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vossy1
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   Old Thread  #907 23 Aug 2025 at 6.05pm  0  Login    Register
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How very dare you, leave Toprak alone, ageist, and trying to condemn us to MM monotony

Another metronomic performance from MM, good on the 46 boys.
I was going to say I liked the track but seems hard to pass which maybe not the best.
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   Old Thread  #906 23 Aug 2025 at 0.33am  0  Login    Register
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Nine year age of difference, at his age he is near the end of his career and on a bike getting a new engine format.
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   Old Thread  #905 22 Aug 2025 at 7.05pm  0  Login    Register
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Just another rookie from another class...having said that Aldeguer didn't do to bad in the last race, so you never know
Hope Martins o.k.
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   Old Thread  #904 22 Aug 2025 at 1.18pm  0  Login    Register
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Think people are expecting too much from toprak to early. He's used to riding whatever is essentially a modified production bike, all be it heavily modded but it's worlds away from a factory prototype. It's a big learning curve and a gradual process and if pushed too hard could end up being painfull at best and career ending at worst.
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   Old Thread  #903 25 Jul 2025 at 4.25pm  0  Login    Register
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Like him or lathe him you have to admire him, finished article, got the lot

Not quite, once he sorts the right handers out he will be though, for the mo he's good enough ...come on Toprak
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   Old Thread  #902 22 Jul 2025 at 10.14pm  1  Login    Register
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Agreed, he is the greatest rider I've ever watched . After fighting a brutal I'll handling honda for years the Ducati must be a dream. Equally as impressive is his ability to relax as Nd plan his strategy to perfection while riding at speed.
scozza
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   Old Thread  #901 22 Jul 2025 at 8.41pm  0  Login    Register
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Like him or lathe him you have to admire him, finished article, got the lot

Slower start finding the edges of the tyres, race pace, sliding it in and squaring it off, super aggressive, pleasure to watch, levels above the others and there is some top talent there!
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   Old Thread  #900 21 Jul 2025 at 9.58pm  0  Login    Register
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Makes me wonder at times if MM is holding back. That farce with tyre pressures and the ease with which he regained the lead again...hmm
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   Old Thread  #899 21 Jul 2025 at 1.24pm  0  Login    Register
Another masterclass from MM, arguably the new GOAT

Looks super smooth on the Ducati
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   Old Thread  #898 20 Jul 2025 at 12.36pm  0  Login    Register
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The bikes have to conform to the minimum weight limit, there isn't a great deal of difference in the weight of riders currently in Moto GP, The lightest current MotoGP rider is Marco Bezzecchi, weighing 61 kg, while the heaviest is Luca Marini, weighing 69 kg. If you look at the bike and rider weight and compare their power to weight ratio's the power makes the biggest difference.
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   Old Thread  #897 18 Jul 2025 at 9.56am  0  Login    Register
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I love Ducati's and have a few, premium motorbikes that put a beaming smile on your face, the Ferrari of the bike world.

I was never a big fan of Fogerty though for that reason, I think he had a distinct advantage at the time on the Ducati!

The leveler would be all the same manufacturers like they have in some classes but for the premier class, I guess people want to see the bikes they own do well and you could question would it bring the same excitement as someone cruising on a Ducati with ridiculous straight line speed and a bloke riding the absolute nuts off a BMW
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   Old Thread  #896 17 Jul 2025 at 6.59pm  0  Login    Register
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Got to agree...to a point. I think the bikes should be, within reason, equal, leaving only the riders ability as the difference...but...to me that means the best riders will be right on the edge all the time v other riders who aren't, and I'm not sure that's right or even how to get round it.
Those great riders will the be at more risk.

Not really sure what's happened to VdM or Ianonne
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   Old Thread  #895 15 Jul 2025 at 7.40am  0  Login    Register
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Best thing they did for me, Batista was like a fly on that V4, at one point 12 bike lengths on the straights, like cheating and the riders knew it. Credit to Ducati of course for building such a monster!

As a fan you know who the best riders are, Toprak, look at VdM on the same machine! NB is getting a lot more out of the Ducati than AB but again, the Ducati is far the superior bike. Toprak is riding the nuts of that BMW all the time and he is the king on the brakes and probably one of the main reasons he can compete with Ducati. Cant wait while he joins MotoGP, i can see some elbow to elbow action with MM

I guess the test will be how he transitions to carbon brakes and the equivalent diamond encrusted bike!
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   Old Thread  #894 14 Jul 2025 at 9.26pm  0  Login    Register
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Personally I'm not a fan of weight penalties. Ok a lower weight rider has an advantage in power to weight ratio but riders move around on the bike placing weight where they want it while a fixed weight penalty obviously cannot be moved.
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   Old Thread  #893 14 Jul 2025 at 6.32pm  0  Login    Register
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Yep, beaten Agostinis record now, Rossi next, can't see him not doing it!

Interesting re additional weights on the bikes in WSB, can't rem who it is but started at 5kg, still didn't stop him, now 7.5kg and can't compete.
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