection or privileges here. Yes i think Seb would say anything to make a few ££.
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In reply to Post #721
I guess so, just thought you might be in with them seeing as you seem to know a bit about it. I know dave is sound so he'd probably give good info, more so than seb when he told me there are no crays in wild boar  . Lake is riddled with the things
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In reply to Post #720
no idea, I was over there in may when Dave told me all about the removal, id guess that if you email Abbey asking where and when they can be fished for they'd soon put you right.
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In reply to Post #719
Any idea what the biggest they have removed is? I must have been unlucky with them, they used to say the average was about 80-95lb but in the 10 I had from there the biggest was only mid 60s
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In reply to Post #718
yes i think so.
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In reply to Post #717
Fair enough, shame for those people who had their holidays messed up for them though. Are they going into another lake that they can be fished for?
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In reply to Post #716
yes people, mostly German/dutch booked it to fish for the cats,, but now that they are being removed bookings have gone through the roof because people know the potential that it has once the carp get to eat all the bait that goes in there. There were a couple of people who'd booked who wanted there money back but that was nothing compared to the increase from people wanting to get on there once the cats were gone.
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In reply to Post #715
I wonder how many people booked it to fish for the cats and now have to put up with them being removed?
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In reply to Post #714
I'm booked on for next year and I was looking forward to catching some big cats if I could...
Will have to make do with the carp then!
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In reply to Post #713
Kingfisher was a catfish lake when I fished it... It was always known as the cat lake. Its always done decent carp too. There's plenty of 50s and 60s come out of there so it's done the carp no harm imo
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In reply to Post #712
It doesn't do the carp any favours, of course it doesn't effect the catfish growth. Most carp anglers don't want to be catching kittens either when the bloody things breed. If you want to catch cats fish a lake catfish lake or the Ebro.
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In reply to Post #711
Cats in a carp lake don't work? Hasn't done them any harm in there so far. Plenty of big fish coming out. Real shame they are removing the cats, was considering another go for them myself next year.
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In reply to Post #709
Thats the plan. They have plenty of other lakes and they are going into one of these. Watch the weights of these KIngy carp fly now that they get to eat all the boilies that go in there. Catfish in a carp lake doesn't work.
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In reply to Post #709
Be a shame if they are, it's awesome seeing them hitting bait fish on summer evenings. Be some job removing them all, there are plenty in there. I know a few have found their way into wild boar which they are trying to get out
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Just seen a post saying cat fish removal going well in kingfisher are they getting rid of all the cats
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In reply to Post #707
Ye noted. We will see what happens.
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In reply to Post #706
Never have, but they are were ravenous on there last summer apparently. I was on wild boar and was told there weren't any, and my mate was getting hammered by them by the second day, I managed to go 4 days before they found my spots. The lads who were on atilla were moaning about them, and a couple of Dutch lads had problems when they fished it earlier last year. Sounds like they are on all lakes there now
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What on atilla. Never suffered on other waters ?? When was last time u fished Attila
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In reply to Post #704
Make sure you take plenty of hard hookbaits etc, the crays can be horrendous at times
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Ye I will update. July 8th. I’m there.
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In reply to Post #702
It's definitely no runs water these days, even wild boar lake can be moody at times. Wasn't much coming out from atilla when I was there last year, the lads on it seemed more intent on getting hammered than catching though tbh
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In reply to Post #701
Will be interested to hear how you get on. My mate has booked it thinking it is a runs water, I'm getting the impression thats not the case now either. Hopefully you fill yer boots and give us something to look forward to!
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It used to years ago pretty sure that’s slowly changed I always fished Fox but fancied atilla but I been looking on Facebook page and like u say not much on there lately from atilla.
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In reply to Post #699
You never hear much from Atilla.. we're out in October and have no idea what to expect. Does it do many fish?
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Any atilla updates. 3 weeks to push till I’m there 🎣🎣🎣
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In reply to Post #697
That's always been the rules, but both times I fished kingfisher we were left alone to do whatever and used the boats to drop rigs although it was over 10 years ago. I fished another lake on there last year and there were a couple of Dutch lads on kingfisher fishing for cats using boats to set up tie up livebait rigs. There are boats on site to use, think you have to put a deposit down for one.
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In reply to Post #696
I've got a session booked on Kingfisher late next year (already getting excited!)
A couple of questions re boats (assuming the rules don't change....)
Are you allowed to bait up and drop rigs from boats? Rules seem to indicate not allowed, but there are some videos on youtube showing rigs being taken out and dropped.
Are there boats there to use or would I need to take mine with me? I've got a porta-bote so could put it on the roof at the expense of a roof box.
Thanks
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In reply to Post #690
Keep us posted mate good luck materclass
Any info on swims depths bait tactics pictures would be helpful
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Theres a few pics on Facebook from abby
Some nice lumps coming out from all lakes including attilla
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Anyone been out there this year yet ?
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In reply to Post #690
I fished fox, throwing stick and 2 or 3 rods onto a big baited area worked well for me and my mate in an open water swims if you dont wanna use a spod
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In reply to Post #690
No, like I said I've never fished atilla
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In reply to Post #690
Good luck mate ive got a while yet
Keep me updated fella
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In reply to Post #687
Any more info on attila I’m out there in April
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In reply to Post #688
Not sure on that one, but on wild boar it killed it when I used a spod. Using single boat loads was the way to go. Every time we used a spod that spot would dry up for a couple of days. With the boat I had a couple of runs before I'd even got the boat back to the bank. I'd be wary of pellets, the crays in there can be horrendous, and apparently the one we fished was the one with least crays in.
I'd say 20kg of boilie would be plenty, and is take another 20 of particle too. Take a load of it dry and prep it there if needed.
They do hire bait boats out if you want one
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In reply to Post #687
Thanks ip
Im thinking about taking 20kg boilies
Plus some particles and pellets with me will that be enough ??
Don't have a bait boat so I'll be spoding do they react to spods ?
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In reply to Post #686
I spoke to some lads who were on atilla while I was there this summer, and they were fishing exactly as you would over here other than using hard hook baits. They were doing quite well considering it was the middle of the heatwave and knocking towards 40 degrees some days. Steve the bailiff did advise me to use mainline bait while I was out there as that's what they sell, but I used my own rolled baits and had more on the lake I was on than the other 5 on there combined so don't think all that expensive, low grade gear is necessary
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In reply to Post #685
Thanks fella got a while to wait but the more info i can get the better i am prepared
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In reply to Post #684
Haven't fished atilla myself, but the complex sees all sorts of baits so take whatever you are confident with. Lots of crays on the complex so make sure you take plenty of hardened baits, and mesh too. I'd avoid too many pellets but cause of the crays too. Bit of particle is worth taking
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Im fishing attilla in march 2020 yes i know its way way off lol but has anyone fished it any tips
First time abroad
How much bait
What bait
Lake info ect
Thanks guys
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In reply to Post #682
Nice one  
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In reply to Post #681
Good luck lads.... I managed to sneak out a 44lb and 30lb mirror losing a much better fish as well
Not too shabby for 4 days in NNE winds
Tight lines
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In reply to Post #680
17th
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In reply to Post #679
Going 8th
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In reply to Post #678
I'm down mid Nov again, might see you down there.
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In reply to Post #677
On heron second week of November done well last year same week not a lot of help to those struggling, if it is slow stay up they show at night and move if you can.
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In reply to Post #676
Funny old place Heron, can be very moody. Shame its rammed.
Like Fox, the carp do react to disturbance and will find the more quieter areas.
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In reply to Post #675
All solid here mate nothing free really.
Very slow across whole lake nothing out
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In reply to Post #674
There is a gulley and a couple of bars that run from about 3 rod lengths off the Island back towards the point at 19 that are worth finding.
Edit: Is there many on and if not, what pegs are still available?
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In reply to Post #673
Nobody???
Ok here now.....blanking royally as per usual on Heron. My mate Lee has had a grassie from 9 44lb but now all quiet.
Tips for swim 8 would be hugely appreciated.
🐳🐳🐳
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In reply to Post #672
Ditto.....also off too Heron end of the month
Come on lads spill the beans on any hints or tips please.
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I’m going over to fish Heron in a couple of weeks time, any ideas as to how it’s fishing?
Are there any specific areas the fish hold up in at this time of year?
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Strangely quiet here this week, only about 15-20 people on the whole complex. Kingfisher and frog have nobody on at all
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In reply to Post #669
Going friday
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In reply to Post #666
Whilst I don't have anything to do with the complex other than the occasional catch up call and annual visit anymore, I can categorically state that there are NO fish movements between the lakes on the complex..
The lakes are being stocked with a handful of fish from the other lakes belonging to the family in the area. The same way that the complex was originally stocked in the beginning!
With regards to Dave, give the man a chance. He came in with less than a week's notice to open the season on time for Seb (and that included moving country in that time too)!
He's a bloody nice bloke with a great track record at another well known complex in France, he just needs to find his feet ffs.. After doing the same job for a few years I can tell you it took me 2 solid winters (8 months) of walking the site with a marker rod, pen and paper to do the original maps to aid everyone visiting and even then there was no guarantee they'd be correct once the weed came up!
I'm also certain that once he's got his daily workload into some semblance of order, he'll make a start on clearing the waters one by one. I'm here now and I've seen both he and his Mrs walking about with a bin liner on more than one occasion.
As for Attila not being a 'runs' water, you may be correct in the true definition but it offers a far better chance of a 20+ fish week than the others on site, so by Abbey standards it is. None of these lakes are to be considered bagging waters, that is half the appeal to most of their repeat anglers. The rewards ARE there if you approach the lakes correctly though.... As will be the failures if the weather is off, the fish have just had a feeding spell and/or they took a bit of a hiding the week before, I'm afraid. I'm fishing my bits off at the mo. I'm as keen as I've been for years, I've got every conceivable gadget (plus some 5yr old maps) and the blokes in my swim have rinsed it dry for the previous 2 weeks, Dave had 8 the night before I arrived, yet even with all the tools at my disposal, I've struggled to reach the heady heights of 4 and a loss in 48hrs. Despite the fact I've got nearly every fish in the lake held up between myself and the peg opposite (who's blanking)
C'est la vie....
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In reply to Post #666
To be fair the website does say from 8am? Think the bailiff is new too as when I booked last year to go this year his name was Steve, its now a guy called dave so that would explain why he wasn't overly clued up as yet and also why you were told mail nearer the time. Litter etc isnt on though, hopefully they have a clear up before we go later this year. Weren't any toilets other than the main block last time I went so that's an improvement
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In reply to Post #665
hi guys
so I thought I would give a bit of info on abbey lakes and its with mixed feelings I wright this as abbey regulars will be im sure disappointed but feel people should at least know a little more than whats being said/told.
well weve been to the complex on a few occasions now and fished all the lakes on the complex bar frog lake and caught fish from all that weve fished. we have really enjoyed previous occasions but after our last trip there this year it will sadly be our last time to the complex.
we decided we would fish attilla this time around and I opted to try find out some info which was tricky as there doesn't seem to be too much on the lake, I emailed abbey which I had done before on previous occasions and had received great info and feedback, but this time round I was told "email closer to the time"(may 2018), so I did this and was told "yeah theyre coming out all over", that was it, not really very helpful but hey ho.
so off we headed, now I also want to add that a few weeks ago abbey put a facebook post up about "not bothering to get to the lake before 10am as that's when you can start" or something along them lines (buckets or gear in the swims or something), well this isn't true, the office opens at 8am and once you've signed in you can then go to the lake, there were a lot of new guys who even asked the bailiff about the time thing to which he replied you've signed in now so now you can go fish. now come 10am when other people start turning up imagine there disappointment at the guys who have turned up early and got on early, these poor buggers are be palmed off in swims out the way or away from the fish as the early lot were let on, its a bit naughty really, so abbey need to put things right there its either 10am for everyone or 8am for everyone.
now on atilla you really see that they don't care as much about this lake and the smaller less known lakes other than fox and heron. fox and heron are clearly there main draw for the complex both lakes hold enormous fish but its like the other lakes are not bothered with now, for example fox and heron are littered in toilets for the punters whilst atilla's 1 toilet is still shared on the heron lake side but is miles away from all the other swims on there, if your in peg 9 on atilla then good luck, the back of wildboar doesn't have one either, fishing atilla peg 9 is full of poo in the bushes. also the swims are filthy on atilla, I filled up a bin liner of rubbish I collected in my peg in 30 mins it was grim.
when the bailiff walks around and you ask him any info on the swims ie features he may know of or anything but he replies "I don't know" its a little worrying (isn't that his job to learn and know the lakes on the complex??), some of the poor fellas were blanking, struggling, they've paid a lot of money travelled along way and need some help and all they get is "I don't know", its not really good I really felt for these guys and im not sure if the bailiff is really there for the better of the complex, he really upset a few of the lads fishing with the little help he gave and they admitted they wont be coming back to abbey either..
another thing which I didn't agree with is the bailiff turns up and says oh I think im gonna jump on and fish tonight, now maybe this is me but if a paying punter is fishing a lake and lets be honest most people go to france to catch a special fish, if the bailiff then catches said special fish then your chances to catch that again in the limited time you have there is slim to none, I really don't think a bailiff should be fishing a lake of paying punters but that's just me. maybe he should fish it when no one is on the lake, just an idea. then again maybe the current bailiff also needs to learn about the lakes on the complex he works and realise that not everyone is fishing fox or heron.
another thing is the website needs updating, advertising attilla as a runs water is a little misleading, atilla isn't a runs water guys, so many guys turn up there for a bend in the rod and runs, when in fact many people blanked or caught 1 or 2 fish in a so called stock of 450 carp (rumours of good upcoming carp being taken out of the other lakes on the complex to bulk stock levels in fox and heron did do the rounds) any answers on said rumors abbey? anyone have any pictures to prove said rumors? anyway maybe advertise wildboar or frog lake as a runs water might be better fitting. I just felt that people should know any info and I can only put my experiences and others on the same time across.
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In reply to Post #664
anybody been doing much on Attila at all? much been coming out?
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Anybody been recently am thinking of a week in September on wild boar does it get rammed as would like two swims together any info would be great
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In reply to Post #662
There are boats there already mate, or there were last time I went anyway. You wouldn't want to fish kingfisher without one, the weed can be horrendous
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In reply to Post #661
Did anyone fish kingfisher in the summer without a rowing boat last year?. We are booked in June but just passing through so will not have a rowing boat.
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In reply to Post #660
cook my particle there, not a bad shout, cheers mate.
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In reply to Post #659
Take your particle dry and cook it there
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Booked on to Heron next year and thinking ahead about the amount of bait to take. 1kg of boilies per rod per day, same 1kg per rod per day for particle/pellet. 12 of us travelling , saying we all take the same , gonna need a separate van just for the bait ! guessing cheaper to take it rather than buy it there but even so , with all the gear and bait , gonna be a heavy load. Any tips on taking bait etc much appreciated .
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Hello lads. I'm just wondering whether anyone would like a companion for a winter ticket this year. I live in the north west and can't drive. I'm in the Cheshire region. If there's anyone that's willing to give me a lift etc. I can pay towards petrol and give my company for the majority of the time kind regards Jack
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In reply to Post #656
No signs of spawning on fox yet
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Have they spawned or started spawning yet on fox lake?
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Fishing fox lake in June any tips on pegs?
What is the food package like?
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In reply to Post #653
Ok Ru thanks, I'm going on a Friday start so can I choose what swim is free and move without notice if people go on the Saturday do you know.
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In reply to Post #652
Hi mate,
Was out v.early in the year (late Jan, early Feb) but not been since.. Am DEFO going at the end of the month as I need to get some fresh imagery for the website, etc. now it's in full bloom again!
Not too sure on the state of play regards weed, etc.. but I pitstopped overnight prior to the world carp champs last September and was shocked (in a good way!) at the lack of weed on Fox, it was virtually non-existent.. Although the water clarity seemed to have suffered as a result of the sludge on the bottom!
Hazarding a guess, I'd say Heron will be it's usual 'orrible self on that front by now but there are always holes (and bigger) to find and this year's catch reports show that the fish are defo still catchable and eating a lot too, if the weights are anything to go by!!
Regards, Ru
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In reply to Post #651
Have you been over to abbey yet this year Ru any news on fox, weed etc, have the swims been made better than they were when you was last there 3 or 4 years ago out in 3 weeks.
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In reply to Post #649
Very much appreciated Ru, full of excitement now a week to go 🎣🎣🎣🎣
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In reply to Post #647
Loads of bait will probably be required in swims 1, 3, 5 (definitely!!), 6 and 9/10..
Take plenty of particle as opposed to too many boilies (Cats are lazy eaters)..
Spread your bait far'n'wide, do not just tip buckets over the side of a boat, a couple of spombs of hemp/corn and some boilies scattered with a throwing stick are far more preferable (Cats are lazy eaters)..
Don't go in heavy (and tight) with bait, Cats (are lazy eaters and) will guard areas of food until they're hungry again. Carp will not feed in these places!!!!
Try and keep disturbance to a minimum, the Kingfisher carp are used to people swanning about in boats but repeated casting can put them down for a few hours if it's done at the wrong time of day..
It is VERY weedy, your maximum casting range is likely to be about 95yds but the average range is somewhere between 45-65yds, so spool up with thick mono (20lb+) and use heavy fluoro leaders or relatively long (1.5m) lengths of leadcore to cope with that and the catfish!!
Don't neglect the margins, for the most part (swims 4 round to 9/10) they're about 5-7' deep within a rod-length of the bank, the Kingfisher carp love to come in close and a day or two of prebaiting with pellet and chopped boilie can produce if there appears to be a lot of cats out in the middle..
Make sure you've got bumper bags of pva nuggets, mozzie repellent and some ant powder (1-3 are particularly bad)..
Get there early and grab peg 5
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In reply to Post #648
Hi,
WildBoar is virtually weed-free, barring the central arm that connects the deep/shallow ends.. It's not a hard water by any stretch of the imagination but like all places, it can have an off week or two, so it's always worth approaching with caution!
I'm the best part of 3yrs out of touch with Abbey now but a boot-full of the freshest hemp and corn, plus a 10kg sack of quality boilie will stand you in good stead on there. There's no point piling it in to start with but anything from 10-25 spombs (or 1-2 bait boat loads) over each rod and I'd say you were up and running..
With regard to likely areas, I'd take a set of polaroids and have a scoot between 3-5, 8-9 and maybe 11-12 prior to unloading anything, it won't take long for you to work out whereabouts they are!
Please note that the area between 1 and 5 (at 45 degrees left and front of 5) is riddled with mussel-ridden tree stumps and roots, so an upgrade to thick mono and fluoro/1.5m leadcore leaders prior to your trip could prove advantageous?!
Aside from that, use whatever works for you in the UK (providing it's legal), with the exception of bigger hooks, 4's and preferably 2's would be my choice!!
Regards, Ru
PS There is a perfectly polite, friendly and helpful Bailiff available on the AbbeyLakes FB page nigh on 24/7, drop Steve a message on there for any up-to-the-minute info you require....
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Has anyone got any update for please on how to approach a week on wild boar lake please.have a week on it may 15 has anyone got some most appreciated advice/pointers thanks
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I'm fishing kingfisher lake in june and would love some advice from my fellow carpers, iv recently got back into carp fishing and blanking on this trip would ruin me lol
any tactics , bait tips etc would be so much help
thank you.
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Hi all,
My first day in forum so thanks to all for anticipated advice 👍
I have a week(15-19) booked on wild boar ,Abbey complex,it will be my first session outside the uk & would just like to know on the general plan of attack ,where what when etc,, what should I expect etc.
Just some general ideas please guys.
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In reply to Post #643
Great stuff Ru! My first trip starts tomorrow Humpy hunting.......any tips?
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In reply to Post #643
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In reply to Post #642
Afternoon all!
Just thought I'd drop you a quick message to let you know I'm going to be working for Abbey again and as of now, shall be responsible for the running of their social media/marketing and in the near future, the construction of a brand-new website. Unfortunately for me, the role is based in the UK this time around but I'm hoping to get across the channel on a little and often basis to build a fresh image portfolio.... and have a dangle too, obviously!
On that note, Seb and I have been looking at some set dates where I can best capture the seasonal mood of the complex with film/video and we're going to fix some dates for the coming Spring (May), Summer (July), Autumn (September) and Winter (November) to do this. I will be at the fishery for a full 7 days for these times and was wondering whether there'd be any interest from you guys in booking a guided-week with me, instead of just turning up and fending for yourselves?
We've not settled on a format as yet but essentially I'd be spending a couple of hours a day with each of you to try and ensure you're fishing not necessarily to the best of your ability but to suit the particular water you're on! I will also help you make the most of the swim you're in, with tips on feature-finding, baiting strategies and rigs. For those that are interested, I may even throw in a little camera tuition to help you get the best trophy shot(s) and/or scenics too...?
I will also be taking some short trips across throughout the warmer months and again in the depths of winter, so for those of you that can't make the set-dates, there may be other opportunities throughout the year, albeit with virtually zero notice, as they'll be based around my new job in the UK!
I hope the new year finds you all well anyway, I look forward to (some hopefully positive) feedback on the above and chatting with a few friendly faces and/or names through the course of the coming year....
Kind regards, Ru
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In reply to Post #641
Thanks iggy,
How much did u put in at the start of did u just go little and often ?
Also did u fish on the deck or pop ups for quick bites ? I have a week on there so I have time to build a swim ! The bait I was planning to take was a squid / krill fish meal boilie with massive leakage will this be ok ? Of is it just worth taking cell?
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In reply to Post #640
Attila is a cracking lake, mainline bait and particles work pretty well on there as that's what most people are putting in but tbh any decent freezer bait will work. I took a bait from a local company and had plenty out.
As for swim choice it's best to have a look around try and locate the fish 1st I was in peg 2 but most swims were also producing as well, there's a lot of hungry fish in there.
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In reply to Post #639
Hi guys,
This is my first post please be gentle,
I'm off to Attila lake for the last week of march for a week, where are the go to areas/ best baits to take? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Anyone fished wild boar in the last 12 months or so?
Only Heron and Wildboar available for the week I fancy and done heron a few times now,just fancy a change.....
Cheers guys.
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In reply to Post #637
Pm for you mate
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In reply to Post #114
Can anyone point me in the direction of swims 1-6 of Ru's Herons Swim Guide. I can only seem to find swims 7 to the end over a couple of different posts, but not 1-6.
Thanks
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In reply to Post #634
Oh right that's strange it might be coz I booked a bank holiday week then mate, well least it's sorted and I've got something to look forward to now
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In reply to Post #634
i've just booked the lake exclusively for July mate. they offered me plenty of availability??
interesting
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Rich I think your gonna need to b very lucky to get a full lake exclusive for either lake next year in the peak months, I've just booked 1st week of May and there was only a few places left on fox.
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In reply to Post #632
Fox lake exclusively or half of us heron and fox then switch... What would you do
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In reply to Post #631
Hi lads,
a group of our going to book a trip to abbey next year and not sure when to go. We are thinking either may or july. Can any regulars give us some direction on there preferences. Also some idea on when they spawn would be great
thanks
Richard
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In reply to Post #630
Jeez - looks like ill be taking my own then
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In reply to Post #628
Does anybody know what the bait price is at Abbey?
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In reply to Post #627
Thanks for that.... read the whole lot and took most of the day. Are waders required on Fox lake? I know you have to photo 50 lb fish in the water but I don't mind getting wet for a 50! Or are normal boots sufficient? How deep is it the margins?
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In reply to Post #626
Mate if you go back to the start of this tread there maybe enough info on the the lake your after if not do a search on here. It's a smashing lake with a fantastic amount of 40s in it , I fished 3 rods and done about 25kg boilie and about the same in particals ( caught my best 3 fish on maize) but some of the Dutch anglers I fished with done double that.
If you can find Rupert Whitemen (old bailiff ) Ru12 on here he has done a peg guide which I think you would be a fall to dismiss, I spodded but a lot of people use bait boats. For me the only downside was the frogs at night, some will say the train line but that never bothered me, the town is 5ish minutes away with a good supermarket. If it's not to busy you can move. I think I didn't fish more than 20 wraps but I will check my log book.
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Just booked Fox lake at the beginning of October. Any tips especially with the amount of bait required gratefully recieved! !
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In reply to Post #624
Hi, Heading off to Abbey lakes next Thursday, Fishing Wild Boar.
Anyone got any news on how the lake is fishing? any updates or info will be much appreciated.
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In reply to Post #623
That's not what happened this year in April, not allowed to put anything in swims you have to book in first and then Run
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In reply to Post #622
Just to let you know it's first come first serve. The last time I was there. We got there early hours of the morning and was waiting in the carpark and see people carrying buckets around the lakes and putting them in the swims that they wanted and that was in the dark!!!!!
