Hi guys,
I wanted to inform you that Cyprinus will release a quick erect bivvy just like the Trakker Tempest in 2019. They are working on a bivvy that doesn't step on the Tempest patent. This is all I know.
I wanted to inform you that Cyprinus will release a quick erect bivvy just like the Trakker Tempest in 2019. They are working on a bivvy that doesn't step on the Tempest patent. This is all I know.
In reply to Post #1
Mr Blonde will be pleased
Mr Blonde will be pleased
In reply to Post #2
Interesting
Interesting
In reply to Post #2
Bought two Tempest's.
Bought two Tempest's.
In reply to Post #1
good luck with that , their attempt at the fast n light is proper poor quality , had it 2 months fell apart , total wonk....
good luck with that , their attempt at the fast n light is proper poor quality , had it 2 months fell apart , total wonk....
In reply to Post #5
Strange, all the fan boys on here were saying how it was a fast and lite with a cypry badge and even came in an aqua box.
Strange, all the fan boys on here were saying how it was a fast and lite with a cypry badge and even came in an aqua box.
In reply to Post #5
No problem with my one. Still going strong.
No problem with my one. Still going strong.
In reply to Post #6
Hi. Fanboy here.
Mines been faultless, used it as a day shelter for two winters so far. Came in an aqua box. Only cost me about seventy quid.
There you go. The balance has been returned to the universe.
As a side note my £140 m3 compact copy has been faultless as well.
Hi. Fanboy here.
Mines been faultless, used it as a day shelter for two winters so far. Came in an aqua box. Only cost me about seventy quid.
There you go. The balance has been returned to the universe.
As a side note my £140 m3 compact copy has been faultless as well.
In reply to Post #8
Good news is you'll be able to ditch both when the tempest copy arrives.
Good news is you'll be able to ditch both when the tempest copy arrives.
My 55 system leaked terribly
In reply to Post #10
Hmmm, I really thought Cyprinus was the rebadged Aqua bivvy indeed and thus great quality. Now I think I will just buy a Tempest...
Hmmm, I really thought Cyprinus was the rebadged Aqua bivvy indeed and thus great quality. Now I think I will just buy a Tempest...
In reply to Post #10
I have a cyprinus 1 man base hq, very well put together with some good features, vents front and back in both bivvy and winter skin, velcro rod straps front and back, cheap as chips also.. 👍 From me..
I have a cyprinus 1 man base hq, very well put together with some good features, vents front and back in both bivvy and winter skin, velcro rod straps front and back, cheap as chips also.. 👍 From me..
In reply to Post #5
good luck with that , their attempt at the fast n light is proper poor quality , had it 2 months fell apart , total wonk....
That's Aqua quality for you......doesn't feel half as painful if you have paid Cyprinus prices though and is easy to send back for a new one.....
good luck with that , their attempt at the fast n light is proper poor quality , had it 2 months fell apart , total wonk....
That's Aqua quality for you......doesn't feel half as painful if you have paid Cyprinus prices though and is easy to send back for a new one.....
In reply to Post #13
ended up down the tempest route , best shelter iv ever own in 20 yrs on the bank ....
ended up down the tempest route , best shelter iv ever own in 20 yrs on the bank ....
In reply to Post #14
What would you guys rather buy: new Tempest Brolly V2 with infill panel or pristine second hand Tempest Bivvy V2?
What would you guys rather buy: new Tempest Brolly V2 with infill panel or pristine second hand Tempest Bivvy V2?
In reply to Post #15
Depends if weight or swim size was an issue.
Depends if weight or swim size was an issue.
In reply to Post #16
Good call. Size isn't an issue. Weight a bit more...
Good call. Size isn't an issue. Weight a bit more...
In reply to Post #15
v2 brolly and wrap is all you will ever need
v2 brolly and wrap is all you will ever need
In reply to Post #18
Yes, that's what I thought but a few stories about sitting on the bed hair and your head touching the roof 'scare' me.
I'm not tall, only 1.81m long.
Yes, that's what I thought but a few stories about sitting on the bed hair and your head touching the roof 'scare' me.
I'm not tall, only 1.81m long.
In reply to Post #19
the quality of the product is second to none , up in seconds , solid as a rock...
the quality of the product is second to none , up in seconds , solid as a rock...
In reply to Post #19
You will defo get bed hair if your head is rubbing the roof think of all that static you will run out your brolly looking like Don King
You will defo get bed hair if your head is rubbing the roof think of all that static you will run out your brolly looking like Don King
In reply to Post #21
Lol mate, I hate auto correct on my phone..
Lol mate, I hate auto correct on my phone..
Pricing will need to be sharper than it is on some other products, for example Cyprinus Trakker Tempest Brolly v2 skull cap is £75, can get the Trakker one for about a tenner more. Not that I'm saying £10 is nothing, but i'd buy the Tracker one for what the difference is.
In reply to Post #24
Obvious really, The £300 Aqua brolly/£150 Cyrprinus equivalent makes perfect sense which way to swing, but £10 or £20 here and there on more costly items doesn't wow me personally!
Obvious really, The £300 Aqua brolly/£150 Cyrprinus equivalent makes perfect sense which way to swing, but £10 or £20 here and there on more costly items doesn't wow me personally!
In reply to Post #23
Why when they are the same?
Why when they are the same?
In reply to Post #12
Me too, or at least I did until I sold it to my nephew....Still got the 2 man though and yes it's a superb bivvy.
Me too, or at least I did until I sold it to my nephew....Still got the 2 man though and yes it's a superb bivvy.
In reply to Post #26
Easy really, if you ever wanted to sell the stuff on and laid the Cyprinus/Trakker out side by side and the difference amounts to £10 or £20, assuming condition of the gear to be the same I guarantee the Trakker would sell 1st all day long and you'll more than likely get the extra you paid back. Now think the same but the Cyprinus gear is £50 less because you bought it considerably cheaper? Bit more to think about!
Look at it another way, now we all seem to know or believe that the Cyprinus Camo4 brolly is the exact same as the Aqua F&L, but there's £150 difference, why would you ever buy the Aqua for twice the price!?!!
That's the wow effect the Cyprinus pricing has to have for me to consider buying it, not that I doubt the quality is good enough and not because I intentionally buy to sell, but that seems to be the reality...
Easy really, if you ever wanted to sell the stuff on and laid the Cyprinus/Trakker out side by side and the difference amounts to £10 or £20, assuming condition of the gear to be the same I guarantee the Trakker would sell 1st all day long and you'll more than likely get the extra you paid back. Now think the same but the Cyprinus gear is £50 less because you bought it considerably cheaper? Bit more to think about!
Look at it another way, now we all seem to know or believe that the Cyprinus Camo4 brolly is the exact same as the Aqua F&L, but there's £150 difference, why would you ever buy the Aqua for twice the price!?!!
That's the wow effect the Cyprinus pricing has to have for me to consider buying it, not that I doubt the quality is good enough and not because I intentionally buy to sell, but that seems to be the reality...
In reply to Post #30
Is this truly Aqua or you mean Cyprinus?
Is this truly Aqua or you mean Cyprinus?
In reply to Post #32
Pfff, bummer. You must be really heavy handed!
Pfff, bummer. You must be really heavy handed!
In reply to Post #34
Hmmm, where has quality gone at Aqua?
I really like Cotswold Aquarius gear, but you're gonna need another mortgage for that stuff.
Hmmm, where has quality gone at Aqua?
I really like Cotswold Aquarius gear, but you're gonna need another mortgage for that stuff.
In reply to Post #30
Should have gone for the Cyprinus.
Should have gone for the Cyprinus.
In reply to Post #36
That's my thinking. If I buy cyprinus and it does fall apart after a couple of seasons then as it's so cheap I've had my money's worth. If I buy the same aqua product but for three times the price and it only lasts just as long I'm gonna be proper pissed off.
Seems you buy cheap, you buy twice. You buy expensive you still buy twice. Might as well buy cheap.
That's my thinking. If I buy cyprinus and it does fall apart after a couple of seasons then as it's so cheap I've had my money's worth. If I buy the same aqua product but for three times the price and it only lasts just as long I'm gonna be proper pissed off.
Seems you buy cheap, you buy twice. You buy expensive you still buy twice. Might as well buy cheap.
In reply to Post #37
Trouble is you will end up with a load of tatt that you are constantly replacing.
Trouble is you will end up with a load of tatt that you are constantly replacing.
In reply to Post #38
What when you buy aqua?
Seriously though. Take josh as an example, in the last few weeks he's posted about an aqua rucksack that didn't even make it out of his house without needing returning and now a shoddy quiver that's fallen apart on its first outing. So he's spending aqua money and still ending up with a load of tatt that keeps needing replacement.
What when you buy aqua?
Seriously though. Take josh as an example, in the last few weeks he's posted about an aqua rucksack that didn't even make it out of his house without needing returning and now a shoddy quiver that's fallen apart on its first outing. So he's spending aqua money and still ending up with a load of tatt that keeps needing replacement.
In reply to Post #39
Maybe the trick is being able too recognise quality and not tatt hiding behind a label.
Maybe the trick is being able too recognise quality and not tatt hiding behind a label.
In reply to Post #42
Mixture of experience and reviews from people you know and trust. Price means little nowadays although quality usually costs.
Mixture of experience and reviews from people you know and trust. Price means little nowadays although quality usually costs.
In reply to Post #44
I'm probably not the best person to ask as for carp fishing I use very little, Cotswold trident deluxe for rods,net and sling, esp medium carryall and cool bag does all I need from a day session to four days and nights.
I'm probably not the best person to ask as for carp fishing I use very little, Cotswold trident deluxe for rods,net and sling, esp medium carryall and cool bag does all I need from a day session to four days and nights.
On first inspection the Cotswold stuff looks expensive but it's worth every penny IMO. Having said that I have had Trakker stuff that is still going strong as well, luck of the draw with the mass produced stuff I'm afraid
In reply to Post #46
Going back to the original thread, I cant see how Cyprinus have got round the Trakker patent for the quick erect bivvy as per the Tempest.
If there was a way round it, Fox would be all over it and using it in there bivi designs.
Waiting with interest.
Going back to the original thread, I cant see how Cyprinus have got round the Trakker patent for the quick erect bivvy as per the Tempest.
If there was a way round it, Fox would be all over it and using it in there bivi designs.
Waiting with interest.
In reply to Post #47
Made in China, try taking a Chinese manufacturer to court for copyright infringement and you will end up bankrupt.
Made in China, try taking a Chinese manufacturer to court for copyright infringement and you will end up bankrupt.
In reply to Post #49
Cyprinus don't manufacture though I believe, they merely import the product and sell it on.
Aqua Products of old were designing and hand making their designs in the UK but when they couldn't keep up with demand tracker filled the void with mass produced product made under licence from aqua. When aqua first went too China they tried to kid us the product was still made in the UK, having laid off their UK workforce to now be having their product ripped off seems fair to me and I only wish someone would do the same with Dyson.
Cyprinus don't manufacture though I believe, they merely import the product and sell it on.
Aqua Products of old were designing and hand making their designs in the UK but when they couldn't keep up with demand tracker filled the void with mass produced product made under licence from aqua. When aqua first went too China they tried to kid us the product was still made in the UK, having laid off their UK workforce to now be having their product ripped off seems fair to me and I only wish someone would do the same with Dyson.
In reply to Post #49
They confirmed to me they are working on a quick erect bivvy. I will wait for them to release it and then decide to go with it or a Tempest.
They confirmed to me they are working on a quick erect bivvy. I will wait for them to release it and then decide to go with it or a Tempest.
In reply to Post #39
Took a new Aqua cool bag out today for its 1st outing..Zip came away from the lid in two places..FFS
Too much hassle sending it back,so as I can sew I'll be re-sewing it.I know it will last now..
Gonna let Aqua know I'm not happy tho..
Took a new Aqua cool bag out today for its 1st outing..Zip came away from the lid in two places..FFS
Too much hassle sending it back,so as I can sew I'll be re-sewing it.I know it will last now..
Gonna let Aqua know I'm not happy tho..
In reply to Post #51
Or the new ____________ coming in the spring
Or the new ____________ coming in the spring
In reply to Post #53
Oh didn't know that, nice! Thanks for the info!
Oh didn't know that, nice! Thanks for the info!
In reply to Post #54
Aqua 3 Rod Hold-all purchased 18-24 months ago no issues. Aqua food bag purchased same sort of time no issues, in fact I replaced all my luggage with Aqua 5-6 months ago no issues as of yet. I also have a Cyprinus Base bivvy £109 brand new off EBay which has been bomb proof. Either I've been lucky or some people have ended up with the trainee's Friday afternoon efforts.
Aqua 3 Rod Hold-all purchased 18-24 months ago no issues. Aqua food bag purchased same sort of time no issues, in fact I replaced all my luggage with Aqua 5-6 months ago no issues as of yet. I also have a Cyprinus Base bivvy £109 brand new off EBay which has been bomb proof. Either I've been lucky or some people have ended up with the trainee's Friday afternoon efforts.
In reply to Post #53
I think that was meant to be kept under your hat. They gonna love you. Lol
I think that was meant to be kept under your hat. They gonna love you. Lol
In reply to Post #56
Is that better 😁😁
Is that better 😁😁
In reply to Post #57
Lol
Lol
In reply to Post #57
Lol. Genius.
I've heard the test one is superb by the way.
Lol. Genius.
I've heard the test one is superb by the way.
