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   Old Thread  #77  1 Nov 2011 at 4.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Don't know if Pete still comes on here. If he does I hope he does not mind me posting this for the previous poster:

OK after so many requests here are a couple of simple base mixes to base your own baits around. There is nothing clever here just simple balanced nutrition and if you take any of these as a base and then add your chosen attractors you won’t be going far wrong.

BM1 (basic HNV mix)
30% LT94 fishmeal
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
13% Egg based bird food like CeDe
10% Semolina
10% Soya flour (heat treated)
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
5% Equivite

Depending on the exact brand of milk powder and bird food you use this will give you a bait with over 50% crude protein and about 10% oil content. Although they sound a little high it will come down if you add a few attractors to it yourself. If you really want to know the FLAA is Phenylaline, the 2nd is Methionine and the 3rd is Threonine……but all are plenty high enough to allow the carp maximum utilisation of the protein in the bait.

I have deliberately left the solubles a little on the low side so that you can add your own soluble attractors such as Betaine, MSG, liver powder etc without the bait falling to pieces in the water after 10 minutes!

Now another mix I have played with and had some promising result on before I stopped bait development was slightly different. Lower fish meal due to increased costs and slightly higher energy was the initial goal.

BM2
22% Poultry protein meal
20% LT94
10% Maize Protien Meal 60% (supergold 60)
10% pre-digested fishmeal
10% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
7% Micronized Soya meal
6% Semolina
2.5% Micronised crushed hemp
2.5% Equivite

Again the crude protein level is above 50% but the lipids levels are higher. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd LAA are the same as the above mix although the balance is not quite as good. As with BM1 you can add your attractors to this. If you find it too soft (I like it that way and the attractors can just pour out) then try adding 2 or 3% egg albumin.

For a simple bait take any of these and add 20ml per Kg of good quality oil such as Cod liver or Salmon, a few ml of flavour if you want some and 8-10 eggs per Kg of base mix.


Two of the best recipes you will ever encounter...Nothing more needs saying
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   Old Thread  #505 9 Sept 2018 at 11.54am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi I can see loads of good recipes ..

But does anyone have an idea on pellet recipes ???
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   Old Thread  #504 21 Dec 2017 at 3.38pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Trying to put together a recipe for next year, any advice?

30% LT94 fishmeal
15% Maize Protein Meal 60% (supergold 60)
8% Robin Red
5% Meggablend
10% Semolina
10% Soya flour (heat treated)
8.5% pre-digested fishmeal
8.5% Calf or lambs milk powder such as Vitamelo
5% Equivite? Is there anything similar on ccmoore I can use instead of this?
Thanks
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   Old Thread  #503 29 Apr 2017 at 10.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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However, for those who can afford to create the ultimate bait, how would we change it?

Simple.
Just take any time proven bait recipe and just apply it better, more often & to more areas in your venue, give the fish more free food without hooks, to get them really wanting it.

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   Old Thread  #502 11 Apr 2017 at 12.53pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The mix has all you need, why change for the sake of it? They are only fish, not gourmets in some high class restaurant. The only thing I would add to this mix is a good dollop of hydrolyzed fish liquid in with the eggs. Anything else is superfluous. In fact, I would take some things out rather than add them.
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   Old Thread  #501 10 Apr 2017 at 6.58am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Hi all,

First post. Please be gentle...

Fascinating thread. Thanks to all who have contributed.

How would we change this mix if money was no issue? I know there is already a cheap bait thread and this appears to be a very good value HNV mix (and I note that smurf already clarified that it was a good value HNV, not a cheap HNV mix).

With limitless money, what would we change? Would we up the GLME/ RR/ Pre- dig?

I appreciate that not everyone can afford such changes and some would regard them as "buying your fish". However, for those who can afford to create the ultimate bait, how would we change it? Also, I know that the ultimate bait can be out fished off the next swim by a pack of shelf life tuttis....
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   Old Thread  #500 13 Jan 2017 at 3.37pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Hello,
I need some help about these boilie mix.

100g megablend
100g soya
100g protein concentrate
100g tiger nut flour
100g cornflour
100g hemp/millet seeds
150g wheat biting
150g rye flour
50g lamlac
30g birdfood (minced)
20g peanut flour

Is this a good balance of foods?
Thanks a lot!
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Mario
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   Old Thread  #499 12 Aug 2016 at 11.04am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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That is what the search option is for mate.
Type into KEYWORDS, dip glug and tick the FORUM topic, bait, search.
plenty of posts on your subject of interest.

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   Old Thread  #498 9 Aug 2016 at 6.44pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Changing the subject slightly, but does anyone know how I could make my own dip/glug for home-made boilies?
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   Old Thread  #497 15 Jun 2016 at 1.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Would that be a yes ??? Or what about a low oil peanut meal ??? It's only 40g that needs replacing in the mix
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   Old Thread  #496 15 Jun 2016 at 1.26pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #495 15 Jun 2016 at 7.25am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Post 458 mate was what I was referring to .
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   Old Thread  #494 14 Jun 2016 at 9.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I was referring to the mix that smurf has tweaked the hydrolyzed poultry meal is no longer available was wondering if you could use either of the to instead
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   Old Thread  #493 14 Jun 2016 at 8.32pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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BM1 - Why change it ? it works, and you know it works

Personally I think Pea protein is the latest bait fad, snapping at the heels of the other carp Tax buzzwords containing ...Krill, Tuna, and anything that is Nut based

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   Old Thread  #492 14 Jun 2016 at 6.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi all new to the forum . I have been using the original bm1 for a couple of years now very good bait put fishes all the bait my mates use . I've been looking at the below recipe and would it be possible to use hydrolyzed feather meal or yellow pea isolate powder as both have a good amino acid profile and protein content just a thought
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