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   Old Thread  #1  18 Apr 2007 at 2.57pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Can I just remind you all, now that more of us are getting out and about, to be very careful where rats are present. Their urine carries a bacteria that leads to leptospirosis and then Weil's Disease, which can be fatal. I am sure you have all read the warnings and horror stories and you all say "this will never happen to me." Well so did I...BUT I was wrong.

If you want to spend five weeks eating hospital food, all the time not knowing if you'll be coming out in a box, well don't bother taking precautions. However, let this photo tell it's own story. This is what I looked like the day they let me out of hospital. Talk about dead man walking!






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   Old Thread  #1201 22 Jul 2016 at 11.51am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Ok being an ignorance is bliss angler until I read this yesterday (seen loads topping up kettles from lakes over the years but not me though as thought you had to drink lake water to get it WD, I thought I knew better) I must have ducked many bullets over the years, can you point me in the right direction? So when spodding I have always had two buckets, X1 for bait X1 with lake water for rinsing my hands in between casts yes I used antibacterial gel when finished but looks like I was kidding myself, I guess one quick dip in contaminated water and one unnoticed cut means you are in big trouble! So what is the solution? Can I boil lake water with a dedicated kettle for the job to kill WD for a rinse bucket or do I need to take more fresh water? The thought of this makes me feel ill
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   Old Thread  #1200 3 Feb 2016 at 12.51pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Just a quick bump to warn you all that thanks to the very mild winter rats are as active as ever so take all the necessary precautions. A very close fishing mate of mine has just been diagnosed with Weils Disease so be warned.
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   Old Thread  #1199 10 Jan 2016 at 8.40pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
The tubs of Big Wipes that are found in builders merchants etc, are stated to protect against Weils disease.
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   Old Thread  #1198 24 Jun 2015 at 1.34pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Ive just been told today by my brother that a mate of mine has been diagnosed with Weils disease and he does not fish.
Hes a painter and decorator and has been working in a mansion in Manchester Sq, London. All his tools ect are left in the basement of the place.
He felt unwell sometime ago, went to the doctor who sent him for tests and they couldnt find anything wrong.
Eventually they sent him to a hospital to have a liver biop and blood tests.After 5/6 weeks he got the results back and not what he was expecting at all. They have confirmed that it is Weils disease. My brother went to finish the job off for him went into the basement and the whole worktop, table, draining board were covered in rats droppings cups and mugs the same even over the top of the kettle.There was a dead rat behind a chair and another behind a wooden box. My brother phoned his wife and told her what he had just seen in the basement.She phoned his doctor and the hospital and told them what my brother had seen and the doctor said it was almost certainly from there .When the owners were told what the diagnosis was with my mate their first reply was, OH I SUPPOSE HE WANTS TO SUE US NOW THEN DOES HE ? Nice . Hes quite literally fighting for his life and these millionaires/billionaires are worried about being sued.It really does go to show how careful you should be when fishing /working wherever rats are. He really is OCD about cleanliness aswell
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   Old Thread  #1197 14 Feb 2015 at 11.50am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Very helpfull thread now about to order a few bottles of gel
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   Old Thread  #1196 19 Aug 2014 at 6.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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   Old Thread  #1195 19 Aug 2014 at 5.05pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Pleased to here he is off intensive care ..............wishing him a speedy recovery
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   Old Thread  #1194 19 Aug 2014 at 2.02pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Please be careful guys. My husband is currently in hospital on life support and renal failure. His symptoms last Tuesday was a headache that turned into the shivers. I thought he was coming down with man flu, Wednesday he stayed in bed all day and the same Thursday. Friday I left him at home and went out with the kids. Got back at around 4ish and he was struggling to breath. Took him the local A&E and well his now in ICU. IT has not been confirmed yet as apparently it can take 10 days for the tests to be confirmed.

Also a reminder to take out insurance and not just think your EHIC card will be ok. If i didnt have a mutuelle , even with having french Carte vital my bill would be in the thousands aleady.

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   Old Thread  #1193 10 Jul 2014 at 2.21pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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After something of a discussion and education about this with Ken, I am now a firm believer and fully support what he has to say.

Okay statistically one might feel that one is safe, but some NHS links just to refresh the memory, as it can kill:

Personal Protection Measures here

And if you think you might have symptoms, the link below gives some official guidance. The reality, as i'm sure judging by the life changing experiences of others, is far worse.

Treatment here

Hopefully we can kick off the discussion with rats and what we are going to do about them soon, as I hope there are many more like me, who feel they are a blight and risk we could do without. Perhaps one for another day as there are many pressing issues relating to Carp predation, but I'll be taking home all my rubbish, cleaning up not leaving anything for the rats on the bank like the vast majority of responsible anglers on here.

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   Old Thread  #1192 7 Jul 2014 at 10.35am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
In the light of the recent thread about rats, which went rather off topic towards the end, I thought this might be a timely occasion on which to bump this thread. It's very long, but contains all the information you may require concerning Weils Disease. Can I suggest it might be made a Sticky?
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   Old Thread  #1191 31 Jul 2013 at 6.25pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Lymes is another nasty, try and keep aware.
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   Old Thread  #1190 31 Jul 2013 at 5.18pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Once again...

To save you the trouble of going all the way back to the start of this thread, I'll re-post the pix...

Black tongue caused by the antibiotics used to treat me when I was hospitalised with Weils Disease in 2005.



After I came out of hospital. I lost 18kg in 10 days!



And back to my fighting weight over 2 years later...



And as a postscript: To date since then I have suffered a series of very nasty illnesses that I put down to never fully recovering from Weils.

Be careful out there...
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   Old Thread  #1189 31 Jul 2013 at 9.47am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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there is a hand sanitiser called dr weils check it out
www.drweils.co.uk
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   Old Thread  #1188 31 Jul 2013 at 8.17am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Its always okay to resurrect a thread like this I'm sure. If it raises awareness and educates just 1 more person then it's worth it. You might wanna search for a thread on ticks or Lymes Disease too!
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