In reply to Post #59
Wouldn't know. I'm Nash through and through
Wouldn't know. I'm Nash through and through
In reply to Post #50
Agree 100%
Firms that offshore their manufacturing to the lowest bidder in a low wage country with no intellectual property rights and then complain about copying get what they deserve.
Agree 100%
Firms that offshore their manufacturing to the lowest bidder in a low wage country with no intellectual property rights and then complain about copying get what they deserve.
In reply to Post #61
For anyone who is interested in these bivvies; just chatted to them via Facebook Messenger. This bivvy will be released around September and they say it will be better than the Trakker Tempests.
For anyone who is interested in these bivvies; just chatted to them via Facebook Messenger. This bivvy will be released around September and they say it will be better than the Trakker Tempests.
In reply to Post #47
Like the spomb !! Bomb proof patent 😂
Like the spomb !! Bomb proof patent 😂
In reply to Post #62
They are hardly going to say its inferior !!
I have 2 Cyprinus Bivvys and they are good ... I also have a tempest V2 and thats very very good .... For what Cypinrus gear costs its great value but not better currently
They are hardly going to say its inferior !!
I have 2 Cyprinus Bivvys and they are good ... I also have a tempest V2 and thats very very good .... For what Cypinrus gear costs its great value but not better currently
In reply to Post #1
I see this company is doing good for itself.. wish I can get my hands on some of their gear to see for my self on this side of the world..
I see this company is doing good for itself.. wish I can get my hands on some of their gear to see for my self on this side of the world..
In reply to Post #2
Its coming.
Its coming.
I think I will hold off buying the v2 advanced brolly for the time being and see what cyprinus come up with.
Hopefully they will be showing some pics soon.
Hopefully they will be showing some pics soon.
In reply to Post #67
I heard about someone that when sat on their bedchair in the Advanced Brolly all they could see was the rolled up doorway !!
IMHO they are way too low
I heard about someone that when sat on their bedchair in the Advanced Brolly all they could see was the rolled up doorway !!
IMHO they are way too low
In reply to Post #68
Not to bothered about the height to be honest as mostly use my chair when sitting.
Not to bothered about the height to be honest as mostly use my chair when sitting.
I wish they would make a few more of them XLR8 shelters which was basically a venture carp razorback, them razorback take some beating, best bivvy system I ever owned
In reply to Post #66
Hi,
Are there some more facts available, especially with regards to the timeline ?
Joe
Hi,
Are there some more facts available, especially with regards to the timeline ?
Joe
In reply to Post #71
Missed my post?
Missed my post?
In reply to Post #71
Post 62 says September and going be better than trakker tempests but they are not going say they are not as good are they
Post 62 says September and going be better than trakker tempests but they are not going say they are not as good are they
In reply to Post #73
I'm a bit partial to a cyprinus shelter. But I'm racking my brain to think what needs improvement that much on a tempest.
I'm a bit partial to a cyprinus shelter. But I'm racking my brain to think what needs improvement that much on a tempest.
In reply to Post #19
Yes, that's what I thought but a few stories about sitting on the bed hair and your head touching the roof 'scare' me.
I'm not tall, only 1.81m long.
I am 1.83m tall & my head does not touch the roof on my Tempest Brolly V2 (nor did it on the V1 I had before) when sat on either a Fox Flatliter Mk2, Wychwood Tactical or Solar C-Spec.
Yes, that's what I thought but a few stories about sitting on the bed hair and your head touching the roof 'scare' me.
I'm not tall, only 1.81m long.
I am 1.83m tall & my head does not touch the roof on my Tempest Brolly V2 (nor did it on the V1 I had before) when sat on either a Fox Flatliter Mk2, Wychwood Tactical or Solar C-Spec.
In reply to Post #74
Well, I would like to see the Cyprinus one too, because I have read so much trouble with the Tempests (block, stitching, leaking, seam tapes coming off, etc).
Well, I would like to see the Cyprinus one too, because I have read so much trouble with the Tempests (block, stitching, leaking, seam tapes coming off, etc).
In reply to Post #68
I heard about someone that when sat on their bedchair in the Advanced Brolly all they could see was the rolled up doorway !!
IMHO they are way too low
Rubbish. I have used all 3 versions of the Tempest Brolly & never sat on a bedchair looking at a rolled up door. You do get that problem with the non-XL Nash Hide though.
I am 6ft tall & never heard so much guff spoken about these shelters from non-owners because they have "heard" something, but never actually experienced them.
I heard about someone that when sat on their bedchair in the Advanced Brolly all they could see was the rolled up doorway !!
IMHO they are way too low
Rubbish. I have used all 3 versions of the Tempest Brolly & never sat on a bedchair looking at a rolled up door. You do get that problem with the non-XL Nash Hide though.
I am 6ft tall & never heard so much guff spoken about these shelters from non-owners because they have "heard" something, but never actually experienced them.
In reply to Post #73
Hi,
tried to get some first hand information from "Tackle Discounts" but they replied that they cannot say anything at this point....
Hi,
tried to get some first hand information from "Tackle Discounts" but they replied that they cannot say anything at this point....
In reply to Post #78
Maybe it's depends, who you talk to? I have contacted them via Facebook Messenger.
Maybe it's depends, who you talk to? I have contacted them via Facebook Messenger.
In reply to Post #79
Contact them on FB today and they replied within a few minutes, saying should be September, but I guess that's down to the container arriving on time.
Contact them on FB today and they replied within a few minutes, saying should be September, but I guess that's down to the container arriving on time.
In reply to Post #80
Well, as I am from the continent, my personal deadline is the 31.10.
Who knows what comes after...
Well, as I am from the continent, my personal deadline is the 31.10.
Who knows what comes after...
In reply to Post #81
I am from the Netherlands. Why is your deadline 31 October?
I am from the Netherlands. Why is your deadline 31 October?
In reply to Post #77
I am 6ft tall & never heard so much guff spoken about these shelters from non-owners because they have "heard" something, but never actually experienced them.
WELL try reading post 12 sunshine LINK
Opinions are like arsholes we all have one
I am 6ft tall & never heard so much guff spoken about these shelters from non-owners because they have "heard" something, but never actually experienced them.
WELL try reading post 12 sunshine LINK
Opinions are like arsholes we all have one
In reply to Post #82
The world will end, according to some.
The world will end, according to some.
In reply to Post #85
My Tempest is fine but then we are not talking about them ?
we are talking about a specific model dont shoot the messenger
My Tempest is fine but then we are not talking about them ?
we are talking about a specific model dont shoot the messenger
In reply to Post #86
Im 6ft and have the V1 brolly and dont look at a rolled up door..........
Im 6ft and have the V1 brolly and dont look at a rolled up door..........
Well I spoke with cyprinus today regarding this new quick erect bivvy to get a bit of info on and they had no idea what i was going on about lol ?.
In reply to Post #89
That's strange as told others it's due out soon
That's strange as told others it's due out soon
In reply to Post #90
Yes that is a bit strange then ?.
Was hoping to have a look at one soon aswell before I buy a v2 advanced brolly.
Yes that is a bit strange then ?.
Was hoping to have a look at one soon aswell before I buy a v2 advanced brolly.
Or maybe they might be just keeping schtum about it ?.
In reply to Post #92
Not according to post80 but its only like the tacklebox there was talk of a new bivvy from them on here but the shop denied all knowledge of a new bivvy when my mate asked
Not according to post80 but its only like the tacklebox there was talk of a new bivvy from them on here but the shop denied all knowledge of a new bivvy when my mate asked
In reply to Post #93
Personally I don't see the reasoning behind it, there saying one thing to someone then something else to another.
Personally I don't see the reasoning behind it, there saying one thing to someone then something else to another.
In reply to Post #94
Maybe someone has stopped them releasing it the tacklebox sort of answered why they denied a new bivvy coming out because they had alot of stock of the one they sell now
Maybe someone has stopped them releasing it the tacklebox sort of answered why they denied a new bivvy coming out because they had alot of stock of the one they sell now
In reply to Post #95
But if they want to sell out existing stock first, raising prices would not be the best idea.
Just noticed that they increased the prices for the M4 and Base HQ my >6% :-(
But if they want to sell out existing stock first, raising prices would not be the best idea.
Just noticed that they increased the prices for the M4 and Base HQ my >6% :-(
In reply to Post #97
I messaged Tackle Discounts on FB the other week and they said hopefully late September!
I messaged Tackle Discounts on FB the other week and they said hopefully late September!
In reply to Post #98
Just asked and now they say november. So, I think they should be here in 2021 I think.
Just asked and now they say november. So, I think they should be here in 2021 I think.
From their latest post on Facebook it looks like it's on the way...
In reply to Post #100
They told me just before Christmas ,will be called the Typhon .
They told me just before Christmas ,will be called the Typhon .
In reply to Post #101
Typhoon will be the name.......
Typhoon will be the name.......
In reply to Post #100
I love the fact they dont even try to pretend it's not a rebranded tempest, fair play I say
I love the fact they dont even try to pretend it's not a rebranded tempest, fair play I say
In reply to Post #103
I will be selling my tempest composite and buying a cyprinus full system for probably the same money
I was going to send it off to army Andy to put vents in the back but what's the point when I can use that 80quid plus sald of tempest composite and buy a new full system
I will be selling my tempest composite and buying a cyprinus full system for probably the same money
I was going to send it off to army Andy to put vents in the back but what's the point when I can use that 80quid plus sald of tempest composite and buy a new full system
Have they got a pic up on Facebook?
In reply to Post #105
No, just the announcement.
No, just the announcement.
In reply to Post #106
Thats a shame
Thats a shame
In reply to Post #107
Look up "tracker tempest" thank me later
Look up "tracker tempest" thank me later
In reply to Post #108
Yes I know but I believe it's got a different block design so I hear.
Yes I know but I believe it's got a different block design so I hear.
Will be interesting to see what minor changes this has and whether it is tempest brolly sized or larger... Then again all I seem to be doing is collecting bivvies... The M4 is superb though and I'm sure the typhoon will be on the money!
In reply to Post #108
Look up the spelling or a photo?!
Look up the spelling or a photo?!
In reply to Post #111
Would you like a 'well done' for that sarcastic comment?
Would you like a 'well done' for that sarcastic comment?
In reply to Post #112
Take no notice of the grammar police.
Take no notice of the grammar police.
In reply to Post #111
Who gives a to55 if he smelt it rong mr prefect!!
Who gives a to55 if he smelt it rong mr prefect!!
In reply to Post #114
Yeah, leeve vim alown.
Yeah, leeve vim alown.
I find I so sad when people feel the need to correct other people's spelling it's a forum not a bloody English exam get a grip... I see it on FB all the time and it's a certain kinda **** that does it
I've just had an email from cyprinus telling me they have taken a design from aqua, improved it, and slashed the price.
Maybe they should take a leaf out of Kordas book and call themselves Cyprinus Developments from now on.
Maybe they should take a leaf out of Kordas book and call themselves Cyprinus Developments from now on.
In reply to Post #117
Then that must be a copy of the Pioneer, right? Oehhhhh, that would be nice in DPM.
Then that must be a copy of the Pioneer, right? Oehhhhh, that would be nice in DPM.
In reply to Post #117
That's the bunker bivvy which is a better version of the atom xl.....
That's the bunker bivvy which is a better version of the atom xl.....
In reply to Post #119
That's the bunker bivvy which is a better version of the atom xl.....
I am a bit confused over these copies .... The Bunker weighs 8.5kg without Groundsheet (10kg+ with groundsheet) ... that is very heavy for such a small bivvy. The Aqua Atom + weighs 6.3kg (8.2kg with groundsheet ... So the Cyprinus version which I agree looks very similar to the Atom+ but weighs approx 35% more .... Where is the difference coming from
That's the bunker bivvy which is a better version of the atom xl.....
I am a bit confused over these copies .... The Bunker weighs 8.5kg without Groundsheet (10kg+ with groundsheet) ... that is very heavy for such a small bivvy. The Aqua Atom + weighs 6.3kg (8.2kg with groundsheet ... So the Cyprinus version which I agree looks very similar to the Atom+ but weighs approx 35% more .... Where is the difference coming from
In reply to Post #118
God I hope not.
I'm hoping it's going to look more like the tempest than the pioneer, as i think the pioneer looks hideous but that's just my opinion
God I hope not.
I'm hoping it's going to look more like the tempest than the pioneer, as i think the pioneer looks hideous but that's just my opinion
In reply to Post #118
Aqua have brought out a DPM Pioneer
Aqua have brought out a DPM Pioneer
In reply to Post #116
Wouldn't mind but it was spell checker that changed it anyway
Wouldn't mind but it was spell checker that changed it anyway
In reply to Post #120
Where is the difference coming from
Could be the material as its 20000HH.........
Where is the difference coming from
Could be the material as its 20000HH.........
In reply to Post #124
I just hope they make it a decent height.. all these ridiculously low bivvies are pointless.. length and width yes makes sense but why knock 10cm off the height which makes them only good for hobbits?
I just hope they make it a decent height.. all these ridiculously low bivvies are pointless.. length and width yes makes sense but why knock 10cm off the height which makes them only good for hobbits?
In reply to Post #125
Agreed. Height is hardly taking up more
Footprint. But cutting it does mean less material
In poles and fabric but you can still boast that
It takes all your kit.
Agreed. Height is hardly taking up more
Footprint. But cutting it does mean less material
In poles and fabric but you can still boast that
It takes all your kit.
In reply to Post #126
I need a new shelter for next year so hope this new release will fit the bill.
