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Had a little accident earlier while making some more leads, now this shows just how careful you have to be as i am certainly not a novice at this but one little lack in concentration covered my legs and feet in lead along with melting through my big z brolly and rod sleeves, rucksack etc
Luckily it didn't actually burn me (god knows how not) but it could have been so much worse!
God i loved that brolly 
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In reply to Post #1160
water expands by 1600x at atmospheric pressure when boiled.. so yeah make sure it is totally dry. The key with lead is not to let it boil, even a small amount when i've done lead welding will explode when boiled and i would hate to see what a 4oz lead would react like!
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Ash_carp already mentioned below and I'll reiterate Hot mould and ensure they are totally, totally dry.
The expansion rate of steam is phenominal, the slightest miosture left in a mould can see your molden lead spraying out.
I know from experience and still have the burns on the kitchen floor. I was lucky with gardening gloves on the splashes on my hand were fortunately not injurous.
Do not even consider cooling moulds with water. At least leave them for 30 mins.
Stay safe fellas
Probably already been mentioned but..... remember to make sure the moulds are nice and hot as well before pouring the molten lead into them 
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My PC just sent 2 replys.........................sorry!! 
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Does anyone know where I can get a distance lead mould for a 3.75oz that's 106Gram lead from? Same as the fox ones. All the moulds I have seen so far are in 1oz or 0.5oz increments.
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In reply to Post #37
Gav it takes a man to admit his mistakes mate,im so glad your OK.
if you want to build a lean to i have some plastic sheets you can have for the roof mate.
go nice against that wall you have. ring me if you want some at least it would put a roof over your head.
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Probably already been mentioned but..... remember to make sure the moulds are nice and hot as well before pouring the molten lead into them
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In reply to Post #35
will read these posts, with great interest, as i am going to make my own leads, have been buying all the stuff required
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In reply to Post #34
Also, don't ever drop any water into the boiling lead or you'll get melted lead popping out everwhere. I used to cool my leads in water, one was no good so i put it back in the pot wet, got a shock to say the least.
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In reply to Post #33
glad your ok gav and take care mate
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In reply to Post #32
Thats a coincidence, me and a mate made a load this morning without the mishap, we used a double burner with a smallish boiling pot which makes it very stable, i know how easy it is to knock or pull something over, that is why when doing anything involving heat....especially molten lead, you have to be on your mettle (excuse the pun!) its always easier if there is two of you as the person clamping the moulds and pouring the lead can really concentrate on what he is doing whilst the second person can clean them up and coat them, we got a nice rythym going, done it in an outbuilding with the door open and an extractor on and still had to heat the mould up just before the initial pour and a few times in between as the ambient temp did make a difference, i would say to anyone that makes lead to make sure the pot is on a very stable gas ring so that even if you do happen to catch or knock it, there is a chance it may not topple over
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Hope this is ok Gav...I have moved this in here and stickied it for a while so it gets better coverage as its a safety issue 
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In reply to Post #30
Bloody hell mate  glad to hear you came away unscathed!!
Brollys etc. can be replaced, eyes can't.
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #29
Lucky enough I have all the right ppe but it was just carelessness that caused it, totally my fault and a mistake I will not be making again!
Only posted this to make others aware of just how easy accidents happen with something so dangerous
Thanks for all the replies and messages though fella's it's appreciated.
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In reply to Post #28
Glad to hear you were ok fella .
I worked for NI electricity for 10yrs as a cable jointer and saw some absolutely horrific accidents with pots of solder .like the guy who ,in a rush to finnish up , caught the solder pot with the hose of the gas torch and pulled it off the footpath reslulting from in the pot spilling down one of the legs of his welly , never heard a human being scream like that before or since , thank god .
His injuries were horrific and resulted in him being permanently retired aswell as disabled .
Never never melt lead in anything other than a proper cast iron solder pot and always use proper ppe .ie goggles and heavy leather gloves .
