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In reply to Post #173
surely with all of our govt experts a vaccine would have been developed a long time ago.......
personally, i`d have thought they would look at the cost of producing a vaccine,
look at how many people are affected by it each year,
then decide to save themselves a fortune & just tell everyone "dont touch rat piss....." 
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In reply to Post #171
although if a vaccine for humans is available now, then i stand corrected.
hey, what do i know?  surely with all of our govt experts a vaccine would have been developed a long time ago.......
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In reply to Post #169
just off the phone from the doctors regarding the jab against the disease,,they are gonna get back to me this morning so i will let you know the outcome ,,got to be worth getting ,, 
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In reply to Post #170
& as far as im aware, ken is correct.
although if a vaccine for humans is available now, then i stand corrected.
i think oldfellah was suggesting it would be a good idea without actually knowing one way or another.
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In reply to Post #169
post 92 from ken reads........
Yes, you are correct, no vaccine exists, contrary to some opinions.
that leaves me a bit confused you see bryan 
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In reply to Post #168
in·oc·u·late (-nky-lt)
tr.v. in·oc·u·lat·ed, in·oc·u·lat·ing, in·oc·u·lates
1. To introduce a serum, vaccine, or antigenic substance into (the body of a person or animal), especially to produce or boost immunity to a specific disease.
got a jab, to you & me!
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In reply to Post #167
whats innoculated oldfella read this elsewhere last night but there was only the term and not the meaning
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In reply to Post #166
Lots of good advice Ken but surely the mosr eefective way to ensure this horrible desease is not a threat is simply get innoculated against it.
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In reply to Post #165
Anthony: I guess it is virtually impossible to avoid contact with possibly contaminated water. Each time you pick up a fish for the pic, when you handle the west net, sling or sack; there are many situations in day to day carp fishing when it is inevitable that the angler comes in contact with water.
I think what we have tried to do in this thread is remind anglers of the risks involved and how to try to prevent infection. Should the bacteria take hold - and remember it only rarely does so - we have outlined the symptoms and the necessary course of action to take if you think you have been affected.
I would imagine many anglers are attacked by the leptospirosis bacteria every year but only a small percentage go on to catch the Disease. We live in a risky world and avoiding risk is just about impossible. That said, things like washing your hands in the lake, or pouring a bucket of water over someone certainly do not help reduce the risk.
I am now a firm believer of taking precautions against the bacteria as I never want to go through that illness again...EVER! It was horrible and at one stage instead of thinking I was going to die, I was actually hoping I was!.
So to sum up: Yes we are all at risk, and though the risk is slight, it is foolish to think that it will not happen to you.
Therefore:
1) Take the precautions outlined previously, including frequent use of an anti-bacteria wipe or gel.
2) If you think that you have been put at risk and start to feel a bit chesty and heady with the flu coming on, BE AWARE that it might not be flu and get yourself to the dotor's lickety-split. 
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In reply to Post #163
from a journalists point of view ken do you think that the other writers/ editors should stop telling people that washing their hands in lake water before handling their baits should be stopped? from my point of view i used to do this a lot but felt the need wasnt there so stopped doing it, what with working with masonry a lot i usually end up with a good handfull of cuts on my hands between monday and friday 
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In reply to Post #163
maybe as a thought we could have the posts of your pics at the top to show the importance of this thread ,,
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This thread is now 163 posts long...To anyone coming to the thread for the 1st time and thinking, well I'll just read a page or two, please read it from post 1...It will open you eyes, I can tell you!
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In reply to Post #160
Bravo fella, if everyone keeps posting little titbits like that then eventially we'll have a thread that has all the info you'll need
wraith
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In reply to Post #159
DP 
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In reply to Post #159
hi wraith i got this fact sheet from a fishery management course run by the EA some time last year.will also try to find the link.....
Weil's Disease? (Leptospirosis)
Weil's disease is an infection carried in rats urine which contaminates water and banks of lakes, ponds and rivers.
The disease which is notifiable is serious and requires hospital treatment. Symptoms start 3 to 19 days after exposure to contaminated water.
Early symptoms are similar to 'Flu'A few sensible precautions
DO cover with waterproof plasters or gloves all scratches, cuts, sores and breaks in the skin. Disinfect any wounds soon as possible if they occur
whilst at the waterside.
ALWAYS wash your hands or cover food with a wrapper before you eat.
NEVER put your hand to your mouth after immersion in river water and never place bait or fishing line in the mouth.
DON'T touch any dead animal especially rats.
NEVER leave food, groundbait or bait on the bankside.AND ALWAYS TAKE YOUR RUBBISH HOME!!!!
An attack of Weil's Disease resembles a cold or flu in the initial stages. The incubation period is from 3 to 19days
Early Symptoms are: Fever, Muscular aches and pains, loss of appetite, nausea when lying down.
Later Symptoms may include: Bruising of the skin, Sore eyes, Nose bleeds, Jaundice.
The fever lasts for approximately five days, then a significant deterioration follows.
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