I need a new shelter for next year so hope this new release will fit the bill.
Apparently a week or two till we see some pics of the new bivvy according to cyprinus today when i messaged them .
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In reply to Post #128
Anymore update on this?
I'm about to sell my composite v2 to fund it or get the 2man compact..
I'm interested to know which version of the tempest and which material and the cost of it
Anymore update on this?
I'm about to sell my composite v2 to fund it or get the 2man compact..
I'm interested to know which version of the tempest and which material and the cost of it
In reply to Post #129
Yes me to as I'm on the verge of getting a new bivvy so really want to see what this one is all about.
Hopefully we will see it soon as if not I'm going to have to purchase a tempest
Yes me to as I'm on the verge of getting a new bivvy so really want to see what this one is all about.
Hopefully we will see it soon as if not I'm going to have to purchase a tempest
If you search the cyprinus site for typhoon a couple of tempest brolly items come up
In reply to Post #131
Yes there just add ons for the tempest, those items have been on there a while.
Yes there just add ons for the tempest, those items have been on there a while.
In reply to Post #132
Yeah but my point is why are they tagged typhoon
Yeah but my point is why are they tagged typhoon
Apparently 7 to 10 days till we see some pics and a video
Apparently 7 to 10 days till we see some pics and a video
In reply to Post #135
Info I have gleamed so far from faceache... Dpm and green on the way, bivvy sized not brolly sized, rear vents and ready to ship week before xmas
Info I have gleamed so far from faceache... Dpm and green on the way, bivvy sized not brolly sized, rear vents and ready to ship week before xmas
In reply to Post #136
Material?any idea if similar block system to tempest
Material?any idea if similar block system to tempest
In reply to Post #137
Apparently better material than trakkers aquatex.
Apparently better material than trakkers aquatex.
In reply to Post #138
Might be aqua's version of aquatex
Might be aqua's version of aquatex
In reply to Post #139
Yes I expect so 20,000HH instead of 15,000HH
It also has an internal condensation stopper which the tempest doesnt have so must be slightly different
Yes I expect so 20,000HH instead of 15,000HH
It also has an internal condensation stopper which the tempest doesnt have so must be slightly different
In reply to Post #140
Sounds very interesting,I wonder what the price is going to be
Sounds very interesting,I wonder what the price is going to be
In reply to Post #141
£450 I believe, also I hope its not going to be to big and heavy , if so I may have to reconsider.
£450 I believe, also I hope its not going to be to big and heavy , if so I may have to reconsider.
In reply to Post #142
They can't win really can they.Too small will put people off,too big and heavy will put others off
They can't win really can they.Too small will put people off,too big and heavy will put others off
In reply to Post #143
Lol yes just hoping it's gonna be lightweight that's all as I really struggle now pushing my Barrow about.
Proper does me in.
Lol yes just hoping it's gonna be lightweight that's all as I really struggle now pushing my Barrow about.
Proper does me in.
In reply to Post #140
It also has an internal condensation stopper which the tempest doesnt have so must be slightly different
I believe it also has vents? ..... Sounds more like Nash Hide XL in Aquatexx
It also has an internal condensation stopper which the tempest doesnt have so must be slightly different
I believe it also has vents? ..... Sounds more like Nash Hide XL in Aquatexx
In reply to Post #145
Zip in ground sheet apparently.
I hope it has a peak..
Zip in ground sheet apparently.
I hope it has a peak..
They have really built this up to be good, hope it's not a massive let down.What are their customer service like if have any issues
In reply to Post #142
Wow 450 pounds. That sounds like a lot of dough.
Wow 450 pounds. That sounds like a lot of dough.
In reply to Post #148
If comparing it to the tempest or pioneer then it's not that bad
If comparing it to the tempest or pioneer then it's not that bad
In reply to Post #149
You're right. But I hoped it would be around the 300 mark.
You're right. But I hoped it would be around the 300 mark.
In reply to Post #150
If it comes with everything included, built in peak and no need for a wrap I think £400 would see them sell alot
If it comes with everything included, built in peak and no need for a wrap I think £400 would see them sell alot
In reply to Post #151
Let's round it off at 399 then!
Let's round it off at 399 then!
At 450 it's just another cheap chinese shelter at a big price imo. I was hoping for a cheapo TB copy.
In reply to Post #148
Yes that's what I was told by cyprinus themselves.
Yes that's what I was told by cyprinus themselves.
In reply to Post #154
I think at 450 they are going a bit too high on the price
I think at 450 they are going a bit too high on the price
In reply to Post #155
Yeah seems a bit much doesn't it, their M4 with wrap and all you need is only £320 ish and that's aquatexx 20000hh with rear vents too
Yeah seems a bit much doesn't it, their M4 with wrap and all you need is only £320 ish and that's aquatexx 20000hh with rear vents too
It's £450 because the demand is building for Cyprinus bivvies and this Typhoon.......
In reply to Post #157
Then cyprinus will lose market share soon....
Then cyprinus will lose market share soon....
In reply to Post #158
never dealt with them myself but have repaired a few where people had not luck getting bivvies sorted by cyprinus. its all fine and dandy doing a cheap bivvy but you need to offer an after service should it have a problem
never dealt with them myself but have repaired a few where people had not luck getting bivvies sorted by cyprinus. its all fine and dandy doing a cheap bivvy but you need to offer an after service should it have a problem
In reply to Post #159
That's not good,it seems trakker can be the same though.Some people get excellent service and foc items and some get charged and fobbed off.It seems like it depends who you talk to there
That's not good,it seems trakker can be the same though.Some people get excellent service and foc items and some get charged and fobbed off.It seems like it depends who you talk to there
In reply to Post #160
Also depends how you approach them.
Also depends how you approach them.
In reply to Post #159
I expect their business model is such that they do not need to offer an after service if someone knackers one of their bivvies - they work on the basis they are cheap enough that you just buy another one.
I expect their business model is such that they do not need to offer an after service if someone knackers one of their bivvies - they work on the basis they are cheap enough that you just buy another one.
In reply to Post #162
At 450 pounds, I won't buy another one!
At 450 pounds, I won't buy another one!
In reply to Post #163
With the volume they shift, I can't imagine they would lose much sleep if you didn't buy a replacement.
The £450 people are quoting could be their RRP. If you look at their website, all their products are discounted so whilst the £450 could be their recommended price, they may well sell for substantially less than that.
With the volume they shift, I can't imagine they would lose much sleep if you didn't buy a replacement.
The £450 people are quoting could be their RRP. If you look at their website, all their products are discounted so whilst the £450 could be their recommended price, they may well sell for substantially less than that.
In reply to Post #164
True, but there are regulations for selling gear and after service.
True, but there are regulations for selling gear and after service.
In reply to Post #164
I was told £400 to start.. I imagine it will reduce in 6 months
I was told £400 to start.. I imagine it will reduce in 6 months
they are getting mixed reviews on Facebook with regards after sales service. I wont lie, it made me think twice when i was looking at the M4 .... of course, having said the big guys are regularly slaughtered for customer service also,
Cyprinus arent stupid, they have seen the interest for the Typhoon and will price according to potential demand .... My guess is they will start discounting after the initial clamour has died down
Cyprinus arent stupid, they have seen the interest for the Typhoon and will price according to potential demand .... My guess is they will start discounting after the initial clamour has died down
Cant wait to see this latest bivvy...
Might even be tempted myself...love my DPM4...
Only bivvy ive had for a long time where you get no condensation at all...
Might even be tempted myself...love my DPM4...
Only bivvy ive had for a long time where you get no condensation at all...
I have nothing but praise for there customer service. Wanted to return a bivvy last year because it was not what i wanted and they refunded me £100 to keep it which was fine as i sold it for the remaining balance i was owed.
Bought the 1 man M4 and returned via drop and swap for the 2 man within 2 days of asking.......
Bought the 1 man M4 and returned via drop and swap for the 2 man within 2 days of asking.......
Any news?
They will be making quite a bit of money when customers call the customer service line which is a premium number
Expect to pay upto 50p a minute.
What a rip off.
Expect to pay upto 50p a minute.
What a rip off.
In reply to Post #171
For those not on Facebook...
In reply to Post #173
Sewn in ground sheet? that's gonna be a proper ball ache.
Sewn in ground sheet? that's gonna be a proper ball ache.
In reply to Post #174
I was told zip in ground sheet, think that's a typo
I was told zip in ground sheet, think that's a typo
Bivvies with sewn in groundsheets are best used with a footprint. Which is basically a separate groundsheet under the zip in one. I have this on my Fox Euro continental dome. It saves having to clean the groundsheet attached to the bivvy.
In reply to Post #174
Hope it hasn't as I never use them...
Hope it hasn't as I never use them...
In reply to Post #177
You could always cut it out lol
You could always cut it out lol
In reply to Post #178
There just pointless on uneven ground,and most places I fish are just that...
There just pointless on uneven ground,and most places I fish are just that...
Just goes to show you can't please everyone
Lol
Lol
In reply to Post #173
I heard the tempest 100 was very low ?
so if they have made it the same height ? then they will have missed out on a lot of sales IMHO
I heard the tempest 100 was very low ?
so if they have made it the same height ? then they will have missed out on a lot of sales IMHO
Cyprinus have posted again on Facebook saying that images and videos are due for release by the end of next week...
Mad that there are people wanting to pre order without even seeing it
Even madder that Cyprinus are coming across as though even they don't know what the finished article will be like
Also Cyprinus mentioned a price all in of circa £400, compared to Trakkers £699.99 for just the main bivvy.
Mad that there are people wanting to pre order without even seeing it
Even madder that Cyprinus are coming across as though even they don't know what the finished article will be like
Also Cyprinus mentioned a price all in of circa £400, compared to Trakkers £699.99 for just the main bivvy.
In reply to Post #182
Thank god for the mad caps that jump in
Without looking. Who else is going to test it?
Thank god for the mad caps that jump in
Without looking. Who else is going to test it?
In reply to Post #183
A camo tempest sounds good to me not keen on a sewn in groundsheet though or vapor shield i would rather use an overwrap.
A camo tempest sounds good to me not keen on a sewn in groundsheet though or vapor shield i would rather use an overwrap.
They've dragged this launch out longer than Brexit.
In reply to Post #185
In reply to Post #185
LOL, I thought the same
LOL, I thought the same
My guess is the boat with the shipping containers on has been delayed.
So is the Tempest advanced 100 considered to be an improvement over the Tempest v2 bivvy then?
In reply to Post #189
Pics and video end of this week now...
Pics and video end of this week now...
Proper longing this out ain't they
In reply to Post #191
They can't post up pictures until they open the container and see what China have sent them. I bet they are as curious what it's gonna be like as we are
They can't post up pictures until they open the container and see what China have sent them. I bet they are as curious what it's gonna be like as we are
In reply to Post #192
Surely that would of had samples tho before the shipment arrived?
Surely that would of had samples tho before the shipment arrived?
In reply to Post #192
In reply to Post #194
From what they have described surely it is a trakker tempest advanced 100 rebranded with everything included for 400 quid.. just added up the trakker equivalent of near 900!
From what they have described surely it is a trakker tempest advanced 100 rebranded with everything included for 400 quid.. just added up the trakker equivalent of near 900!
In reply to Post #195
Be even better if it's the higher grade material too
Be even better if it's the higher grade material too
In reply to Post #196
Yup and in camo
Yup and in camo
In reply to Post #195
Which is about what it's worth if it proves to be a quality product, we only think it's a bargain as the other manufacturers have been taking the mick for years.
Which is about what it's worth if it proves to be a quality product, we only think it's a bargain as the other manufacturers have been taking the mick for years.
In reply to Post #197
No quite sure on this camo bivvy trend
No quite sure on this camo bivvy trend
In reply to Post #199
Me neither, but it does make sense that the biggest object associated with angling is the thing we try to camouflage.
Me neither, but it does make sense that the biggest object associated with angling is the thing we try to camouflage.
In reply to Post #200
My lunch?
My lunch?
In reply to Post #201
Lol
Lol
In reply to Post #190
I heard that the delay is that Trakker and Aqua haven't posted pictures of their new designs yet
I heard that the delay is that Trakker and Aqua haven't posted pictures of their new designs yet
In reply to Post #203
In reply to Post #204
Hurry up how much longer
Hurry up how much longer
In reply to Post #205
I know! The money from my old old bivvy sale is dwindling as its sat in the cupboard, wont be anything left in a minute
I know! The money from my old old bivvy sale is dwindling as its sat in the cupboard, wont be anything left in a minute
In reply to Post #205
Tell me about it, they said pics and video was going up this weekend
Tell me about it, they said pics and video was going up this weekend
In reply to Post #207
Got ta be a sales plot
Got ta be a sales plot
In reply to Post #208
I've just seen on sky news that the Conservative party have changed their election slogan to
“get typhoon done”
Apparently brexit wasn't enough of a challenge
I would also like to point out that when cyprinus said released in time for Christmas, they didn't say which year.
I've just seen on sky news that the Conservative party have changed their election slogan to
“get typhoon done”
Apparently brexit wasn't enough of a challenge
I would also like to point out that when cyprinus said released in time for Christmas, they didn't say which year.
In reply to Post #209
Oooo first pics on fb page don't show a lot mind
In reply to Post #211
In reply to Post #212
I'm in
I'm in
In reply to Post #212
Looks good...
Looks good...
Looks like 3 front poles extend
In reply to Post #215
I like the look of it so far.
I like the look of it so far.
