In reply to Post #919
Agree. But in certain areas do you think a Christian church would go down well and be tolerated?
Agree. But in certain areas do you think a Christian church would go down well and be tolerated?
In reply to Post #918
Many many countries have immigrants and do not have the issues we seem to have here
What a load of bollox. I would say we are extremely tolerant compared to the Germans for starters!
Why, because it does not make the BBC news?
Edit - I also posted previously about how English people in other country's perceive the locals as foreigners, it is deeply embedded in our genes, hardly going to wipe that out easily are you. Same as it's embedded in all other people form other countries too!
Many many countries have immigrants and do not have the issues we seem to have here
What a load of bollox. I would say we are extremely tolerant compared to the Germans for starters!
Why, because it does not make the BBC news?
Edit - I also posted previously about how English people in other country's perceive the locals as foreigners, it is deeply embedded in our genes, hardly going to wipe that out easily are you. Same as it's embedded in all other people form other countries too!
In reply to Post #921
Christianity has been around a long time in every country in the world. Living side by side with all manor of religions for hundreds and in some cases over a thousand years. Persecution has gone on down the years especially in certain countries in the last couple of decades by extremist ideologies. People with extreme views cause conflict over others religion, they are in a minority.
Christianity has been around a long time in every country in the world. Living side by side with all manor of religions for hundreds and in some cases over a thousand years. Persecution has gone on down the years especially in certain countries in the last couple of decades by extremist ideologies. People with extreme views cause conflict over others religion, they are in a minority.
In reply to Post #917
I mentioned Havelock Road in Southall/Ealing the other day. The road has been there for hundreds of years and in 2003 they opened a gurdwara temple the largest outside of India. No problems so far.
But now they want to change the road name because it's offensive, if that's the case why would you build the gurdwara there in the first place? I suggest it was never a problem for 1000's of people who were happy to worship there but someone is trying to put unhelpful ideas into the minds of those people.
I mentioned Havelock Road in Southall/Ealing the other day. The road has been there for hundreds of years and in 2003 they opened a gurdwara temple the largest outside of India. No problems so far.
But now they want to change the road name because it's offensive, if that's the case why would you build the gurdwara there in the first place? I suggest it was never a problem for 1000's of people who were happy to worship there but someone is trying to put unhelpful ideas into the minds of those people.
In reply to Post #923
Agree. And more so a threat in other areas of the world, which was my point.
Agree. And more so a threat in other areas of the world, which was my point.
In reply to Post #922
That proves my point then doesn't it? We are too tolerable as an authority against it. And by issues I mean level of issues we seem to have here, but then it plays in to media narrative to highlight foreign criminals and not British ones.
It's ironic that people moan about foreigners and then do the exact same thing abroad. It basically means you can't complain about exporting culture to another country however right or wrong you feel it is. When British people go abroad and respect the laws and culture all the time then people can moan about it. IMO anyway
That proves my point then doesn't it? We are too tolerable as an authority against it. And by issues I mean level of issues we seem to have here, but then it plays in to media narrative to highlight foreign criminals and not British ones.
It's ironic that people moan about foreigners and then do the exact same thing abroad. It basically means you can't complain about exporting culture to another country however right or wrong you feel it is. When British people go abroad and respect the laws and culture all the time then people can moan about it. IMO anyway
In reply to Post #918
Ironic that when brits go abroad they don't respect the values of other countries or the language either
I think if other countries encourage us to take holidays and spend money in their countries then there's no need to learn a second language but we should behave respectfully. However I think if we go to live abroad it goes without saying to act respectfully and we must make every effort to learn their language.
Ironic that when brits go abroad they don't respect the values of other countries or the language either
I think if other countries encourage us to take holidays and spend money in their countries then there's no need to learn a second language but we should behave respectfully. However I think if we go to live abroad it goes without saying to act respectfully and we must make every effort to learn their language.
In reply to Post #925
Yes but it's relatively new is the point. Why? Extreme ideologies hijacking religions to further their cause. The IRA is a case in point. Hijacked a civil rights movement that was campaigning for one person one vote for Catholics. Which was denied to them by the voting system in NI even in 1969. The rest is history. There you go Greeki back to democracy
Yes but it's relatively new is the point. Why? Extreme ideologies hijacking religions to further their cause. The IRA is a case in point. Hijacked a civil rights movement that was campaigning for one person one vote for Catholics. Which was denied to them by the voting system in NI even in 1969. The rest is history. There you go Greeki back to democracy
In reply to Post #924
It's as simple as this for me. This country was founded on Christian values and our society has been built around our values. The values where our forefathers put their lives in the lines to make it what it is today (dare I say that). Respect and abide by our values. If you do not like it then the simple message for me is, **** off!
