In reply to Post #554
It's a stalemate because neither will be willing to change unless the other attitude does.
now if approached I will not give them the time of day
That doesn't help does it?
My youngest daughter got in trouble with the police, said she was sorry and attended YOS what would have happened if she had kicked off?
The following link is not meant to offend but sounds like this woman is ready to make a change
LINK
It's a stalemate because neither will be willing to change unless the other attitude does.
now if approached I will not give them the time of day
That doesn't help does it?
My youngest daughter got in trouble with the police, said she was sorry and attended YOS what would have happened if she had kicked off?
The following link is not meant to offend but sounds like this woman is ready to make a change
LINK
In reply to Post #557
Hi Greekskii,
Your post is, in more detail, pointing out some of the social problems facing US blacks in inner cities that I've been saying is keeping them in social deprivation, and immersed in a victim culture.
As for the causes and reasons for it, I pointed out in previous posts that the welfare system encourages father absence and the increase, now of 70% , in mother only families living on welfare.
I also pointed out that most cities with large inner city black communities have been governed by Democrat politicians for decades, with little improvements to the problems that blacks face. They are mostly, the cities which harbour most of the 10 million+ illegal immigrants that compete with blacks for jobs. It's also worth noting that Democrats rely on 90% of the black vote in elections.
I also pointed out that, since being in office, Trump with the help and advice of the black Senator, Tim Scott have together, instigated policies directly for improvements to black and ethnic communities, the most important being the Opportunity Zones Legislation, which has raised 75 billion dollars of private funding, being invested in 1000s of designated poor areas across the US. Look back at my post 191 to see the other improvement policies. Remember that, before coronavirus, Trump's economic policies had raised economic growth and low ethnic unemployment to record levels.
Re prisons, Trump has introduced the 1st Step Act, which released 1000s of blacks imprisoned by the 1994 Crime Bill, which was introduced by the Clinton administration.
It's good to see that policies have been introduced that are addressing the problems of ethnic minorities, but it won't be a quick fix because real change takes years to come into effect.
BB.
Hi Greekskii,
Your post is, in more detail, pointing out some of the social problems facing US blacks in inner cities that I've been saying is keeping them in social deprivation, and immersed in a victim culture.
As for the causes and reasons for it, I pointed out in previous posts that the welfare system encourages father absence and the increase, now of 70% , in mother only families living on welfare.
I also pointed out that most cities with large inner city black communities have been governed by Democrat politicians for decades, with little improvements to the problems that blacks face. They are mostly, the cities which harbour most of the 10 million+ illegal immigrants that compete with blacks for jobs. It's also worth noting that Democrats rely on 90% of the black vote in elections.
I also pointed out that, since being in office, Trump with the help and advice of the black Senator, Tim Scott have together, instigated policies directly for improvements to black and ethnic communities, the most important being the Opportunity Zones Legislation, which has raised 75 billion dollars of private funding, being invested in 1000s of designated poor areas across the US. Look back at my post 191 to see the other improvement policies. Remember that, before coronavirus, Trump's economic policies had raised economic growth and low ethnic unemployment to record levels.
Re prisons, Trump has introduced the 1st Step Act, which released 1000s of blacks imprisoned by the 1994 Crime Bill, which was introduced by the Clinton administration.
It's good to see that policies have been introduced that are addressing the problems of ethnic minorities, but it won't be a quick fix because real change takes years to come into effect.
BB.
In reply to Post #561
Wow, that is pretty powerful but when you hear it from experience it certainly brings it home!
Respect the badge. Very good point. It's called the law and the reality is, NOBODY is above it even if they think they are
That's a good starting point because a lot do not so that is the first part of the escalation spiral when dealing with people
Said it earlier in the thread. The number of times black people get arrested and play the race card, “is it because I'm black” is unreal. No it's because you committed a crime you ****ing retard
Wow, that is pretty powerful but when you hear it from experience it certainly brings it home!