In reply to Post #216
I will wait see a bit more and let people field test it first
I will wait see a bit more and let people field test it first
In reply to Post #217
And the price drop...
And the price drop...
In reply to Post #217
Stop being a tight northerner and buy one. Then you can test it for us.
Stop being a tight northerner and buy one. Then you can test it for us.
In reply to Post #219
In reply to Post #219
Just because you use a thimble as a shelter short stack.You buy one with all your commission from JAG
Just because you use a thimble as a shelter short stack.You buy one with all your commission from JAG
Does anyone know the dimensions yet?
In reply to Post #221
I don't earn commission from jag. It's a sex thing big boy.
I don't earn commission from jag. It's a sex thing big boy.
In reply to Post #222
I don't think Cyprinus know yet
I don't think Cyprinus know yet
In reply to Post #224
They are just wanting for their Chinese translator to read the instructions.
They are just wanting for their Chinese translator to read the instructions.
In reply to Post #225
A video will be online tonight, they just said.
A video will be online tonight, they just said.
In reply to Post #223
.This new cyprinus shelter looks interesting,no locking collar on the bar like the tempest,so might be even easier to put up
.This new cyprinus shelter looks interesting,no locking collar on the bar like the tempest,so might be even easier to put up
In reply to Post #226
Can someone link to it on here please. Because I'm not 12 years old I don't have faceache.
Can someone link to it on here please. Because I'm not 12 years old I don't have faceache.
In reply to Post #226
Oh great the anticipation is ruined now
Oh great the anticipation is ruined now
Video up on Facebook now
In reply to Post #226
Just seen video on Facebook - looks good !!!
Can't do links sorry
Just seen video on Facebook - looks good !!!
Can't do links sorry
that's a complete system at a bang on price in my opinion
It pisses me of that they do a teaser video rather than a full product explanation and give the dimensions etc . I'm in the market for a new bivvy. Don't have the patience for all this bull@@it.
Looks tidy, my concerns are the way the rear vents are held out, I could see me adding little guy ropes to those to tension them better, and the front being held in shape by cam lock tension poles... I love the idea of cam lock, but everything I've had that uses them eventually ends up slipping. That happens on this thing and the whole shape and strength of it is potentially fooked!
Just my 2 penneth!
Just my 2 penneth!
Looks a ball ache with those joins in the poles and 3 push on poles at the block and tensioning from the front. I bet it's featherweight with 20000hh material too!
Looks nice though
Looks nice though
In reply to Post #235
I reckon you're right about the cam locks
Plus I'm not too sure about the front bars pushing onto small push ons,
Like you say, one issue with them, the bivvy is knackered
Think I'll stick with my original trakker compersite,
Had it a few years now, and been one off the best bivvies I've had,
I reckon you're right about the cam locks
Plus I'm not too sure about the front bars pushing onto small push ons,
Like you say, one issue with them, the bivvy is knackered
Think I'll stick with my original trakker compersite,
Had it a few years now, and been one off the best bivvies I've had,
Handsome looking shelter .... Im not a fan of camo, nor of the heavyweight material so I wouldnt buy one new. i'll wait for the novelty to wear off, price reduces, and second hand price plummets and I might try one
In reply to Post #237
I remember buying the venture razorlite brolly, the second generation one, very angular shaped. Came with cam locks. This thing needed tension to give it it's shape and strength, the poles that came with it were slipping back in under pressure after a couple of uses. Had to buy full set of cygnet dual thumb screw sticks. Kinda took away from the speedy set up and ultimately lost love with it. This cyprinus tempest doesn't even have the option to replace cam lock with screws, so yeah, if that part stops working...
I'll let others be guinea pigs on this one I think, although no doubting it looks smart
I remember buying the venture razorlite brolly, the second generation one, very angular shaped. Came with cam locks. This thing needed tension to give it it's shape and strength, the poles that came with it were slipping back in under pressure after a couple of uses. Had to buy full set of cygnet dual thumb screw sticks. Kinda took away from the speedy set up and ultimately lost love with it. This cyprinus tempest doesn't even have the option to replace cam lock with screws, so yeah, if that part stops working...
I'll let others be guinea pigs on this one I think, although no doubting it looks smart
I wonder why they went with the cam locks on the front? 100% they will start to slip after a while, but it looks like their are three of them so maybe that will take a bit of the strain.
In reply to Post #240
Maybe a pointless tweak so its not 100% copy
Maybe a pointless tweak so its not 100% copy
In reply to Post #240
Yes thats what I'm not to keen on, I might just wait a bit longer now for more pics and user reviews after a few months or just get the v2 advanced brolly like I originally was.
Yes thats what I'm not to keen on, I might just wait a bit longer now for more pics and user reviews after a few months or just get the v2 advanced brolly like I originally was.
I've never owned a shelter with a zip in groundsheet. Are they a massive hassle to line up the zips when you are kneeling on the ground sheet?
Also I've never owned a tempest, so not sure on this, does the top extend out further than a tempest or would this still need a skull cap to stop rain coming in? Making it a triple layered shelter?
Also I've never owned a tempest, so not sure on this, does the top extend out further than a tempest or would this still need a skull cap to stop rain coming in? Making it a triple layered shelter?
In reply to Post #243
You have to zip the groundsheet on first if you want to zip it on to get the right shape, if not just put it in as normal. Skull cap will not require you to use the vapour shield......so double skin only.
Green one will look better when it arrives and they I believe will be bringing out a stripped out brolly version.......
You have to zip the groundsheet on first if you want to zip it on to get the right shape, if not just put it in as normal. Skull cap will not require you to use the vapour shield......so double skin only.
Green one will look better when it arrives and they I believe will be bringing out a stripped out brolly version.......
In reply to Post #244
I really am disappointed with the poles that slide in the block. That will be one of the first things to go, in my opinion.
I really am disappointed with the poles that slide in the block. That will be one of the first things to go, in my opinion.
Nice looking tent lol.
I'll be interested to see a stripped out brolly version.
I'll be interested to see a stripped out brolly version.
In reply to Post #243
It looks like they extend out the same to me, I see they have the blocks for a skull cap so they must intend taking a skull cap out at some point.
It looks like they extend out the same to me, I see they have the blocks for a skull cap so they must intend taking a skull cap out at some point.
In reply to Post #245
It looks like to me if those extendable poles were on a tempest they would snap under pressure. When you pull the center pole down on a tempest it pulls the whole bivvy into shape but it take some pressure to get it locked down.
It looks like to me if those extendable poles were on a tempest they would snap under pressure. When you pull the center pole down on a tempest it pulls the whole bivvy into shape but it take some pressure to get it locked down.
In reply to Post #247
Skull cap will be available in the future......
Skull cap will be available in the future......
Here's ya specs, available to pre order now on Cyprinus website for anyone wishing to swallow the brave pill...
In reply to Post #250
Revolutionary design
Revolutionary design
In reply to Post #251
I had similar reaction to 'patented'
I had similar reaction to 'patented'
In reply to Post #252
They didn't specify who's patent.
They didn't specify who's patent.
From the video am I right in thinking the
3 camlock poles are unattached? You then have to
Fit them?
3 camlock poles are unattached? You then have to
Fit them?
In reply to Post #254
think ill go for the sonik axs instead cheaper and almost the same design.......
think ill go for the sonik axs instead cheaper and almost the same design.......
Zip in ground sheet sounds like a terrible idea too? How well will a zip work when it's been sat in a load of gritty mud?
In reply to Post #256
There raised about 4” a few company's offer it.
There raised about 4” a few company's offer it.
In reply to Post #254
From the video am I right in thinking the 3 camlock poles are unattached? You then have to Fit them?
Yes, they pop onto male inserts then extend to tension the front........
From the video am I right in thinking the 3 camlock poles are unattached? You then have to Fit them?
Yes, they pop onto male inserts then extend to tension the front........
In reply to Post #258
Cheers Wayne. I guess they just wanted
To be original.
Cheers Wayne. I guess they just wanted
To be original.
In reply to Post #258
Are you working for Cyprinus Wayne
Are you working for Cyprinus Wayne
I'm a sucker for a new bivvy but the fixed front, zip in groundsheet, weight and those cam lock detatchable bars have put me right off.... hallelujah it's literally a miracle my bivvy-itis has been cured
In reply to Post #261
Same.. just bought the Compact 2 man DPM4 instead..with wrap
Same.. just bought the Compact 2 man DPM4 instead..with wrap
In reply to Post #260
Are you working for Cyprinus Wayne.....No but should get commmision for the amount i praise there bivvies and what people have bought......
Are you working for Cyprinus Wayne.....No but should get commmision for the amount i praise there bivvies and what people have bought......
In reply to Post #263
drop them an email,you might get a free typhoon
drop them an email,you might get a free typhoon
In reply to Post #256
Pro logic Commander has a zip in groundsheet and the only one that I saw the guy loved it and hasn't had any problems with it at all you just need to zip it in before pegging it out
Pro logic Commander has a zip in groundsheet and the only one that I saw the guy loved it and hasn't had any problems with it at all you just need to zip it in before pegging it out
In reply to Post #261
The front doesn't come off?
The front doesn't come off?
In reply to Post #266
Shows on the video without one
Shows on the video without one
In reply to Post #263
Amazing what you can get just by asking 😁
Amazing what you can get just by asking 😁
In reply to Post #267
At about 51 seconds it's shown rolled up. Doesn't mean it doesn't come off, just it's rolled in that clip
At about 51 seconds it's shown rolled up. Doesn't mean it doesn't come off, just it's rolled in that clip
In reply to Post #269
Post 261 states its not removable,perhaps he has asked Cyprinus
Post 261 states its not removable,perhaps he has asked Cyprinus
In reply to Post #269
Yeah I'm kind of basing my assumption on that, there's no pics without the front, it's not mentioned in the description and someone on fb vaguely saying it was just roll up front... These teaser videos whip up a frenzy but aren't good for information... especially after that wait for the slow boat
Yeah I'm kind of basing my assumption on that, there's no pics without the front, it's not mentioned in the description and someone on fb vaguely saying it was just roll up front... These teaser videos whip up a frenzy but aren't good for information... especially after that wait for the slow boat
In reply to Post #261
"I'm a sucker for a new bivvy but the fixed front, zip in groundsheet, weight and those cam lock detatchable bars have put me right off"
With you here, I'm happy with what I have, but if the Cyprinus had been a major advancement at sensible money it could have been game on
They are definitely upping pricing of their goods. I'm not saying they are not worth it, but Cyprinus 'bargains' will soon be a thing of the past and more a case of better value for money...
"I'm a sucker for a new bivvy but the fixed front, zip in groundsheet, weight and those cam lock detatchable bars have put me right off"
With you here, I'm happy with what I have, but if the Cyprinus had been a major advancement at sensible money it could have been game on
They are definitely upping pricing of their goods. I'm not saying they are not worth it, but Cyprinus 'bargains' will soon be a thing of the past and more a case of better value for money...
In reply to Post #272
Cyprinus 'bargains' will soon be a thing of the past and more a case of better value for money.
I think you're jumping the gun a bit there buddy. This is the first shelter they've released that they've "designed" and built "themselves". It's not yet a complete reversal in business model imo. They still offer all the ripped-off Aqua stuff.
Cyprinus 'bargains' will soon be a thing of the past and more a case of better value for money.
I think you're jumping the gun a bit there buddy. This is the first shelter they've released that they've "designed" and built "themselves". It's not yet a complete reversal in business model imo. They still offer all the ripped-off Aqua stuff.
In reply to Post #273
Maybe I am not being clear. What I mean is, Aqua Fast and Light was what? £300? Cyprinus version of the exact same was half, or less than half that. I bought a Cyprinus V2 brolly utility front for £80 when the Trakker one was £160. Those 'half the price' of what they were copying items, are what I would consider bargains.
This new DPM Typhoon, priced as it is, will IMO deter a lot of people, as although it is cheaper than the Trakker/Aqua item it is copying, is probably priced +£100 over what it should be to consider it a bargain.
Again, IMO, design and built themselves is a backward step with the cam locks, spreader block design etc. Still at a premium price though, £400/£450 for a bivvy is still a hell of lot of wonga in anyones book!
Ps - i'm not saying it's a bad thing, but half price = bargain, £100 or so cheaper = good value for money. Both better options than paying max carp tax
Maybe I am not being clear. What I mean is, Aqua Fast and Light was what? £300? Cyprinus version of the exact same was half, or less than half that. I bought a Cyprinus V2 brolly utility front for £80 when the Trakker one was £160. Those 'half the price' of what they were copying items, are what I would consider bargains.
This new DPM Typhoon, priced as it is, will IMO deter a lot of people, as although it is cheaper than the Trakker/Aqua item it is copying, is probably priced +£100 over what it should be to consider it a bargain.
Again, IMO, design and built themselves is a backward step with the cam locks, spreader block design etc. Still at a premium price though, £400/£450 for a bivvy is still a hell of lot of wonga in anyones book!
Ps - i'm not saying it's a bad thing, but half price = bargain, £100 or so cheaper = good value for money. Both better options than paying max carp tax
In reply to Post #274
Compared to similar shelters, it's a bargain. If it were a £400 pram hood style bivvy then you'd have a point, but it's not. With the bits it comes with, it's at least £200 cheaper than it's closest comparable rival. Most would call that a bargain I'd imagine
Compared to similar shelters, it's a bargain. If it were a £400 pram hood style bivvy then you'd have a point, but it's not. With the bits it comes with, it's at least £200 cheaper than it's closest comparable rival. Most would call that a bargain I'd imagine
In reply to Post #275
I take all points made, but will let others spend £450 to see if those cam locks hold firm. Not saying I don't like the look, nor am I saying I wouldn't buy one at that price for the record, but...