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In reply to Post #24
 classic
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In reply to Post #1
Sooo glad your ok Gav FFS be careful matey
40 years ago I was blinded for 6 weeks luckily my eyes healed and my sight came back
that was molten lead poured in to a wet house brick it exploded out straight into both my eyes 
worst 6 weeks of my life big respect to South Middlesex Hospital. Mogden Lane, Isleworth, though 
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mate i feel for ya ... and you were lucky ... i had a preasure cooker go pop in my face a year or so again ... i was lucky and only had 2nd degree burns ...but iam still good looking 
smokey 
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In reply to Post #24
like it
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i had 16 stone of lead and i made weights with all of it. had a few issues. just about to take saucepan off the oven and handle fell off . then another time the pan started to melt. one night while living at home i put the pan down in the middle of the kitchen carpet right in the middle of a pattern part. so i cut the shape out and replaced it with a bit from under the tumble dryer. only problem was it was still new looking so i covered it in mud and matched it up. then nailed it down. i got away with it for a couple of years. until it started to turn up at the edges.
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In reply to Post #22
lucky escape there gav ive made leads a few times now and i must admit it doubt ill be doing them again , anyway glad your ok bet you had to change your pants after it happened
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #21
Thanks Paul appreciated fella 
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In reply to Post #18
Glad to see you are ok Gav , sod the tackle thats replaceable mate
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #19
Thanks Tel it was a little hairy as the pan went over shall we say 
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In reply to Post #18
pleased your ok Gav m8
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #17
It is well ventilated its got a bloody 5x3ft door wide open don't get much more ventilated than that 
It didn't blow everywhere fella, i pulled the pot over by accident  
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In reply to Post #16
why did it blow every hwere was it hot meets cold?
bloody fumes are dangerous enough. you should be in a well ventialted area young man,.
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #15
I know fella and that did hit it home to say the least, thats the only time the pan has ever moved and i even done the usual of checking it before lighting etc and all was sturdy but obviously not good enough!
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In reply to Post #13
just thankful that i had to take my rods etc out first otherwise i would have been sitting here severly pissed off instead of being just pissed off
to bloody right gav you were lucky full stop mate 
i no if those rods would have been in there sleeves you would have been gutted mate,
but again gav you would be in A&E right now if that lead had gone over you 
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #12
Yes mate afraid so, £1.30 from the shop for the time being
No i will still do them just won't be in there on a worktop again i am back to being outside
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #6
Cheers Garry, I know how lucky i was just so glad that didn't happen obviously!
As for the tackl,e not happy but lesson learnt, just thankful that i had to take my rods etc out first otherwise i would have been sitting here severly pissed off instead of being just pissed off
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In reply to Post #1
Glad your ok Gavin.
Does the loss of kit mean a price hike 
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #9
Think i got away with it quite lightly really, i have all the masks and goggles, gloves etc and have made god knows how many but it just shows you must concentrate at all times!
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In reply to Post #1
had a similar near miss many years ago making sea fishing leads,
i was sitting by the shed door doing the moulds whilst my brother put the lead in the pot.
as we were chatting, he didn't check a piece of old piping quite as thoroughly as he should've.
one almighty bang later, luckily i rolled behind the door with no more than splatter up my arm, which i've still got the pock-mark scars from to this day!
right behind where my face would've been if i'd still been sitting up was a great big lump of molten lead that had burnt its way into a box.
if that had hit me in the face, well i'd be a damn sight uglier now. but i wouldn't be able to see it!
ever since that day, i've bought my leads.
bloody dangerous stuff, molten lead. would never do it again without the full PPE set-up, gloves, goggles, apron etc.
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In reply to Post #7
maybe get yourself one of those thick leather aprons.
and some leather chaps to match 
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In reply to Post #1
My mrs looked a bit like that last nite after i finished on her!
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In reply to Post #1
F.me gavin you got lucky not burning yourself,what happened ?maybe get yourself one of those thick leather aprons.
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In reply to Post #1
bloody hell gav
glad your ok though mate and i no its ruined a bit of tackle but that can be replaced
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #4
No mate was trying to do to many things at once and while holding a roll of lead letting it melt in the pan i turned round to grab the moulds and pulled the pan over.
That pink thing on the left hand side of the picture is an inch thick mdf wooden lid off of my daughters old toy box that i had made into a nice worktop so i didn't have to sit on a bucket outside hence looking like it does!
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OMG! Did you see a ghost or something..............
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| | | GAVIN | | Posts: 4124 | | | aka ShortStack | |
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In reply to Post #2
Yes mate i think i was
Lesson learnt, back to making them on the patio, cold or not!!!
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In reply to Post #1
WTF!!!
Bit lucky there i think Gav!
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