I don't if some else has already has said this but carp nut on twitter gave me a great idea for a particle mix, its pigeon conditioner, boil for 20/30 mins/ add sugar and salt and leave in a air sealed bucket for at least 3 days and i have to say the results amazed me, its well worth a try and is very cheap!

I haven't used them before but blakes baits seem very cheap.
they have lots of boilies , pellets and a lot more.
I would say if you're stalking, I would buy the most complicated and expensive bait out there - value sweetcorn.
The cheaper the better.
1kilo bag will last a while and can cost £1 or so

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Lol, is this Paul from Active bait solutions , formerly destiny baits

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I'm having PC issues mate - reading from my iPhone - loaded it as a new message , don't think I'll be getting a reply to that then ,

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come on Rab...wake up fella...lol

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Lol, I know terrible - slap on the hand

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If you are using a good Pigeon Conditioner there wont be any maize in it, (try Bucktons), so if you boil it for that long you will turn a good many of the small seeds to mush. We are only talking match head size seeds here after all.
Simply cover your Conditioner with boiling water, snap on the bucket lid, and the next morning you will have a beautifully prepared Particle mix.
Add Salt or sugar after you have prepared your seeds.

BOF

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I use LF Baits

there also looking for testers !!

monthly deals on baits and cheap 2 !!

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I'm one of the old fogeys that turn out their own baits rather than buy them ready made, and a quick check has shown that they can work out at under £2.50 per kg of dry mix. Chuck in 9 eggs per kg (Farm Foods per pack of 15), and a little Cod Liver Oil (Tesco's), and that gives around £3.54 per kilo.

However that is dry weight, a kilo of dry mix yields quite a lot more than a kilo of baits, more like 25% more due to the weight of the eggs, oil, and the water that the baits absorb during the boiling process. So that means you can knock up a kilo of reasonable Fishmeal baits for around £2.70 per kilo, and as the advert goes, the feeling you get from using your own baits..... "priceless".

BOF

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Shame he dosent do an out and out fishmeal bait

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I forgot, don't forget to try adding Chili flakes or powder just for a change.

BOF

I don't really do cheap bait any more. Never liked or rated particles much, hate the stink and mess basically, and gone right off pellets. Pellets can at times be deadly, especially in the later months before the freeze up, but are too inconsistent for me and I feel that on some waters they are just done to death and blown a bit. They aren't very nice for fish either, far too fatty.
There are some great low oil pellets about though, headed of course by Sticky Baits lovely award winning ones..

I have a bit of a special mix of one or two fine delicacy type foods that are very unusual in carp circles and I put them in a mix with one or two twists that I have developed over the years with two different crumbed premium fresh frozen boilies from two completely different bait companies (which is something I very rarely hear of people doing).. both are unusual boilies, and both are new on the scene, one is very new.. they seem to work magic together and switch the carp on.

I don't use any potions, mainly because I'm on a budget but I found that glugs can often work against you. I prefer to mix up my own ''glug'' of sorts using hemp juice and one or two things from the kitchen cupboard

I made sure I told the bailiff what I was using without telling him my whole mix as he doesn't need to know the other stuff what with it being the usual acceptable frozen boilies etc. and asked him to keep it quiet and if the stuff was acceptable. I got the green light from them. I told him that as it was so dear I hardly use much.

I've baited very light for some years now and found I like the softly softly approach anyway.

I think that with the rising costs of fishmeals and overfishing of krill etc. in the news recently we all need to be aware of these things and take our bait a bit under our own wing as it were.. I mean use your imagination, be different, and experiment with making up some mixes not always going down the premium expensive fishy readymade route.

Most of the top companies provide very simple 50/50 type base mixes and suggestions and they are of course a brilliant starting point, they are often very happy to help people interested in their gear, just ring them up, appreciate that they are busy, be polite and ask them for a quick simple mix. They have all sorts of nice ideas of their own personal use and you would be amazed what neat little edges you can gain, tweaking a bit of this with a bit of that, off the radar little tips. Don't forget these people work with bait day in day out and are all experts. I particularly like emailing Gary Bayes, he is so down to Earth and friendly and helpful, a real mine of knowledge.
The trick is don't be tempted to go on at these people too much and be cheeky as they are very busy trying to help masses of people just like you

Get imaginative and be different with boilies is my advice, like I said cheap baits like particles and pellets are not the way forward in my opinion. If you are on a budget, continue buying the top gear but just use less of it.

Berzin sound like a right legend

You should take more notice of him

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if anyone is looking for good quality cheap baits then try Cherrycarp they are doing some excellent deals at the moment