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In reply to Post #618
Hi im off to abbey in june for the first time, im going on herons any tips and tactics would be appreciated
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In reply to Post #620
good to hear as i'm a spomber
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In reply to Post #619
Boats do not rule on abbey,caught plenty last year just spombing bait out.
Cant see the point using one on Atilla
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In reply to Post #618
Do bait boats rule on the lakes?
And is one needed on attila
thanks
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Just got back from heron 😁 start of the week was slow but it ended up being a productive trip (9 of us)a few a 50 a few 40s and 30s and loads of 20s and a couple of sturgeon and a special fish from fox but I will let abbey realese that 😜😜
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Anyone else going to abbey in November
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i was out there on heron last week, lucky enough to catch 3 carp as the fishing was slow, only 3 of us caught
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In reply to Post #614
Still a while till i go........november
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In reply to Post #613
I'm going to heron on the 25th can't wait
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In reply to Post #612
Cheers Simon
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In reply to Post #611
Peg 19 apparently
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In reply to Post #610
Aaron Peg 11?
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In reply to Post #609
Just to let anyone know that might be interested a friend of mine is out at Abby this week,
He texted me yesterday letting my know that shoulders came out the other day at 95lb!!!
Well done to who ever that was #fish of a lifetime!!
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In reply to Post #607
I went last September without one - lost 1 fish and caught 12 from heron. You definitely don't need a bloody boat!!!!
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In reply to Post #607
Can only speak if Heron but there isn't much at all. Few standard weed beds but it's the least weedy I've ever seen it.
They have had a bad winter over there and it was still cold when I was over last week.
I suppose if it gets really bad they will then allow them but for the time being there is no need for one what so ever.
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In reply to Post #606
whats the score regarding inflatable boats for weeded fish,says in rules not allowed.been in the past and everyone has them.whats the weed situation like at present
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In reply to Post #605
cheers Noodle, yes i have got all this advice from the facebook page ready. good tips too fairplay.
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In reply to Post #604
Go to ex bailiffs Rupert Whiteman FB page for a guide to swims on Abbey.they are in the notes section
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In reply to Post #602
If you want shoulders peg 11 
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In reply to Post #602
Anybody fished Wildboar recently, any catch reports from there ?
Not the lake that most even look at, but I know a few spend the odd night on there. Any info, gladly appreciated.
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In reply to Post #601
cheers for replies, on Heron lake for 7 days (11 of us there apparently) and first week fishing after the winter syndicate i think. word is the fish are starting to move about there atm.
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In reply to Post #599
What lake are you on, then we maybe able to help.
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In reply to Post #599
May sound obvious but stay mobile watch and watch more they show a lot and don't be afraid to give them some bait if your on them well that's the approach I took and had some good hits.
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In reply to Post #597
roll on next Friday ! first trip to the Abbey complex and quite excited, any tips for an Abbey virgin ;-)
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In reply to Post #597
Elad I'm with you! I'm out on the 27th of this month I hope this mild weather continues!
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I'm out there in 3 weeks for my annual march trip, hope the weather plays ball.
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In reply to Post #595
In reply to #593
I personally don't think 75kg is a lot if you are on the fish,done 20kg in a 48 hr session over here lol
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In reply to Post #594
I fish Heron july/august for the last couple of years and i mainly use boilies.
I add some pellet and hemp as well but wouldn't bother about any other small food.
I've had some good results as well using this method by the way.
Food wise you can order whatever you want on a daily basis.
Have to add that the old bailiff Rupert (love him) his left recently, but i spoke to the owners during the Zwolle show a few weeks back and it seems that not much will change regarding running the complex on a daily basis.
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In reply to Post #593
Booked on Heron in July...Could anyone tell me if you can buy food on demand.? And what can u buy particle wise Please ?
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In reply to Post #592
Are you going for a month mate!!! don't forget about the CATS in KIngfisher lake.
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In reply to Post #591
Is taking,say 75kg particle to kingfisher over doing it....bear in mind I will probably bait 4/5 spots
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In reply to Post #590
Hi guys anyone been to abbey lakes lately I'm going there next month for a few days first trip on fox slightly worried about that bait boat situation on there any advice on tactics?
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In reply to Post #589
UPDATE POST 580:
After a few e-mails to Abbey on Friday with regards to the new rule they are trying to put in place for this year they have now lifted the "not allowed to bring your own particle rule" until the start of 2016, so Happy days...
I stated its not on the web-site or in the Rule list, But apparently is was supposed to have been added to the website and rule list last year but was missed,going forward they will be reducing the price on particle but not by much !!
According to the e-mail I received they want to stop people bringing particle onto the complex
"to guarantee the quality of water and health of our fish,All our particles are fresh made and frozen straight away in order to keep all the nutrition and flavours"
So if you are booked on for 2016 be aware
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In reply to Post #585
Will it be the bucket of water in your face that you'll miss when your holding one !!!
In my humble opinion that is as stupid as it gets, and won't be missed.
And no, I haven't had a sense of humor bypass either before anyone says it.
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In reply to Post #585
Thats just silly mate. Iam good mates with Ru, but i went for the fishing, seeing Ru was a Bonus.
Was your main reason for going to fish or see Ru ?
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In reply to Post #586
I am relieved you can still take your own particles, I take hemp dry and cook it as I need it. Do the same in this country. Also take sweetcorn in tins as it stays fresh and you can open it as you need it. I am there in May and probably wont bother with boilie or pellet on Fox. Caught most fish last year on hemp n corn. Might take some maggot this year though
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In reply to Post #585
Agreed, he was a smashing guy. Hope everything is ok for him. Place won't be the same, but still awesome I'm sure.
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I went on Heron for 4 nights early august last summer.
I decided to take 20kg of boilies and 20kg of pellets (all Baitworks KingFish) and no particles what so ever.
Even though the lake was fishing very slow, i had 6 fish in 4 nights (up to low 40s) and was the only angler who caught fish together with Ian Russel.
I met the new bailiff last weekend in Zwolle by the way.
Seems like a nice bloke.
It will be hard to fill Rupert's boots though!
I absolutely loved the bloke and i'm still in doubt wether to go back to Abbey or not.
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In reply to Post #583
Be daft if they ban it. The rules on there are just the right balance at the minute, no need to change any of them.
The fish I had out there were immaculate so the rig rules seem to work, no one took the piss with the bait boats bar one bloke but nothing too bad. The atmosphere was quite relaxed ie no spying on you every 5 minutes- the way it should be.
If you're going to ban particle because of safety then just put a particle checking policy in place first. If for commercial gain then fair play but make them at least affordable when you get out there.
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In reply to Post #580
Where did you see the rule about not being allowed to take your own particles mate ?
I cannot find it on the website.
Update : from Abbey lakes via FB.
You can still take your own particles , this will be looked into this year
Thanks
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In reply to Post #581
Hi Scott, just pm you mate
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In reply to Post #580
That's b#####s
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In reply to Post #579
Just been informed that you can't take your own particle on to Abbey......New Rule as at this year
and they don't know what the price of there own particle will be as yet !!!!!................
9 Weeks to go
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In reply to Post #578
Taking me own
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In reply to Post #577
Cheers David1985 and tillyfishing1
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In reply to Post #576
Hi Freespirit, Me & my mate fished Kingfisher two years ago in April. for the first time. We fished swim 5 a double swim. I fished the left hand side & my mate fished the right hand side. it was only he's 2nd time fishing in France and the first night he landed a Cat fish of 167lb. took him 1&1/2 hours to land !!! we had a great week. how many are going with you mate? PM me if you want more information
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In reply to Post #575
There's a lot of cats in there so I would maybe use particles, not that that will stop them as they eat anything. I would normally say a decent fish meal bait but cats love fish meal so maybe not???
On heron though you want a quality fish meal I think, like Odyssey xxx, Malarkie or shrimp/liver shellfish from trent baits. Only been once but the guy in the peg the week before me fished cell and blanked all week - conditions were no different to when I was there so the bait might have had something to do with it - who knows though, he could have been using PVA hooks.
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In reply to Post #574
Thanks Denty and David1985
Im there from the 25th April till the 2nd May , we have booked the kingfisher lake.
can't believe they want to charge €12.50 for 2.5kg of particle !! I was told by Evelyne that they don't like people
to bring there own particle onto the complex.
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In reply to Post #572
I took 20kg of boilie and about 15 kg of hemp, maize and pellet. You are right the freezer space is quite tight. I wrapped mine up in 1kg bags, froze it and then took a kg out at a time from my car. I put 5kg of boilie in the freezer. By the end of the week the particle was quite wiffy that was left in the car but it lasted probably 5 days in those bags.
I didn't use anywhere near all of the bait I took. Brought probably 15kg of bait back but had 12 fish to 57lb from Heron lake. Amazing place
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In reply to Post #572
I took 25kg mate, depends when your going. The freezer is not always full, but that was when Rupert was there.
Took my own partical.
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In reply to Post #571
Hi Guys,
I'm off to Abbey Lakes End of April for the week,
What's the bait situation like, I hear only 5kg pp can be stored in the freezer as they only have
one freezer for the whole complex?
Has anyone taken there own particle with them or did you use the Abbey particle
thanks
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In reply to Post #570
Hi Daniel, if you go on Rupert Whitemens face book page he has a peg guide for Heron. Shame he's not there any more.
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In reply to Post #569
Hi i shall fish Heron lake in the middle of april, it`s my first trip there so any advice would be nice to have.
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In reply to Post #568
People start there trips at different times though so a hat would never work.
I'm going in March, Thursday - Monday, if you turned up on a Saturday then you take what's left.
I was under the impression you couldn't get on the lake until the bailiff opens up each day so the bucket in the swim the night before shouldn't be allowed and I would be having a word with the bailiff if I rocked up at 7am before it opens up and people starting the same time as me have already picked there swims.
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In reply to Post #567
That's the only thing that's stopping me from going back. It's a great place to fish. but if your fishing for a week and your in a group, how would you fill if there's people already fishing etc on your lake?
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In reply to Post #565
Cheers tilly, hopefully hat
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In reply to Post #565
Cheers tilly, hopefully hat
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In reply to Post #564
The only thing I don't like about Abbey lakes is, It's first come first serve. people where walking around the lakes at night and putting a bucket in the swim their wanted (night before their were fishing) so be aware first times
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In reply to Post #563
Well to be honest, kingfisher is as good as wildbore. Just the fish are much bigger.
Only trouble is, the time your going the cats will be just waking up.
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In reply to Post #562
Thanks Englishman. Im hoping the boy has a few and really has a great first French adventure, the first of many
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In reply to Post #559
Not really. They should be well spread out in April so you will be fine.
The New guy seems ok. Time will tell.
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In reply to Post #560
Unfortunately for us, Ru has moved on. I hope the Abbey management can fill his shoes with someone half as good.
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In reply to Post #556
What happened to Ru, always seemed to be a very helpful guy.
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In reply to Post #558
going in April, so they should be up and about, depending if the suns shining.
Any tips for Wildboar, areas to avoid ?
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In reply to Post #557
Wildbore is a cracking little lake and your Lad should do fine on there. Depending on the time of year of course.
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In reply to Post #536
anyone fish Wildboar recently ? Im planning on taking my son for a long weekend, its his first french trip and have heard that it is considered easy.
I dont want him struggling for one big fish so thought this lake would be a good start for him. He fishes on his own and can catch em.
Was just hoping for some recent experiences, problems with crays ?
Thank you.
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 Ru has left, the winter syndicate runs until the 14 March and then the normal system of selecting swims kicks into place. The fishing has been a bit slow over the last couple of weeks maybe down to not a lot of angler pressure
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In reply to Post #554
Has anyone fished Abbey lately ? I was told that Ru has departed .
What's the situation on choice of swim, is it still a free for all. Thanks
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In reply to Post #553
Hi all, managed a blank for 3 days which was very similar for everyone on Heron for last couple of weeks. There were a few out while I was there last week but not many. Most of the carp appeared to be held up in the weed in front of peg 12 in the corner.
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In reply to Post #551
how did you get on?
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In reply to Post #551
Below is a catch report from my recent trip to Abbey fishing Heron lake.
Heron Catch Report
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Roll on next Friday 3 of us booked onto Heron for a long weekend.
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Hi
I'm booked on to go Wild Boar for the week 22-27 sept! With my carp section within the royal engineers,British army. I see the scandanavians are smashing it up!
Please can anyone give me tips on bait,rigs tactics that may give me the edge.
I've never been and want to maximise my chances
Thankyou in advance
Gareth
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In reply to Post #547
You SHOULD have a blast, Chris! They'll be contemplating stocking up for Winter if we don't get some sort of Indian Summer under our belts in the next week or two and with that being the case, the Cats SHOULD have disappeared to settle down for the Winter too.... If that happens, your sesh on Kingy could be particularly well timed, cos the Carp feed like stockies for a month solid once they realise there's no competition for food!!
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In reply to Post #546
Aw, Pepe.. Don't be like that, poppet! I should've written 'read : ability wise and not on a friendship basis' in brackets to have made it slightly clearer as to why somebody maybe present in the swim, I have already turned down requests from one or two 'famous' (grrrr) faces, yet let one or two regulars fish in there over the course of the Summer....
Either way, you'd still be f****d
Rx
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In reply to Post #543
I've booked mate. See you on Heron on the 27th Sept - moving onto kingfisher on the 2 Oct for a couple of nights :D
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In reply to Post #544
(read : ability wise)
>>>>crosses 12 off my list for october 
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In reply to Post #544
Cheers for the update Ru. I'm gonna give u a call later this week mate anyway. See u the weekend.
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In reply to Post #543
Hi Guys,
Apologies for the radio silence in recent months but I did warn you I was going to be busy this season.. Even more so now that I've got a little nipper to contend with at home!
The whole complex is fishing pretty well right now, Heron has been a bit sketchy in recent weeks but I think that was more in part to a quiet period (booking wise) than anything else, past form suggests that both the main lakes actually fish better when there are enough Anglers on to keep the fish moving around, rather than giving them space to hold up in unpressured water!
The weed isn't too bad either, we had some concerns due to the very mild Winter but seeings as we've had no Summer to speak of either, it's not really bloomed to it's normal extent. Currently there are just 2 swims closed across all 5 lakes, those being 10+11 on Heron.... Please be aware that if I don't know you (read : ability wise), then there maybe a call at check-in, that I'm closing 12 too. It's more than fishable in the right hands but some of the weed is pretty savage in there right now, so unless I think you're capable enough and have all the right tools at your disposal (boat, lifejacket, glove, short net and spare unhooking mat) then I'll probably say it's shut for the week
The past week has seen Single Scale, The Unknown and one called Little Jack out at good Summer weights, the rest of the A team are pretty conspicuous by their absence but that can only be a good thing if they're going to achieve top, top weights on the run up to the end of the season!
Attila has produced an awful lot of 40's over the past month or so and one fish at 50lb+ The weed is spread far and wide in there but it's not especially thick or tall and there are still vast areas that are silky smooth.
Kingfisher has also been turning out big numbers of (upper) 40's and the odd 50 too, as well as a handful of LOST fish that would've set tongues wagging for sure. I'm one of the guilty parties that had tightened up the clutch one notch too many and watched in horror as a good 60 spat the hook on to tight a line!! There were also reports of a proper one lost from the point swim and as the guy in question was fishing here on the way back from a fortnight at Rainbow, where he'd had fish to 73, I'm not gonna be the doubting Thomas (he said it was in the same league!)
Fox is probably fishing more consistently than I've ever known it, there have been one or two slow spells but for the most part, it's producing somewhere between 5-20 fish per Angler each and every week of late! There are no weed issues here (touch wood), just the usual finger of silkweed extending out from 1/18 and the patchy stuff around the plateau infront of 12.. The fish are shoaling up in tighter groups than on Heron but they're moving from one end to the other regularly and feeding all the while
WildBoar is surprising a few people, not least of all, us! So far this season, we've had 18 different 40's reported and also 2 new 50lb+ fish in the past month, just last week, a young girl braced a 47.12 with another mirror of 50.11, not bad for her first trip abroad!!
If anyone really does need to reach me, it's far easier to send me a PM on Facebook as modern tech dictates that the scourge of the earth is hotwired on to my iPhone and I receive constant notifications and peeps whenever someone farts online! This is therefore far more likely to provoke a reaction from me when I'm doing the night-shift and am whiling away time on bottle duty!
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #533
Hi David,
We have a number of very limited spaces available on Heron and Kingfisher from the 20-27th September (2 on Heron, 1 on Kingy)
You can't book direct via the website, you need to get in touch with the office, either by phone (00 33 344 380 866) or email (info@abbeylakes.com) and Evelyne will handle the booking for you
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #541
Anyone been on lately?? Fishing a week on Heron early next month
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In reply to Post #540
well i took the cell and didnt catch on it, yet had more success on Premier Quad
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Yeah I understand that but if a preferred bait is going in day in day out wouldn't you take that?
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In reply to Post #538
Just use whatever bait you normally catch with at home.
Any decent bait will catch if put in the spot.
I see no need to change your bait just because your going to France.
Enjoy
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In reply to Post #537
Me too mate.
Thinking of taking some trent baits shrimp and some cell too.
Not been before so a bit uncharted for me.
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I'm going in September and unsure on bait I'm fishing heron and read they do like a fish meal but do a lot of people use cell on there?
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In reply to Post #535
Are you sure you've got the correct email address? They are usually pretty quick to reply
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In reply to Post #534
I'd phone, as i'm still waiting for e-mails to be answered
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In reply to Post #533
its best to email or phone Abbey for booking info.
Evelyne is very good at getting back to you.
contact details on the website
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In reply to Post #532
What are the chances of getting a ticket for a week end of September this year? Going on my own that is?
Do you book via the website?
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In reply to Post #531
Anyone heard anything from rupert need to speak to the man
Cheers knocker
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How's the weed doing on Heron? Can anybody give me a heads up?
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In reply to Post #529
Just got back on Friday fished peg 11 had one rod by the crayfish pot never really had a problem to be honest, I see the young frence bailiff emptying them from all the lakes and he must have a good few hundred,
Oh and with the rod by the pot I had a PB.
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In reply to Post #528
Are the crays still a problem on fox? What have people been doing to get round them plastic baits or just fish particle?
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In reply to Post #527
Just come back from a week on Fox. First 3 days a sudden heatwave didn't help with the fish having spawning on their minds. Still blanking on Tuesday (Arrived Saturday) then suddenly fish started to appear over the spots and then 3 fish in 3 hours, 31.4, 45 and 25. Cooler from Tuesday on seemed to help. Only 1 more fish from original swim 27.10 then moved to showing early morning fish on Thursday across other side of the lake. Thursday night 5 takes between 1am and 6am, landed 3 and Fri night 4 takes, same times landed 2. 8 of the 9 takes all from the same spot and all 5 fish landed between 22 and 29lb. All fish coming to small amounts of particle (half a boat about 1KG), bought 30KG of boiles and 30KG of pellet home. Fish were spawning Fri night. Generally quite hard work with long periods of inactivity and short bursts of intense feeding. Not as grim as Heron though, the fish spawned there early in the week and then laid up for the rest of the week and the boys on there had a really slow week.
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In reply to Post #526
Would like to hear aswell, arriving next saturday
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Hi Ru, do you have any update on the spawning at wild boar lake?
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In reply to Post #524
Cheers Gaz how did you get on in the end in Fox?
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In reply to Post #523
They were spawning in heron sat morn in peg 12 proper going for it .
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They must be close by now Ru?
ps Will you please keep us informed about boat usage by mid June.....don't want to pack mine unecessarily...cheers mate
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In reply to Post #520
Any update on abbey (heron) Rupert, have the fish started spawning yet? I'm out on the 25 may
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In reply to Post #520
Cheers Ru, hopefully ill have timed my trip just right then!
Cheers
dave
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In reply to Post #518
The fish have been feeding hard all over the Complex for what seems like ages now, that's always a sign they're on the run up to it. For at least 3wks, there have been reports of fish shoaling up, 'chasing' and even the odd one of fish crashing about in the shallower margins too but they certainly haven't started spawning properly!
The water is currently between 12.5°C and 14°ish around the edges, although the recent temperatures aren't helping knock it past the 17-20°C that's needed!
Even with the cooler weather, I'd guess that spawning'll occur sometime in the next fortnight to three weeks..
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In reply to Post #517
Hi Mitch,
Yep, there are a couple but there are also a handful of single pegs that are situated very close to each other, so you can still fish as a 'pair' if needs be
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In reply to Post #517
Hi Ru,
Any signs of the fish shoaling up for spawning yet? Over end of June so hope that they have got it out of their system on Attila by then!
Cheers
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In reply to Post #516
Hi lads is there any double pegs on wild boar
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In reply to Post #514
Eh up ru! Yeah defo a toughy but always half expect that on venues where your fishing for the quality n size that abbey offer but hey oh that's fishin I guess!
Hasn't suprised me at all that the fish have spread out,they got hammered in there that week we fished.started showing a bit in front of 15-17 a day before we left but couldn't really get a rig to em from 16.
Be kingfisher f me again next time I think,lovely water with still some unknown whackers in there I think.
Tight lines for rest of season to everyone that's on there this year....
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In reply to Post #508
Hi Andy,
It was a toughy, eh! Since then the fish have spread all over Heron! The 'Crazy Hats' week has been well documented on FB, as was the week before (1 after you!).... 16 has fished really well over the past 2 weeks but ALL the fish have come from 2 spots less than 10ft from the bank (seriously!!)
I can't remember the last time the fish fed this hard on the run into spawning, the guys in 11-12 wound up on 67 fish between them, the following week saw a 35 fish haul from the opposite end of the Lake too?? Hasn't just been the multiple captures that are unusual either, the amount of recaptures is amazing, with Single Scale, Gums, The Grey Lady, The Unknown and Shoulders all slipping up on more than one occasion.. The Unknown is usually a once a year fish but it slipped up twice in 3 days last week, Gums was last out in November 2011 and that's now been on the bank 3 times in the past fortnight!!
Judging by conditions (the amount of early season sunshine, water temps, fish chasing each other, etc..) it looks like they'll spawn quite soon, possible mid May, which'll ease any worries I have after a very late spawning (end of July) left us with a couple of casualties last season!
Fox has continued in much the same vein, with fish coming out all over the Lake! It produced a couple of big hits, back to back, in the past fortnight, with Steve Shaw taking 30 fish and then Matt Miller having 28! This week's already got one chap on 21 fish, Humpy has had a couple of visits to the bank, both times over 70lb, the latter being at a new Lake record of 70lb 14oz!
Kingfisher is truckin' along nicely, the average weight in there is far higher than previously thought and even though there are a fair few upper 20's landed each week, their numbers are easily outweighed by the number of 40lb+ Carp!
Attila was a bit of a slow starter this season but it's now up to full speed, Danny Champion is flying from Peg ?
and is up to 19 fish (I think), with 8x 40's amongst them!!
Wildboar isn't to be sniffed at, it's producing huge numbers of fish, in amongst them, a couple of stand out catches.. A double take in the first week of April, saw a 42+ and a 46 Mirror landed.. A couple of Dutch regulars had 3 40lb+ fish on the bounce (including a gorgeous slate grey Mirror of 45.12) and last Friday night, we had a 45+ fully scaled on the bank!!
For more (regular) updates, feel free to look at the NEW Abbey FB page (with 'likes' not friends) as that's easier to keep topped up with pics, etc..
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #512
See your PM mate, apologies for the delay but I've been proper busy and really ill recently!
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In reply to Post #511
Is spodding a real no no on Fox? I use a boat but my mate I'm coming with refuses to, says it's cheating. He will spod. Don't really want to fish away from me partner but if it means catching or not I will. I got 2 boats but he still wont use one.
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In reply to Post #510
Thanks mate
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In reply to Post #509
Not necesserally needed but can be helpful.
Echos in heavy weed can be unreliable in my experience and I always double check with marker rod just In case.
Polorised glasses and a tall tree can be a much better advantage,on heron certainly.
Spodding a bit of a no no on fox though so if your thinking about particles then a boat is the obvious answer.
I'm sure Ru will be able to offer you some good advice as to what's best to do.
Enjoy your trip.....
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In reply to Post #508
Hi Andy,
I'm out to Abbey in 4 weeks time would you or any of the lads say I would need a bait boat if so would I also need a echo sounder, any other advice would be appreciated.
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We'll that didn't go to plan lol!
Hardest fishing I've ever had at the venue.....never seen so many feeding fish stacked up in the corner of 11 n 12 before in 11 years of abbey trips,albeit on and off.
Fished 16 and tried EVERYTHING I possibly could to get a take to no avail.
Didn't think moving was an option due to the rest of the lake being pretty devoid of feeding fish...
Out of the 7 that fished only 3 fish caught!
Fair play to the lads in 11 though,had a trip of a lifetime including some of the named biggies...
