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Using a boat. (62 posts / 9,483 views)
waser1
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Post #41 9 May 2020 08:25
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Garabina clips , imperial fishing make a floatation device if you prefer that just clips on .
IcantCatchCarp
Posts: 515
Post #42 9 May 2020 18:06
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A small anchor that you can just lift in to the boat? Can even have it on the bank and grab it as you get in the boat
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #43 9 May 2020 19:22
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Exactly what I do keep it very simple
a short length of rope needs to be not possible to foul on anything prop etc but with a big fixed loop over a bank stick just hop in the boat lift loop and away
Boycie Boycie
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Post #44 9 May 2020 19:52
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Pm'd you
Adamroybooth Adamroybooth
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Post #45 10 May 2020 10:38
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Just messaged Rob Eustace for you (Gold Label) and they have plenty of pro distance. Give bIRMINGHAM aNGLING cENTRE a call when the shops start to open up.
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #46 10 May 2020 11:07
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Very kind of you mate appreciate that, I'll give them a call 👍🏻
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #47 26 May 2020 10:57
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Right carrying on the theme of fishing at distance using a boat to bait and place the rigs, what type of lead setup and minimum weight do you guys recommend, this may be governed a bit by the rules I suppose, as I won't be allowed to use leaders of any type, the lake bed is supposedly firm and made up of clay, sand and gravel with little silt, but it can be rocky in places.
thesiluriain thesiluriain
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Post #48 26 May 2020 16:10
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Just use 2 pieces of conduit fixed together, they are designed to stick together, that gives you around 14ft,,,,
Thats what we do, and we araldite a large heavy bolt in the bottom of the tube, cork in the top....this avoids any gap at the base for line to get caught round....in practice it rarely happens anyway, but better safe than sorry..
WildCarpTours WildCarpTours
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Post #49 27 May 2020 16:49
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A lot will depend on the size of the lake and the range you are going. If you are fishing an expansive water where the water moves as the weather comes in out at 200 yards + it will be different to lets say a 50 acre lake at 100 yards. I've used anything between 4oz and 8oz on lakes.. A lot more on rivers.
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #50 27 May 2020 18:28
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Cheers mate, it's a 34 acres with the productive areas anything upto 190 meters where it's averaging 3 meters deep, I've bought a load of 4 oz flat pears thinking I'd fish with a lead clip setup then if undertow is a problem I can put 2 on, but ideally I'd rather not leave a load of lead in the lake so was thinking of making some big stones type leads that will drop on the take. But I wasn't sure if I'd be better of fishing helicopter rigs rather than lead clips?
WildCarpTours WildCarpTours
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Post #51 27 May 2020 18:49
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I've used both clips and helicopter setups and it just depends if its safer for me to dump the lead or not. Flat Pears are good or just use Grippa style leads. At that distance you want contact to be as direct as possible so dumping the lead on the take would be my preference.

At 34 acres are you only fishing from one bank? 190 metres seems a long way out?
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #52 27 May 2020 19:04
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The lake is split into 2 with a rope and buoys, we have half the lake exclusive just fishing from one bank, and from what I gather as everyone uses the boys as markers these have become the hotpots, I've checked the distances on Google earth and the minimum distance to the rope is about 130 with 200 in the middle swims. I've never really fish with helicopter rigs so would feel more confident using lead clips but would make the change if there was any massive benefits to using a heli setup, but with not much silt to worry about I can't really see any. If dropping the lead would be advantageous I'd rather just attach a swivel to a rock and use that as I don't really agree with dumping leads unless it's really essential for fish safety.
johnnyfubar johnnyfubar
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Post #53 28 May 2020 00:38
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Hi Chris,

There is no need to use lead when boating out, a large pebble or rock attached using the reverse bungee system will hold the rig in place and easily release upon a take.
I've always used either "lead clips" or bungeed straight onto the swivel between the mainline and the hooklink

Best

Jon
weaver83 weaver83
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Post #54 28 May 2020 01:16
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Thanks Jon, that sounds perfect. Would you be kind enough to explain the reverse bungee system as I'm not sure what you mean lol.
johnnyfubar johnnyfubar
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Post #55 28 May 2020 14:09
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Hi Chris

Its basically a weak link. I've recently been using 1.25lb pole elastic to get a vertical presentation off a tree branch, it basically breaks on the take but holds everything in position.
You can attach the preffered weight with either industrial rubber bands, drilling and gluing half swivels or cutting loops off the arms and legs off a second hand children's wetsuit (cost £2 and lasted ages)
Then attach the weak link to the weight (about 1.5 inch in length which will give indication of any nuisance fish takes) and the swivel that attaches your mainline to your hooklink.
With trial and error depending on the venue you can fish fairly tight lines at range doing this and the weight gets dropped every time.
If I've not explained this properly give me a pm and I'll give it another go at explaining it
Best
Jon
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