Make one of the main lakes bays exclusive booking like the blue pool. Based on the same rates as blue pool they would have their 100k in just over a year 👍🏻
Or is the thought of a unknown angler catching the BC worse than it getting killed by otters 😂
Or is the thought of a unknown angler catching the BC worse than it getting killed by otters 😂
In reply to Post #146
The spitfire common doesn't have any history though does it?
The spitfire common doesn't have any history though does it?
In reply to Post #162
If the BC means that much to everyone why not move it to somewhere safe after its next capture and let it see out its retirement in peace rather than being chased around for the rest of its days....must be about 45 - 50 years old now so probably not got that long left...
If the BC means that much to everyone why not move it to somewhere safe after its next capture and let it see out its retirement in peace rather than being chased around for the rest of its days....must be about 45 - 50 years old now so probably not got that long left...
In reply to Post #162
You lot keep banging on about muh "history". Just an arbitrary notion.
Of course the Spitfire common has a history. It's not like it went from 0 to 50lb+ over the course of this conversation and has never been caught, is it?
You lot keep banging on about muh "history". Just an arbitrary notion.
Of course the Spitfire common has a history. It's not like it went from 0 to 50lb+ over the course of this conversation and has never been caught, is it?
In reply to Post #164
OK let's look at the history shall we.
The Wood Common.
Stocked into an un-fished, hand-fed 1 acre pond by RW and left 100% free from angling pressure until it reached nearly 50 lb. RW then caught it before opening the pond up to anglers 10 years ago.
The BC.
I don't even know when it was stocked or by whom but it swam with some of the finest genuine Leneys in the country, in a 90 acre pit that was pioneered by the likes of Kenny Hodder. It was caught back in the 1980's at mid twenties but it was in the 1990's that those in the know began to take notice. Even then, it wasn't until the late 90's/early 00's when it hit 40+ that it became big news. By the mid 00's it had grown to a massive 57 lb, the biggest proper English common carp the country had ever seen. All these years later the fish remains so with a biggest weight of 62 odd.
Now they are both absolutely class fish, and both very, very hard to catch by all accounts. But if we're talking about history (which I agree is subjective), for me, there is just no comparison at all.
OK let's look at the history shall we.
The Wood Common.
Stocked into an un-fished, hand-fed 1 acre pond by RW and left 100% free from angling pressure until it reached nearly 50 lb. RW then caught it before opening the pond up to anglers 10 years ago.
The BC.
I don't even know when it was stocked or by whom but it swam with some of the finest genuine Leneys in the country, in a 90 acre pit that was pioneered by the likes of Kenny Hodder. It was caught back in the 1980's at mid twenties but it was in the 1990's that those in the know began to take notice. Even then, it wasn't until the late 90's/early 00's when it hit 40+ that it became big news. By the mid 00's it had grown to a massive 57 lb, the biggest proper English common carp the country had ever seen. All these years later the fish remains so with a biggest weight of 62 odd.
Now they are both absolutely class fish, and both very, very hard to catch by all accounts. But if we're talking about history (which I agree is subjective), for me, there is just no comparison at all.
In reply to Post #165
That sums it up rather nicely Yonny!
That sums it up rather nicely Yonny!
In reply to Post #165
Burghfield stockings, besides Donald Leney, it may have been stocked by Leisure sport Angling, or opportunistic ‘drop in stockings' by various people perhaps, bit like Wraysbury. Who knows for sure.
A rarity these days, a 60 common that got so big by natural diet, in a big pit, Just adds to the mystery of it.
Burghfield stockings, besides Donald Leney, it may have been stocked by Leisure sport Angling, or opportunistic ‘drop in stockings' by various people perhaps, bit like Wraysbury. Who knows for sure.
A rarity these days, a 60 common that got so big by natural diet, in a big pit, Just adds to the mystery of it.
In reply to Post #151
Mouldy always wanted to backfill would have made him another few millions...cant remember the exact time but probably the 90's when he sold his company to RMC or ARC ? for 5 million with the understanding he was not allowed to operate any company in the area for 5 yrs ..soon as the 5yrs were up he started his buisness again and most of his old staff jumped ship and went back to work for him like he had never been away ...i was on hire to him for awhile and got to go to his house and aircraft hanger where he kept his steam engine collection which was pretty amazing but the truly amazing thing was the man had made millions and could barely read or write ....so for him to stick his hand in his pocket and spend money on something that will not make him money is never going to happen
Mouldy always wanted to backfill would have made him another few millions...cant remember the exact time but probably the 90's when he sold his company to RMC or ARC ? for 5 million with the understanding he was not allowed to operate any company in the area for 5 yrs ..soon as the 5yrs were up he started his buisness again and most of his old staff jumped ship and went back to work for him like he had never been away ...i was on hire to him for awhile and got to go to his house and aircraft hanger where he kept his steam engine collection which was pretty amazing but the truly amazing thing was the man had made millions and could barely read or write ....so for him to stick his hand in his pocket and spend money on something that will not make him money is never going to happen
In reply to Post #165
Sure, I'm aware of what these fish are about and your points regarding the two fish are sound.