Maybe I'm missing something, but would I be right to think this design is 100% untested in the field??!
I take all points made, but will let others spend £450 to see if those cam locks hold firm. Not saying I don't like the look, nor am I saying I wouldn't buy one at that price for the record, but...
Maybe I'm missing something, but would I be right to think this design is 100% untested in the field??!
What Cyprinus have offered in the past is pretty basic pramhood or brolly type shelters - little goes wrong with either and being copies minimised issues. .. Couple that with the budget prices (in comparison) the customer expectation is naturally less high. - This Typhoon is a different price range, more complex design ... which will mean bigger expectation from the customer - I do see it as Cyprinus making first moves towards a different demographic - The key for me is how Cyprinus deal with problems .... If they can get that right and offer top grade customer service .... they could become number 1 and clean up ..... Its a massive "IF" though and my gut tells me otherwise.
In reply to Post #274
I don't disagree buddy I just think we shouldn't be too quick to write them off based on a single product release
I don't disagree buddy I just think we shouldn't be too quick to write them off based on a single product release
In reply to Post #277
Looks good to me and at a very reasonable price too!
As a lot of you have already said it's going to be a case of if this is actually any good after a lot of use like the other tried and tested brands have been doing for some time. In the case I won't be forking out for one just yet and be a guinea pig just yet
And completely agree about the after sales help is gunna be key to the success of this product!!
Looks good to me and at a very reasonable price too!
As a lot of you have already said it's going to be a case of if this is actually any good after a lot of use like the other tried and tested brands have been doing for some time. In the case I won't be forking out for one just yet and be a guinea pig just yet
And completely agree about the after sales help is gunna be key to the success of this product!!
In reply to Post #277
There customer service is piss poor.I had a rib snap on one of their brollies and got no help whatsoever.I would rather pay extra and buy from a shop,at least I can return it then if any issues
There customer service is piss poor.I had a rib snap on one of their brollies and got no help whatsoever.I would rather pay extra and buy from a shop,at least I can return it then if any issues
In reply to Post #280
I had an issue with a bedchair that was damaged by a courier & a fast & light brolly where the material had been pinched.
Both times their customer service was spot on & they couldn't have been more helpful.
I had an issue with a bedchair that was damaged by a courier & a fast & light brolly where the material had been pinched.
Both times their customer service was spot on & they couldn't have been more helpful.
In reply to Post #281
Bugger me! Some people will steal bloody anything!!!
Bugger me! Some people will steal bloody anything!!!
Just seen they've got the green version available for pre order too now for 399 whereas the camo is 449.
In reply to Post #250
Hydrotec ...???? Material
Hydrotec ...???? Material
Green version looks much better IMO. Customer service for me has always been spot on but i have only ever returned stuff that wasnt damaged or that i had a actual problem with and simply changed my mind.......
Like for like against trakker i would take Cyprinus all day long as they use a heavier grade Aquatex and much cheaper....
Like for like against trakker i would take Cyprinus all day long as they use a heavier grade Aquatex and much cheaper....
In reply to Post #285
Confident those cam locks will hold over time?
Confident those cam locks will hold over time?
In reply to Post #286
can you not make cam locks tight again if they get a bit worn anyway ?
ive got a cyprinus HQ 2 man it uses the cam lock system never seen any slipping .i had a trakker tempest before and that was great to erect but leaked and the pole system was poor with elastics snapping all the time ,the quality of the cyprinus i have is superior even though made in the same factory ,it cost a nearly a third of the price inc a overwrap.
just my findings
can you not make cam locks tight again if they get a bit worn anyway ?
ive got a cyprinus HQ 2 man it uses the cam lock system never seen any slipping .i had a trakker tempest before and that was great to erect but leaked and the pole system was poor with elastics snapping all the time ,the quality of the cyprinus i have is superior even though made in the same factory ,it cost a nearly a third of the price inc a overwrap.
just my findings
In reply to Post #258
But these three camlock poles need a stable support in the form of the two stormpoles, don't they ?
Guess without the locked lever from the standard Tempest they would follow the gravitational force downwards, if they are not supported by the stormpoles.
Think this is a significant difference to the Tempest which you could just unfold and put anywhere without additional poles.
Just my impression, maybe I am wrong.
But these three camlock poles need a stable support in the form of the two stormpoles, don't they ?
Guess without the locked lever from the standard Tempest they would follow the gravitational force downwards, if they are not supported by the stormpoles.
Think this is a significant difference to the Tempest which you could just unfold and put anywhere without additional poles.
Just my impression, maybe I am wrong.
the Cam locks put me right off straight away. I have had camlock banksticks etc in the past & not one of them has lasted more than a season before they start to wear down. Nice concept but let down again by using something that if it worked more companies would be using them instead of thumb wheels of knurled collars (like the Solar PosiLock) which would have allowed the same sort of tightening without having to worry about things sticking up into the skull cap or wrap. I will buy a Trakker one as at least if anything goes wrong I can take back to my dealers front counter and get them to get it sorted instead of boxing it up & having to pay to have it sent back to them and waiting forever for a replacement.
In reply to Post #287
can you not make cam locks tight again if they get a bit worn anyway ?
If you think having to wrap tape around your £450 bivvy frame to keep it working is acceptable then go ahead. I wouldn't call that acceptable on a £100 item (Delkim battery cover advise so you can use them in the rain direct from them anyone?)
can you not make cam locks tight again if they get a bit worn anyway ?
If you think having to wrap tape around your £450 bivvy frame to keep it working is acceptable then go ahead. I wouldn't call that acceptable on a £100 item (Delkim battery cover advise so you can use them in the rain direct from them anyone?)
Does anyone know if the front can be unzipped yet ?
In reply to Post #291
It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them. Cyprinus is doing a brilliant job in breaking the monopoly of the big guys and all people do is try and find fault.
It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them. Cyprinus is doing a brilliant job in breaking the monopoly of the big guys and all people do is try and find fault.
In reply to Post #292
Haters gonna hate 😂
Haters gonna hate 😂
In reply to Post #293
Shake it off.....
Well I'm gonna buck the trend on here as I think it looks rather good. I'm not worried if the front is fixed as if it's that warm I'd be using a brolly.
As an owner of two other cyprinus shelters both with wraps. The quality isn't a problem for me as both have been perfect.
Not a camo fan even though I have a dpm4. I'd definitely hold on for the green if I was gonna get one.
Shake it off.....
Well I'm gonna buck the trend on here as I think it looks rather good. I'm not worried if the front is fixed as if it's that warm I'd be using a brolly.
As an owner of two other cyprinus shelters both with wraps. The quality isn't a problem for me as both have been perfect.
Not a camo fan even though I have a dpm4. I'd definitely hold on for the green if I was gonna get one.
No im not having a moan, just want to know if the front can be removed.
I think that's a nice looking shelter.
I think it looks spot on. Fair play to them
In reply to Post #292
"It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them"
Maybe a tad unfair, I don't think I have seen anyone saying they WILL fail, more concerns voiced over the longevity of such a system. Personally, I only find cam locks useful for bank stick duties where not taking a load. Personal experience has seen cam locks not being up to the job on more than one occasion when used as storm/under tension poles. So I don't think it is unreasonable to have concerns, especially when forking out £400/£450 for a new (untested) bivvy.
Not in dispute about it being a very good looking bivvy potentially offering value for money (I still don't consider it a bargain), but for the cost of it, it should be a tried & tested concept IMHO!!
"It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them"
Maybe a tad unfair, I don't think I have seen anyone saying they WILL fail, more concerns voiced over the longevity of such a system. Personally, I only find cam locks useful for bank stick duties where not taking a load. Personal experience has seen cam locks not being up to the job on more than one occasion when used as storm/under tension poles. So I don't think it is unreasonable to have concerns, especially when forking out £400/£450 for a new (untested) bivvy.
Not in dispute about it being a very good looking bivvy potentially offering value for money (I still don't consider it a bargain), but for the cost of it, it should be a tried & tested concept IMHO!!
In reply to Post #296
Looks like the front does not come off
Looks like the front does not come off
In reply to Post #292
It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them. Cyprinus is doing a brilliant job in breaking the monopoly of the big guys and all people do is try and find fault.
Don't need to look to find fault as they stand out blatantly! If CamLocks were reliable, then more manufacturers would use them. The Fox Black Label cam locks loosen over time & once they start deteriorating, they will worsen quicker than before. avid have just started to use a cam system on their Lockdown range of bank ware but as it is so new only time will tell although the cam levers look weak to my eye.
The reason why Cyprinus can sell their versions at lower prices is that there is no retailer mark up on them as buying direct. I bet they would be the same price as the Trakker or Aqua versions if they were sold through tackle shops. I would also hazard to say that Cyprinus's markup from there cost price to selling price is the same or close to Trakker or Aqua's trade pricing including VAT.if you add 20% Vat to the £450 of the rpm version for arguments sake, then add the standard 30% retailer markup it comes out at £702 which is as close as damnit to the £699 of the Tempest Advance 100.
If I am spending that sort of money on something I want to see it in the “flesh” before parting with my cash so I can examine everything and make sure that it is up to what I need. I don't know if Cyprinus have a storefront so potential customers can go and have a look before parting with heir hard earned?
It's funny how most have decided the cam locks will fail even before anyone actually has one and has reviewed the quality of them. Cyprinus is doing a brilliant job in breaking the monopoly of the big guys and all people do is try and find fault.
Don't need to look to find fault as they stand out blatantly! If CamLocks were reliable, then more manufacturers would use them. The Fox Black Label cam locks loosen over time & once they start deteriorating, they will worsen quicker than before. avid have just started to use a cam system on their Lockdown range of bank ware but as it is so new only time will tell although the cam levers look weak to my eye.
The reason why Cyprinus can sell their versions at lower prices is that there is no retailer mark up on them as buying direct. I bet they would be the same price as the Trakker or Aqua versions if they were sold through tackle shops. I would also hazard to say that Cyprinus's markup from there cost price to selling price is the same or close to Trakker or Aqua's trade pricing including VAT.if you add 20% Vat to the £450 of the rpm version for arguments sake, then add the standard 30% retailer markup it comes out at £702 which is as close as damnit to the £699 of the Tempest Advance 100.
If I am spending that sort of money on something I want to see it in the “flesh” before parting with my cash so I can examine everything and make sure that it is up to what I need. I don't know if Cyprinus have a storefront so potential customers can go and have a look before parting with heir hard earned?
In reply to Post #300
I have a very old Fox X pod plus, uses cam locks, still rock solid. Granted that's all I have that uses cam locks, but my message mainly was why are they being dismissed before anyone has seen or tested them for quality. Going by past failures, granted a number have occurred and moaned about, how many lost, stripped or cross threaded thumb screws in the past, loads I bet, lets talk about them as well, perhaps companies should always use captive thumb screws? Just a thought.
I have a very old Fox X pod plus, uses cam locks, still rock solid. Granted that's all I have that uses cam locks, but my message mainly was why are they being dismissed before anyone has seen or tested them for quality. Going by past failures, granted a number have occurred and moaned about, how many lost, stripped or cross threaded thumb screws in the past, loads I bet, lets talk about them as well, perhaps companies should always use captive thumb screws? Just a thought.
I'm getting the green one and will see what the cam locks are like. If they start slipping I will simply mod like the tempest V1 anti twist poles for a few quid......
In reply to Post #302
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? NO its Cyprinus Wayne I think you have got a bivvy fetish going on
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? NO its Cyprinus Wayne
I think you have got a bivvy fetish going on
In reply to Post #301
I have a very old Fox X pod plus, uses cam locks, still rock solid
That's a no pressure situation for the cam locks and that's why they will work fine
It's when there is pressure exerted on them that they begin to cease working correctly. On the Typhoon, you'll fit those 3 front bars and extend the poles to tension the front of the bivvy, it's that tension 'pushing back' that I could imagine eventually wearing the strength of the cam locks down
Happy to be proved wrong but could be weeks/months before you'd know. It's just if at that point you can't do anything about it, have you then got a sub-standard shelter that cost you £400+?
I have a very old Fox X pod plus, uses cam locks, still rock solid
That's a no pressure situation for the cam locks and that's why they will work fine
It's when there is pressure exerted on them that they begin to cease working correctly. On the Typhoon, you'll fit those 3 front bars and extend the poles to tension the front of the bivvy, it's that tension 'pushing back' that I could imagine eventually wearing the strength of the cam locks down
Happy to be proved wrong but could be weeks/months before you'd know. It's just if at that point you can't do anything about it, have you then got a sub-standard shelter that cost you £400+?
In reply to Post #302
if the cam locks start slipping Why not just fit a these much better idea IMO ?
if the cam locks start slipping Why not just fit a these much better idea IMO ?
Just seen on there Facebook page answering someone about the cam locks, saying if they do fail they will replace them immediately.
Lovely looking bit of kit ... but the shelter alone weighs 9.5kg (plus greoundsheet and pegs etc) ... thats too heavy for me unless doing longer sessions ... and if i do long session i want 2man size... Bivvies seem to be going the way bedchairs did for a while (big and heavy) ... hopefully it will come full circle again
... but the shelter alone weighs 9.5kg (plus greoundsheet and pegs etc) ... thats too heavy for me unless doing longer sessions ... and if i do long session i want 2man size... Bivvies seem to be going the way bedchairs did for a while (big and heavy) ... hopefully it will come full circle again
In reply to Post #305
Gerry, could you let me know where I can get these from please? Thanks.