Wasn't overjoyed at driving through the crap Friday traffic to get there early sat morning and the first anglers that day to fish heron,to find the 4 best swims(arguably)already taken  ...up against it from the start and not sure what the answer is as I hate draws as much as the next person but least it'd be a level playing field from the off.....
Having said that,it's still my favourite venue in France and I'll certainly be returning to set the record straight at some point in time.......
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In reply to Post #506
Hi ru, we are coming down in may three of us for our first time on the abbey complex fishing fox lake, we booked up early last year but sadly one of our party was diagnosed with cancer last last year, hes being having treatment for several months and it has taken its toll on him , my question is what is fox like for more social fishing , under normal circumstances we wouldnt care if we fished together we are there to catch fish , however due to the present circumstances we feel it would be good to fish together to keep a eye on him and help when needed, I must say he is a capable angler and thought of this holiday has got him thro alot in the last months but still as friends it good to help if we can ... many thanks ru !
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In reply to Post #500
We've got 3 different Particle mixes available :
1. Dark Addiction - Hemp and Buckwheat with a good dose of pure Aniseed Oil thrown in
2. Dark Addiction Plus - Hemp, Buckwheat, Crushed Corn, Dari and a secret something
3. Yellow Peril - Large Yellow Maize, White Maize and a liquid Sweetener
All 3 of the above are cooked fresh and then vacuum sealed to maintain the goodness. They're bagged up in 2.5kg weights and priced at 12€50 each
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In reply to Post #504
Can count on one hand the number of times I've had to use a boat to land a fish from any of the lakes at Abbey.... and before you say anything, no, I'm not from Norfolk, so it's 5 or less 
If your set up is correct, then it should limit the chances of a fish becoming weeded in the first place. Simple things like having a tight clutch, fishing bowstrings, using drop off leads and having the tips up will naturally draw the fish to the surface on it's initial run..
Also, simple things like fishing sensibly, i.e up to weedbeds and not in them, will help. Just because your echo sounder shows a 6" hole in the weed, while it's floor to ceiling thick for 20yds around it, doesn't mean you should drop a rig there!!
(or go home moaning that you lost the few fish you hooked.... by blaming the fishery to compensate for your stupidity and catch at all costs mentality!)
In a short space of time, I have managed to create spots at least as big as a 2 man groundsheet on 3 of the lakes here and managed to get Anglers on them during the same week, to catch fish. All you need do is find an area the fish are comfortable in/around, chuck a few handfuls of bait in and repeat over the first few days of the trip, resisting the urge to fish it until you're sure they're feeding hard.. You'd probably do it on your water back home, so why not here? I tell everyone to expect a fish a day from Fox or Heron, so if you've got to sit it out and bag a brace a day during the second half of your stay and still reach the required 'target' then surely it's worth it, no? You can clear a surprisingly large area by doing this and normally overnight too. Granted, the approach isn't suitable in every swim but they've all got margins, be it far or near and at least 50% of my captures come from within 10ft of the bank!
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In reply to Post #503
I'm out for 5 nights on Heron mid August. Sounds like I'm going to need a boat with all the weed reported that time of year!
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We should be there quite early sat mornin,some of the lads comin down from Preston so tryin t miss the fri night rush hour but we'll see.cant do anything till light anyway but prob bump into you queuing at reception....
Pity you can't get there earlier mate,12 can be a cracking swim when conditions are right so might not be available by Monday but it's sometimes better to let fate decide....least you'll have a good excuse if things don't go to plan....
see you all on the bank then
Cheers Andy
PS.....can't use rowing boats yet,not weedy enough.
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gutted i can't be out there earlier andy, but other commitments means i only get to travel out monday ,
but then if 12 is open i know where to find you
as for boats i dont know its my fist trip out to abbey
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In reply to Post #500
Andy, what time are you getting there on the 12th?
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From the looks of it there now doin particle, not sure on the price but it's on there website so maybe someone can let us know prices
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12 might be taken mate,out there on the 12th ...... That's if it's open,can only imagine it's quite weedy already due to the mega mild conditions.....any info on whether boats can be used on heron for landing fish?
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In reply to Post #412
congratulations first ru on the birth of your daughter
im out there on the 14th Ru what sort of offers are you open to as 12 is one of the swims i would favour
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In reply to Post #496
Less than a week until I fishing Abbey Lakes (Kingfisher) for the first time. any updated news
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In reply to Post #495
We're see about that Rupert (swim 8) next Saturday LOL
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In reply to Post #494
"8 is mine"
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In reply to Post #493
PS Yes, Kingy 9/10 is a single swim..
1 is a double, 2/3/4 are singles, 5 is a huge double, as is 6, 7 is a single, 8 is mine, 9/10 another BIG double
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In reply to Post #492
Hi guys,
My apologies for the lack of info but I've been back in the UK for the birth of my Daughter until recently! As stated a number of times before, we have a fully functioning website and 2x Facebook pages which are far easier to update and convey info on than a forum, as pictures and the like can be uploaded in an instant!
To sum up :
The whole Complex is fishing VERY well at the start of this season, in contrast to the shocker we had in 2013.. (Due to the weather I might add) once things levelled out, the year obviously ended on a massive high!!
The freezer is still here and available to all but please stick to the limits and don't be surprised if you can't stuff more than your allocated 5kg in there!
There isn't and never will be a draw system here.. It simply won't work for us as we're day ticket and therefore not everybody is arriving/departing on the same day!
Waaaaay back in the low 100 n somethings on this thread, there is all the info you'll need for Kingy. Failing that, just look at the NOTES section at the bottom left of my personal FB page, the same text is repeated there
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I'll be on Heron again in juli for a couple of nights.
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In reply to Post #490
are 9/10 just one swim mate?
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In reply to Post #489
More like a treble I'd say.loads of room for 2 anglers.....
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In reply to Post #488
On the map the point is swim 9 & 10 are they two doubles or two singles close together
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In reply to Post #486
The points a good swim,but most swims on there can accommodate 2 angler except far bank(opposite 1,2,3) and swim 3.
There's no part of the lake that can't be reached from here(point)
I'd have rods pointing towards swim 1 and fish the left hand margins upto half way but not too far out,it's up to 40ft in places.
Spoilt for choice with your other rods depending where everyone else is fishing...down the right hand margin,adjacent bank,far margins etc...
Swim 5 worth a look too.cat anglers like the train side so you'll have to see when you get there...
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In reply to Post #484
I'm in heron mate.
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In reply to Post #485
I'm with a mate and we was thinking about fishing one of the double swims
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In reply to Post #482
Yeah fished swim 1 on kingy couple of years ago....posted some info a bit further down this thread.....
Post#428
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In reply to Post #483
Hi Elad, are you fishing King Fisher lake?
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No draw for swims. What's free when you arrive you pick from, simple as.
I'll put a little up when i return Monday, i'm out there thursday for 4 nights.
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In reply to Post #481
Thanks for the information, Have you fished Kingfisher lake or got any info on it?
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In reply to Post #480
There used to be a freezer there to use but didn't use it last time I went so not 100% sure it's still there..
Didn't know there was a draw
It used to be...get there whenever and soon as it was light you'd walk around the lake,chat to lads that were already on,decide on a swim based on any info/showing fish(usual stuff),drop a bucket in that swim,walk back to office/barn till it opens then book yourself on...first come first served basis.
Hate drawing for swims,can ruin your trip before it begins so hope this isn't the case....
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In reply to Post #479
Thanks for that Andy. do you know how the draw is done for the swim's & Do they have a large Freezer there for bait etc?
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In reply to Post #478
Yes mate can park behind all the swims on kingfisher......and all the others I'm pretty sure.
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In reply to Post #477
Hi Guy's, Does anyone know if you can driver up to the swim's on KingFisher lake (unload & load) keeping your car there would be a bonus
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Chin up Gents. ....when that fish eats it needs to eat to sustain 80 , 90 lbs. ....much better fishing for shoulders when it's hungry in my humble opinion. ...best of luck
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In reply to Post #475
You'll have to let everyone how your week went mate,info seems very scarce at the moment
Just heard from a mate shoulders been out again....not sure how true but bad timing for us 
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Any up to date news how heron is fishing? I'm out there a week today.
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In reply to Post #473
Hi RU12, I see you are going to be using the new Hybrid this season. I will be using it to when I am fishing Abbey Lakes in April. will you be selling it at Abbey Lakes if not what bait do you sell?
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In reply to Post #472
Yes Many congratulations to you Ru and your partner.
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Many congratulations to Ru and partner for the best prize ever!!!!
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In reply to Post #467
Hi tom I'm out in May again all down to Rupert ( buzzing)
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I'm out on heron 2 weeks today. Anyone know how it's been fishing lately?
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Yeah see you there bright n early!
Busy then.think I was the only carp angler on kingfisher the week I went,4 cat anglers on doubled up on point and in 5 I think....ad feckin rods everywhere though!
Still,tucked myself away in swim 1,nice n quiet!
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In reply to Post #467
See you out there Andy, I know there's 7 people on Kingfisher lake, me +1 and 5 others
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Out at Heron for the first time June/July
Read all the stuff from Rupert so got pretty good idea about the swims.
Any more tips from Heron regulars?
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In reply to Post #465
All seems quiet mate??
Out same week on heron n can't find out who's on n what's been out!
Still,weather warmin up nicely n should be a good week to be on the complex.
Got a feelin it might be quite weedy due to the mild weather but it usually is on there tbh...
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In reply to Post #464
Only 4 weeks to go until I'm out at Abbey Lakes fishing Kingfisher lake for the first time and I can't wait. I'm already packing my gear !!! Has any one fished the lake this year and got any information ???
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I've talked the girlfriend into a campin trip to abbey lakes in august, sunny days, dinners under the stars and an ocean views she was sold, can't wait to get back onto fox now
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In reply to Post #462
ok thanks
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In reply to Post #461
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In reply to Post #340
Ru12 do you sell maize at Abbey lakes?
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In reply to Post #459
No only catering size cans of sweetcorn.
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In reply to Post #458
Can you buy maize out there?
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Yeh I've been twice b4 on fox and heron but had plenty of bait this time were limited with space so I'll buy bait out there, can anyone give me a list of what particle the sell and prices please??
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In reply to Post #456
You can buy particle there. Not sure on the price. The tackle shop is decent out there.
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Can u buy particle out there and if so how much is it?
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Evening all, heading to Wild Boar lake mid may. Any advice about the lake tactically/ Bait wise?
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Any recent info on heron,many fishing on there,much been out?
Off out there early April so just wanna keep in touch with the place between now n then...
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In reply to Post #452
Pm you thanks Rupert
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In reply to Post #451
Hi Mark,
Full details in the PM - For anyone else interested in finding out availabilities or confirming a booking. Contact the Clubhouse on 00 33 344 380 866 or email Evelyne : info@abbeylakes.com
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In reply to Post #445
Hi Rupert, looking to come out on my own April May or June do I have to book or can I just turn up.cheers
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In reply to Post #448
Booked onto Heron with the kind advice from Ru ))
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In reply to Post #448
Booked onto Heron with the kind advice from Ru ))
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In reply to Post #447
What lake have you booked Mark?
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In reply to Post #445
Good dangling max
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In reply to Post #445
That's a cracking session.
Just booked for my first ever trip to Abbey next Sept. Been after a trip here for ages but been too busy on other waters in France to make it possible. Looking very much forward to it.
Thanks Ru for the info btw
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In reply to Post #444
No problem at all, as a foot note, his 4 days produced the following :
34.00
28.00
51.00
30.06
33.06
30.02
31.00
25.00
20.00 (C)
40.14
44.08
45.04
35.00
36.10
53.12 (Previously uncaught!)
That's not including the low 20, 45+ and 48.12 that his fishing Partner had either
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In reply to Post #443
Thanks for that RU12
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In reply to Post #442
Hi mate,
It's possible to double up in pegs 1, 5, 6 and 9/10.. It's probably possible to get 3 in 5, 6 and 9/10
Depending on what you're after, a fishy boilie works best. Current faves are Mainline's Mk1 or Activ8 but people have done really well on a number of different high quality fishmeals this year as well as on the Cell.
It does get very weedy but at that time of year, the weed will hopefully only just be starting to push through, so look for any areas between 12-20' in depth and you should find Carp present, any deeper and you may struggle, any shallower and you may stumble across a few rather large Catfish that are starting to wake up after resting over the Winter period!!
I should know better than anyone about the perils of basing your hopes around something that happened last week, month, year or worse but as a guideline of it's potential, Max Cottis has stayed on after the ECAC match and having kidnapped my current swim off me (5) he's had 5x20s, 2x30s, 5x40s and a 51 since thursday afternoon
Only time will tell as to just how much the stock've grown on since they were introduced but I've put in a lot of time on there this season and it's definitely got the makings of a water to rival anything else we have here
(PS Shhhh)
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In reply to Post #441
Thanks for that, what's the best bait / boilies to take?
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In reply to Post #440
If you scroll down the thread a few pages there's a detailed review on every swim on kingfisher.
It's what I used before makin a decision on where to fish 
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In reply to Post #439
Going there next year in April two of us for the first time, any infor & swim's to fish?
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In reply to Post #438
Is the point swim 9 & 10?? If not what swim is it?
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In reply to Post #434
The point on kingfisher is a big double, could even get three on there easy
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In reply to Post #434
I'm sure you can double up in any swim you like. Most of the swims are huge.
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In reply to Post #435
Thanks for that, I did see swim 9 & 10 where close together. Has anyone fished the lake?
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In reply to Post #434
Not sure if any are doubles but swim 9 and 10 are the only swims close enough together for a social, if you got to there website you can download a map with depths and swims on.
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In reply to Post #433
Can anyone tell me if there's any double swims or two swims near each other on Kingfisher lake? if so which ones.
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In reply to Post #432
thanks
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In reply to Post #431
Food can be purchased from the Clubhouse and delivered to your swim.
Some cracky meals as well...!!!
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In reply to Post #430
do you self cater or is food supplied at the complex ?
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Hi boys just had 8 nights hard going on fox but sat it out to on peg 15 to get 4 stunning abbey fish .
From wed on I had a 27lb mirror / 29lb common / 38lb mirror / and on this morning sat 26th a 42lb mirror another fantastic trip what a place get on it boys .big thanks to RU top man ....!!!!!
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In reply to Post #425
Guys the final results from this years Forces Carp Classic (5 - 12 Oct) were as follows:
1. 214 fish caught in total.
2. 205 Mirror & Common carp caught to 67lbs from Fox & Humpy
3. 9 Catfish caught to 107lbs from Kingfisher
4. 4803lbs 15ozs of carp caught to 31 pairs
5. 8 pairs blanked out of 39 total
6. Winning pairs weight from Fox at 592lbs from peg 6
7. Second place weight from Wildboar at 582lbs from peg 1 (on the whistle they had a twenty which they thought had won it for them..!!)
How close is that after a WEEKS fishing...!! Rock on Abbey, fantastic venue...!!
A great weeks total from all 5 lakes on the Abbey Complex.
See you all there next June & October...
Tight lines
Tim Gray
Event Co-Organiser
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Hi mate,
Fished kingy last yr in April swim 1.weed not too bad generally but quite bad around margins.
I used a dinghy to find the clearer spots just off the marginal weed in about 10-15 ft of water.
Did quite well usin a bucket of mixed particle and crushed boilies over a couple of rod then a handful of boilies over each spot.
Had most fish on a stack of maize,2 fake 2 real.only about 2 of 11 takes on cell boilie.
The weed did seem to grow/move around in the margins and spots I fished in the early part of the week became unfishable towards the end and because it wasn't quite to the surface if I hadn't have been out in the boat I may not have realised especially if I'd been usin a Baitboat without a fishfinder.
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In reply to Post #426
Hi All, Can anyone tell me how bad/must weed there is in Kingfisher lake there is?
I'm going there with my mate next year in April for the first time.
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In reply to Post #423
Thanks ru12
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In reply to Post #424
Hi guys. The Winter syndi starts on the 16th Nov and runs until the 15th March 2014. For the first time, It'll include Feb as well this time round. A 4th rod is permitted but there is a time limit of 7 days in any one swim. All the usual facilities will run as per normal this year too, with the exception of the clubhouse which'll just be open for 2hrs in the morning and again before dark in the arvo's....
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In reply to Post #423
winter syndicate starts I think from November onwards, if I am wrong, RU will put you straight soon.
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In reply to Post #422
Hi all
Just wanted to know if and when abbey closes for winter?
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Just booked on heron for next April,can't wait,best venue in France IMO.
Hoping to beat my 44 08 I had from kingy last year......every chance on heron
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In reply to Post #419
Pest control then Robbie
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In reply to Post #418
cheers harry , will call you nearer time
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My only fish from my first ever visit to the venue last july.
Spent 4 nights on Heron in boiling hot temperatures (35'C+) and managed to land a 37lbs+ mirror and sadly lost a fish in a dense weedbed as well.
Deffo a place i'm going back to!
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In reply to Post #417
get there early, well as early as is allowed and have a walk round. See where has been fishing and who is packing up.
Also good to do some research into which swims are best so if a good ones free you can jump straight in there
Ru did a good summary below on this thread.
Shannon I went last year I can fill you in with what I know if you drop me a text
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In reply to Post #416
no mate theres always 5 swims free on fox so you go in whats free when you arrive,all swims produce so its no drama
I was there last week great place to fish
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In reply to Post #413
hi ru
is there a draw for the swims when new anglers arrive on fox ?
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In reply to Post #413
whats it fish like in december please RU?
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In reply to Post #413
How is Kingfisher fishing right now?
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In reply to Post #410
PS Please don't refer to one of our features as 'the plague', not very appetising is it? The real name is 'la plage' aka the beach..
Thanking you please
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In reply to Post #411
Evening all,
Heron's fishing slow but improving as the weather turns. There are 2 swims I have closed, although I am open to offers (dependant on ability) on whether or not you can fish P12.
There really is no need to use a boat on Kingy, looking for spots is handy but once you're over 15', even the clarity can't help you so it's far easier to stay on terra firma and use a bare lead to do the work for you! I have just finished a 10 night sesh on P5 and didn't take to the water for any of the fish I caught. The trick is to drop the lead and then coax the fish through the upper layers, sounds complicated but saves pulling their lips off and/or trashing the swim by rowing over it every time you get a fish!! It is also a very easy tactic to master and saves a lot of messing around during your session..
Regards (good) pegging on Heron right now, I'm not at liberty to say (but aim for the opposite end to the clubhouse) or 20, 23 as dark horses. Shhhh
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In reply to Post #410
how is heron fishing at the minute,out there next week.are there still swims closed?
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In reply to Post #408
Do you think its essential !! to use a boat on kingfisher in early to mid spring or does it remain abundant year round. Thanks in advance.
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In reply to Post #407
Sound mate 06 laguna estate lol!!! from Barnsley so got a fair journey too but it's well worth it !!!!
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In reply to Post #406
Spot on pal, 18th will be our last night but should see you be in 58 plate Scudo and you won't miss Pete about 6ft 4
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In reply to Post #405
It's amazing mate the fish are stunning when u get on them may call for a beer when I get there it's craig by the way hope u get a few wakers the big un normally comes out when your there so fingers crossed for u both we are on fox !!!!
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In reply to Post #404
No mate, lad I'm going with has been a few times and he loves it ;-)
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In reply to Post #403
Have u been before ????
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In reply to Post #401
Carlisle mate 6 mile of Scotland
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In reply to Post #401
hi guys me and my oldman fished heron last year, i cant remember the swim number but it was the end of the spit opposite the island. we decided to go with a few different strategies, we used the cell as it was a known catcher there and also took another bait ( liver and tuna acebaits) , we decided to bait one area very heavy right off the island in front of us. and a few margin spots. other rigs were cast in bags. i have to say that it was the bagged rods with just a handful of boilies over it that produced the most fish, but we took the larger carp towards the latter end of the week off the large heavily baited areas. the large area baited was with cell, the boilie that produced most the fish for us was liver and tuna they loved it, we mixed it up with different boilie sizes and just a simple bolt rig, the venue is lovely, and everythign you need is there. the carp are stunning, we took a good few fish with the biggest being a 47lb mirror, also had a 45lb common, but some real lumps in there, one guy had a 62lb out our week. we went first week of september. dont ignore the margins, the amount of times we were up early first light watching the carp mill about right under your rod tips. also dont go tight to the island and features, the carp were taken about 10 yds off of them. top place and really enjoyed it with some stunning fish and great people that work there. food was top notch.
wish i was there now..lol tight lines fellas and keep us posted on what you catch
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In reply to Post #400
Nice one mate I'm there on the 18th for 8 days were u from????
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In reply to Post #399
Can't wait heading over next Friday to fish Heron, just shy of a 600 mile drive there but that's the joys of fishing
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In reply to Post #398
Swim 9 and 10 look good? Whats the best swim's on the lake?
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In reply to Post #397
we have just booked Kingfisher for two next April 12th
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In reply to Post #396
Hi ru it's craig me and mi pal are out on the 18th oct on fox how's it fishing and how's the weed at the moment mate???? . (Max's and Gerard pal)
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In reply to Post #395
Hi Gents,
Like mentioned below, there is a general Abbey thread already running on here. There is also an additional set of text available on my personal Facebook profile, Rupert Whiteman, that should fill in all the gaps for you
Regards swims, we don't reserve them.. or allow you too lol.. It's easier to allow our Anglers to check in at 8am (and check the others at 10am), giving them a couple of hours to walk the complex and have a chat with those departing so they can choose something themselves, rather than second guessing where'll be hot or not a year or more in advance!!
We can always accomodate 2 Anglers, so simply drop us an email to info@abbeylakes.com or ring the booking office between 0800-1200 or 1700-1900hrs (EUROPEAN TIME)
We do have plenty of availability in April 2014 IF YOU'RE QUICK, there are quite a few whole weeks taken on the complex on various lakes but if you are looking to travel in a group of 2-4 and are flexible, there is no reason we can't find you a slot..
(Pleae note that we are already taking bookings for the end of the 2015!! season now, so if you want to visit us, don't delay in contacting us otherwise it may be too late for any provisional dates you have in mind?!)
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #391
There's two of us. i go to france at less two or three times a year, my mate has only been once. so i'm looking for some where to fit both of us
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In reply to Post #393
If it's empty, you can go in it.
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how are the pegs chosen on fox or heron??
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What's the availability like for early April nxt year on kingfisher?
Regards Andy..
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In reply to Post #390
What sort of experience have you got and what are you hoping to achieve during your stay?
The short answers are :
WildBoar - Lots of action from fish averaging 18-25lb but with the probability of a low 30 in there somewhere and the outside chance of a 40
Attila - No longer a runs water as such but big hits of fish are still possible, average weights are between 28-33lb and there's a very real chance of a 40lb+ fish
KingFisher - Originally better known for it's Catfish and Pike, KF has turned into an awesome winter/spring Carp lake. The average size is somewhere in the low/mid 30's, 40's are banked on a weekly basis and there is always the chance of a 50lb fish. KF also holds what we believe is actually the largest Carp on the complex but only time will tell just what it weighs....
Fox - Has the highest average weight of fish on site. Somewhere in the upper 30lb bracket, there are literally hundreds of 40's, approx 25-30x 50lb+ fish, a handful of 60's and Humpy has just topped the 70lb mark
Heron - Set up to provide more action than Fox, the average weight is slightly lower (around mid 30's) but there are a staggering amount of 50lb'ers present, around 75 fish now top that weight, with Shoulders now weighing over 85lb!
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #389
Hi all, What would be the best lake to fish next year in April. would be the first time fishing there, for two people?
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In reply to Post #388
Hi does anyone know if my chub barrow mat is ok to use at abbey it has ridged sides like a cradle
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In reply to Post #387
Thanks
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In reply to Post #386
Boilies are defo in favour at the moment! The fish are really starting to feed, hard and they won't get full in bits!! I'd never advise against hemp/pellet but use those to get some smell in the water and then ween them on to the round things
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In reply to Post #385
lol cheers. just like to get a bit of a heads up from the man in the know !
dont want to take sack loads of pellet or particle to find its not needed or the other way round.
will bring boilies unless advised otherwise !!!!
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In reply to Post #384
Jeez,
Don't get so emotional fella! Hardly necessary to bring the kitchen sink. It's a carp lake, just like any other but with a smidge more weed and a scattering of Crays. Wouldn't worry too much about them either as our netting this season has been extreme in the least and we really do appear to have (finally) got 'em on the run!!
My sincere apologies to everyone for the lack of posts recently but everything is at your fingertips in my absence!!!!
There is a swim by swim guide further down this post, as well as all the info on the Abbey website regards the lakes and how best to approach them overall and there is of course, the wonder of Facebook that'll keep you up to date on thing from day to day!
I am incredibly busy this season due to my change of position and the lack of an outright Bailiff to assist me, so I'm juggling a much bigger workload and don't always have time to answer every email in person.
