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   Old Thread  #344 11 May 2013 at 11.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The well respected bait maker I'm referring to make some of the best baits available at the moment and always received rave reviews on this very forum for producing quality baits and providing outstanding service.

I was surprised as you at their comments.
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   Old Thread  #343 11 May 2013 at 9.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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spoke to a very well respected custom bait roller recently about BM 1. They seemed to think that the solubles were too high and that the bait would float. I mentioned my dismay at their findings and also that the recipe was a long standing one from another well respected (no names were mentioned) bait maker. They didn't reply to that bit but did suggest something lower in solubles.

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that well respected bait maker aint got a clue then, cos 8.5% milk and 8.5% pre digested wont float anything
ive used 15% milks and 10% pre dig along with shrimp and krill and it sank ok.
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   Old Thread  #342 11 May 2013 at 9.19am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Oh yes, don't get me wrong, I have every faith in this recipe and it's designer. But it's just interesting how opinions differ.
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   Old Thread  #341 11 May 2013 at 9.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Well, I can tell you it definitely doesn't float but it definitely works, top quality bait
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   Old Thread  #340 11 May 2013 at 8.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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You never give up, do you. Take a rest for a while...
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   Old Thread  #339 11 May 2013 at 8.37am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I spoke to a very well respected custom bait roller recently about BM 1. They seemed to think that the solubles were too high and that the bait would float. I mentioned my dismay at their findings and also that the recipe was a long standing one from another well respected (no names were mentioned) bait maker. They didn't reply to that bit but did suggest something lower in solubles.

Thoughts?



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   Old Thread  #338 11 May 2013 at 8.29am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Give it a go nick, never used the krill but the other bits have worked well in that mix at similar levels :-)
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   Old Thread  #337 10 May 2013 at 4.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #336 2 Apr 2013 at 5.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I'm looking to kick off my bait making by using the bs1 mix after reading this thread (which has been bloody useful). Just wondering if anyone else has made a batch? If so, what sort of flavours (if any) have you added? Cheers
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   Old Thread  #335 12 Mar 2013 at 8.59am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Taking out your semolina and replacing it with 20% predigested fm I would not recommend. Your taking out your bulk binder and replacing it with a high level soluble ingredient. Even with the other binders in your mix this wont last long in the water.

If you want to make a good fish meal bait I would completely scrap your mix and start off with smurfs recipe!

If you want a fish meal bait but don't want to scrap your other base mix why not fish with bm1 along side your birdynut mix you have?



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   Old Thread  #334 11 Mar 2013 at 9.29pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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HELLO AL THIS IS A BASE MIX I'M USING MY SELF WHAT CAN I TAKE OUT TO MAKE IT A FISH MEAL I WAS THINKIN OF TAKING AL THE SEMOLINA OUT AND PUTIN IN PRE DIGESTED FISH MEAL INSTEAD
THIS IS A 1KG MIX
150G MEGABLEND
100G PEANUT FLOUR
205 MORES CLO
50G VITAMELO MILK POWDER
200G SELMOLINA
100G WHOLEEGG POWDER
100G VINILLA MEAL
100G SUPER GOLD 60
I LOOK FORWORD TO READING YOUR MESSAGES ND MENY THANKS FOR YOUR FEED BACK
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   Old Thread  #333 11 Jan 2013 at 2.56pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Absolutely agree, its how it performs that matters, and that's another reason I am not a fan!
My point is that imo it is pointless balancing your amino level with prairie meal as I believe that a lot of those aminos will not be assimilated by the carp. That's just what I think, you obviously think that most of the aminos are usable and that's fine by me.
We will have to agree to disagree! But thanks for the chat
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   Old Thread  #332 11 Jan 2013 at 1.49pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I am not disputing that, I am just saying it will never be as good as a high quality fishmeal or similar!
Unsure why people have such a hard time understanding that




i understand really well what you mean Sam. For you, corn gluten meal will never be as good as a high quality fishmeal or milk protein etc... and i agree ! when it's used alone ...

in this thread, we talk about it combined with fishmeal and both together give a good AA profile, and give a cheaper finished bait, so why using more expensive stuff ? because they are better ?

technical values on a paper are great, but i'm more convinced by my result on the bank and my own experience have proved me that it is not always the most expensive bait or ingrediant that work better
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   Old Thread  #331 11 Jan 2013 at 11.21am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i dont have a hard time-i looked at the bio value of prarie meal against fishmeal years ago-theyres no contest, but as some have mentioned-added with a few other ingredients-amino acid balance up.

then again so does poultry meal-and thats papp imo also .
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   Old Thread  #330 11 Jan 2013 at 11.11am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I am not disputing that, I am just saying it will never be as good as a high quality fishmeal or similar!
Unsure why people have such a hard time understanding that
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