Gerry, could you let me know where I can get these from please? Thanks.
In reply to Post #308
Loads on ebay mate
Loads on ebay mate
In reply to Post #305
What even are they ?
What even are they ?
In reply to Post #310
I'm not sure either, presuming you push together then slide inside tube, then drill hole in tube that slides over and it pops the silver pin up to hold in place. Am I right?!
I'm not sure either, presuming you push together then slide inside tube, then drill hole in tube that slides over and it pops the silver pin up to hold in place. Am I right?!
In reply to Post #311
In reply to Post #305
if the cam locks start slipping Why not just fit a these much better idea IMO ?........There what i meant Gerry....
if the cam locks start slipping Why not just fit a these much better idea IMO ?........There what i meant Gerry....
If the cams started slipping I'm pretty sure they'd just send you out three new poles wouldn't they?
What is the difference between the Cyprinus Typhoon Full Bivvy System DPM4 and the M4?
Thanks in advance.
Ray.
Thanks in advance.
Ray.
In reply to Post #315
The M4 is a pram hood mate, completely different design.
Google the pics
The M4 is a pram hood mate, completely different design.
Google the pics
In reply to Post #316
Thanks
Thanks
In reply to Post #315
DPM4 is Camo and M4 is the Green
DPM4 is Camo and M4 is the Green
I asked
In reply to Post #309
Thanks mate. What are they called?
Thanks mate. What are they called?
In reply to Post #320
I put in,push button spring clip
I put in,push button spring clip
In reply to Post #320
Spring button BUT !!!!!!!!!!!! dont buy the cheap Chinese ones the spring metal is crap ! I bought a set !!
however these are brilliant LINKY POO
I modded my V1 Bivvy poles works superb now
Spring button BUT !!!!!!!!!!!! dont buy the cheap Chinese ones the spring metal is crap ! I bought a set !!
however these are brilliant LINKY POO
I modded my V1 Bivvy poles works superb now
In reply to Post #322
Thanks Gerry - just ordered them
Thanks Gerry - just ordered them
For those that have got a bivvy with a zip in ground sheet , does it still have a skirt on the bottom of the bivvy ? ,so you can just lay it in the bivvy with out zipping it in.
In reply to Post #324
I think if I had a bivvy with a zip in groundsheet, if I was going to the effort of using it and messing about with skirts etc, I'd jest zip it in. Cant see it taking any longer to be honest
I think if I had a bivvy with a zip in groundsheet, if I was going to the effort of using it and messing about with skirts etc, I'd jest zip it in. Cant see it taking any longer to be honest
In reply to Post #325
May well be until the zips start getting caped in mud and grit etc then i can imagine it being a right ball ache to start zipping it in.
May well be until the zips start getting caped in mud and grit etc then i can imagine it being a right ball ache to start zipping it in.
I've had zip off fronts on brollies and found them
To be a fiddly arse ache. Hands and knees
In a bivvy is not going to suit me.
To be a fiddly arse ache. Hands and knees
In a bivvy is not going to suit me.
In reply to Post #322
Nice one , just ordered .
Nice one , just ordered .
In reply to Post #328
Just seen they have a few pics up on the website now
Looks good
https://www.cyprinus.co.uk/products/cyprinus-typhoon-full-bivvy-system-dpm4-20-000hh
Just seen they have a few pics up on the website now
Looks good
https://www.cyprinus.co.uk/products/cyprinus-typhoon-full-bivvy-system-dpm4-20-000hh
In reply to Post #329
So its lower than the Tempest V2 bivvy
So its lower than the Tempest V2 bivvy
In reply to Post #330
V2 brolly is 125H and the Typhoon is 135H so 10cm Higher according to dimensions.......
V2 brolly is 125H and the Typhoon is 135H so 10cm Higher according to dimensions.......
In reply to Post #331
But its a bivvy ? and not a brolly ???
V2 bivvy 140 h Typhoon 135 h and as I said in my post
>>>So its lower than the Tempest V2 bivvy
But its a bivvy ? and not a brolly ???
V2 bivvy 140 h Typhoon 135 h and as I said in my post
>>>So its lower than the Tempest V2 bivvy
In reply to Post #332
Either way it's still well over 4 feet tall, plenty tall enough for the average angler surely?
Either way it's still well over 4 feet tall, plenty tall enough for the average angler surely?
In reply to Post #333
Must admit 135H seems high enough to me as you spend 99.9% time sat in it.......
Must admit 135H seems high enough to me as you spend 99.9% time sat in it.......
In reply to Post #334
Exactly mate, not sure what these lads who want extra tall bivvies do in them tbh. Plus much taller and they turn into superb wind socks...
Exactly mate, not sure what these lads who want extra tall bivvies do in them tbh. Plus much taller and they turn into superb wind socks...
In reply to Post #335
God knows?? As long as you can sit on a bedchair with a bedchair buddy without your head touching the top then should be no real requirement for 1 man bivvys being 160+ in height.......
God knows?? As long as you can sit on a bedchair with a bedchair buddy without your head touching the top then should be no real requirement for 1 man bivvys being 160+ in height.......
Aren't Trakker revealing a new higher Tempest something at midday today?? Unless I don't understand Twitter... (highly possible! )
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In reply to Post #337
Looks like it mate
Looks like it mate
In reply to Post #333
but its the doorway doorway height we are bothered about not the top of the roof m8
and
YES !!! there are a lot of people like me that want a higher bivvy I think you will find
but its the doorway doorway height we are bothered about not the top of the roof m8
and
YES !!! there are a lot of people like me that want a higher bivvy I think you will find
In reply to Post #339
Some do gerry yes, but you are in the minority by the sound of it mate. The companies cater for the masses, not the minority. It wouldn't make good business sense for them to cater for the smaller market. Something like this, cyprinus are aiming for the mass market, tempest type bivvy users. You may find that if this is a success then they bring out a taller version like nash have with the hide
Some do gerry yes, but you are in the minority by the sound of it mate. The companies cater for the masses, not the minority. It wouldn't make good business sense for them to cater for the smaller market. Something like this, cyprinus are aiming for the mass market, tempest type bivvy users. You may find that if this is a success then they bring out a taller version like nash have with the hide
£849 RRP ? 😮 Cyprinus are taking the pi55.I would love to know how they justify that.
As they have only one retail outlet now,are they recommending that price to themselves?
As they have only one retail outlet now,are they recommending that price to themselves?
In reply to Post #340
Cant agree with that m8 I think the split is more like 50/50 so we will have to agree to disagree
Cant agree with that m8 I think the split is more like 50/50 so we will have to agree to disagree
In reply to Post #337
All the companies do that, not just tackle companies. Mark something with a massive rrp then price it much less so it looks a bargain. Nash even put their rrp ssp and trade prices all in their trade price list so shops can advertise these big "discounts"
All the companies do that, not just tackle companies. Mark something with a massive rrp then price it much less so it looks a bargain. Nash even put their rrp ssp and trade prices all in their trade price list so shops can advertise these big "discounts"
In reply to Post #341
RRP is £850 but selling for £400......
RRP is £850 but selling for £400......
In reply to Post #343
Yeah,understand that. I worked in retail for near 40 years. If it's a genuine discount then RRP it to the hilt to maximise sales,but Cyprinus are just plucking large figures out of the air for their RRPs surely.
What next..Buy one get one free..Cost £849.99? 😂
Yeah,understand that. I worked in retail for near 40 years. If it's a genuine discount then RRP it to the hilt to maximise sales,but Cyprinus are just plucking large figures out of the air for their RRPs surely.
What next..Buy one get one free..Cost £849.99? 😂
In reply to Post #345
Got to agree rrp is just wishful thinking. It's what they sell for in the real world that counts.
Got to agree rrp is just wishful thinking. It's what they sell for in the real world that counts.
In reply to Post #341
Maybe they're just implying the top of the range tempest and some sort of extra this has, would cost £850?
Or that if they were not their own distributor, that is the retail equivalent you could be paying..
Or they're just full of ****
Maybe they're just implying the top of the range tempest and some sort of extra this has, would cost £850?
Or that if they were not their own distributor, that is the retail equivalent you could be paying..
Or they're just full of ****
this forum is the only time i hear/read complaints about the height of bivvies ... ive never heard it on the bank. A 1man bivvy has always been between 125cm-135cm .... If you want taller bivvy there are plenty of 2man bivvies that will give higher dimensions ... there are loads to choose from
In reply to Post #348
Fox R series XL best headroom 1 manner
Lovely bit of kit
Fox R series XL best headroom 1 manner
Lovely bit of kit
In reply to Post #348
facebook has plenty of moans too and the popularity of the Hide XL speaks for its self surely
facebook has plenty of moans too
and the popularity of the Hide XL speaks for its self surely
Time will tell, but I think Cyprinus have missed the point with this one. Everyone who owns the tempest brolly loves it, but some people don't want to spend £220 plus extras. Fair enough. If cyprinus would have ripped it off for £150 with their cheaper extras then those people are happy.
Instead they have marketed it as a semi premium product with a high RRP that they will discount to a still fairly premium price that looks good against their own RRP. As they are their own direct retailer the RRP is nonsense. I could sell my sweaty underpants on a website for £10 at a 90% discount from their £100 RRP. If it was my website.
The zip in groundsheet must be something the factory recommended in China, I can't see why anyone would want this. The cam locks also. Does it have anti twist poles? If not that is another step back.
Safe to say I won't be trading in my V2 brolly just yet
Instead they have marketed it as a semi premium product with a high RRP that they will discount to a still fairly premium price that looks good against their own RRP. As they are their own direct retailer the RRP is nonsense. I could sell my sweaty underpants on a website for £10 at a 90% discount from their £100 RRP. If it was my website.
The zip in groundsheet must be something the factory recommended in China, I can't see why anyone would want this. The cam locks also. Does it have anti twist poles? If not that is another step back.
Safe to say I won't be trading in my V2 brolly just yet
In reply to Post #351
Also, does anyone actually regulate hydrostatic head specification claims? Is there a guy with a 20,000 mm tube who holds it on the fabric of a test bivvy and looks for drips? Do they do the same test on the seams where you are actually likely to get a leak? Or the groundsheet, which is just as important, if not more at keeping damp out?
Also, does anyone actually regulate hydrostatic head specification claims? Is there a guy with a 20,000 mm tube who holds it on the fabric of a test bivvy and looks for drips? Do they do the same test on the seams where you are actually likely to get a leak? Or the groundsheet, which is just as important, if not more at keeping damp out?
In reply to Post #352
The RRP reflects the prices that other manufacturers are charging for a comparable system. I own two cyprinus shelters, both with wraps, and I've owned aqua and trakker in the past. The build quality of my cyprinus stuff is exactly the same, and considerably better than the fox shelter I had. So I'd say even at £300 it represents very good value for money.
On the seams, the waterproof integrity of any material is compromised, that's why they have taped seams. The hydrostatic head is only important on the main panels, to stop water coming through when hard rain is driving against them under force, or dripping through if water puddles on it somewhere.
Regarding the groundsheet, I've never seen one made of aquatex, so I'm not sure the hydrostatic head matters.
The RRP reflects the prices that other manufacturers are charging for a comparable system. I own two cyprinus shelters, both with wraps, and I've owned aqua and trakker in the past. The build quality of my cyprinus stuff is exactly the same, and considerably better than the fox shelter I had. So I'd say even at £300 it represents very good value for money.
On the seams, the waterproof integrity of any material is compromised, that's why they have taped seams. The hydrostatic head is only important on the main panels, to stop water coming through when hard rain is driving against them under force, or dripping through if water puddles on it somewhere.
Regarding the groundsheet, I've never seen one made of aquatex, so I'm not sure the hydrostatic head matters.
In reply to Post #353
hydrostatic head is test with a machine, the material is sealed over a pop of water, the material is claimed into place then pressure is pumped in. when the water starts to seep through the gauge give you the pressure reading not rocket science
hydrostatic head is test with a machine, the material is sealed over a pop of water, the material is claimed into place then pressure is pumped in. when the water starts to seep through the gauge give you the pressure reading not rocket science
In reply to Post #351
Safe to say I won't be trading in my V2 brolly just yet
Your post makes no sense imo buddy. I also wanted to see a cheapo TB but that's not what was released and not what we should be comparing it to or judging it against. It's a full bivvy system.
I hear they're working on a stripped out brolly version. If and when that's released then we can decide whether the price is any good or not.
The Typhoon was never intended to compete with the TB. It's competition to the Tempest Advanced 100 Bivvy (which is twice the price).
Safe to say I won't be trading in my V2 brolly just yet
Your post makes no sense imo buddy. I also wanted to see a cheapo TB but that's not what was released and not what we should be comparing it to or judging it against. It's a full bivvy system.
I hear they're working on a stripped out brolly version. If and when that's released then we can decide whether the price is any good or not.
The Typhoon was never intended to compete with the TB. It's competition to the Tempest Advanced 100 Bivvy (which is twice the price).
In reply to Post #354
I'm aware what a hydrostatic head is and how it would be tested in a factory. My point was does anyone actually check that the manufacturers claims are accurate? Would we even know if we had 15,000 instead of 20,000.
I'm aware what a hydrostatic head is and how it would be tested in a factory. My point was does anyone actually check that the manufacturers claims are accurate? Would we even know if we had 15,000 instead of 20,000.