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #383
appreciate your reply. many thanks
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In reply to Post #382
Hi mate only been a couple of times so no expert mainline cell is a good bet . The weed on fox is generally about 20 yards from the bank then quite clear .Heron is very weedy but there lots of clear spots a marker rod is a must .Ru has maps of most swims and good knowlage of them so it's good to have a coffee and a chat when u arrive fish just like u were in England with bigger hooks lol hope that's helped u a bit the fish are stunning hope u get a few
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In reply to Post #376
guess i will just have to take every type of bait and tackle and find out when i get there , lol 
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In reply to Post #379
How vital is a bait boat?
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In reply to Post #379
Cheers mate
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In reply to Post #378
The weed is normally ok and if there is room ru will Let u move as long as u in form him there is no draw !!!!
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In reply to Post #369
Looking for a little info on the lakes hoping to do a week here at the end of April
Can you swap lakes while you are there ?
What's the weed generally like April/may I know weather depending ?
Is there a draw ?
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Anybody fishing 17 th oct to 26th oct
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In reply to Post #371
any tips , anyone ? ru ?
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Was wondering if anybody on here could give me any information about fishing fox lakes not so much rigs and baits as I'm pretty sure I have that down but mainly hot spots on the lake popular swims anything to give me a leg up when I arrive as I'm going in few weeks also how is the weed and Crays situation at moment?
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In reply to Post #373
many thanks
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About 2 hr 15 mins mate
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In reply to Post #371
how long does it take to get to abbey from calais ? anyone ?
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In reply to Post #359
hi ru
any tips on fishing fox in autumn ?
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In reply to Post #369
hello mate you have probably answered this question lots of times,can u just turn up and fish the lakes on the complex or is it pre book.
thx fella
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In reply to Post #368
No problem at all mate, glad to be of assistance
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In reply to Post #305
Andy was one of the guys who had to drop out Rupert ,it was terry gilbert with a pb of 43.10 and me who had the 45 pb plus that cracking 39.2 common .
We had a great week and had some lovely fish thoroughly enjoyed ourselves and will definitely be back especially for a chance at the big one we were watching in the corner .
When the smallest of the 4 fish in the swim takes the bait and its a common of that size it gives you an idea of the quality of fish in the complex .
thanks for you invaluable info and help Rupert
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In reply to Post #365
Shoosh, you stupid, stupid, little man!
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In reply to Post #359
keeping the kitchen open and providing the bar for any mon/wed/sat/sun footy that you guys maybe interested in watching?
Being a Spurs fan Ru, I am surprised you have forgotten that there is footy on a Thursday as well  
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In reply to Post #363
Cheers Ru, I'll do without then, sure we could borrow one if needed anyway
See you soon
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In reply to Post #357
Heron is pretty weedy and although worse than the past 2 seasons, it's nowhere near as bad as it was in the earlier days, i.e pre 2009!
A boat is handy but not essential, at a guess, at least 85% of every swim is fishable, with issues being limited to pegs 6-8 and 10-12
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In reply to Post #358
WildBoar is still fishing well, the best approach at present is to fish fruity/sweet boilies over a bed of particle. Mainline's Sweet pineapple or Essential IB seem to be doing the trick right now. Particle wise, Hemp and Corn always produce, although Pigeon conditioner aka Red Band is a cheaper alternative and the fish seem to like the Aniseed content?!
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In reply to Post #357
The Facebook page is still alive and kicking guys, had a little sabbatical for a week or so as we had probs with the internet after a massive hailstorm caused a 'few problems' in the local area!!
Back to normal now though
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In reply to Post #355
Chesties would be an advantage, wellies will suffice in certain areas, although it shouldn't be necessary to enter the lake at all?!
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In reply to Post #354
Hi,
Tips on fishing Fox in November are : That it will cost you 750€ as Abbey is trialling a winter syndicate this season! The price entails full access to ALL the lakes on the complex at any time from 16th Nov through until the 16th March, including for the first time, February! The clubhouse will operate extended hours and we'll also be keeping the kitchen open and providing the bar for any mon/wed/sat/sun footy that you guys maybe interested in watching? This opportunity is available to just 35 spaces and there are now only about 6 spots left for the rota..
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #357
looking to fish wild boar or Attila lakes what on do recommend
mike
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What's happened to the Facebook page ?
Anyone been on Heron lately, how weedy ? Do I need a boat ?
Thanks.
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In reply to Post #355
A up Ru,
Im on wild boar in 3 weeks, how is it fishing mucca?
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In reply to Post #354
Are waders needed for Wild Boar or can I get away with just wellies if I need to go into the edge?
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In reply to Post #353
any tips on fishing fox lake in november guys ?
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In reply to Post #352
Thanks Ru. Will come armed with a fair amount of bait and the plastic to get more if needed! Hopefully meet you when we are there if you are about!
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In reply to Post #351
Recognized the question but just thought I'd cover the ground again. We accept both mate, so whatever suits you? Just be aware that any euros leftover at the end of your trip won't be worth a rub when you get home!!!!
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In reply to Post #350
Thanks Ru, top advice. I sent you an e mail the other day about bait prices but more importantly, does the shop accept card payments or should I come armed with a wad of Euro's?!
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In reply to Post #349
Hi mate,
That's not a recommendation for usage, just an 'allowance' lol.. By all means bring less as we can always replace it if you need but I always err on the side of caution when prepping for a trip abroad and would rather go in with too much rather than not enough.. Wouldn't go shopping (or to Spearmint Rhino) with a fiver, would you?
If they're in a friendly mood, I can assure you that it'll probably be nearer 3kg per rod, per day!
The lake is ALMOST devoid of weed, so having a lead around, etc.. Is fine and it certainly won't spook the fish as one of WildBoar's most popular summer methods is to use the 'SpodiCopter' a Dutch method entailing a spod and a 2-3' hooklink dangling beneath it, this relies entirely on attracting fish into the area with the noise (and to a lesser extent obviously, the food) as it's recast every 5 or so minutes!
As for the Crays, NO.... Not that we're aware of (yet) anyway
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #348
Hi guys, 3 of us are doing a long weekend on Wild Boar at the end of September and any advice anyone can give us would be great as its our first time there! I've read through the previous threads on here and see that Ru recommends 1kg per rod per day. Can anyone help in terms of whether method feeding works on Wild Boar and will firing out groundbait balls work or do you need to be spodding a bed of bait out there and fishing over it? Also, as its a prety much weed free lake, can I get away with having a lead around and casting to showing fish/likely spots or is a marker rod needed? Finally, are there any crayfish in Wildboar to worry about? Thank you!
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In reply to Post #347
Glad fox is fishing well, roll on September!!
I'm sure ill have an interesting trip with two days on Fox and then two on wild bore!
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In reply to Post #346
Kingfisher is flying mate,
Iain Macmillan is over for a 4 dayer and his mate, Lloyd, is 11-0 up after a day and a bit!!
Fox is fishing pretty well too, Ian Russell is over with Terry Hearn's dad and a couple of other friends and they've had a fair few now, Ian's on 6, Terry's dad has had 5 inc. a couple of lovely 40's, Stacey and Matt have chipped in with some 20's and upper 30's!
A good mate of mine is here as well and although he's not caught yet, his Partner has bagged a couple of nice 20's!
The Heron party had a tough week in the end, the 8 of them only managed to bank 7 fish, with the biggest going 50lb+ but 2 of them rustled up 7 from their last night by switching to Attila!
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Ru, how is the rest of the complex doing? We are up Friday for a 48hr sesh on kingfisher.
Cheers mate
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In reply to Post #343
Devastated, fella.. I'll happily argue until I'm blue in the face that Bruno was without question one of the most iconic fish of ALL time!
As previously stated, there have been others that are bigger, MUCH bigger even, scalier and a smidge darker BUT I have never seen a fish with his qualities at that size. In fact, I'd go so far as to say it was absolutely scale perfect and even after he received the scar, I think that just gave the fish a little character and didn't detract from it one bit..
I'll leave it there for fear of sounding like an oddbod who was fixated by a carp but it's safe to say that although his place in the ranks will be filled in the near future by one or two others (White Tips is now on a par, weight wise and the Unknown is rapidly taking on Bruno's legendary colouration), he's already etched his name into Abbey folklore and the staff here are crestfallen by what's happened, especially as it was a bolt from the blue!
Hope no one on here has taken offence to my little send off I gave him on FB, I wasn't trying to glorify the fish in anyway or put him up as some sort of carpy martyr but both Seb and I felt it was only right that we released the news asap and gave everyone the heads up on what had occured.... I can think of others that wouldn't have.. For various reasons!!
Many thanks for all the kind messages I've received too, touched as well by the number of people that thought it was fitting I was the last person to bank the fish.
So, to an incredible beast.. RIP mon ami!
Ru
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In reply to Post #326
Wow that fish is outstanding. 
May have to take a look at this place.
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Ru, sorry to hear about Bruno passing. What an extraordinary looking carp. I just wish I had been one of the lucky few to have looked at him in my net.
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In reply to Post #341
hi ru
like I said its only my nick-name, but when I get the pic up and you have a look you will understand the name.
I will have a go fri when ive finished work.
as for coming back oh yeah ya going to see us again.
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In reply to Post #338
Hi mate,
Glad you enjoyed yourself and got that all important 40+
It'd be nice to see a pic, naming's normally for 55lb fish but I'll bear you in mind for sure
Hopefully the food scare won't last too long over here and things'll get back to normal asap, we're having yet another re-jig of the menu as I write and once everything's in-house, that should be the end of any probs caused by outside sources!!
Hopefully see you again in the near future,
Ru
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In reply to Post #339
Hi matey,
There are some and the obvious Tench (they're in all the lakes here) but not enough to punish you if you use hemp, corn and pellet!
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In reply to Post #336
A up Rupert,
cheers for the heads up mucca. just one last question, is there any silver fish in wild boer or just carp? Ie will i get pestered if i use pellet......
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In reply to Post #336
hi Rupert Paul here, me and ken had a great time and achieved what we wanted to do, beat our pb's. I will see if I can figure out how to post the photo of that 40 I caught p.s I've nick-named it apple slice because of the big scale hope ya don't mind.
the breakfast was great every morn but dinner in a bun for 4 days needs to be addressed although I do understand the situation your in.
all in all a good time was had and we would be happy to return, and thanks for all the effort you put in and maps you drew. top fella hats off to you.
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In reply to Post #336
Thanks all,
Yes i Knew 50 kg was alot ( just about use that in a year in the uk ) but have heard all sorts of storys about how much to take. So thanks for the info,And will get some pellet for the session.
Ru will see you there. cant wait......
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In reply to Post #333
Hi mate, there's very little weed to mention, although there are a few snags. With that in mind, spooling up with some strong mono or fluoro is ideal. I'd also invest in some size 4 hooks (as a minimum). Bait-wise, the WildBoar fish love a fruity/sweet boilie but swerve the 50kg and aim for around 1kg per rod, per day, that should be ample but if not, we have plenty of stock in the shop here! It's also worth bringing a few kg of mixed 2-8mm pellet
Regards
Ru
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In reply to Post #333
aint fished that lake but 50 kg is a hell of a lot of bait for 5 days mate
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Hello All,
Im going to france for the first time at the end of August for 5 nights on Wild Boer ,any tips from you all would be much appricated. I really dont wont to blank lol I dont know whether to fish like i do in the UK or take 50kg of boilies (which i dont normally do). As i said any info would be tops.
tight lines to you all
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In reply to Post #331
thats a beautiful fish, just booked a long weekend two nights on fox and then two on wildbore cant wait!
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In reply to Post #329
Yes mate...truly awesome fish in perfect nick....I bet it's just about sunk in!
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In reply to Post #328
Fantastic fish Ru, roll on September
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In reply to Post #326
Thanks very much Karl.. Much appreciated and only fair that the rest of the world sees Bruno 'in the flesh'
There are bigger and there are scalier but IMO this is just about the finest Carp swimming!
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In reply to Post #326
Perfect in every way.
I'd give my right knacker for that.
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In reply to Post #326
Thats one stunning fish
I may be intrested in a few days at the end of the month
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Popping the pic in for you Ru
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In reply to Post #324
All will be revealed when you arrive at the Clubhouse Jamie, I'm back at Abbey so will do my utmost to see you enjoy a successful first trip to the complex!
Regards,
Ru
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Hi there
I'm fishing atilla this Saturday for 4 days.any tips
Or know the best swim etc as its my first time
At abbey lakes
Cheers
Jamie
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In reply to Post #321
Hi mate,
Yep, that's not a problem.. Children up to the age of 9 are free of charge (you didn't say how old?) and if he likes his fishing that much and you don't mind sacrificing a rod, he's welcome to one of yours during your stay.. Providing it's under your supervision!
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #320
Hi Ru, I'm coming over this weekend for a week on Heron, are there any bait boats for hire on the complex?
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Ru, can intake my boy on a non angler ticket? Right into his fishing, but still a bit young to fish a place like abbey.
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In reply to Post #319
You'll be alright matey, the fishing is steady if nothing else and fish are being caught from all over the lake and to top it off, the sun has poked it's head out and it's due to stay for a little while!
Check the latest pic on the NEW Abbey Facebook page for proof (lol) - We're (finally) all in shades n shorts over here!
See you in a couple of days chap
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In reply to Post #317
im booked on fox lake for a week this Wednesday, it will be my 1st time at abbey and im excited about going.
my question is how is it fishing at the moment and is the weather any good.
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In reply to Post #317
Cheers Ru, they've not long finished here in Germany. Back on the lakes in October for the FCC too. See you in a few weeks.
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In reply to Post #316
Hi mate,
They've had a good go so fingers crossed, they'll be finished at some point this week? They'll definitely be done by then though so please don't panic lol.. Don't think even the English carp wait that long?!
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In reply to Post #315
Any sign of the carp spawning on kingfisher yet Ru? Got a weekend booked on the lake at the end of July.
Cheers mate
Mick
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In reply to Post #311
Hi mate,
As stated above/below, rowing boats are only permitted for the landing of fish that have become stuck fast in weed, not for any other reason!! Offenders shall be prosecuted/persecuted and then generally leave feeling victimised as they'll have lost their deposit and right to fish here again! You are free to bring your own but we do have 2 on-site that are available should be be in need and these are available by contacting the clubhouse.
Having said that, we do allow people to look for spots, bait up, drop rigs and play fish from the off in Kingfisher lake as it has a head of huge catfish and it's only fair on them that you do your utmost in respect of fish safety and welfare by getting over the top of them as quickly as feasibly possible to ensure some of these absolute beasts don't get entangled in the weed, so if that's more your thing, KF is the one for you!
@ Jez, many thanks mate, you know that was the only fish I wanted, it's the only carp I have ever 'specifically' targeted and though it took me a bloody long time to do it, achieving the goal has made me a very happy camper
I would put a pic up but I haven't got a bloody clue how to
R
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Well Done to Ru on the capture of the awesome Bruno looking magnificent!
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In reply to Post #312
You need to take your own boat andy. It can only be used to land fish that are weeded up. No baiting up or
Dropping rigs. Bait boats are used a lot on there.
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In reply to Post #310
sorry dp
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In reply to Post #310
i have seen mention of baiting from boats, are they allowed on all lakes? are there any supplied or do you take your own?
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In reply to Post #309
Hi C4rpa,
ALMOST!
Attila is done, as is Heron (we think?!), the Fox fish have got another go left in them by all accounts and I'm not sure the Kingifsher fish have even thought about it yet (but that is very deep, dropping to 42' in places, so prob taking much longer to warm up all over!)
Hope that helps,
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #307
have the fish finished spawning?
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In reply to Post #307
Thanks Ru.....had a really enjoyable time Mate...just love them dark Abbey fish also good to see you Guys and the hard work Seb and Co have put in to the place! The Restaurant really looks impressive and I certainly won't be roughing it during my next trip!
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In reply to Post #306
Congratulations on your weekender fella, defo worth the zip across the channel!
Can't believe it's so quiet here right now, Heron has switched back on after their little attempt at spawning last week and it's produced 50's for a few guys over the past 24hrs, although I lost mine due to the weed, first and last time I EVER leave my rods in, while I exit the swim.. Would've thrown the book at anyone else and have been kicking myself all day!! Managed to get it out, only for the fish to charge under the boat and cut me off on the backboard.. Bad angling!!!! Think it was the 'Unknown' judging by the scale pattern but didn't deserve it after that..
Kingfisher has thrown up a couple of 20kg fish (44+) over the same period, as has WildBoar of all places, getting a feeling that our new 'runs' water holds more surprises than we first thought
Attila is a tad slow but they've been spawning hard in there, which is good as they've pushed up to the top end of the lake now, meaning everyone can fish comfortably between 45-80 yards instead of launching singles to the horizon.
More reports as they happen, pics are always updated daily on Facebook for anyone that wants to see some of these creatures 'in the flesh'
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In reply to Post #305
Sounds like the Abbey I know and love in June Ru! Can't wait to get on that Chunnel in the morning.....first Beer is on me
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In reply to Post #301
************ NEWSFLASH *************
Kingfisher lake has produced a new 60lb Carp! Details are a bit sketchy right now but we'll provide you with an update as soon as possible.. Elsewhere, Heron has given up one of it's prized assets to Tom Ison, who banked the 'Long Common' just before leaving first thing this morning. The fish weighed over 55lb (25kg) for the first time! As reported yesterday, Paul Matthews had a new 50lb fish from Fox lake and there have been a further 12 different 40's reported on the complex today! Karl Westcott has been bagging up, taking fish for fun somewhere on Fox, with 5 fish this afternoon alone! Andy McWilliams and John Andrews have both managed to winkle out PB's too, with fish over 43lb, the biggest going 45lb 8oz! Over on Heron, Andre Schnitzler's party have got amongst 'em as well, with a few over the 40lb barrier including a very large (for this time of year) 'Shoulders' at 82lb 8oz and the legendary 'Bruno' at a mammoth 65lb 8oz.. Good times (and good weather ahead)
There you go, Jez.. Hope that helps? The big girl has done more time on the bank over the past few weeks than I have (lol), after playing hide'n'seek from xmas until mid may, it has been out five times, ranging in weight from 80.00 to 84.00 on the nose! The above is only Bruno's second visit to the bank since the turn of the year and if you haven't been paying attention to the new FB page, Humpy is now over 70lb too!!
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #303
Cheers mate tempted by a long weekend later on in the year
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In reply to Post #302
2 hrs mate piss of cake
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In reply to Post #301
how long is the drive from calais?
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Any updates Gents?
Looking at the next few weekend's for a dabble
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In reply to Post #299
Well done to him.....I heard it was his first bite?... Fair play
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Just heard my m8 on the complex has just had shoulders at 80lb 8oz's!! 👍👍
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In reply to Post #295
hi with regard to bait im looking to get some pellet for my trip to fox in july. so I was wondering what type i.e halibut, trout etc and what sort of size I should go for big or small? one last thing the amount I was thinking of was 50kg for the week with about 3-5kg of boilie.
All advice gratefully received.
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In reply to Post #295
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In reply to Post #295
No probs at all buddy the guy i was giving advice to is going in september i agree would be crazy using that amout of bait this time of year.
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In reply to Post #294
Evening all,
While it is not (entirely) down to me to dictate how you go about fishing at Abbey, I think I'm in a fairer position than most to comment on what is and isn't deemed acceptable and I'd have to whole heartedly disagree with Gaz on this one!!
While big beds of bait have and will continue to have their day at the right time of year, I cannot condone baiting up to this degree in the current climate.
As everybody knows, the past winter has been a grueller and as such, the lakes (and to a lesser extent, the fish), are still 'waking up' right now, we're only just seeing the first buds poking through on the branches of most of our trees and none of the lakes are ready for such a method. End of!
The lakes are all fishing quite well of late but and it's a big but, the majority of successful Anglers at this time are scoring by fishing small, tight areas of bait (i.e bags and the odd spombful) in the shallower water and also on the zigs in mid-water..
As much as I greatly appreciate someone tossing a quarter of a tonne of grub into one of the lakes to feed our beautiful fish, if I find/see/hear of anyone doing it until summer is officially announced by the trillions of (self-proclaimed) acknowledged experts in the field of carping on Facebook and the Forums, I shall personally escort you to the north facing slip road at J9 for potentially spoiling the fishing of others who've paid a lot of money for the privilege of being at Abbey. Not only that but I can well live without the stench of piles of rotting, uneaten bait as it pops up off the lakebed over the coming weeks..
Rant over
PS This wasn't a personal dig in the slightest Gaz, my best haul at Abbey came to a similar sized banquet I laid on for 'em a few years ago but there's a time and a place. We have only just got over the shock of a recent Angler's exploits, when he proceeded to whack out 100kg of the cheapest boilies he could find and killed one end of the lake stone dead for 14 days!!
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #293
Cheers buddy you will love it take plenty of bait im no abbey expert but got thro 250 kg in a week on fox for 63 carp and 200kg on heron last year for 17 carp couple of mid 50s been best have a good one
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In reply to Post #292
check out their facebook pages, you can find the link on their website.
You dont have to have a facebook account, booked up for my first visit in September
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In reply to Post #291
Any news on how its fishing
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Ru just like to say thank for all the advice while Iwas there hope u have a good year mate tight lines and boys listen to this guy knows his stuff thanks once again !!!!
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In reply to Post #289
Haha, I'm not a stalker mate.. Maybe just to tie a light line to one of your bobbins or to turn your bivvy through 180° but nowt worse than that
Dutch Richard has struggled today and only had another 5 LOOOOL, these included the Grey Lady at 55+
If you're turning up within the next fortnight GET ON THE MAGGOTS, PEOPLE!!!!
R
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Haha! I am having visions of waking up for a pi$$ in the early hours and you being stood behind my bivvy ready to start giving me $hit!!
Yeah it's well worth befriending Abbey on Facebook. Fun updates and that 'Wanted' pic of the big Girl is enough to get anyone's juices flowing!
Hopefully she fancies saying hello again in November, after I have had a few days on Kingfisher.
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In reply to Post #287
****ing hell, just cos you lot haven't got any 'stars' left to sell, don't start picking on the Spurs, Mowgli.. ITV4 looks like more of a test to you lot at the moment, so I'd focus on that before you get too involved in some serious banter with me.. It could be a loooong 7 days for you as I have nowt better to do some days, than stand behind a swim idly 'chatting' to Anglers
Yep, Shoulders is due to make it's customary spring appearance and it wouldn't surprise me if it was from 14 within the next 48hrs!! There's a Dutch fella, Richard Agterberg, in there right now and after blanking for all of 16hrs in 19, he upped sticks and moved into the bay at the far end where after just over a day he has rattled out 17 carp between upper 20's and 60lb (White Tips)
Steve Gurka is in 11 and he got off to a flyer, banking no less than 6 carp in his first 8hrs fishing on sunday. 2x 30's and 4 different 40's to 48.10 isn't a bad start in anyone's books!
For anyone due a visit soon, a good mix of particle, mini pellet and/or Cell and maggots looks to be the way forward?!
Fox is off to a much slower start but I think that's almost entirely due to the weather. Last week's snow and seriously cold wind saw a lot of Anglers delay and re-book their trips for later in the year so as yet, we have only had 8 guys on in total since the 15th! The best fish from there so far has been a 46+ with a couple of other 40's inc. one of the 'fullys'
Keep your eyes peeled on the NEW Abbey FB page for up to date catch reports and any other latest news, I shall 'drop by' on here from time to time to let you all know of anything important as I think of it but I'm really busy with the new tackle shop, bait and food packages so it's easier for me to post stuff up in one fell swoop on there....
R
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In reply to Post #286
Did Gareth Bale get injured for Wales last night
I need to get the digs in now Ru, hopefully I'll be seeing you later this year but I'll need something else to rib you about then as Bale would have long since left you Minnows!
Back on subject, are you expecting to see Shoulders out soon. Doesn't she make an April (ish) appearance?
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In reply to Post #285
Hi Chogori,
Easiest way is to email info@abbeylakes to check any availabilities in advance, ours is an open-ended booking system so we can see well into the coming seasons what's occuring space wise, rather than just booking year by year.. Failing that, ring 00 33 761 965 963 and I'll have a natter with you in person about what's on offer in each particular lake and the prices, as they differ slightly dependant on where you're headed..
Dan-N, regards the Cats in Kingfisher, the average weight is somewhere between 75-90lb, with a huge head of 100+ fish up to 140-150ish and then 3 that we know of that are comfortably in excess of 180lb, the biggest being 224lb at the last capture!! These don't look like your typical 'stout' Ebro jobbies, ours are bloody long, thin things that scare the be-jesus out of you if you're playing them from a small boat..
Finally, just to clarify, b*llocks, Mowgli!!!!
Ru
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In reply to Post #280
Dear Mr Keogh,
May I just take this opportunity to say a big, hearty "b*llocks!" to you
That is all
R
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In reply to Post #283
Ta for the reply!