In respect of history, one fish that I can think of which I fished for when it was 11lb before it took a road trip (if still alive) - I won't divulge it's whereabouts simply as there may well be anglers trying to catch it and blow it for the them) has been around the same time as the Burghfield fish (is a common too) and is possibly bigger, to me is more of an epic capture, not only due to its size, but also the implications of actually fishing for it. I could say similar of another fish (mirror) in a similar scenario which is just as mental trying to catch it.
You see, this is why these things are subjective; they mean different things for different people. I've never been fussed about the Burghfield fish as it means very little to me. I hardly raise an eyebrow whenever it gets caught...so what. On the other hand, just the two fish I mentioned, now catching either of those two,.like wow, that's some fishing that.
Sure, I'm aware of what these fish are about and your points regarding the two fish are sound.
In respect of history, one fish that I can think of which I fished for when it was 11lb before it took a road trip (if still alive) - I won't divulge it's whereabouts simply as there may well be anglers trying to catch it and blow it for the them) has been around the same time as the Burghfield fish (is a common too) and is possibly bigger, to me is more of an epic capture, not only due to its size, but also the implications of actually fishing for it. I could say similar of another fish (mirror) in a similar scenario which is just as mental trying to catch it.
You see, this is why these things are subjective; they mean different things for different people. I've never been fussed about the Burghfield fish as it means very little to me. I hardly raise an eyebrow whenever it gets caught...so what. On the other hand, just the two fish I mentioned, now catching either of those two,.like wow, that's some fishing that.
In reply to Post #169
I fished for when it was 11lb before it took a road trip (if still alive)
So a fish that may or may not exist is better than the BC?
Ok.
As you say, subjective
I fished for when it was 11lb before it took a road trip (if still alive)
So a fish that may or may not exist is better than the BC?
Ok.
As you say, subjective
In reply to Post #28
Post of the week winner. Trophy is in the post
Post of the week winner. Trophy is in the post
In reply to Post #1
" if the owners of the lake were that bothered why not get a loan or increase ticket prices to cover it?"
Or you've another option, if there's a 10 year waiting list as you say there's clearly the numbers to form a club, and/or affiliate to one. If the present set up can't look after the waters financially it's the sensible thing to do, must be a few clubs that way big enough.
" if the owners of the lake were that bothered why not get a loan or increase ticket prices to cover it?"
Or you've another option, if there's a 10 year waiting list as you say there's clearly the numbers to form a club, and/or affiliate to one. If the present set up can't look after the waters financially it's the sensible thing to do, must be a few clubs that way big enough.
In reply to Post #170
It's a reasonable thing to say considering I'm not fishing for it. From one week to the next I don't know if the big'un where I'm fishing has rolled up dead somewhere.
I'm sure there are others on this board and elsewhere that know of very large carp that are worthy of the crown you've placed on the Burghfield Common's noggin. It's like until the Black Mirror got publicised, people didn't have a clue it existed, you know?
It's a reasonable thing to say considering I'm not fishing for it. From one week to the next I don't know if the big'un where I'm fishing has rolled up dead somewhere.
I'm sure there are others on this board and elsewhere that know of very large carp that are worthy of the crown you've placed on the Burghfield Common's noggin. It's like until the Black Mirror got publicised, people didn't have a clue it existed, you know?
In reply to Post #173
I agree with you that there are under-the-radar kippers of similar merit, but if we refer to my post 141 which started this discussion I said it was the last of the well known history fish and hence one of a kind. I think that rings true?
Anyway, I'm not even sure where this discussion is going any more. This thread is about the BC lol.
I agree with you that there are under-the-radar kippers of similar merit, but if we refer to my post 141 which started this discussion I said it was the last of the well known history fish and hence one of a kind. I think that rings true?
Anyway, I'm not even sure where this discussion is going any more. This thread is about the BC lol.
In reply to Post #174
It's gone in a better direction than some blokes sluagging off some other blokes who are trying to raise money for an otter fence!
It's gone in a better direction than some blokes sluagging off some other blokes who are trying to raise money for an otter fence!