In reply to Post #355
My mistake, I thought they were going for the brolly plus extras market.
My mistake, I thought they were going for the brolly plus extras market.
In reply to Post #357
Hopefully won't be too long before the brolly jobby is released mate
Hopefully won't be too long before the brolly jobby is released mate
In reply to Post #358
Hopefully they will do an optional zip in front for the brolly version.
Hopefully they will do an optional zip in front for the brolly version.
In reply to Post #351
The typhoon is compared to the V2 bivvy system not the V2 brolly.......
The typhoon is compared to the V2 bivvy system not the V2 brolly.......
Video review of the Typhoon here - A Cyprinus associate who claims isnt biased .... and after a whopping 24hrs use he unsurprisingly cant fault it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ddMB6bxReI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3qKZbAaej2rklPZEBYaALXKYiomDb9J0b6TDh81kB2fZ7rux0KZMdiBLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ddMB6bxReI&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3qKZbAaej2rklPZEBYaALXKYiomDb9J0b6TDh81kB2fZ7rux0KZMdiBLM
In reply to Post #361
24hrs isn't enough.
It took me ten years of use to discover my Mrs has serious design flaws.
24hrs isn't enough.
It took me ten years of use to discover my Mrs has serious design flaws.
In reply to Post #362
i agree, praising it to the rafters and the claims made after one night looks a bit silly! ..... Would of been better to of done a product feature type video
i agree, praising it to the rafters and the claims made after one night looks a bit silly! ..... Would of been better to of done a product feature type video
In reply to Post #363
I thought the same. Also said there are zero negatives yet his head was touching the room when sat on bed chair which made it look low inside with inner capsule in
I thought the same. Also said there are zero negatives yet his head was touching the room when sat on bed chair which made it look low inside with inner capsule in
In reply to Post #364
well it is lower than the V2 Bivvy anyway big mistake in my mind
and clearly he works for them as he said we will swop it etc so how the **** can he call it a review
he is hardly likely to find any flaws is he
well it is lower than the V2 Bivvy anyway
big mistake in my mind and clearly he works for them as he said we will swop it etc so how the **** can he call it a review
he is hardly likely to find any flaws is he
In reply to Post #361
Everything this kid uses is now the best out there or what he's told to use I used to watch his channel now more though it's just blatantly ramming gear down our throats
Everything this kid uses is now the best out there or what he's told to use I used to watch his channel now more though it's just blatantly ramming gear down our throats
That review is flawed but still a cracking bit of kit.......
In reply to Post #367
Yes not denying that.
I reckon I will end up with one by the end of 2020.
Well happy with the 2 man compact though.. proper bivvy that, doing 3 nights over xmas, cant wait.
Yes not denying that.
I reckon I will end up with one by the end of 2020.
Well happy with the 2 man compact though.. proper bivvy that, doing 3 nights over xmas, cant wait.
The lad clearly works for them and would never say anything about it in the “review” I think it's to low personally and won't be getting one myself you can see his head touching the roof in the video. The idea is good but I'll be honest if I wanted that sort of system I'd pay the extra for the trakker one tried and tested, cheaper isn't always better. My friend has bought one how ever and will have a look at his.
In reply to Post #369
Noticed this and it's definitely lower than the V3 with inner capsule fitted. Cheaper though.
I'd have liked just the vapour shield option for the V3. Copy them trakker' go on.
Noticed this and it's definitely lower than the V3 with inner capsule fitted. Cheaper though.
I'd have liked just the vapour shield option for the V3. Copy them trakker' go on.
In reply to Post #361
That block looks garbage...
If they release a sub 4kg open fronted one in green for about a bullseye I'll be tempted, otherwise no thanks
That block looks garbage...
If they release a sub 4kg open fronted one in green for about a bullseye I'll be tempted, otherwise no thanks
In reply to Post #369
But trakker gear is garbage if you ask me...there quality went years ago...
But trakker gear is garbage if you ask me...there quality went years ago...
In reply to Post #372
The way I see it is no one builds stuff to last anymore. That all ended with the Union Jack Aqua stuff. So given that you might as well buy cyprinus. It's a comparable quality to the current trakker, Aqua, Nash stuff but less than half the price.
The way I look at it, owning a few of their bivvy items then I reckon I will easily get 5+ years out of them and if I'm honest Probably longer. So for a brolly that cost me less than £75 and a bivvy that was less than £150 I think I'm doing alright.
Does anyone actually think that If they pat twice as much for a trakker that it will last twice as long or be twice as good?
The way I see it is no one builds stuff to last anymore. That all ended with the Union Jack Aqua stuff. So given that you might as well buy cyprinus. It's a comparable quality to the current trakker, Aqua, Nash stuff but less than half the price.
The way I look at it, owning a few of their bivvy items then I reckon I will easily get 5+ years out of them and if I'm honest Probably longer. So for a brolly that cost me less than £75 and a bivvy that was less than £150 I think I'm doing alright.
Does anyone actually think that If they pat twice as much for a trakker that it will last twice as long or be twice as good?
In reply to Post #373
I had a Sonik XTI Supadome. Had it for about 3-4 years and paid £250 new. £450 RRP and it was falling apart by the end.
I had a Sonik XTI Supadome. Had it for about 3-4 years and paid £250 new. £450 RRP and it was falling apart by the end.
In reply to Post #373
Trakker probably spend a fair bit on development. Same with Nash, Korda and others.
Buying copies kill invention.
That's why I prefer buying the originals if possible.
Each to their own of course.
Trakker probably spend a fair bit on development. Same with Nash, Korda and others.
Buying copies kill invention.
That's why I prefer buying the originals if possible.
Each to their own of course.
In reply to Post #372
Trakker just got Kakker.
Trakker just got Kakker.
In reply to Post #375
Yet both Trakker & Nash copied the original Armadillo design as did many others most of the major tackle manufacturers are guilty of plagiarism !!
Yet both Trakker & Nash copied the original Armadillo design as did many others most of the major tackle manufacturers are guilty of plagiarism !!
In reply to Post #369
He fully admits that he works for/with them to be fair
He fully admits that he works for/with them to be fair
In reply to Post #377
True, but would you invent a square wheel just because someone else had already invented the circular one.
True, but would you invent a square wheel just because someone else had already invented the circular one.
In reply to Post #377
Once the initial hype dies down of the Typhoon I dont see the likes of Cyprinus denting or concerning the bigger brands with this product ... its not cheap enough for many people to to risk a "non brand" and there will always be people that buy the premium "labels" at higher cost because it has a "label" ... this happens in all areas of consumerism. Non brands need to be under £200 imo ... To me their M4 range is a better proposition in terms of value.
Once the initial hype dies down of the Typhoon I dont see the likes of Cyprinus denting or concerning the bigger brands with this product ... its not cheap enough for many people to to risk a "non brand" and there will always be people that buy the premium "labels" at higher cost because it has a "label" ... this happens in all areas of consumerism. Non brands need to be under £200 imo ... To me their M4 range is a better proposition in terms of value.
In reply to Post #371
Same block as the Air !!
Same block as the Air !!
In reply to Post #381
In what way
In what way
In reply to Post #378
Yeah but kept saying he'll give a honest review if he doesn't like it he'll say 😂😂 yeah right.
It was just one big sales pitch
Yeah but kept saying he'll give a honest review if he doesn't like it he'll say 😂😂 yeah right.
It was just one big sales pitch
In reply to Post #383
He's blocked comments because I asked a few questions. he didn't even understand Hydrostatic Head just kept telling me it's better. Crap review same with Carpology , it's what the seller wants to hear not what they need to be told to make things better.
He's blocked comments because I asked a few questions. he didn't even understand Hydrostatic Head just kept telling me it's better. Crap review same with Carpology , it's what the seller wants to hear not what they need to be told to make things better.
In reply to Post #382
The block is the same in that way 🙄
The block is the same in that way 🙄
In reply to Post #385
I actually just prefer it when company anglers are just open about it. If I watch a korda promo video I expect them to be using korda products. I don't need them to be telling me how wonderful they think they are. I'd find it a bit odd if one of them demonstrated a product and then picked holes in it, id wonder why they'd released it.
Promos should be promos and reviews should be reviews. The two shouldn't mix.
I actually just prefer it when company anglers are just open about it. If I watch a korda promo video I expect them to be using korda products. I don't need them to be telling me how wonderful they think they are. I'd find it a bit odd if one of them demonstrated a product and then picked holes in it, id wonder why they'd released it.
Promos should be promos and reviews should be reviews. The two shouldn't mix.
In reply to Post #384
Exactly the same for me. Asked a few simple questions and got blocked 🤷♂️ Just says it all really
Exactly the same for me. Asked a few simple questions and got blocked 🤷♂️ Just says it all really
In reply to Post #381
The air has a pole that pulls over and is retained same as the bivvy doesn't it? The v1 did as far as I recall.
This cyprinus thing looks like an awkward combination of 2 bob plastic push on bits and extending front ribs for tension.
The air has a pole that pulls over and is retained same as the bivvy doesn't it? The v1 did as far as I recall.
This cyprinus thing looks like an awkward combination of 2 bob plastic push on bits and extending front ribs for tension.
In reply to Post #385
On the air I had it was nothing like it
On the air I had it was nothing like it
Was really considering getting this bivvy but not to sure now, will get the trakker advanced brolly instead as i can pick it up for the same price as the typhoon .
In reply to Post #389
I'm referring to the block not the pole system which is totally different 😉
I'm referring to the block not the pole system which is totally different 😉
In reply to Post #391
The air version looks alot stronger but having not seen the typhoon version I can't really comment
The air version looks alot stronger but having not seen the typhoon version I can't really comment
In reply to Post #390
You can get an advanced with the fronts and groundsheet for the same money? Is that right?
You can get an advanced with the fronts and groundsheet for the same money? Is that right?
In reply to Post #393
The advanced brolly yes
The advanced brolly yes
In reply to Post #361
that review guy is a misleading bellend, he has even turned the comments off now, trying to make out its totally independent, hes dishonest in what hes trying to lead people into thinking,.when this is totally advertising in some form
that review guy is a misleading bellend, he has even turned the comments off now, trying to make out its totally independent, hes dishonest in what hes trying to lead people into thinking,.when this is totally advertising in some form
In reply to Post #395
The video does begin with a cyprinus logo, maybe overview would've been a better description.
Bell end is possibly a tad harsh
The video does begin with a cyprinus logo, maybe overview would've been a better description.
Bell end is possibly a tad harsh
In reply to Post #396
He said in the blog he is with cyprinus.
He said in the blog he is with cyprinus.
In reply to Post #397
The logo is actually in the bottom corner for the entire video too, I think it's just a bad choice of description because the affiliation is quite obvious.
Media professionals and business/legal advice is obviously where some of trakker's inflated prices go because they certainly appear more savvy in that department
The logo is actually in the bottom corner for the entire video too, I think it's just a bad choice of description because the affiliation is quite obvious.
Media professionals and business/legal advice is obviously where some of trakker's inflated prices go because they certainly appear more savvy in that department
Shocking video review no thought at all!! Which is why being on here is still useful. Trust some peoples views on here more than these video reviews!!
In reply to Post #399
saw that quest tackle are coming out with a version of their own for 299. looks alot like bloxx 150 cm high in the opening.....
saw that quest tackle are coming out with a version of their own for 299. looks alot like bloxx 150 cm high in the opening.....
Just bumping this up, anyone got one and used one yet?
In reply to Post #401
I believe there being posted out tomorrow spod.
I believe there being posted out tomorrow spod.
In reply to Post #402
From the same factory no doubt in China
From the same factory no doubt in China
Tacklediscounts website are now listing a skull cap, wrap and extended utility front for these now I think.
In reply to Post #404
Cyprinus have them listed on there website too.....
Cyprinus have them listed on there website too.....
Anyone received there TYPHOON today ?
In reply to Post #406
My friend did he sent me a few pics he is very impressed I'll see it in person next weekend
My friend did he sent me a few pics he is very impressed I'll see it in person next weekend
In reply to Post #407
Anychance of posting them up ?
Anychance of posting them up ?
In reply to Post #406
Recieved mine today, not had the chance to put it up yet but I am doing the weekend so will see how it performs
Recieved mine today, not had the chance to put it up yet but I am doing the weekend so will see how it performs
In reply to Post #409
My mate is keen on the typhoon so would be watching with interest too......
Sticking to my Titan Camo T2 personally
My mate is keen on the typhoon so would be watching with interest too......
Sticking to my Titan Camo T2 personally
In reply to Post #409
Could you measure the height of the doorway when you have it set up normally please mate ?
Could you measure the height of the doorway when you have it set up normally please mate ?
In reply to Post #411
Your obsessed Gerry.......
Your obsessed Gerry.......
In reply to Post #411
Just get it set up and so far I am very impressed. Build quality seems excellent, very quick and easy to erect for the first time even in the dark. At the moment it all points to being just as good as the magnatex brolly I had from Cyprinos about 6 years ago that has been bullet proof.
Gerry just measured the door height the best I could with a rig box and I would say the door height is around 1050-1100mm.
Just get it set up and so far I am very impressed. Build quality seems excellent, very quick and easy to erect for the first time even in the dark. At the moment it all points to being just as good as the magnatex brolly I had from Cyprinos about 6 years ago that has been bullet proof.
Gerry just measured the door height the best I could with a rig box and I would say the door height is around 1050-1100mm.