I`m glad to hear we can book. Not looking for anything spectacular, a week on Atilla would do me just fine, be nice to catch something for a change!
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In reply to Post #282
there's no 'turn up and hope' - you need to have booked and paid in advance and usually you select a lake at time of booking. If during your stay you want to move, providing there is room you can move to a different one.
Abbey has lakes of all standards, from Wildboar and Attilla which are easier to fox and heron that are trickier and have fish to 70 and 83lb respectively.
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In reply to Post #281
Think we might take the plunge next year and head out to France....................
Abbey seems to tick most of the boxes for us, not fussed about fishing for colossal carp, just want a bit of action and a lot of fun!
One thing though, how does this `day ticket turn up and hope` work? Is there any advance booking for a whole lake or do we just arrive and hope for the best?
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In reply to Post #279
Thanks for your advice mate, hopefully I can catch a few beasts! We have got a boat sorted and we are just going to use bollie and pellet...can anyone recommend a decent line? I'm spooled up with brown sensor 20lb atm would that be ok do you reakon? I've heard there's some decent size cats...
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In reply to Post #279
Get in there you COTTAGERS!!!
FULLLLLLLLHAMMMMMMMMM!
Dan-n....... I am hoping to be out on Kingfisher later in the year so make sure you update us all with your results! Good luck!
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In reply to Post #278
Hi Dan,
Stick with what you know. Standard UK tactics'll do fine but just up your line to 15-20lb BS as it can get quite weedy in there, although I'm not so sure about by then as this year has been bloody cold so far, no need to over-complicate the rigs either, as despite their size, the Carp are still pretty naive in there.. I'd suggest a hooklink material of 25lb BS too as there are a few small Mussels dotted about in the weed! Look to drop your leads and use big, strong hooks as if you're really lucky, the Cats should just be getting into feeding mode by then and 6's, 8's and 10's will do more harm than good.. 4's and 2's will do nicely, Fox XSC and/or Gardner CONTI Muggas are my current faves!
If you can lay your hands on a rowing boat then so much the better, you're allowed to use one for finding spots, marking, baiting up and playing fish so it'd be an advantage if you can?!
Check www.abbeylakes.co.uk for a full run-down of the lake and don't panic, if you're unsure of what you need then we have a fully stocked tackle shop here now, that'll have all the Abbey essentials you might need
Regards,
Ru
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Alright fellas!
Right I've got a trip booked for the 12th April next month on the kingfisher lake and I wonder if anyone can give me a few pointers on tatics, rigs, baiting up and also which line to use. I was thinking of going for the parachute bag with a snowman rig.
Cheers
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In reply to Post #276
Fair enough
Any fish coming out? see the 41lb on face book. Should I bring my skis
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In reply to Post #275
Ouch, very ouch!
He does go over 'fairly' easily but after comparing his technique to Suarez's on sunday, I'd say he has a way to go until he can consider himself world class lol!!
Anyway, I don't want to turn this into a football thread so I shall save any further abuse until you are bankside Mr Craig!
R
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In reply to Post #274
Think we will we also need some dive checks on Mr Bale on Sunday
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In reply to Post #273
Oh dear, oh dear.. I can feel a few inconveniently timed rig checks coming on!!
COYS!!
PS Check out the Abbey facebook page(s) for a brace of absolutely crackin' snow pics for Barry Leonard who was out in it last night!
We are currently under 8" of snow (and -15°C temps!!!!) but the French forecasters are still maintaining that next week'll be positively balmy, so having checked that the Eurotunnel is open, don't forget to pack your speedos to eliminate any tan-lines
Ru
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In reply to Post #272
Looking forward to building a snowman on Friday !😆
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In reply to Post #271
Come on you Fulham
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COME ON FULHAM!!!!!!!
EDIT - AND ENGLAND!!
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In reply to Post #269
Rugby on the Saturday, Spurs game on the Sunday. although I wouldn't call Spurs-Fulham a game! more a kick about!
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In reply to Post #268
It all depends whether it clashes with the Tottenham game matey?
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In reply to Post #267
Just had a thought, none fishing related. Is there any provision at Abbey for watching the Rugby at the weekend?
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In reply to Post #266
Morning!
Just to put you all in the picture, weather doesn't look rosy at all for THIS week (up to the 17th) but is turning positively tropical after friday and next week's average temps should be around 15-19°C.... IF the weathermen are to be believed but it's a tough call as they're changing their minds every few hours on the long range forecast?
We have 20mm of snow forecast for today, the same for tuesday, -15°C on wednesday night and another helping of snow on thursday this week before it all ****s off and leaves us in peace and quiet!
Rock on the 15th gents, whoever is booked in for the following 7 days MAY just have a proper result on the cards?!?!
See you all soon,
Ru
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In reply to Post #265
Think there could be a chance lake might freeze for the first few day ??
-7 on the 15th !! That's cold.
Lets hope the weather man is wrong!
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In reply to Post #264
I'm out there on the 15th for four days. Never been to Abbey before, looking forward to it. Weather appears to be taking a turn for the worse!!
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In reply to Post #262
Hi ru I'm coming on the 15 th for 9 nights how's it been fishing max my pal is there at the min hope to get a few wakers any other boys there as I'm on mi own ???
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In reply to Post #262
Good morning Gents,
Just a quick post to inform you all that as the new season gets closer and closer, we have managed to get the food package, bait ordering system and tackle shop infrastructure in place!
There has also been the annual overhaul of the road that surrounds the lakes on the complex so it should remain bump-free and user friendly for 2013!
Full details of the food and bait services are available for all to see on the .co.uk website and within the next couple of days, there will also be downloadable forms for you all to use to secure both these exciting offers.
After a lengthy discussion, the decision was made to run with a more manageable number of suppliers to the on-site tackle shop, so for the time being at least there will be terminal tackle and all the necessary odds'n'sods you might need from Fox, Avid, Gardner and RigMarole. Matrix Innovations will be looking after the tarty ones amongst you and the new clothing brand, Navitas Apparel, will be catering for any outfitting requirements!
Keep your eyes peeled for some incredible offers on a whole host of Mainline products too as we need to make a little extra space in-store as we enter the new season, these'll be posted from time to time on both the website and BOTH our Facebook pages as well as obviously being advertised within the clubhouse to Anglers who're already fishing at Abbey.. Be warned these'll be solely on a first come - first served basis so be sure not to miss out!!
The one thing we're not going to proceed with (in the immediate future) is the Baitboat hire program so please be aware that you'll need to make alternative arrangements in the UK prior to travelling across if you don't already possess one? Like I say, this is a temporary notice and once we have a little less on our plates regards keeping Abbey at the top of the tree I'm sure we'll have a little more time to sit down and find a way to provide this service once again..
T-7 days people, look forward to seeing some of you on the bank again very soon,
Ru
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In reply to Post #261
Hi
Ye mate brilliant place , not fished in march always gone in April .
Hope the weather is gona be ok for us?
Also on heron will see u there then !
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In reply to Post #260
Hi mate, I am there on the 15th for 4 days on Heron. Have you been there before?
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Not long now 15th march will be on the bank !
Anyone else out there then ?
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In reply to Post #258
@ Mowgli, it'd be good to finally meet up fella. Let me know when u might be free and I'll see what I can do....
@ Ken, we've just changed the bloody menu cos it wasn't English enough, b*ggered if I'm changing it back again now
PS By 'English' I mean.. Chinese, Thai, Curry, that sort of stuff
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In reply to Post #256
I am looking forward to frog's legs, snails, bouillabaisse and moules mariniere...
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Hope I get out there this year, the place sounds like it's going from strength to strength
No thanks to you Ru, of course.
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In reply to Post #255
PS The new menu is up on both the Abbeylakes FB profile and also on the home page of the website now! Hope you all like what's on offer, it's cost me 2 holes on my belt doing a rigorous week of shakedown tests and although it's not the norm we felt it was time to give people something other than pie'n'chips, jacket spuds n beans and/or chilli con carnes and spag bol!!
Just over a month away from the new season and it's all falling into place, it's gonna be a good one
Ru
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In reply to Post #253
Hi Swampus,
My bad I'm afraid, I pulled the info on Fox as I needed some of the text for the new website! If you go to www.abbeylakes.co.uk and click the lakes link on the left of the home page you'll find all you need to know. It starts with an overview of the lake and it's stock and then if you click on the two further links at the bottom of the page you'll run through some tactics and tips that I hope you'll find useful? There's absolutely nothing groundbreaking I'm afraid, just stuff I found helped while I worked here as a Bailiff two seasons ago..
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #250
Look forward to seeing you and all the new changes in march .
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Just read through the thread some very interesting stuff there. However at the risk of appearing stupid or being a right pain I wasn't able to find the swim guide for fox lake. Have I over looked it, does such a thing exist some where else or am I being stupid and a pain lol.
Any pointers, info welcome and gratefully received. 
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In reply to Post #251
Read this thread...ru12 has written chapter and verse about Abbey so start from the beginning of the thread and enjoy!
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In reply to Post #250
hi and first of all thanks to mike for pointing me to this thread and thanks to ru for the info on fox lake.
i'm really looking forward to my trip to fox in july as its my first visit to the abbey complex, which in turn sort of explains why i'm on a homework mission for fox lake!
i'm looking to find out all the info I can such as;
swims to avoid and swims that are favoured,
hot spots, features to look for.
best type of pellet, particle to use etc.
I understand some of this may be written elsewhere so I will have to have a good look round. im a newbie to the forum so hello to all and look forward to chatting with you
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In reply to Post #249
Good evening all, long time no speak!
Just a quick post to let you all know that I am currently sat in the Abbey clubhouse whiling away the hours preparing all manner of treats for you for the coming 2013/14 season!
Firstly and not before time I guess : We will shortly announce a Food package option which will begin on the 15th March this year. There will be a host of options, full English breakfasts only, dinner and dessert only or the full monty for the chubs out there For those that aren't too keen on the menu, there will still be options like a pizza or burger and chips! The staff are going to give the menu a shakedown test at lunchtime tomorrow so keep your eyes peeled for details on here, Facebook or the .co.uk website!
Secondly : We are now in possession of a serious quantity of Mainline freezer baits!! We're going to try and maintain a stock of 500kg at all times (Cell/Activ-8/New grange - all in 18mm) but just in case we are going to be running a pre-order system so that you/we can guarantee it'll be freshly boxed and ready in time for the morning of your arrival! This will take the sting out of carrying it from A to B both in terms of keeping it fresh, for those of you on a long journey and also, it'll save on space for those that bring the proverbial sink! Once more, keep your eye out for further details such as prices and payment details in the next few days!
Thirdly : Although we still haven't decided where the shiny new Clubhouse is going to be situated, we thought we'd get the Tackle shop sorted in readiness! I have got some lovely treats in stock from all the best UK companies I could think of plus a few from warmer climes too A catalogue detailing exactly what's here will be available online shortly on the .co.uk site and you'll be able to pre-order bits 'n' pieces with the same method as the bait and collect the whole lot from the check-in desk upon arrival.. Simples!
We are also ressurecting our Baitboat hire offer this season!! There will be a small fleet of (5) Angling Technics' Microcat III's available from the clubhouse so if you don't posess one, keep your fingers and toes crossed that there is a fallback option for you when you arrive! These will be run on a first come first served basis and will require a substantial deposit that is of course fully refundable.... Should you treat the boat as your own!!
Finally : Maybe and it's a BIG maybe at the moment, some of the banks may look a little different by the time the first of you arrive, especially those on Fox lake.. Watch this space..
I look forward to seeing some/all of you during the coming season,
Tight lines,
Ru
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In reply to Post #247
Yes.
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In reply to Post #247
Ive fished fox two years running in early april shoulders came out whilst i was there fishes really well if thats any help.
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In reply to Post #246
Anyone fished heron late march / early april?
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In reply to Post #245
Never did get any response from Angling International regarding a refund!! I paid my holiday in full and due to personal circumstances I had to miss out. I contacted them on 3 separate occasions to see if I was eligible for any kind of refund, or for them to at least tell me I am a dreamer and to do one! Never heard a word!
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In reply to Post #244
Hi all,
As most of you are probably aware by now, Angling International are no longer the UK booking agent for Abbey and as a result there is some confusion regards who / where you need to turn to get in touch when booking a holiday..
Bookings are now being taken DIRECT at the Clubhouse so please try and get in touch using the following contact details :
Address : Les Etangs de l'Abbaye, Longueil Sainte Marie, 60126, France
Telephone : (00) 33 344 380 866
Email : info@abbeylakes.com
There is also an all new website which went live this week and despite the fact it is still a work in progress, you should be able to find everything you need to know on the complex within it! I have tried to expand on all the info I had initially posted on CarpForum by also incorporating some tactical / tips advice too, you can also see photos of some of the best fish that Abbey has to offer within the 'most wanted' section plus loads more that I'm not at liberty to discuss on here! You can access this by either typing in www.abbeylakes.co.uk or by clicking the union jack on the opening page of the .com site....
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #236
Hi mate,
There is a small saving to be had, the price is being set at £315 per week for the 2013 season and we'll review it accordingly at the end of next year to keep it in line with current exchange rates as time moves on!
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #242
Hi Ru
Have replied mate speak soon.
Cheers Tim
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In reply to Post #238
@ Tim :
That's a helluva result mate, far better numbers than last year! Shame Shoulders didn't put in the usual appearance but it was close, 3 weeks!!
Glad the number of 40's was way up and yep, it'll be good to see you all again in 2013
Have sent you y private email address fella, still got some pics for you to approve for the next Forces classic logo / tees n hoodies if you're interested?!
Chat soon matey
Ru
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In reply to Post #239
@ Wardy,
Feel free to PM me on Facebook mate, always happy to help if I can?!
There will also be loads of tips n tactical info available on the all new Abbey website (.co.uk) which'll be going live in the next week or so and also a small printed guide I'm preparing with a map for every peg at Abbey that'll be available from the Clubhouse and/or Tackle shop next season!
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #239
@ Glenn B.. Shhhh about the pylon
@ everyone else, can't wait to get back on-site for the coming season! I am now Abbey's media and marketing Manager so look forward to seeing a few of you through the year depending on my commitments in the office lol!
A quick update for you all : Rob Hughes is currently at Abbey with most of the Fox International mob plus a few close pals to celebrate his (50th) birthday and take part in the annual 'Abbey challenge'
Shoulders was caught last night at just over 84lb (38.250kg) and became a new World record for a Carp caught by a lady, Dutch woman Lizette Beunders taking all the glory this time!
Aside from that, a few of the guys have caught a Carp or two with Tom Maker heading the rankings in terms of numbers and biggest fish. After 24hrs he's on 19 fish with numerous upper 30's and 2x 40's including a 46.14 from Attila.... Told you all this was the one to watch
Until next time,
Tight lines
R
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In reply to Post #232
Hi. Am new to the forum, however not to Fishing...
Am making the journey out to Abbey next year over the Easter wkend with a couple of mates and to say we are buzzing is a understatement!!
We are all booked to fish Fox lake and since the booking i havent stopped watching videos posted on YouTube or Abbey FB page. I cannot wait!!
Ru, you wil be around during March/April nxt year as i'm sure we wil certianly be looking to pick your brains for advice and tips
Wardy
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In reply to Post #237
Guys
Just in case you wanted to know the results from this years Forces Carp Classic were as follows:
Total Fish. 171 x Carp / 1 x Catfish
Total Weights 4864:12 for the carp / 140+ for the catfish (Overall total 5004lbs...!!!)
23 x doubles
78 x 20lbs
55 x 30lbs
13 x 40lbs
1 x 50lbs
1 x 60lbs
No shoulders this year (bummer) just "Humpy" from Fox at 66lbs.
The lakes themselves were as follows:
Attila - 66 x carp for 1705.14 with a top weight of 853.12 for Chris Seelay & Andy Moore - PURSUIT BAITS
Heron - 18 x carp for 555.11 with a top weight of 277.09 for Tom Jackson & Tom Huff - PURSUIT BAITS
Fox - 23 x carp for 732.02 with a top weight of 214.02 for Tim Broughton & Ben Sercombe - NAVY
Kingfisher - 64 x carp for 1871.01 with a top weight of 939.15 for Glen Beardsall & Carl Hoyle - RAF
Biggest Mirror - 66lbs for Tim Broughton
Biggest Common - 48lbs for Tom Jackson
FCC Champions (Pairs) - Glen & Carl
FCC Champions (Team) - PURSUIT BAITS
Charity Money raised £661.00 for GOSH
In total 24 of the 36 pairs caught and I think everyone had a great time as most are booked in for next year as well. In fact we have 32 booked in already for next years event still at Abbey (see you there Ru) and again in October.
If you are in: Armed Forces or Ex Forces / Fire Brigade / Police / Ambulance Services you can enter as well. Send a pm for an Intro Letter & Entry form and we will see you there.
I havent put peg number on simply because we use different ones for the event but if you want to know just ask???
Cheers Tim
Forces Carp Classic
Co-Organiser
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In reply to Post #235
Nice 1 mate, sounds like you had a good week.
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In reply to Post #232
Is the price coming down now bookings direct ?
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In reply to Post #233
Hi Mate,
The spot inline with the pylon to the right was great advice thanks!!
We fished 3 nights on Kingfisher and had a 28, 48, 38, 37 and 26 which was not bad considering you boys caught every fish in the lake the previous week
After 3 nights the trains started to affect me because we were getting takes in the night so we all decided a move to Attila was best.
I fished peg 3 and the other two fished peg 4 as there was a nice SW banging down there. Within 1 hour of getting the baits out in peg 3 i had landed 3 three thirties, 37,37.5 and 36. Had to use my waders to land them though which was fun! Peg 4 took a little bit more time to come on but when it did WOW! My mate had about 400lb worth of carp in 48 hours. As he was bringing in his last rod he was greeted with a lovely 45lb mirror. (lucky git)
Great complex. Considering the winter ticket.
Thanks again for the advice.
Steve.
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In reply to Post #232
Many thanks for the reply.
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In reply to Post #230
Stephen,
I take it you were the lads that moved in behind us?
If so did those spots produce.
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In reply to Post #227
Sorry fella, I was THERE when u asked the question, wasn't being rude!
Looks like the others have covered it, Abbey's owners feel it is fairer to operate a first come, first served basis on the swims instead of the lottery of a draw, so rock up at 6am (ish), have a swift wander around on foot (u won't be able to drive round until u are checked in at 8am) and see what's occuring and then form an orderly queue at the Clubhouse to get booked in asap when the doors open!
Hans the Bailiff should help u with any further info u require and I'll be back in residence from jan 2013 as Media and Marketing Manager so u should find me lazing around on the bank somewhere should u need an English take on all things Abbey?!
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #230
Thanks for the replies fellas.
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In reply to Post #228
No draw for swims mate. You are spoilt for choice with all the lakes though tbh!
Just turn up on the day you have booked and have a look what is free. We were lucky when we went couple of weeks ago as the whole complex was booked for the Forces Carp Classic which gave us the whole complex to choose from at the end of the event!.
We just spoke to the anglers that were fishing who were all very helpful!
We ended up on Kingfisher which is a mega lake for the carp, apart from the 190 mile trains 100ft behind you !
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In reply to Post #228
It has been a while since I went but you turn up, check in at the lodge then find a swim. Unlike most French lakes I have fished, people come and go at different times, rather than 10 am on the Saturday
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In reply to Post #227
Any regulars help with my question ?
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In reply to Post #226
Ru
Is there a draw for swims or is it a case of turn up and pick what you fancy from what is available or do you have to pre-book a swim ?
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In reply to Post #225
PS Just checked the pics. The 'Unknown' Mirror was 56.08 and came from the point aka Peg 19!
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In reply to Post #224
Now now Tom,
You know the rules for the FCC.... No cheating or swotting up beforehand, just get there, get on n deal with the draw LOL!!
Top end of Heron has been producing a fair few recently but once again you're following the Swedes and they're rinsing Heron I think?!
White Tips came from 12 along with a load more fish last week. Marshy (Rob not Russ ) had bagged a few from 11 this week but has now moved to pastures new and Anders (the Swedish booking agent) bagged the 'Unknown' mirror at 57+ from 9-11 ish (didn't look at the pics properly!)
Been very mild but WET the past 7 days so don't over feed them as they're not ready yet!
Regards,
R
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In reply to Post #223
am down next week any news on lakes and swims that are producing the fish? weather looks very carpy!!
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In reply to Post #222
Booked on Heron in a couple of weeks time, any updates on how its fishing?
Any helpfulful info would be great..
Cheers...
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In reply to Post #221
Great shout fella, can't believe it skipped my mind to have a Roast at the weekends!
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In reply to Post #220
How about on a Sunday......roast beef and Yorkshire pudding?
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In reply to Post #219
Hi everyone,
I know the thread isn't quite as busy as usual at this time of year but I have been asked to gauge just exactly what sort of grub everyone'd like to see on the menu at Abbey next season..
So.. In light of the fact that we now have access to a head Chef and a fully staffed kitchen in the new on-site Restaurant, I would like to start a poll to vote in a completely new menu! Sebastien, the owner, wants to offer you all a mix of both French and English cuisine so that you can experience local produce from the region alongside some traditional fare?! I have based mine upon my preferred grub while bankside!
Mon - Chicken Curry with Bombay Potatoes and either Pilau Rice or Chips
Tue - Spaghetti Bolognaise with Garlic Baguette
Wed - Chilli Con Carne and Rice
Thu - Sausage, Mashed Potato, Onions and thick Gravy
Fri - OBVIOUSLY is Fish and Chips night
Sat - Dine in the Restaurant
Sun - Beer, Chocolate and Crisps!!
PLEASE let me know all your thoughts people, as ever Abbey are striving to keep on top of their game and offer you a holiday 'your way'
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #218
I am also going to the forces carp classic event second year running! amazing complex!
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In reply to Post #217
You can go where you like if there not fully booked up, just talk to the baliff when you arrive on site...
They usually let you know what's happening and point you in the right direction
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In reply to Post #216
cheers mate were booked on fox so i take it we can only go on there?
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In reply to Post #215
It's what's available mate....
There isn't a changeover date at Abbey so when you turn up you have a look and decided where you fancy.
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In reply to Post #214
im out there next week is there a draw or is it first come first served for swims?
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In reply to Post #211
off to abbey next month for the forces carp classic comp ,first time at this venue looking forward to it
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In reply to Post #212
Cheers RU, out there week after next can't wait especially with Autumn feeling like it's on it's way!
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Cheers RU. Much appreciated.
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In reply to Post #209
@ CarpyClarkey
NO RULES regarding the use of leaders at Abbey. Leadcore or a similar alternative (i.e Solar's Unleaded) is probably your best bet as it's far more abrasion resistant than some of those dodgy (only in my humble opinion!) rubbery, plastic jobbies which don't stand up to too much rubbing in the dense weedbeds on the Complex. There isn't too much else to worry about there though, there are no true snags to speak of (they were removed many moons ago) and the only proper Mussel bed I can think of is between Pegs 3 and 4 on Attila
Steer clear of the 'naked' fluoro approach though.. Asking for trouble, especially with the size of those fish!!
Hope that's helped
Ru
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In reply to Post #208
ALL the lakes tend to fish very well during the cooler months as they are far deeper than the average French waters and therefore hold their temperature for a while longer than most. This means that the 'winter feed' period once the temps are around 7-8C lasts well into JANUARY.... If the past few year's VIP ticket records are anything to go by!
If you're after a steady stream of 40+ fish I would recommend Fox lake, if you're willing to tough it out for a winter whacker then look for the deeper areas and/or thickest weedbeds on Heron. Attila is another that's always well worth a shout as even when everywhere else is shutting down, the Carp in there'll feed and feed and feed some more!! They're not of the same stamp (yet!) but with an average weight of 28-33lb and an awful lot of 40's, it's definitely worth a shout, especially if you're trying to save a blank on either of the other main lakes or just want to bag up while everyone else is sat at home dying of x-factor boredom lol!
Finally, can't recommend P5 on Kingfisher lake enough.. It produced well over 75 fish to a whole bunch of us during late december and the first week of january this year. It pays to fish short and just feed little and often to keep the Carp in the area.
Regards,
Ru
PS On the BACK of the wind!!!! Except on Fox where they'll be in all the corners
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In reply to Post #208
What are the rules regarding leaders at Abbey? I can't find anything on the website,
Cheers
Harry
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Gents
I was just looking to gain a little info on the lakes. I'm going for a week next month. Has anybody got any idea which of the lakes predominately fishes the best during the autumn months? Do the carp have a tendency to sit on the front or the back of the wind as it gets colder?
Cheers!!!!
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In reply to Post #206
Hi everyone,
Just to let you all know that anyone wishing to book a trip over to Abbey or enquire about the Complex will have to wait until this coming Thursday at the earliest, as Ian (owner of Angling International) is currently recuperating after an operation in hospital!