Respect the badge. Very good point. It's called the law and the reality is, NOBODY is above it even if they think they are
That's a good starting point because a lot do not so that is the first part of the escalation spiral when dealing with people
Said it earlier in the thread. The number of times black people get arrested and play the race card, “is it because I'm black” is unreal. No it's because you committed a crime you ****ing retard
In reply to Post #561
As I said it's from my personal negative experiences, all whilst innocent. Tasers, physicality, stupidity and even verbal abuse. Formal complaints snubbed.
I'm sure many people have much worse done to them.
This is what I mean about the lack of respect coming from the police actions and why normal people don't want to entertain nonsense from them. It's why many people know their rights inside out so they can get rid of them as quickly as possible.
As I said it's from my personal negative experiences, all whilst innocent. Tasers, physicality, stupidity and even verbal abuse. Formal complaints snubbed.
I'm sure many people have much worse done to them.
This is what I mean about the lack of respect coming from the police actions and why normal people don't want to entertain nonsense from them. It's why many people know their rights inside out so they can get rid of them as quickly as possible.
In reply to Post #563
Spot on that mate
Spot on that mate
In reply to Post #564
I think you said a while back that although your name is not typically British you're not black so maybe it was down to your attitude and your body language?
I think you said a while back that although your name is not typically British you're not black so maybe it was down to your attitude and your body language?
In reply to Post #566
Or a black and white horizontal striped jumper perhaps?
Or a black and white horizontal striped jumper perhaps?
In reply to Post #566
Yeah I don't think it was racial towards me. Just police being power hungry pr*cks and buzzing off it.
Being slammed against a wall for trying to give someone who's been arrested their glasses back isn't warranted and then threatened with arrest 🤷🏻♂️
Being threatened with arrest and using physical means to move me when they try and arrest my brother for getting rizla and filters out his own car 🤷🏻♂️
Having a taser pointed at you (And everything associated with it including being handcuffed) for no reason other than there was someone they were chasing in the area, incidentally didn't match my description at all 🤷🏻♂️
Being blocked in a parking space because I “took a left turn after it looked like I was going to go right when we were behind you” just because we were a group of young lads in a car 🤷🏻♂️
There's a few other incidents as well.
In each incident totally innocent but treated like a criminal. Even though this country works on the basis of innocent until proven guilty? Those are my experiences and why I have little time for police anymore. I know my rights so I don't say a word to them anymore if they engage with me. I have little respect because the power trip runs from top to bottom.
Yeah I don't think it was racial towards me. Just police being power hungry pr*cks and buzzing off it.
Being slammed against a wall for trying to give someone who's been arrested their glasses back isn't warranted and then threatened with arrest 🤷🏻♂️
Being threatened with arrest and using physical means to move me when they try and arrest my brother for getting rizla and filters out his own car 🤷🏻♂️
Having a taser pointed at you (And everything associated with it including being handcuffed) for no reason other than there was someone they were chasing in the area, incidentally didn't match my description at all 🤷🏻♂️
Being blocked in a parking space because I “took a left turn after it looked like I was going to go right when we were behind you” just because we were a group of young lads in a car 🤷🏻♂️
There's a few other incidents as well.
In each incident totally innocent but treated like a criminal. Even though this country works on the basis of innocent until proven guilty? Those are my experiences and why I have little time for police anymore. I know my rights so I don't say a word to them anymore if they engage with me. I have little respect because the power trip runs from top to bottom.
In reply to Post #568
I have little respect because the power trip runs from top to bottom.
There we go Scozza you missus is included
Maybe it's you on the power trip?
Being threatened with arrest and using physical means to move me when they try and arrest my brother for getting rizla and filters out his own car
That's an easy one to understand. When in the presence of the police don't go into you car to get a weapon. Ok it wasn't a weapon but how's the police to know that, was it really important to get a Rizla at that precise moment?
No need to answer just trying to show how outsiders could look at it.
I have little respect because the power trip runs from top to bottom.