We are quite a tolerable country where everybody gets a free education and healthcare, a couple of things, like many such as freedom, etc etc what go together to make this country great, the same couple of things everybody wants a piece of and if you want a piece of this then respect the rest of our values and society, it comes as a package, you can't pick and choose, the message is simple again, if you do not like it, **** off somewhere better or somewhere what will tolerate you wishes
I am proud to be British and I am proud of our country. Anybody who lives here should be the same and if you don't like the flavour then go somewhere else, it's simple for me
White British, that's whats on most surveys (used to be Caucasian, mongols and Africans, three main races). In this country that is what the majority of people are and that is what our country and values are built around. If your a minority then you need to accept this, even though we do tolerate a lot of other stuff and offer peoples dreams and wishes. They are a minority. Just the same as I would be if I went to live in Africa. Africa would be the number 1 tickbox, White British probably wouldn't have one
I am sick to the back teeth or people screaming out that this is wrong and that is. Too many hypocrites in this country and society at the moment. We do it our way, and we even let you do it your way but we can only tolerate so much. if you don't like it, **** off
It's as simple as this for me. This country was founded on Christian values and our society has been built around our values. The values where our forefathers put their lives in the lines to make it what it is today (dare I say that). Respect and abide by our values. If you do not like it then the simple message for me is, **** off!
We are quite a tolerable country where everybody gets a free education and healthcare, a couple of things, like many such as freedom, etc etc what go together to make this country great, the same couple of things everybody wants a piece of and if you want a piece of this then respect the rest of our values and society, it comes as a package, you can't pick and choose, the message is simple again, if you do not like it, **** off somewhere better or somewhere what will tolerate you wishes
I am proud to be British and I am proud of our country. Anybody who lives here should be the same and if you don't like the flavour then go somewhere else, it's simple for me
White British, that's whats on most surveys (used to be Caucasian, mongols and Africans, three main races). In this country that is what the majority of people are and that is what our country and values are built around. If your a minority then you need to accept this, even though we do tolerate a lot of other stuff and offer peoples dreams and wishes. They are a minority. Just the same as I would be if I went to live in Africa. Africa would be the number 1 tickbox, White British probably wouldn't have one
I am sick to the back teeth or people screaming out that this is wrong and that is. Too many hypocrites in this country and society at the moment. We do it our way, and we even let you do it your way but we can only tolerate so much. if you don't like it, **** off
In reply to Post #927
Without our input from tourism they would be flat on theirs arses places like Spain and Greece etc.
I agree though, we should respect there values the same as we expect them to respect ours
Do you go to Spain to have pie and chips spot do you go to experience their culture, each to their own I guess
Without our input from tourism they would be flat on theirs arses places like Spain and Greece etc.
I agree though, we should respect there values the same as we expect them to respect ours
Do you go to Spain to have pie and chips spot do you go to experience their culture, each to their own I guess
It's 'tolerant', not 'tolerable' everyone. FFS.
In reply to Post #931
Start a new thread, English lessons, some may participate, some may not
Tolerable
of a quality that is acceptable, although certainly not good:
Start a new thread, English lessons, some may participate, some may not
Tolerable
of a quality that is acceptable, although certainly not good:
In reply to Post #929
Giod job many people decided to fight for change in our history rather than fookin off. King Charles 1st would have been made up if Cromwell had heeded that advice.
Giod job many people decided to fight for change in our history rather than fookin off. King Charles 1st would have been made up if Cromwell had heeded that advice.
In reply to Post #930
I went to Magaluf a few years back and wanted to experience a proper paella and trimmings. A kid you not there was not one restaurant selling Spanish food. What do you expect if you went to Magaluf I hear you say?
And the reason is they want us to come over and spend our money so they gear up their resort to maximise their income.
I'm not saying that's wrong but if you don't want boozy Brits in your country don't cater for them
PS
I was respectful and behaved myself while I was there
I went to Magaluf a few years back and wanted to experience a proper paella and trimmings. A kid you not there was not one restaurant selling Spanish food. What do you expect if you went to Magaluf I hear you say?
And the reason is they want us to come over and spend our money so they gear up their resort to maximise their income.
I'm not saying that's wrong but if you don't want boozy Brits in your country don't cater for them
PS
I was respectful and behaved myself while I was there
In reply to Post #933