Many thanks,
Ru
PS Nimmo is right, spodding is a no-no on Fox.... Unless u like to just chill in the sunshine for the first 48-72hrs of your visit and only catch fish during the last 3 days
PPS Heron, Attila n Kingfisher maps'll be available very shortly!!!!
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In reply to Post #205
Without a doubt no,no,no,no,no,no, no,no,no
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In reply to Post #204
Hi mate, off for my first visit earlyish next year, am I right in thinking spodding on fox is a no-no?
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In reply to Post #203
Hi mate,
Heron's started to fish really well after being a bit slow at the tail end of August.. Fox has been fishing very well for quite a while now, as has Attila. Kingfisher has also produced some lovely fish up to mid / upper 40's to those that have targeted them.
Best take a good quality (sleeping) bag with you though, day time temps are still fairly high but it's been a tad chilly at night!
Aside from that.. Scroll down to find all you should (ever) need to know about the Complex, it's not rocket science matey, just approach it exactly as you would your regular UK water(s) but with big hooks and strong line!
I defo wouldn't use Fluorocarbon and I'm not a fan of Braid as despite all it's plusses, it has some quite serious cons too!
You shouldn't have to cast or 'boat your baits out more than 95yds from any swim on Heron either, so a decent standard UK set up will suffice too..
Regards,
Ru
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Hi all,
Fishing heron at Abbey lakes soon.. Just wanted to find out if anyone knows how its been fishing lately?
Also, from your previous experience on heron.. What worked for you and what didn't?
If you have any tips or advise to help me on heron or fox and are happy to share them, then please let me know and it will be very much appreciated!
Tight lines,
AB
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In reply to Post #200
Yeah nice one Ru. As soon as things are clearer I will plan something and deffo come an have a beer and a fish mate!
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In reply to Post #200
@ BillyJ,
Better luck next time chap! And.. Nice to hear some positives about Hans for a change, he's trying his hardest but it takes time to build up a knowledge of any venue and Abbey has 5 (fair sized) lakes to learn about!! Not sure he'll ever work out how the ovens work though, lol, but if you'd sampled my grub then you'd probably be pretty chuffed he was manning the kitchen nowadays
Ru
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In reply to Post #198
@ Mowgli,
Bummer!! Glad to hear she's on the mend now though! Like you say, they'll wait for you, s'only fishing at the end of the day!! I may well be over there a fair bit during Nov, Dec n January on the winter ticket, so gimme a heads up when you're thinking of rearranging and maybe we can have a bit of a social as there's a good crowd on when it's quieter over there!
Take care fella,
Ru
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In reply to Post #198
Sorry guys problems with my computer in the last couple of days.
We fished peg 9 from friday 7th to monday. It looked great for a bite on the friday when we arrived and the weedbed to the right hand side was fizzing away all through the evening, however i had a couple of single bleeps during the night but no solid takes.
The rest of our stay produced two takes but lost both fish in the weed! Most of the fish were sulking around the corner from 11-14 in my opinion as the rest of the lake had a fair amount of pressure from all angles, only one guy on his own was fishing round the corner and he rested his swim in the day (good angling!). It was a strange few days as me and my friend decided to fish together but in hindsight i think we may have had too many lines in the water (even though we rested the peg everyday from 1pm to 4.30pm).
Although we didnt manage a fish i still absolutely loved the lake and am itching to get back as soon as possible, hoping maybe to pop out for a couple of days in October if i get the chance! The staff (esp the baliff) were fantastic and all of the guys we met around the lake were very helpful and friendly.
Cant recommend the place enough, fantastic venue that i will definietly be visiting agin in the very near future!
all the best and tight lines
Billy
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In reply to Post #197
Not bad Ru, you?
I am meant to be on Heron now, but unfortunately, a few weeks after paying the balance my Girlfriend became ill, so obviously, things like Carp have to take a bak seat! Some things are just that bit more important! Good news is she's doing great so thts the main thing. And it least I never went to the expense of buying loads of bait to end up leaving it in the shed!
All being well, I think I'll try and get out there in Novemeber for a few days at least.
The guys I was going with are in Peg 16. I believe they've had a few to 45 (common)
Maybe Shoulders will wait until nov for me!!
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In reply to Post #196
Hi mate,
You well?!
Fox has been fishing it's bits off lately. Heron was very slow but has picked up over the past 10 days or so as far as I can make out? There was a post below from Billy that has now disappeared?? Think they had it a bit tough from P9 but a lot of the fish on that bank seem to have been coming from under the rod tips!!.. and I mean UNDER 'em!! If anyone reads this and gets their hands on Heron 9, do NOT ignore the 2 trees, 1 either side of the swim and fish a rod under each It's plenty deep enough a rod length out, 7-9ft and there's a hole under the branches of each that'll do fish from now until mid November!
Attila has been fishing very well for those willing to put in the effort and spod a lump of bait in! Same old, same old on there really, if you feed them, they'll stay around and you can bag up, if you get bored or can't be ar*ed, they'll just swim off n find someone else willing to put on a spread lol! Plenty of low - mid 30's being reported with a handful of 40's too!!
R
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In reply to Post #193
That would be www.baitboats4hire.co.uk Rupert!
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In reply to Post #192
Hi Rob,
Not any more I'm afraid, the costs to repair v deposits taken argument just didn't weigh up in the long run  Having said that, there are a few chaps over here who do a short term loan service.... Just make sure you choose carefully!!!! I was at Abbey last weekend and 2 guys there were up a creek because the one they had got from Kent somewhere didn't work!!!! The dude who'd rented it then spent an hour on the phone explaining they were gonna lose their deposit plus incur all the additional costs necessary to fix it rather than offer a solution himself?!?! Pleasant!
You could try Jay Folly though, I don't know him personally and he's a West ham fan so not sure I want too LOL but he has a good reputation and his contact details can be found on Facebook!
Hope that helps?
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #191
Hi Ru,
Do Abbey hire out bait boats ? just that my mate wants to hire one when we go !
Rob
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In reply to Post #190
Just got back from Abbey after a swift 72hr social visit and thought I'd let you all know that after a slow fortnight on Heron, the whole Complex has started to fish it's bits off!
Nearly all (9 of the 13 I spoke to) of the guys fishing on Fox had managed to bag a Carp over 40lb this weekend as well as some cracking mid and upper 30's!
As I understand it, Heron had been tough going recently but a couple of lads from Leicester were popping their French cherries along with their mate, Paul Hughes and they'd managed the best of both worlds.. Gary was hauling from peg 11 and I think I'm right in saying had banked at least 8 Carp by the time I left this afternoon (they arrived on Saturday), while his friend had back to back 50's (including the Grey lady) by doing something very clever and not fishing at the maximum available range like everyone else.. These came from right under the tips after he'd spotted a couple of little holes in the weed and primed them for 24hrs before dropping a bait on each, top dangling!
Due to the fact it was more of a social event for me, I hadn't bothered to check the availabilites beforehand (but still took a rod or 3 just in case!!) and was a bit p*ssed off to find out that both the main lakes were full so settled down for a few hours on Attila. It turned out to only be a few as well due to the fact I hadn't packed the front to my Brolly system and after enduring about 30 Mozzie bites between 8pm and 2am, I reeled in n kipped in the car.... Still managed 5 Mirrors of 24.02, 28.10, 31.00, 32.04 and 34.08, going to show that if it's regular action from a quality stamp of fish you're after, Attila is improving month by month and is well worth considering if you don't want to tough it out for a proper big 'un on your holidays?!
Aside from that, Kingfisher is fishing well with the chap on peg 5 having a cracking run of Carp up to mid 40's and a couple of token Catfish to 55lb too!
Don't miss out on the fantastic food available at the brand new Restaurant which is now open either, I recommend packing a change of (smart) clothes for it!
And finally, I can't believe anybody's taken the time out of their life to come on here and say the Complex is weedy this year?? There's less growth anywhere, including in the margins, than I have seen at Abbey since 2008.. Boats ARE still allowed but are definitely NOT necessary people, just tackle up and prepare accordingly (i.e not with 12lb Fluoro and 1oz leads that aren't heavy enough to drop off on the take!!) and you'll have no problems whatsoever.. I'd go so far as to say that I struggled to find any worthwhile weedbeds to fish to?
I shall try and have a natter with Hans on a more regular basis so I can keep you all posted with catch reports and any other news as it happens. Tight lines,
Ru
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In reply to Post #189
Hi Billy,
I'm far from the star man here (although I am flattered by the comment LOL), I just happen to have wasted a vast amount of my life fishing over there!
I'd aim to take 1kg of Boilie per Rod, per Day and double that of Pellet! You shouldn't go far wrong with that amount? If you're a Particle man then I can also recommend that a decent splodge of Partiblend / Red band around each bait wouldn't hurt. The Red band is useful in particular as it requires very little preparation and also seems to keep better in the heat than some other bits, like Maize.
Regards what sort of Boilie to take, you'd be a fool not to consider something from Mainline, in particular the Cell and Activ-8, which have gone into the all the lakes on the Complex in vast amounts over the past couple of seasons! Their Mark One has also been responsible for some big hits of fish over the past 12 months by people lucky enough to be able to get their hands on it
Failing that, any quality food bait from Companies such as Baitcraft will see you right. Their Super K was behind one of the greatest catch reports ever seen by a single Angler (on Heron lake) last December!
As for Rigs, this is a personal one and I'd suggest sticking to your guns here and using whatever you're happy with at home BUT with the addition of MUCH bigger hooks! I only use size 4's when my 2's have run out!!!!
Mine are constructed from 8" of RigMarole's 25lb (camo) Hydrolink, I strip the FluoroCarbon out from inside it leaving a 7ish" stiff boom and a 1" hinge (a la Combi rig) before the hook, attach a Fox Line aligna (I'm too lazy to carry a kettle just for steaming Shrink tube lol) and a heavy Korda sinker just where the stiff part of the rig meets the soft, so that it all sits nice and tight to the Lakebed! At the top end I simply tie a Figure of 8 knot and add a Fox Anti-tangle sleeve to cover the Kwik change Swivel.. Very basic (and probably nowhere near good enough for some of the Jimmy Saville brigade) but strong as hell and has never let me down! I use either Fox XSC, SSSP or Atomic Grabba hooks in a size 2, it's nothing to do with French fish having bigger mouths, simply that a) They are bonier than those of UK fish due in part to some of their diet consisting of 8-12" Crayfish and b) I feel that due to the extra size and additional gauge of the wire in these hooks, they are heavier and therefore, drop into the bottom of the mouth far quicker.... Providing there is sufficient separation from the bait.... My hairs are normally between 1-2" long!!
Hope that's helped you out a bit, if there's anything else, just sift through the early parts of this thread and I'm sure you'll find all you need to know!
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #188
Ru seems like the most in demand man on the whole forum!!
Would like some advice on bait quantity needed for a four day trip, any advice would be great but if the star man RU could comment it would make me feel a whole lot better lol..
Rig wise i am thinking bigger hooks/ hooklinks for this trip, 25lb coated on a size 4 curve shank fished 'KD' style in going to the order of the day for me.. sound ok or maybe go larger?
thanks again guys
Bill
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In reply to Post #187
I went in April and it was imperative then, god only knows what the weed is like now.
Do not go without a dinghy.
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Hi Ru
Any recent weed updates on Heron. How imperative is it going to be to have a boat to land fish?
Much been coming out?
Cheers
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In reply to Post #185
Hi mate..
Best tip for fishing 19 is.... Don't rush in there without having a bloody good look elsewhere first! Fish aren't (always) in residence round there at that time of year. Far better to attack the front right hand side of the island from 9, or get in 11, 12, 13 or 14. Again, 14 is a honey trap for bods due to the 'amount of fish it produces' BUT everything is relative and if u stack up what the rest of the lake produces during the course of a season then I'd only ever get in there if the water is cloudy if it's gin clear then swerve that one n all!! A dark horse for early season is 23, especially if there's a strong (and WARM) SW blowing!
Check waaaay back on this thread for a more informative run through of all the pegs on Heron and if u ask nicely, hopefully some swim maps for the lake along with some for Kingfisher and Attila within a fortnight, work permitting....
Regards,
Ru
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hi all i am new to this. i have just booked to fish heron next year in april any tips on the point swims if possible. i had a walk round it this year and i think its a nice swim just hope i can get on it next year. cheers guys
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In reply to Post #183
any updates on the lakes guys?
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In reply to Post #182
ive only fished abbey twice but always baited heavy fished fox 3 years ago landed 63 carp over 280kg of bait fished heron in may this year every 1 said there not having it dont put much bait out i used close to 200kg landed 17 carp couple of mid 50s including single scale so i think worth taking plenty of particals can always bring it home
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I was booked on to heron but when we got there it was really packed, I decided to do 3 nights on Attila and had 16 fish to 34lb then move to fox for 2 nights as there was space and managed 1 nice mirror jus over 30 but it's full of cray fish as well, I did my final 2 nights in peg 2 on heron and managed a mid 30 common, I used my boat and fished bout 2kg pellet and boilie, only managed 1 fish from there but had 5 30's from 3 of the lakes, would of loved a 40 but who wouldn't, hope u guys do well,
RU on here will pretty much tell u anything u want to know, listen to him he knows the lakes as much as any one
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In reply to Post #180
Iggy how many did you manage last year and how long were you there for? We arrive on the 7th of Sept for four days, i have a rowing boat and bait boated already sorted (thank god).
Did you fill it in with bait, i have been told to fish 3-4kg of pellet and boilie over each rod and top it up after every fish.. pretty standard i think.
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In reply to Post #179
Good advice
Theres no way on earth I woud've landed that fish without a boat!!!
Good luck Gents
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I fished heron last September. Ur rods will be fine just make sure u drop the lead so the fish r up, the weed was bad but mainly a massive bank in the margins, the top end was little worse. Bait boats handy but not a must. I'd say a rowin boat is more needed if there allowed this year for gettin fish out the weed
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I fished heron last September. Ur rods will be fine just make sure u drop the lead so the fish r up, the weed was bad but mainly a massive bank in the margins, the top end was little worse. Bait boats handy but not a must. I'd say a rowin boat is more needed if there allowed this year for gettin fish out the weed
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In reply to Post #176
Morning guys,
Heading over to Abbey (Heron) in september with a friend and have a couple of questions for the abbey experts..
I currently use the harrison ballista slims 12ft 2.75 (which i love) but am having concerns regarding the power of these rods after hearing about the weed problems on Heron. Will an upgrade be required?
Also i have access to a bait boat (best friend) with an ECHO on board, would you guys reccomend taking this again due to the weed on Heron?
Thanks again
Billy
P.s the fully scaled in the pic below is a beaut!
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In reply to Post #173
Thanks Ru
Just came back from 3 nights on Fox peg 1, then Heron peg 23 then Fox peg 10.......struggled but managed a 42 fully scaled animal.....tore me up and down and round and round the Fox whilst wiping out several other lines! insane fish but truly stunning....will get a pic up soon
Ended up with 4 but ran out of time and they seemed to be sulking from the hiding they've had recently......met a few sound Guys notably John from Chesire.....a Guy called Ali Hamidi and someone else called Jamie O'hara.....answers on a post card lol
PS Thanks to Hans for everything and apologies to Seb.....I'll mail you Mate
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In reply to Post #172
Hi Jez,
Both Heron and Fox are fishing their bits off over the past month or so!! Blows my 5-10 Carp a week is good theory out of the window as the current average seems to be nearer 20 a piece on the 2 main lakes! The bigguns all seem to be laying low now, although White tips n the Grey lady came out of Heron late last month. I think 'tips was 60+ again which is nice as she's now a fully paid up member of that club, 5 of her past 6 captures are over the magic figure! My ol' mucker Lee (Merritt) had the Grey at 57.08 from Heron and then jumped on to Fox and bagged up, see AI's Facebook page for the pics.. Rob Hughes took a mate over and fished Fox too, they had a bag full as well! A guy called Kristian Ollington popped his Abbey cherry last weekend with 20 odd fish up to 42 in 3 days on Fox. Another mate of mine, John Sayers, did Heron with his mate Shrek the first week of June and they hammered it from 15/16, taking nearly 50 carp, biggest was Single scale at 54+.... The Dutch are flying (pardon the pun) over there lately too, I know Mario Taal, Yuri and Erik pors have all had some cracking fish, again, the pics can be found on the Facebook page..
That's about it as far as I'm aware, I'm no longer involved with Ian so just hear dribs n drabs as they happen from a few close friends. In truth been sticking my head in the sand as I'm gagging to get back over there but haven't got the time right now so trying to ignore everyone else's success lol!!
Regards
Ru
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Any recent updates Gents?
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In reply to Post #170
No problems fella..
Just another quick update for you all, Jason Brain has just returned from his week on Heron and has kindly written up a little piece for us which can be found to begin with on the Angling International FB page and a little later on our website inc. pics.. I won't spoil it too much but he did have back2back 50's!
On that note, I am currently trying to keep abreast of what's what at Abbey and if any of you want up to the minute info on goings on over there then you should now be able to find the latest catch reports, weather checks, pictures and a few extra tips n suggestions as well as the stuff I previously wrote on here on the same Facebook page, my apologies but rather than write everything in triplicate it's easier just to put it up on there as we have a worldwide audience!
Ian and I are trying to take Angling International to the next level now and provide a service that no other holiday company currently does....
We have just released a range of custom built rods that are probably the very best available in the UK right now (even though I say so myself lol), these are however designed with very specific uses in mind and each individual rod serves a purpose, so it's best to discuss your needs with us directly before deciding which one may suit you! We are also seeking to promote the VDrone range of bait boats within the UK market further, so keep your eyes peeled for their latest (baby) offering when it hits the shelves in the near future. Alongside all of this expect to see 2x dedicated rig packs for Abbey, these will contain all the necessary bits'n'bobs to construct the rigs that our friends and us have found so successful over the past 12 years, some crafty hookbaits aimed at tackling the crays in Fox lake, a dedicated bait range that's exclusive to AI and designed specifically with the Abbey fish in mind and 1 or 2 other tarty bits, watch this space.... On the Facebook page obviously!
Regards,
Ru
PS There will also be a monthly competition starting shortly and in return for your catch reports, pics and short stories, we will be awarding a prize based on what we feel is the month's most deserving capture. This doesn't necessarily mean the biggest fish either, at this time of year a good haul of smaller fish can be seen as a serious achievement and anybody catching Bruno will probably get my vote! Prizes for this will vary month to month but shall probably be 5-10kg of pellet, a goody bag of end tackle or a free food package for your next visit, etc.... Tight lines!
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In reply to Post #169
just added you on facebook mate. hope you don't mind! cheers mate,
Andre
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In reply to Post #168
ah so they are cannibals as well! Greedy little ****ers pmsl
Cheers
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In reply to Post #167
I'm sure Crays would be the ultimate bait for French carp.... If there weren't any other Crays in the lake
If you use them, best to make sure you wrap the bodies/tails in bait armour or something similar otherwise they'll be gone in 2 clicks of a pincer lol!!
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In reply to Post #166
Just saw your other post mate. Will def avoid those swims. I would have thought cray fish meat would be a good bait??
Andre
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In reply to Post #164
Hi Rupert. Thanks ever so much for the great help. It will definately help and hopefully put a few fish on the bank.
Cheers very much mate.
Andre
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In reply to Post #164
PS There are only 2 spots in Heron where you'll get punished by the Crays and these are both worth avoiding like the plague during the hot weather! Handily the first spot is in the margins of the often empty Peg 7 by the reeds to your right hand side. The water here is very shallow compared to the rest of the complex, 3-6' as opposed to the usual 12-18' elsewhere. The second area is just off the end of the spit of land that makes up Pegs 15 and 16. You are no longer allowed to fish from the end of this but it is still possible to swing a sneaky rod 'round the corner' on to the gravel strip that runs past 2-3 rod lengths out in 7-9' of water.... DON'T BOTHER LOL.. Your 20 millers'll look like whittled down 4's in next to no time!!
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In reply to Post #163
Evening Andre,
Look further down this thread or jump on to the Angling International / Abbey Facebook pages and you'll find as comprehensive (swim by swim and tactical) a review of Heron as I'm prepared to give anyone lol! The one thing I can't comment on is how you approach them bait wise.. Some weeks they'll be troughing it, others they'll just want bits'n'pieces.. The age old addage that you can put it in but you can't take it out is a decent starter!
IF you're going to hump it in then I suggest that the bulk of your baiting over your spots is done with pellet and boilies are just scattered across the surrounding area.
Hope this helps?! Regards,
Rupert
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In reply to Post #162
Hi guys. Im fishing heron lakes in september and finding it daunting already. Can anyone give me any helpful hints and tips. Is it a water where the bait is humped in or is little and often the best option. Are crays a problem in heron? Any information would be really appreciated. cheers, Andre
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In reply to Post #161
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In reply to Post #154
Lovely fish there, mate,
...and I am loving the 'little legs' pix. 
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In reply to Post #154
Cheers norm
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In reply to Post #157
A up fella
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In reply to Post #154
Nice fish mate!!
What lake at abbey did you catch them?
Off there on thursday for 5days fishing heron this time just scanning forums to see how its fishing .
Every little bit of info when your off abroad helps fished fox last sept was a bit slow , but 3other mates fished heron and had a great week one had bruno out bottomed his scales out at 60lb didn't realise until the morning ( gutted) and got labeled noddy john by Rupert(ru12 forum member).
Any tips ????? Cheers Jallen
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In reply to Post #153
alright steve,its andy,nicks mate.i was on the kingfisher, swim 1(red vivaro).nice fish them,did well considering the weed.i ended up with 9 up to 44 08.stunning carp.if i had a degree in astro physics i would put some photo's on here myself.......
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Nice one Steve.....stunning common mate....well in
pink popup! Blows my theory out the window lol
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In reply to Post #149
Hi Rupert
Hows things? Its a shame your not at abbey going back next week!
My name is jason i fished fox in sept last and my mate john (noddy john lol)and paul fished heron we had your cheerios loaded up and was looking foward to hassling you again !
Will you be going back? If so maybe we will see you again mate all the best
Jason
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In reply to Post #152
How do i upload a pic
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In reply to Post #150
single 14m pink pop up chod rig jez had to get wet to land it as pete onecup sleeps like a bear
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In reply to Post #150
A up jez its steve one cups mate who jumped in 11 after you we ended up with 11 fish between us with a few losses darn weed i had the big common at 54 lb so made up with that but i realy think the new bailiff hans need to get his **** together because his heads up his arse..
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In reply to Post #149
On my pellet rig
Well done Mate
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In reply to Post #148
Just joshin' too mate! It's getting more and more scenic as time goes by, give it another 5-10 years and once it's fully mature, there'll be no finer place to wet a line (on holiday, obviously lol)
PS Everyone, OneCup's mate has just bagged a stunning 54+ Common from heron!
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In reply to Post #147
I was just messing mate!!! Shoulders isn't the only reason I'm going there!! Last year I went to a lake that had 1 fish over 40 lb!! It's about the fishery first, and I picked abbey before I realised if be angling for an 80lber!!
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In reply to Post #146
If an upper 70 / low 80 doesn't float your boat chap then I think u could be in the wrong job lol! There should be about 10-12 others comfortably over 60 by that stage so sure you'll get over Shoulders' anorexia with them!
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Hmmm, I'm out there 2nd and 3rd week of Septemebr. Considering all you have mentioned, I'd calculate that to be right in the middle of her lean spell! Damn!
Oh well I'd say there's still more than enough to make me happy!
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In reply to Post #144
Indeed it would! Must be down to the mild nov-feb we had followed by the proper chilly mar-apr?!?! She's a big ol' girl now and needs to feed a lot after a lean spell! Bear in mind also that they'll all be packing it on in preparation for spawning in the near future!
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RE: Shoulders
So would that be three captures/hookings in the space of around the same amount of weeks?
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In reply to Post #142
One Cup n his mate are up and running! Peter has unfortunately lost a few but his mate is 3-1 up so they're certainly getting amongst them!!
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In reply to Post #139
Hi Gents....yes it was her, still feel shaky about the whole episode as I've been after her for many years and feel that was my chance and now it has gone but hey that's fishing......win some and lose some I suppose.
Anyway, Good luck to Onecup and his mate whom wisely jumped in behind me.......I'm pretty sure those pellet rigs are the key to success at the minute ie not a bleep on Boilies
Back in June for another few days and maybe some better luck
Hi Dan....you should've said hello mate....were you sitting on the sofa with a few mates?
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In reply to Post #140
@ Dan, check out the posts below, the swims are gonna be 'english-ified' during the winter period this year lol!
@ Jez.. Really?!?! Gutted for ya mate, that's a choker n no mistake!
@ Everyone else, please note that there are some full on technicolour pics (LOL) to accompany the text I wrote below, now available on the Angling International FB page. These will be added to their website in the very near future so all you need to do from now on is print off a stack for the lake of your choice before you head off on hols and (hopefully) you'll be sorted!