There we go Scozza you missus is included
Maybe it's you on the power trip?
Being threatened with arrest and using physical means to move me when they try and arrest my brother for getting rizla and filters out his own car
That's an easy one to understand. When in the presence of the police don't go into you car to get a weapon. Ok it wasn't a weapon but how's the police to know that, was it really important to get a Rizla at that precise moment?
No need to answer just trying to show how outsiders could look at it.
In reply to Post #569
I've seen the pattern throughout the thread mate. It's finally coming out now. All coppers are *******s
I've seen the pattern throughout the thread mate. It's finally coming out now. All coppers are *******s
In reply to Post #569
He was getting rizla out his glovebox whilst in the passenger side and they approached him as they thought he was robbing the car. After the checks were done and checked out they moved on to drink driving, he was in passenger side with keys in his pocket
I'm sure I've told you this story before.
They could have left once he checked out but they didn't. They wanted a collar and tried their hardest to get one. After they failed with him and I told him to just leave as they have no reason to detain him they started on me. Beggars belief really.
Not sure how you can say anything post checking his details were correct was required or justified. I get why they pulled over in the first place but again, they were aggressive from the off.
You can try and justify all of that however you want but it's impossible They were on a power trip looking for an arrest. All gee'd up they'd come across a crime in progress and when it wasn't they couldn't leave it.
He was getting rizla out his glovebox whilst in the passenger side and they approached him as they thought he was robbing the car. After the checks were done and checked out they moved on to drink driving, he was in passenger side with keys in his pocket
I'm sure I've told you this story before. They could have left once he checked out but they didn't. They wanted a collar and tried their hardest to get one. After they failed with him and I told him to just leave as they have no reason to detain him they started on me. Beggars belief really.
Not sure how you can say anything post checking his details were correct was required or justified. I get why they pulled over in the first place but again, they were aggressive from the off.
You can try and justify all of that however you want but it's impossible
They were on a power trip looking for an arrest. All gee'd up they'd come across a crime in progress and when it wasn't they couldn't leave it.
In reply to Post #571
I have heard these type of things from others but I also know plenty of others that don't have problems.
All I can say is I've not had any problems, the way my daughter acted didn't cause her any problems.
Let's hope you don't have another run in with the police but if you do and you act stroppy then they'll likely be consequences.
I have heard these type of things from others but I also know plenty of others that don't have problems.
All I can say is I've not had any problems, the way my daughter acted didn't cause her any problems.
Let's hope you don't have another run in with the police but if you do and you act stroppy then they'll likely be consequences.
In reply to Post #572
If you're innocent there can be no consequences. If I was guilty I probably wouldn't be hanging about to get caught!
As I said it's personal experience. Mine have been negative therefore I lack the trust and respect most people have in the police force as a whole organisation. I know it's not all of them but I don't plan on finding out which ones they are tbh.
My point was that it doesn't take much more than a few incidents whether you're involved or witness them to feel a certain way. Kids that grow up with crime around them more likely than not have little respect for the police. For criminals they are another enemy but I'm talking in general about normal people who see it and get profiled and have to deal with it. Telling them to suddenly just trust and respect the police will never work.
If you're innocent there can be no consequences. If I was guilty I probably wouldn't be hanging about to get caught!
As I said it's personal experience. Mine have been negative therefore I lack the trust and respect most people have in the police force as a whole organisation. I know it's not all of them but I don't plan on finding out which ones they are tbh.
My point was that it doesn't take much more than a few incidents whether you're involved or witness them to feel a certain way. Kids that grow up with crime around them more likely than not have little respect for the police. For criminals they are another enemy but I'm talking in general about normal people who see it and get profiled and have to deal with it. Telling them to suddenly just trust and respect the police will never work.
In reply to Post #572
Am I the only one who watches videos likethis and wishes they'd get the truncheons out?
Am I the only one who watches videos likethis and wishes they'd get the truncheons out?
Two weeks jail and a lifetime of embarrassment for that moron with the weak bladder.