PS If anyone is interested, I will shortly be offering a guiding service for 3-7 day trips for 4 anglers over to Abbey. Prices are yet to be confirmed but will probably be negotiable to begin with, dependant on just how much of a b*tch you want me to be between landing your fish and taking photos lol!!
Please note this isn't a FULL guiding service as none of you can afford to pay me enough to cook for you n all, the grub'll be sorted either via the clubhouse or the new, on-site restaurant!
If you're interested, PM me here or please contact Ian at the Angling International office..
Kind regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #139
Bet there was loads out of peg 13 they love it in there what peg were you on i was on week before you.
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In reply to Post #138
Just got back from a week on Fox myself, had 10 fish up to 38 with 6 30's and 4 20's, i felt a tad unlcuky i didnt pick up a better fish....weather was pretty miserable all week and the fish were just stacked in a bay by 13....pleased with what i had but it was a grueller fishing in torrential rain, strong winds and the mud was awful....definitely need to board the front of the swims, i almost ended up in the lake on several occasions trying to net fish as you literally just slide down the bank to the water!
Jez: I think you may have been in the lodge when i was checking out this morning, didnt realise it was you and that you had been in 11...gutted for you mate!! Funny thing was i sat in that swim for an hour the day before you moved in there and i thought it looked good in there, almost asked if i could move onto heron as it feels alot more carpy than fox! Next time eh mate!
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In reply to Post #137
Shoulders?
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Just came back from a short trip in 11 and had 5 up to 42 but lost the biggun  Won't go into too much detail as I literally feel sick when I recall and replay events back but suffice to say I saw the biggun 6ft from the boat before the hook pulled...gutted is an understatement
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In reply to Post #135
Nice one all booked same week next year.
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In reply to Post #134
Was only pulling your leg Chris, don't get all emotional.. Seb never wanted Abbey to be a 'true' commercial venue in the style of les quis, dreamlakes, etc or that it should mimic many of our club/day ticket waters back home, HOWEVER, he does now want the work done on Fox so hopefully it'll look all prim and proper if/when u return in 2013>
Please bear in mind that it's his back garden so if he ever decided to stop the fishing there, he wants it to return au naturel asap and not have too many holes round the banks that require continuous upkeep long after we (and the $) have gone....
PS there won't be any hardcore involved, they're gonna be tastefully done lol.. Pics of the proposed stylee on my FB profile,
Regards
Ru
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In reply to Post #133
I dont expect to have to wear wellies every time it rains so slippery its all you can do to not slip over would at least be better if the swims were flat and had some hardcore put down bit of a claim waiting to happen if you ask me,the money that lake earns week in week out its not too much to ask to have a flat swim without mud up to your neck just needs some work thats all .swim 16 and 17 have been dug out but were full with its own paddling pool due to poor level and drainage.
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In reply to Post #130
RE The swims.. Watch this space after the close season this winter! I have a (builder) pal who is contemplating swapping some f.o.c fishing and cash in exchange for reconstructing the swims on fox. These will be levelled, boarded at the back and sides and quite possibly incorporate some steps (where required) and a novel bait boat launching/storing platform offset to one side at the front of each as well?!
PS How did you expect them to be? Mud is a natural occurence when rain and dirt mix
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In reply to Post #131
Another young lad on our trip had 26 fish off peg 18
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In reply to Post #130
Hold my hands up to Jez.. In my defence, I called the swim correctly lol! Congratulations Bosch, that's a haul by anyone's standards!!
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In reply to Post #129
Fox fished its tits off pity about the ****ty muddy swims they need some serious work and by the way shoulders came out twice at 80lb british boys in the back bay saw humpy from fox what a beast fish of a lifetime i would say personally i had 10 from fox up to 48.9.
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In reply to Post #128
Just got back from fox lake my friend had the awesome humpy at 66.13.
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mate,thats probably the best review of any lake-swims ive ever read......off to fish kingfisher for a week next friday(for carp)so that review in particular made very interesting reading.......
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In reply to Post #125
Just a quickie to wrap things up....
I thought it might be wise to give you a few pointers on what to use on the lakes as well?
FOX -
This lake has seen so much Mainline Cell over the years that it'd be foolish not to consider having a bag or two around you for your trip! It's probably viewed as a natural food source by the carp that swim in here now lol. Other baits that have scored well in the past are also from the Mainline stable, Activ-8 always does what it says on the tin, as does their Sweet pineapple! It's probably a good idea to avoid anything to fishy in here as I'm sure the Crays'll home in on the smell 10x quicker!! Having said that, Baitcraft do one called the Super K that absolutely smashed the place over a period during the autumn/winter and that's based around a (very) fishmeal mix! Most of the anglers in recent times have approached the lake with a pellet approach and this has definitely helped overcome the cray problems. First up, they start by loading the boat's hopper(s) half full of pellet, you then add a pva bag containing your hookbait and more pellet plus any glug or chopped/crumbed boilies and finally, yes you've guessed it, you completely cover this and fill the rest of the hopper(s) with MORE pellet!! The (interesting) theory behind this is that a cray's prehistoric brain won't allow it to climb over food to get to food, so providing (and this IS important) you use a heavy lead to get the bag straight down, you should end up with a huge spread of pellet to protect your little pile of goodness in the middle of the spot! They'll soon get full (bless 'em) and wander off elsewhere, leaving your hookbait all on it's own ready for a carp.... This on it's own shouldn't be enough to attract crays from any great distance either, hey presto.. Job done!! Please note though, that I loved those fish and I do feel they need something more substantial than a pile of (dissolving) pellets for dinner so please feel free to scatter a few good quality boilies around your swim to help them stay strong (and keep piling on the weight!!)
You can of course go down the other route and fish a very similar tactic but use plastic baits on the hair, this'll allow you to fish in a conventional (boilie) manner if that's what you prefer to do!
HERON -
Ah, a 35 acre slice of sunny ol' England tucked away in rural France, I love Heron as you can fish this lake exactly as you would any other back in blighty! No need to preach here, anything goes.... Except for TIGERS, please don't, some rules are meant for breaking lol, others aren't and this is one of them!!!! You can do it all on here, although zigs are NOT that successful but singles, beds of both particle and boilie, small pva bags, pop ups, bottom baits, snowmen, fake stuff, you name it, it goes! Just make sure it's not too deep in the weed please!
ATTILA -
This is one to watch, if the fish keep growing at this rate, Attila will rival Fox in the next 2-3 years as THE place to bag a few whackers in France! They're currently putting on the lb's quicker than anywhere else on the complex thanks in part to their new diet of hemp, maize and copious amounts of boilies as the lake gains in popularity season by season! They're quite nomadic by nature and will think nothing of moving into your swim, hoovering up everything and then p*ssing off again because you've been tight with the freebies! BIG beds of hemp, maize and pellet are the order of the day on here and make sure you keep topping the swim up after EVERY fish!! Large areas of boilies work well too but the downside is that it'll take them that little bit longer to single out your hookbaits. My preferred method was to adopt the particle approach, 'stick a few boilies over the area and then fish bags of chopped boilies n crumb over the top!
KINGFISHER -
Toughy this as carping on here is still a relatively unknown quantity, however it's safe to assume they've done quite nicely by living off the vast amounts of pellet this lake sees from the Cat anglers over the past 10 years! Some of these guys have been seen to put 10-25kg of pellet PER DAY over EACH rod!!!! Therefore it stands to reason that this'll work well too, especially if you're fishing an area where the Cats aren't so prominent. I tried a couple of methods, the first was the same particle approach I mentioned for Attila, the second was to use much smaller (2-6mm) feed pellets and then drop 1-2kg of boilies very tightly over each rig. The beauty of Kingfisher is the ability to use a rowing boat, this allows you to bait up with all manner of food types both quickly and quietly! Just bear in mind that if it's a little bit whiffy, the Cats run to well over 200lb and if they get wind of something they'll be all over it like a cheap suit lol!!
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Terrific posts, Ru...
No excuses now permitted from members that blank!
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In reply to Post #123
5. This is the Catfishing equivalent of Heron 19, if there are people booked on Kingfisher chances are they're in here!! However, during the Winter myself and a few other VIP ticket anglers gave this a proper seeing to while trying to establish the potential of Kingfisher as a Carp water and believe me, it delivers! The vast weedbed that runs from 2 to 6 is in full effect here, sweeping right across the front of the swim from one extreme to the other! This is a double swim and is definitely best fished in a tag team stylee.. Whoever draws the left hand side needs to exploit the big 'bowl' that appears on the far side of the weedbed in line with Peg 9/10 aka the point, opposite. Rods fished just before and just over the weed here at a range of 30-60yds will do just nicely. The right hand side does at least get a visual marker and this is the big pylon behind the trees that's situated between Fox and Heron. At a range of approx 55yds there is a slightly deeper channel that goes from right to left from the main weedbed down towards Peg 4.. Put your left hand rod2-5yds to the left of the pylon, your middle 2-5yds to the right and then drop the right hander either somewhere close, out to 'la plage' (if 2/3 are empty) or in close tight to the weed that starts to form up between yourself and 4 next door!
6. Soooo under-rated! I fished here for a solid month last July and caught a load of fish! 90% of the Catfishing is done in the other half of the lake, so this area gets mobbed by the Carp during the warmer weather. This side of this end (keep up lol) is deeper, with depths down to 26' as opposed to 18'ish on the far side but a rough average depth would be 14-18'.. I found 1 particular spot that was in line with the tree on the point at a distance of 45-50yds that always served me well. It was a sand/gravel combo in an area that's surrounded by onion weed. That often catered for 2 rods but if it was for the R/H only, then I used to aim the middle rod at Peg 8 (currently closed but still a noticeable gap in the reeds to aim at!) and either fish bags at 60-80yds or 'stick out boilies as far as possible and then fish a bright single just past the area on a chodanoster thingy lol! The left hand rod can be fished anywhere within reason, the margins here are very deep, certainly over 9' just a rod length out but I used to take a mark from the first gap in the bushes/trees along the non fishing bank and vary the range.
7. See above. This end of the lake has literally gone au naturel in recent times due to lack of use. This isn't really a swim as such anymore, although you could place a bivvy here with no trouble! I spent many afternoons down here feeding the fish on all sorts of ol' skool stuff like bread, maggots n corn and even managed to wangle a couple with zigs but if you fancy stalking then this is the place to be! Much like Peg 1, I'd even consider this a 2 rod swim as I fear the third could just get in the way or spoil any well laid traps you've set?! There is always a raft of weed protruding from the margins just where the 2 banks meet and the fish swim in and out from here all day long when it's nice. I'd then place a second rod somewhere just a little further out into the bay at a range of 10-25yds, no more! Failing that of course, it's the perfect spot to stick 3 rods up in the sky (in case the Luftwaffe are coming) and to boat 3 rods all the way across to the shallower far bank and see what happens?!?! The head of carp in Kingfisher needs to be seen to be believed and in Summer time they will ALL be down here at some point during the day, quite a sight when the sun's up!!
8. Currently CLOSED
9/10. The point, I rest my case.. If they're not in 5, they'll be in here lol!! This swim commands the best approach to ALL of the water on the lake for no easier reason than there's never any weed your side so from a Carper's perspective, you'll get nigh on perfect line lay to ANYWHERE!! I won't go into detail other than to say, you can access all areas, so don't take the p*ss!!!! It is worth noting that the bar right infront of you is only between 1-3' deep at 50-60yds though so don't get clever and fish close in because you'll get badgered by Tincas, huge Rudd and the occasional daft Bream as they wander about from one deep section to another in this neck of the woods!
Et voila, my brief overview of what to look for in which swims on the Abbey complex is now complete! I hope you can all find something useful in amongst it all to serve you well over the coming season(s), I'll also look forward to seeing a few of you there in the not too distant future as I continue the pursuit of my nemesis, Bruno, around Heron between now and xmas! Until then, tight lines!
Ru
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In reply to Post #122
KINGFISHER -
1. Simply awesome, my favourite swim on the lake for Carping as it doesn't seem to be such a popular corner with the Catfish lol!! The beauty of 1 is that all your fishing can be done within 20yds (of various banks). Again this is purely based on personal experience but the best places to put your rods would be.. The right hand rod should be lined up with the double trunked tree that's about 30yds up the right hand bank and dropped level with the clear area just behind the tree immediately to your right, this sounds odd but if you find 16.5' feet of water approx 12-15yds out just in front of the marginal weed extending off the far bank then you're cock on for a bite at some point!! I then used to place my middle rod a little further up the right hand bank, the mark for this was the overhanging tree (the only 1 that does!!), having told a few people about it there is now a white shirt sleeve tied up in the branches as an indicator! Row out until you're level with it and check the water underneath you, it's 11' deep here and there always seems to be a nice little semi circle cut back into the weed where the fish love to feed, the bottom is a mix of sand/gravel surrounded by onion weed and the mutant, 'jack and the beanstalk' stuff that's only found in Kingfisher. A rod here is another surefire winner in my eyes! My third rod would be boated all the way up the margin to an area just off what I called 'the cave', this is approx 120yds out and when viewed from the swim it looks to all intents and purposes like a black hole in the treeline. It is a possibility that this is better fished with 2 rods than 3, I know you've all paid a lot of money for the experience but sometimes it can work in your favour, believe! Please note that the water in front of the swim is the deepest on the entire complex so anything fished over 50yds out will be sitting in nigh on 40ft of water!!!! This is not condusive to a bite, even in the depths of Winter!!!! The margins to the left of the swim are lovely, anything from just over the marginal weed to 25yds out should be sitting in 12-18' of water and the fish are more than happy to patrol here all year round.
2. Pukka swim.. Again, you need to heed the fact that the water off to the right hand side is going to be very, very deep but the aim here is to fish along the front and up the right of the huge weedbed that grows between here and Peg 6 each Summer! If you're here early or late enough in the season, there is a feature called 'la plage' aka the beach, this is one of the strangest sights I've ever seen on a fishery, as when the sun's up it unveils what I can only describe as a little piece of the Caribbean in the middle of the lake, it gives off an eerie, turqoise glow from the golden sand below the surface! This is about 60-80yds out and in line with Peg 5, depths range from 6-12' and I'm sure that if a bed of bait was spread over it, could produce the goods?!
3. Another that commands an intimate little corner. It does get very weedy during the Summertime and as a result is often overlooked but the water is nice and shallow and therefore very warm and you can often find groups of fish just basking their lives away in here! A downside for me would be the fact that on more than the occasional night I have sat in Pegs 1 and 2 listening to the unmistakeable sound of tails slapping as some BIG Catfish go about their business!! To sum up then, find holes in the weed and look for any tell tale signs of feeding Carp in/around the margins here.
4. Looks out onto the back of the weedbed across from Peg 3. This is the first swim on the 'Railway bank' and has all the same attributes as before. You will need to spend a while out in the boat having a prod here n there but there is a lovely weed free channel that's always open between the 'bed and bank! The only other option would be to cast over the weedbed and fish the area just before the drop off (providing 3 is empty of course!) but my best bet'd be during Summer / margins!
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In reply to Post #121
ATTILA -
1. There are 2 main areas to fish from this swim. The first is the 'out of bounds' water down to your left, since the demise of peg 9/10 this area has been used as a sanctuary by the fish from time to time as it's way out of casting distance and/or safe bait boat range from all the other swims on the lake! However, a short walk down to the left of your swim will bring you to the 'bridge' and from here you can assess exactly how far out into the lake the weedbeds that form along the shallow margins extend. Upon returning to the swim, simply place 3 rods along the front edge of these, the range will probably somewhere between 100-140yds. It is worth bearing in mind that the fish are very comfortable down here and have responded well to both floaters and zigs during the warmer months! Option 2 is to take a mark by aiming at the pylon on the point in front of you, then have a quick whizz around with a marker float until you locate the 'dinner table' in 11' of water at 50-60yds.. This part of the lakebed is unmistakeable, it'll feel like glass through the rod tip, there's no weed, no gravel/sand/silt, etc.. the fish have stripped it bare and if there's a favoured SW wind blowing, it's an awesome spot (and swim) to be in!
2. This swim is the first you come to after passing through the barrier from the Clubhouse. It's lovely and comfortable and gives a great view of the whole lake BUT it is pretty shallow for the first 40yds out. The fish shoal up here in vast numbers during may/june prior/post spawning and hold up here for a number of weeks after, there aren't a great deal of features, you'll find some patches of silt/gravel dotted around and plenty of smaller weedbeds but it's always worth flicking 1 (or 2) down the treeline to your left! A favoures spot is just over the tips of the reeds, 3yds off the bank, at no more than 10yds range!
3. Is largely neglected unless you're having a social and you have friends in 4! The same rules apply about before/after spawning, this gives you access to the back of 2's water and a different line of attack to the shoals of fish that hang around in the area afterwards! It is quite weedy and has a lethal mussel bed at a range of 65-80yds straight out in front.. You have been warned!
4. Surely the most prolific swim at Abbey the numbers of fish this has produced over the past few years is mind blowing!! Now that Attila's bigger residents are well over 40lb (and the odd one past 50!) it's well worth bearing in mind if you want to get amongst both a quantity of and quality stamp of Carp! Again there are 2 main areas to go at from this Peg. Handily they're both dead ahead and the same size lol! To find them, simply line up with the 2 pylons above the treeline on the Island bank. The first is 40yds wide and at a range of 45-60yds, the second slightly further afield but give or take 80-100yds and you won't be far off.
5. Never fished it, it covers very similar water to 4 but in my eyes your range can be limited as it can get cut off if both 4 and 6 are occupied!
6. A nice swim. Gives the option of open water to the left and also the opportunity to fish tight to the enormous reedbed that flanks the whole of the southern bank as it goes down into the bay at 8! From here the only mark of note though is the deep channel about 2 rod lengths off the reeds, this is very productive and is used regularly by the fish as they head in and out of this corner during the evenings and at first light!
7. Has a lovely gravel area about 30yds out, from 10yds to the left of the swim. You also have the best opportunity to get at the reeds opposite as they cover the entire width of your water infront of you!! Although I have said that the channel itself is 2 rods off them, it can pay to walk around to the other side and have a look in the margins, as with the other lakes, Attila is gin clear and you can easily spot any areas where the Carp have got in close for a feed!
8. The most secluded swim at Abbey, you really do feel like you're all alone down here! It gets awfully weedy in places but the fish love to get in here during the night!! It also has a (very) small bay to the left and though I have never fished it, this looks as Carpy a spot as you will find anywhere on the complex!! Rods fished in an arc from dead ahead to the right along the end of the reedbed seem to produce the best!
PS Don't forget.... NO GUARANTEES
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In reply to Post #120
Thanks a lot Ru, that information is a big help.
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In reply to Post #119
Hi I am due to fish Atilia on the weekend 15 th to 17 th June with two other anglers, is the any chance of getting the best possible advice.
How much bait will we need etc?
what swims performance the etc?
I really appreciate any help no rush
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In reply to Post #118
thank's for that ru well handy mate!!
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Top stuff Mate.....I've fished lots of these swims on both lakes over the years and can honestly not disagree with a single sentence
Good Luck to All
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In reply to Post #116
Please don't pester me for any info on Attila or Kingfisher tonight peeps, my fingers are hangin' off now but I'll sort out run throughs for those two at some point tomorrow..
Much love
Rx
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In reply to Post #115
19. Everybody's favourite! Although not the most productive it's ALWAYS got a queue of bods camping to get in there! The main feature of 19 is that it's the only way the Carp can pass from one end of the lake to the other! As per 14 you can divide the area in front of you into thirds, the first third is nice and deep but doesn't ever seem to produce a fish, the middle section is always lovely and clear with no weed but again, doesn't get fished. The final third is where the big weedbed is and the majority of Anglers have their fish from! Anything fished tight to this should pay off over the course of your stay, there are other spots too, 1 rod cast long just to the right of swim 6 at a range of about 80yds can normally pick up fish as they approach the weedbed and there is also a nice gulley close in just off the point to your right, to find this, aim at 12 way off in the distance and drop it short, no more than 25yds out.. This should put you slap bang between 2 small weedbeds that run away from the point into deeper water, this spot is only in around 6-8'.
20. Can produce huge hits of fish under the right conditions. There is a tiny little bay just to your right that holds loads of fish during the Summer months! There is a thin gulley that runs from the centre of the bay (at it's widest point) down to 22 to your left and it's well worth spending a bit of time to find it once you've set up. Left hand rod, short to the gulley in 13-14' of water, middle rod, either straight out in front at 40yds or aimed to the round bush on the bank just in front of 19 at a similar distance and your right hand rod fished into the mouth of the bay wherever you can find a clear spot!
21. See above.. Fish all your rods to the gulley or out to a small weedbed that runs up the lake at a range of 45ish yds, no need to go far here!
22. Yaaaawn.. See above again! Although if there's no one opposite in 2 or 3 and you have a bait boat it can pay to wheel 'em out to the far marginal weedbed as your line lay'll be far better than if you were in those Pegs themselves!
23. Wicked swim! Seriously under-rated this one, nearly always empty yet has all sorts to go at and seems to give up fish at any time of the year! The winds (nearly) always seem to be south westerly at Abbey and if it's blowing hard down this end, they'll be all over this Peg! Read as for Peg 1.. I'd have my left hander aimed into the 'bay' in the big weedbed along the non fishing bank, this is a nice, lazy chuck of around 40-45yds, providing no one's in 1 then my middle rod would be a small pva bag launched as far as poss to (hopefully) within 10-15yds of the far bank in line with the reeds to the left of 1 as you look at it!! Right hand rod can go in a number of places but there is a lovely, pronounced hump on a gravel area at a distance of no more than 40yds out. To find this (either cheat and use a boat n echo sounder lol) aim at the solitary tree 15yds to the left of Peg 2 and slowly inch the marker back, always checking the depth every foot or so!!!!
Once again that sums the lake up. Hope this'll prove helpful to you?! Like I said before, there's no guarantees implied, intended or given but there maybe a little bit of info that you can take and use from this that'll help you out if times are hard! Tight lines..
Ru
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In reply to Post #114
13. Often overlooked, 13 is actually a brilliant place to intercept fish that are sneaking around the point via the deep channel to get into the finger bay and up to 14. The channel is quite wide and starts maybe 5yds off the bank out to a range of 20-25yds and rods placed at the mouth of it can wangle a serious amount of fish when conditions are right. Markers to aim at are the first and third Poplar trees along the spit of land for left and middle rods with your right aimed 10-15yds off and 15yds back from the point.
14. Either incredible or incredibly frustrating in equal measure?! IF the fish are in here, massive hits can be on the cards! The single biggest haul I witnessed at Abbey last season came when another friend, Jeroen, managed to bank 87 fish in a 10 day spell including 'Shoulders', 'Bruno' and 'White tips' within 24 hours!! Having said that, if the fish aren't present you could suffer a very boring stay, one plus point being 14's a magnificent sun-trap so at least you'll have a better tan than everyone else lol! A good starting point would be to grab your Polaroids and stand on the concrete inflow pipe up in the corner and just watch the water along the no fishing bank for an hour or so when you arrive, you'll soon know whether they're there or not?! If you see 1, there'll be more! The swim should be split into thirds.. The first third as you look out hasn't ever produced a fish to my knowledge???? The middle section is a massive gravel bar that runs from the point opposite 13 all the way up to 40yds short of the no fishing bank, the final third is the deep channel that runs from the first Poplar tree opposite, down to the point.. My suggestions would be to place a left hand rod somewhere between the inflow pipe and halfway along the no fishing bank (if the bottom has been cleaned) maybe 5-10yds off it? Your middle rod should be aimed just shy of the branches of the tall tree right in the far left hand corner of the swim where the no fishing bank meets the far one, the depth here is just over 9' and is where the channel shelves up to meet the flatter part of the bay as it swings in to your left. My right hand rod used to be aimed at either the first or third Poplar along dead opposite where you stand and was normally fished between 5-10yds off the far bank dependant on weed growth, having said that, some people faired better by dropping just a little shorter and placing their rigs where the channel started to raise up to meet the bar?! Decisions, decisions..
15. Another with what appears to be at first glance, a small area of water but another that can upset the apple cart if the fish are present! This is another belter in the Summer, fish do spawn in the corner next to the road bank between Heron and Fox and spend long periods here during the daylight hours! There are too many (small) spots to mention so it'll all depend on what you can find out in front with your Marker rod and/or Echo sounder as it can get pretty weedy. Another feature here is the sunken road that runs out to the Island from the road bank.. It's a useful border to split your water from 17's opposite but the drop off just your side of it is a handy area, relatively weed free and it goes down to 16' from the 4-8' of the road!
16. This has probably the easiest spots to reach on the lake, there is a huge gravel area right in front of the swim ranging from 15-20yds off the Island all the way back in to within 25yds of your bank! It is also an easy chuck to the Island from here although it's not quite as deep down this side of it so you can spook fish off by having lines running through the shallow water if you're too close?! To your right there will usually be a weedbed (the one I mentioned from Peg 10's brief) and baits fished in the little channels around it can also pay dividends!
17. Not a fave for me I'm afraid, see 15's brief and fish it in a similar manner is my guess?!?!
18. Love it!! The tightest swim on the lake but it again has loads of features below the surface, there's obviously the shelf at the Island's base, a few dips and humps, gravel and silt pockets and you also have access to the back of the gulley and the deep hole if nobody is in Peg 9! Markers for 18 then, left hander in line with the 3 tiny bushes to the left of Peg 7 on the far bank at a range of 40-45yds to a gravel bed. Middle rod aimed at 9 and dropped either at the same distance on to gravel or slightly longer to the deep hole off the Island and a right hander to the third small (6') bush in from the right of the Island, drop this a rod length off the Island where you should be between the Island shelf/lakebed and a small 10yd wide weedbed (that does rise to just under the surface!)
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In reply to Post #113
7. Funny Peg this?! Can pay to fish short, can pay to go long lol! Fish show in this area an awful lot so just keep 'em peeled and you'll know soon enough. There is a lovely gravel patch no more than 10yds off the bank in front of the small reedbed to your right though which shouldn't be ignored! Out in front it's worth fishing as tight as you can get to the weedbeds that sprout up here n there, these'll be at a range of around 60-80yds in 7-10' of water.. One thing of note, if you are going to encounter any Crays in Heron, they'll most likely be here during the Summer?!
8. Read as per 7 but with the ability to push just that little bit further out due to the lake widening as the far bank turns towards Peg 18 and the bay behind the Island. There is a big gulley and 2 bars that run from 3 rod lengths off the Island back towards the point at 19 that are worth finding with a Marker rod! The depth change here is from 13' to just under 16' in the channel.
9. The one Peg that has true bragging rights to access the Island and the channel that passes in front of it! There are 2 deep holes offset at either end of the Island that need to be found without fail! I've had a lot of success by fishing 5yds left and 5yds back from the Island as well as by putting a rod into the channel directly in front of the Island (as stated, about 3 rod lengths off it) and a friend of mine had an amazing run of big fish from a deep hole he found just out to the right of the Island. The depth change here was from 15.8' to 16.9' and the patch is apparently only 4-5' across but it certainly (continually) produced the goods throughout the Winter for Remy, his list of fish from the spot was big in itself, the amazing thing was the fact all bar one went 20kg+ (44lb or more), the biggest was the 'Unknown' mirror at an all time high 62.05lb! If you're struggling to find that or a(nother) clear patch for your right hander then can I suggest flipping a small pva bag just out in front of the tree that borders the swim, this is a spot that has always served me well when it's a bit tricky. The depth 10yds off the tree is between 9-11' which is more than adequate to bring them in close and allow them to feel comfortable holding up there too..
10. This swim was so under-fished through 2011 that the reeds and bushes actually grew across the front of it!! It is of course open but in recent times there has been a large weedbed in residence that comes to the surface about 25yds out and continues all the way across from the point opposite to the Island and as a result it has been largely ignored!
11. What can I say, if Carlsberg did swims.... This is probably the most productive swim on Heron lake, it's far from the easiest to fish, let alone fish well but it throws up biggies time after time and does the numbers too! There is so much to go at here I'm going to leave you all to make up your own minds but rods aimed at the tall tree to the left of 13 at 70-80yds, a middle rod dropped 15-20yds to the left of the point after aiming at the tall tree above the L/H side of 14 and a right hander dropped 15yds directly off the point won't go far wrong! If there's nobody fishing in 12 the mind boggles as there's all sorts of nooks n crannies down the bank to your left!!
12. Only for the brave!! This Peg is probably the weediest on the whole Complex, it is also the shallowest part of Heron and is the place they'll be queueing up to spawn in when the time comes! It has recently produced 'Shoulders' at a weight just shy of the magical 80lb barrier and is another that throws up the bigger fish as I'm sure they feel at home tucked away beneath one of the many weedbeds that lie out in front of the swim and up tight to the reeds to your right hand side. Accessing this area is a tricky, tricky cast at best due to the overhanging trees, especially in Summer when things are in full bloom! Again I'm going to bottle it and leave you all to make up your own minds on how to fish this. It's safe to say though that I'd completely ignore it until such time as they allow the use of rowing boats again as there's no point potentially harming fish just for the sake of hooking them!!
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In reply to Post #110
Wow, Rupert. Great posts. No excuses now if the guys don't catch
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In reply to Post #105
hi i am going to abbey on 26/may fishing heron lake, anyone got any tips on swims? cheers.
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Ru, it's great to see a bailiff who really knows his stuff and gives honest and practical advice. All I can say is you are going to be inundated on here!!!
I am going out for 10 days in September. My (first!) question is, at that time of year, are takes mainly at night or in the day on Heron? I was basically wondering if it responds well to lines being taken out and the swim being rested at the off times and the fish being unpressured for part of the day? Not many people like to do this when they pay x amount to come to a great venue and fish everyday, but I have done this on recent holidays to quite good effect.
Cheers
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In reply to Post #103
re the swim guide, that would be awesome Ru.
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In reply to Post #102
Thanks mate i owe you one
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In reply to Post #101
No worries chap,
Please see post #82 below for a swift guide to (what in fairness are only my) preferred spots in early summer. Failing that I'd settle for 18 as there have been an awful lot of fish showing in the area between there, 19, 6, 7 and 8 over the past few months. It has a decent change of depth, a few patches of gravel, a gulley and a bar or two to seek out, as well as the shortest chuck to the island!
This swim does have good form through may/june though as a lot of the fish choose to spawn in the shallows to the right and they do shoal up in readiness, so it's one to watch.
The only downside to 18 is that it does get VERY weedy and last year I only found it fishable through the same period by fishing what's known as a 'chod-anoster' i.e 6-8" straightened sections of 25lb fluoro about 6-10 feet up the mainline, hardly practical but if you attach the lead helicopter style via a very light (2lb) mono and then bind it with pva string/tape prior to casting it'll hold for any distance you may need in that swim yet will break free, usually on the strike but if not, very soon into the fight, leaving u free to play the fish in the normal manner!
Please note.. Going to try and draw up a swim by swim GUIDE to fishing both Fox and Heron over the next couple of days so it'll be here as a point of reference for anyone that wants a rough guesstimate as to how to go about tackling the complex in the future....
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #100
Cheers ru, im not planning on fishing peg 1 just wanted to know to help get my bearings, thinking more around the island on any bank really or is there a best peg to be in, going may 12th will see where the fish are when we get there, is there any areas they hold up in?
Cheers steve
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In reply to Post #97
Hi Steve,
1 on Heron is the swim nearest the Clubhouse (u lazy sod ) as u drive up to the lake and the pegs are then numbered along that bank and round, down along the track between Fox and Heron. 23 backs on to Fox 1!
Not the most productive either, far better to get in 23 and fish across once the weed's up
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #98
Pull up a chair n check your PM's fella!
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In reply to Post #97
Im off on Saturday for my first trip to abbey, im booked on fox and wondered if anyone who has been had any general tips or advice??
I dont know to much about the place so just trying to gauge what i may or may not need to take
Thanks very much!
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In reply to Post #96
Has anyone got a map of heron with the peg numbers on or can tell me where peg 1 is and which way round the lake do the pegs go up, i know the lake quite well, fished fox half a dozen times and had the odd night on heron.
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I reckon she'll be out again soon........massive fish like Shoulders, GM, etc......all need to binge at this time of year thus unless you lose her, she'll be making someone very happy again soon in my humble opinion
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In reply to Post #94
PS If u do want half a chance, get in 12 or 14 now cos she'll be sulking in a corner somewhere....
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In reply to Post #93
Ah Jez,
You're too slow I reckon, she's done her spring visits now. Next chance'll be just prior/post spawning n then again in october
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In reply to Post #91
Nice one Mate......I'll be going back on the Sat but hopefully have time to exchange some info......I'll be the one with Shoulders on his mat
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In reply to Post #91
Hi gents,
Just to clear up a point of some confusion..
ROWING BOATS ARE NOT PERMITTED AT ABBEY UNTIL IT IS SHOWN ON THE MAIN ABBEYLAKES.COM OR ANGLING INTERNATIONAL WEBSITES LATER IN THE SEASON!!
Many thanks,
Ru
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In reply to Post #89
jez,
Not on the 26th, but I get out there on the 28th.
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Just looking at some old photo's has anyone seen this fish in recent years, I caught it back in October 2000 from Fox lake?
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In reply to Post #88
Just by dumping the lead and learning where the weed beds are should avoid the need for a boat, however in extreme cases hand lining the fish directly above them in a boat is the safest and less likely to damage the fish........just make sure you wear a life jacket
PS anyone on Heron 26th April?
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In reply to Post #87
If everybody stopped fishing the Kontour way and used tight lines as it is after all one of the weediest venues around in high summer then perhaps you wouldn't need a boat I managed to bank nearly 400 fish last season and had to resort to using a boat on less than 5 occasions! Tighten your lines up ever so slowly until they're like bowstrings and then just peel 5-10ft back off the reel, this amount in conjunction with the natural stretch in the mono is ample and will still give excellent bite indication.... Fishing slack lines cos it's fashionable is daft and on a weedy water containing 250 fish over 40lbs, unacceptable! It shouldn't be the fishery's duty to provide boats so people can go and wrestle fish out of weedbeds, quite often damaging them as a result just because Mr X said if they didn't fish everything on the deck, they wouldn't be cool enough to use his bobbins!!!!
Keep it real kids xx
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In reply to Post #69
Just a quick reminder, Rowing boats are currently ONLY allowed on Kingfisher.
IF the weed gets really bad and fish are being regularly weeded up, then we will announce on the web site that rowing boats are allowed for the freeing of weeded fish.
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In reply to Post #85
Don't panic fella, them's the rules for the Forces Carp Classic that occurs at the end of each season, NOT a normal rulebook jobbie!!
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In reply to Post #84
Since when are bait boats not allowed think you got that wrong,hope so cause mine is going on tour round the lake in 12 hours time.
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In reply to Post #82
we are off to abbey lakes in october to do the (carp classic), no bait boats are allowed so i am told,all your good advice would be the same ,apart from the boat advice.
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In reply to Post #82
Thanks Rupert, thats some really good inside-information and it will help us out a lot.
Very helpful as always.
Regards,
Scott.
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In reply to Post #74
Hi mate,
Marty's right, think the going rate is about 15.80 either way (for a car), 25 if you're in a van.. That's euros obviously!
The supermarket's are both an easy drive from the complex. The Carrefour (aka Le shopi) is about 3 minutes drive away in the local village of Verberie, a bigger (and slightly cheaper) one is available at Lacroix st Ouen, which is about 5-10 minutes up the D200, which runs past the lakes to the nearest town called Compiegne.. The supermarket at LSO is called the Auchan and should come up on your sat nav?!
Regards Heron.. The pellet approach I suggested for Fox lake will definitely work on Heron, one of the agents for Abbey fished for 10 days last june and had a massive 87 fish haul, inc. the 'big3' of Shoulders, Bruno and White tips (in 24 hours!!!!) using the same method, during his 10 days I think I'm right in saying he only used 10+ kg of boilie but went through the thick end of 175kg of pellet!!
Having said that, Heron is the most 'English' lake on the complex and I'd have no hesitation in whacking out the marker rod, finding a few spots and then maybe spodding a bed of particle out and 'sticking some boilies over the top, just as you would back home! At that time of year I'd have a good look around the shallower end of the lake, from Peg 9 up to 14 before setting up anywhere, if 14 is free it'd be worth standing on the concrete overflow pipe in the corner of the swim and just watching the area along that short, no fishing bank for an hour or so, if the fish are in there, you could have a field day?! If you don't see anything, then it's probably a fair bet that they're not going to be in there at any point either!! My first choice then would probably be between 9-11, 19 (which doesn't actually cover much water but does act like a highway for fish heading from one end to the other) or the unfancied 23 (just to contradict myself lol) which is at the clubhouse end and has great access to a resident weedbed to the left, a few lovely gravel patches and a hump in mid water from 45-60 yards and if the far bank is empty (and you possess a decent bait boat) access to fish another weedbed that springs up between Pegs 1 and 2 opposite!
Hope that helps you out a bit more....
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In reply to Post #80
Buzzing off tomorrow on fox lake bring on the fish.
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Take ear plugs, u'll need them fishing the cat lake
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off to abbey 2 weeks this fri,cant come fast enough.im on the cat lake at least for the weekend.should be interesting......
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In reply to Post #77
Wow thats good going. Was they doing anything different from the norm?
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In reply to Post #76
Heron has picked up, 4 anglers last week had 52 fish between them, biggest at 51lb 8oz.
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In reply to Post #75
Whats the latest news on Heron Rupert?
Im out there in a couple of weeks, cannot wait.
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Tolls from Calais to Abbey lakes are no more than 20 Euros each way, there are local supermarkets and better ones in Compiegne and Pont St Maxeme
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In reply to Post #73
cheers for reply and putting me straight on the boat issue,any tips for an abbey virgin.are the supermarkets handy?how much in tolls will i need?im booked on heron in may.not too much boilie then,more pellet.
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PS Get in 16-17 and fish at 10, 12 and 2 o'clock at a range of 65-80 yards, job done!
If ur splitting up, 1 of u should get in 13, walk the far margin and check the spots (15-20ft out) and bait boat your rigs over using loads of pellet for loose feed, don't over do it with boilies or the crays'll smash u! Far better to walk round and throw 20-30 broken ones in by hand.. Oh and DO NOT CAST in this swim or you'll go home with a cheque book n pen!!!!
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Hi all, due to unforseen circumstances back home I am no longer Bailiffing at Abbey but I can guarantee that the rules I have put in place for 2012 and beyond will be strictly enforced by Cedric and Julien plus one lucky bugger from the UK!
There are no boats permitted until the owners place a note on the website, expect this in june/july time, not before!
ALL the swims have ALWAYS been pegged and include a map showing your water. Anyone fishing outside of their swim boundary WILL be asked (told!) to leave the fishery..
In reply to the question about weed on Fox, the silkweed bed between pegs 1-18 is still present but that's currently it bar a bit of growth in the margins and around the edge of the plateau in front of 8-9....
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In reply to Post #69
Has anyone been on fox lake in the last few weeksim off on this friday anyone know what pegs have been fishing well and whether the weed is bad yet any info would be appreciated .
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In reply to Post #69
read post 59 mate . its all explained clearly
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In reply to Post #68
are you allowed boats(not bait boats)or not as im getting different stories,for fish landing only.which is the best supermarket in village.ta
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can you hire bait boats at abbey?
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In reply to Post #66
cheers for that.theres very little known about the carp stock in there from what i can gather as,like you say,its mainly cat anglers on there.its that air of mystery that appealing,who knows what the hells in there!
apparenlty theres a few 50s in that wildboar lake now,if your prepared to wade through the doubles.
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Kingfisher fished well during the winter carp to nearly 25 Kg, I know during the season when the catfish start moving there are mostly catfish anglers on the lake who use boats (rowing and bait) to position their baits, if its quiet you should be OK, fish close to the surface weed and you can catch by both day and night. Only downside is the trains! Like a 747 coming through your bedroom window at 0600 hours, they are quiet between 2300 and 0600 hours though lol
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just wondering if anyone has fished kingfisher lake(catfish) in the last 12months?might end up on there if cant get on fox/heron late april.....
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In reply to Post #63
i totaly agree about fishing with a drop off lead system . Thanks for all/any advise.
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In reply to Post #62
Braided mainline does tend to cut through weed much better than nylon, just remember to use tubing or a nylon leader to protect the fish from any potential damage.
I find braid useful due to lack of stretch as well, the way I fish in the weed is quite tight to the lead(braid in the weed isn't going to spook anything)drop of lead and fishing quite a tight clutch. On the pick up the fish loses the lead and unable to run at speed comes to the surface. Bite indication is almost instant and you are then playing a fish at the surface rather than all ready in the middle of a weedbed.
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Thanks lads for clearing up a few things
As for using braided mainline ive heard this before is this used for mainly cutting through the weed? i see in this weeks carptalk that barry& ben Oconnor have been out there lately and there using Gardner hydro TUFF as mainline .
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In reply to Post #59
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In reply to Post #59
Thanks guys, thats a relief.
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In reply to Post #58
In previous years we have allowed you to bring your own rowing boat for any fish that get weeded up, but only from June onwards, as before they just are not needed.
There are several boats on site that Ru, the bailif, has access to if needed.
It is planned that you will still be able to bring your own boats as in previous years, if this changes it will be on the website.
On Kingfisher lake you are allowed boats all year, not just to land fish but to bait up as well.
This year we (last 6 months) we have been treating with a new biological weed treatment. It has had an effect,but does take time.
All the swims are really well defined, by large trees, bushes, undergrowth etc. All as mentioned, each swim has a board showing that swims water.
Anyone fishing into another anglers water WILL be asked to leave.....
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In reply to Post #52
Rowing boats.
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In reply to Post #56
Absolute rubbish mate, there is plenty of room between swims, the water you can fish is clearly marked on a board at the back of each swim. Loads of water to each swim .
Boats are only allowed later on in the year when the weed really gets up, have a look on their site, it'll tell you on there.
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In reply to Post #55
There seems to be a lot of stories about people fishing your water from opposite with their bait boats, and people setting up right next to you because there are no defined swims.
Is this true? And if so are the baliffs on hand to resolve things like this?
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In reply to Post #54
Perhaps someone from abbey would like to clarify what the rules are on using boats are to free weeded fish and I was also recommended after being there for six days that they recommend using mainline braid by the baliff didn't say that on the website either perhaps it has been updated now I'm not sure
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Boats were fine to use to get weeded fish only when i was there in september and november.
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In reply to Post #52
When I went last year a mate took his own rowing boat to land fish as it said on the website that it was ok he went out to land a fish and got a right bollocking so I'm not sure what the rule is I'm there again in April you can use baitboat
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In reply to Post #50
when you say that boats may not be aloud do you mean bait boats or rowing boats ?
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In reply to Post #49
cheers , the use of the boat was ONLY for landing fish that were weeded up .
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In reply to Post #48
Don't think you'll be allowed to use boats that early in the year, no need anyway. A pair of chesties is essential though imo. 20kg is more than enough boilies, hemp/red band/maize etc with a bit of something yellow on the hook I've never needed an echo sounder.
Love the place, shame is so expensive now
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In reply to Post #48
I took same amount boilie was fine weed is bad your not aloud to use dinghy and it was baking hot in mid April just use a marker float although echo would be an advantage
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im going abbey for the 1st time this may can anyone give me a few tips ie whats the weather normaly like that time of year ?. im taking about 20k of cell and some responce pellet is this too much or not enough ? .
ive got a bait boat but no echo sounder .... do i need one is the weed that bad?
and do i need a dingy to land the fish ?as ive heard the fish weed you up and a boat is needed.
thanks for any help ....... baz
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In reply to Post #45
Hi Dale,
We're shut in Feb me ol' china!! The Winter season runs through until 31st Jan and then we have a month off and re-open for the 1st-15th March for any remaining Winter (price) bookings and the tail end of the VIP ticket!
If we don't speak before, have a Happy xmas fella!
Regards,
Ru
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In reply to Post #41
Was it worth getting wet?
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Me and 2 others are considering a february trip out there.
We've fished Atilla twice now, mainly because we've had it to ourselves.
We've had some good fish out of there and seen some very big fish  , abit under rated in my opinion.
We fancy the last week of february though for 4 days on fox dependant on how busy it is...angling against 6 others with bait boats out constatly which i saw when i was there a few weeks ago isnt angling in my book.
FFS, it was a 50 yard chuck to where they were fishing.
Lovely complex, Rupert lets you get on with things....and its close to calais.
Will probably see you in Feb Rupert for the third time in less than 6 months LOL.
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Sounds like it could be worth packing the van and getting oneself off to Abbey....
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In reply to Post #42
Hi Rupert.......the Fox is certainly the one to watch for 50's......I've seen many commons during the spawning ritual in the top bay 2010 that were pushing and beyond 50lbs barrier......can't wait to get back out there.......say hello to Seb, Yvellene and the Team from me
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In reply to Post #41
Most of the 40's came from Heron, surprisingly 10 of the 50's were from Fox which indicates we've massively underestimated the current sizes of the Carp in there as we thought there were probably somewhere in the region of 15 in the lake and it would be a bit unlikely that they'd all get caught in the same 4 day spell?! This can only be good for the future as we reckon there are around 350-400 40lb+ carp in Fox and if the uppers all start to push on then god knows how many 50's the lake will hold come this time next year or by the spring of 2013?!
PS I have just had another one from peg 6 but fell in while netting it which is why I'm online now, drying out in the Clubhouse!!
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In reply to Post #39
which lake at Abbey?
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In reply to Post #37
If u lay off the croissants, u wouldn't have to leave your shreddies hangin' in my trees fella
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In reply to Post #38
Plus 30 different 20kg+ CarpS mate lol! Started this week ok too with Shoulders out again on a zig at 80.96lb!!!! 1x 30 and 6 more over 44lb so far!
Will keep u posted....
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In reply to Post #33
14 fifties in the last week, between 6 anglers........
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In reply to Post #34
you cant ban me rupert !!!! who would eat all those croissants if im banned
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In reply to Post #30
Cracking fish mate.Wouldn't mind one half that size.
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In reply to Post #34
Shoulders has been caugth again at 36,8 kg
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In reply to Post #14
now i know whose they are, consider yourself barred me ol' china!!
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In reply to Post #23
The VIP ticket holders DO NOT have exclusive use of the venue during the Winter season any more, they just have unlimited access! You can book just like normal from the 15th November 2011 until the 31st Jan 2012 and then again from the 1st until the 15th March at a reduced rate. This gives you a 20 per cent discount over and above our normal season tariffs!
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In reply to Post #27
I have a load up on FB - Look at my profile for more - Rupert Whiteman
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In reply to Post #30
The depth of this fish has to be seen to be believed.....awesome!
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In reply to Post #27
Rob Marsh has got one up on facebook.
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In reply to Post #26
Wow,wat a fish.Any pics?
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In reply to Post #25
Shoulders was out this morning at a new top weight of 83lb 10oz!
Historically she hits top weight in March/April so what will she be then?
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In reply to Post #24
At least once month
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In reply to Post #23
Cheers loomy, do you do much fishing there?
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In reply to Post #21
Whole complex closed in February, 1st March ti the 13th is for winter ticket holders only, venue opens to all on the 14th.
Room for a couple of anglers on most lakes in March, but April is getting heavily booked up.
Its well worth a go early in the season, Pete from KGB baits in Holland had Bruno(60lb plus) 24hrs later Shoulders(80lb plus) and a couple of days later the grey lady(50lb plus) opening week last year PLUS a few back up 30's and 40's.
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In reply to Post #19
Definitely worth a go
Seen fish out with half the lakes frozen over Christmas 2009......very cold but very rewarding
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In reply to Post #20
Feb/march time,they should be coming round to feed by then.
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In reply to Post #19
When are you looking to go?
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In reply to Post #18
Is it worth going to Abbey for a couple of nights through week or will it be busy?
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In reply to Post #17
probably using 1 of the new korda stealth spods
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In reply to Post #16
Saw someone spod on fox when iwas there had 12 big fish in one night several over 40
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In reply to Post #15
You ain't wrong, worked for an hour, then Jack s### for three days, bait boat or bags only me old mate.
Still waiting for your half of £1200 for the new bait boat !!!!!
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In reply to Post #12
we done alright mate , one thing though if your fishing on fox leave your spod rod in the bag , my mate mr nimmo will tell you all about spodding and spombing on fox spod spomb spod spomb spod spomb
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In reply to Post #13
lol believe it or not mate i left a pair of pants hanging in a tree when we left , do you reckon they will still be there when we go back in march ??? or do you think rupert might be wearing them ??
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In reply to Post #12
He caught his hook in back of his pants one night when casting out mate, gave himself a right old wedgey
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In reply to Post #11
How did it go,did you catch much?
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In reply to Post #9
was there a few weeks ago and the weed wasnt a problem
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In reply to Post #9
Nothing that you cannot combat against ie dropping lead, use a boat, robust set up, etc...
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In reply to Post #8
Is the weed on this place really that bad?
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In reply to Post #2
How did you get on ?
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In reply to Post #6
thanks
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In reply to Post #5
About 2 hrs
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In reply to Post #4
hi guys,was just wondering how far from calais abbey is,thanks
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In reply to Post #2
see u there then dale
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In reply to Post #2
Let us know how you get on will you mate,
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In reply to Post #1
Yes, booking in advance is best but you pay by the week/ long weekend / day etc...
I'm going out there tomorrow night
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Are all the lakes on the Abbey complex day ticket?
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