In reply to Post #413
That sounds really low.. I think its supposed to be 1250mm
That sounds really low.. I think its supposed to be 1250mm
Went around my mates house today to see it in person, my mate was sat on a fox r2 bed without the legs extended at all on a bedchair buddy, his head was touching and pushing the vapour shield up it seems pretty low tbh
So wish they had made it with a removable front for when you want to travel light in the summer time.
In reply to Post #412
Your obsessed Gerry..
Wayne !!!!!!
the reason I want to know the heights is I want it for my River fishing and where I fish I need to have the rod tips as high as possible keeping as much line out of the water as possible and I like watching the tips
SO now that rules out completely this shelter thanks to Simon measuring it ( most manufacturers specs normal are well out)
so now its between the Nash Hide XL OR The new Trakker Tempest 100 T that Trakker have now admitted ((when the responded to my letter and phoned me up a couple of days ago )) they dont know the doorway height until the new shipment arrives soon
Your obsessed Gerry..
Wayne !!!!!!
the reason I want to know the heights is I want it for my River fishing and where I fish I need to have the rod tips as high as possible keeping as much line out of the water as possible and I like watching the tips
SO now that rules out completely this shelter thanks to Simon measuring it ( most manufacturers specs normal are well out)
so now its between the Nash Hide XL OR The new Trakker Tempest 100 T that Trakker have now admitted ((when the responded to my letter and phoned me up a couple of days ago )) they dont know the doorway height until the new shipment arrives soon
In reply to Post #417
They don't know the door height of there own bivvy till they take a delivery .
Oh my god you really think they would have all the specs on there system.
Bloody comical if you ask me
They don't know the door height of there own bivvy till they take a delivery
.Oh my god you really think they would have all the specs on there system.
Bloody comical if you ask me
Over the years all tackle companies i have rung up with a specific enquiry have proven to be clueless.
Except Defiant and Bruce Ashby . RIP
Except Defiant and Bruce Ashby . RIP
In reply to Post #416
Exactly what I was thinking, it ticks all the boxes except the removable front
Exactly what I was thinking, it ticks all the boxes except the removable front
In reply to Post #420
You can roll the front back and have an open shelter.
You can roll the front back and have an open shelter.
In reply to Post #421
Not exactly groundbreaking......
🤣🤣
Not exactly groundbreaking......
🤣🤣
In reply to Post #422
Is it supposed to be a groundbreaking shelter then .
Is it supposed to be a groundbreaking shelter then .
In reply to Post #423
Revolutionary according to Cyprinus..
Revolutionary according to Cyprinus..
In reply to Post #417
I see Quest tackle are releasing their version of these shelters( it's described with photos on their Facebook page) and it looks great to me..150 cm high with zip off front and they state will be reasonably priced.might be worth a look ...
I see Quest tackle are releasing their version of these shelters( it's described with photos on their Facebook page) and it looks great to me..150 cm high with zip off front and they state will be reasonably priced.might be worth a look ...
In reply to Post #425
The quest tackle one actually looks the best version of a tempest copy yet......
The quest tackle one actually looks the best version of a tempest copy yet......
In reply to Post #426
They are actually asking for customer feedback too.Asking if there is anything they could change to make it better
They are actually asking for customer feedback too.Asking if there is anything they could change to make it better
My thoughts on these tall tempest bivvys is they are going to struggle in high winds.
It was always wind to the back of the bivvy but that isnt going to make much difference with these.
It was always wind to the back of the bivvy but that isnt going to make much difference with these.
In reply to Post #428
Agreed, small footprint and height is a recipe for problems in wind ..... and risk looking more like a toilet tent
Quest with built in peak looks the best design to me (similar to JRC Bloxx?) - If they can keep the weight down with a good quality nylon (no need for Aquatex as is heavy and overkill for a quick erect shelter) ... Keep the functionality simple, (as fewer zips as possible) and get the price around £200 i think they could be onto a winner.
Agreed, small footprint and height is a recipe for problems in wind ..... and risk looking more like a toilet tent
Quest with built in peak looks the best design to me (similar to JRC Bloxx?) - If they can keep the weight down with a good quality nylon (no need for Aquatex as is heavy and overkill for a quick erect shelter) ... Keep the functionality simple, (as fewer zips as possible) and get the price around £200 i think they could be onto a winner.
In reply to Post #429
It's a larger footprint than the tempest advanced 100 bivvy and 15 cm taller so not exactly toilet tent territory and can't imagine it's going to be a problem in the wind.Personally I like aquatex type materials as they are cooler in the summer and I like dark and gloomy interiors...not sure what that says about me🤔...they reckon about 6 weeks until available .
It's a larger footprint than the tempest advanced 100 bivvy and 15 cm taller so not exactly toilet tent territory and can't imagine it's going to be a problem in the wind.Personally I like aquatex type materials as they are cooler in the summer and I like dark and gloomy interiors...not sure what that says about me🤔...they reckon about 6 weeks until available .
In reply to Post #430
Aquatex has its place ... I have bivvies with Aquatex
Aquatex has its place ... I have bivvies with Aquatex
It's not just the height V footprint.
I as convenient as the modern bivvies are
In having flat backs that give more internal space
They are quite a big flat panel to catch the wind.
The pramhoods with 2 ribs also to so some extent.
If you then make it higher and higher......
I as convenient as the modern bivvies are
In having flat backs that give more internal space
They are quite a big flat panel to catch the wind.
The pramhoods with 2 ribs also to so some extent.
If you then make it higher and higher......
In reply to Post #432
Yeah I actually don't like having my bed right at the back, I'm nosey I guess.
Yeah I actually don't like having my bed right at the back, I'm nosey I guess.
In reply to Post #432
That's why back to a gale force wind the original titan and your pioneer were rock solid.
That's why back to a gale force wind the original titan and your pioneer were rock solid.
In reply to Post #434
Oops just bought a cyprinus wide sleep system... gonna be blanking in comfort now lol
Oops just bought a cyprinus wide sleep system... gonna be blanking in comfort now lol
In reply to Post #435
Was tempted to for the M4 2 man......👍👍
Was tempted to for the M4 2 man......👍👍
In reply to Post #426
The new dpm one by Quest baits is up on their Facebook page, Wayne. Looks great but of kit! 10 000 hh, skull cap and internal vapor shield, 150 cm high too.
The new dpm one by Quest baits is up on their Facebook page, Wayne. Looks great but of kit! 10 000 hh, skull cap and internal vapor shield, 150 cm high too.
In reply to Post #437
The quest one looks nice but is it better than the typoon itdosent look like it is
The quest one looks nice but is it better than the typoon itdosent look like it is
In reply to Post #438
To me, it seems better. Especially the block of the Cyprinus worries me.
To me, it seems better. Especially the block of the Cyprinus worries me.
In reply to Post #437
The dpm is 20,000hh
The dpm is 20,000hh
Oh my, Quest really have snuck this in, looks best design of the lot with 20000mm HH, the peak and overlapping side panels .... Now Cyprinus will feel how Trakker felt when they done it to them .... Only real winner at the moment is the consumer
In reply to Post #441
apart from the height 150cm its not clear which is width and which is depth ?? it looks deep from the pictures so is it 280 deep ? or wide ?
apart from the height 150cm its not clear which is width and which is depth ??
it looks deep from the pictures so is it 280 deep ? or wide ?
In reply to Post #442
Looks wider,than it is deep Gerry .
Looks wider,than it is deep Gerry .
In reply to Post #443
Well if it was Deeper than the width I would have preferred it
as then you would then have the option of having your bed right back with the front off giving you more protection if it rained or nice storage out the way behind your bed if you had it forward when its dry
and if it was windy from behind a narrower profile too
Well if it was Deeper than the width I would have preferred it
as then you would then have the option of having your bed right back with the front off giving you more protection if it rained or nice storage out the way behind your bed if you had it forward when its dry
and if it was windy from behind a narrower profile too
In reply to Post #441
without the Skull cap the Quest version is a cross between the Tempest, Hide with a Titan peak. Front is also detachable......
Size of 280W / 220D / 150H Looks spot on to me and the standard W / D for most 1 man bivvies nowadays....
Alos, They are hoping to price it around the £299 mark.......
without the Skull cap the Quest version is a cross between the Tempest, Hide with a Titan peak. Front is also detachable......
Size of 280W / 220D / 150H Looks spot on to me and the standard W / D for most 1 man bivvies nowadays....
Alos, They are hoping to price it around the £299 mark.......
In reply to Post #445
"without the Skull cap the Quest version is a cross between the Tempest, Hide with a Titan peak. Front is also detachable"
Cobblers It's a JRC Bloxx, I love mine, perhaps it will come back into fashion. I've always said despite the quoted dimensions, my Bloxx Compact always feels roomy enough and I never catch my head on the top (i'm 6 foot).
"without the Skull cap the Quest version is a cross between the Tempest, Hide with a Titan peak. Front is also detachable"
Cobblers
It's a JRC Bloxx, I love mine, perhaps it will come back into fashion. I've always said despite the quoted dimensions, my Bloxx Compact always feels roomy enough and I never catch my head on the top (i'm 6 foot).
In reply to Post #446
Great design that. I'm amazed it never really took off. That shape but with a tempest/pioneer block arrangement would be perfect.
Great design that. I'm amazed it never really took off. That shape but with a tempest/pioneer block arrangement would be perfect.
In reply to Post #447
They were twice the weight of their alternatives which didn't do them any favours imo.
They were twice the weight of their alternatives which didn't do them any favours imo.
In reply to Post #446
That Bloxx has to many angles on the poles, No rear vents, no height so deffo more aligned to my description...... 
That Bloxx has to many angles on the poles, No rear vents, no height so deffo more aligned to my description......
In reply to Post #448
Sounds odd that, the two bivvies I own are the Bloxx Compact + wrap and a V2 Brolly with groundsheet, front, skull cap and utility front. I don't notice the bulk of the JRC against the Trakker to be honest, and truth be known I can have the JRC up just as quick. Even the wrap, because I use awning loops on the pegging points, just throws over and attaches to the main bivvy pegging points with about 4 pegs needed at the front. Literally takes seconds, quicker than putting a skull cap on (I don't leave mine on). I will admit the Trakker is easier to fold down though but not by much. I think the Quest shelter looks great and the price is good!
Sounds odd that, the two bivvies I own are the Bloxx Compact + wrap and a V2 Brolly with groundsheet, front, skull cap and utility front. I don't notice the bulk of the JRC against the Trakker to be honest, and truth be known I can have the JRC up just as quick. Even the wrap, because I use awning loops on the pegging points, just throws over and attaches to the main bivvy pegging points with about 4 pegs needed at the front. Literally takes seconds, quicker than putting a skull cap on (I don't leave mine on). I will admit the Trakker is easier to fold down though but not by much. I think the Quest shelter looks great and the price is good!
In reply to Post #449
No rear vents?
The overwrap doesn't, but if i'm using a wrap then chances are I aren't bothered about having vents open
No rear vents?
The overwrap doesn't, but if i'm using a wrap then chances are I aren't bothered about having vents open
In reply to Post #451
oh yeah.......
Bloody ugly being that shape though........
oh yeah.......
Bloody ugly being that shape though........
In reply to Post #445
The Trakker Tempest 100 T is very slightly deeper and this is how the Specs are displayed Dimensions: Approx 150H x 235D x 250W cm.
my bed is only 200cm so for my needs these are far better ....................but I must say the price of the Quest offering is very significant
The Trakker Tempest 100 T is very slightly deeper and this is how the Specs are displayed Dimensions: Approx 150H x 235D x 250W cm.
my bed is only 200cm so for my needs these are far better ....................but I must say the price of the Quest offering is very significant
Just seen a post by Advanta on FB showing a DPM tempest block, not sure if it's there version or a DPM tracker version but says it's coming in March.......
In reply to Post #454
Definitely a Trakker shelter.
Definitely a Trakker shelter.
Yes it's on angling direct twitter page.
100% a tempest on angling directs twitter page has a picture of a camo tempest with the trakker logo underneath saying “we didn't see that coming”
In reply to Post #457
Has anyone ordered one of these cyprinus bivvies yet and have you received them. I'm struggling to find reviews on them apart from the guy that works for them on YouTube.
Has anyone ordered one of these cyprinus bivvies yet and have you received them. I'm struggling to find reviews on them apart from the guy that works for them on YouTube.
In reply to Post #458
Yea I'm interested to hear about people's reviews on the typhoon as well. Can't really go off that YouTube review it was a shocker
Yea I'm interested to hear about people's reviews on the typhoon as well. Can't really go off that YouTube review it was a shocker
In reply to Post #458
There has been a few people selling them on Facebook from what I've noticed “been used once or twice”
My mate likes his although he had a problem with the centre bit coming loose which he fixed himself then a problem with one of the poles but cyprinus did replace it for him free of charge so it's all ok now.
He likes his tbh from what I've seen from it I don't think it would make me sell anything I got and buy one but if you needed a new bivvy then yeah it would be a good choice
There has been a few people selling them on Facebook from what I've noticed “been used once or twice”
My mate likes his although he had a problem with the centre bit coming loose which he fixed himself then a problem with one of the poles but cyprinus did replace it for him free of charge so it's all ok now.
He likes his tbh from what I've seen from it I don't think it would make me sell anything I got and buy one but if you needed a new bivvy then yeah it would be a good choice
In reply to Post #460
The zip in groundsheet appeals to me, might look at selling my tempest air v2 soon and replace it with the typhoon
The zip in groundsheet appeals to me, might look at selling my tempest air v2 soon and replace it with the typhoon
In reply to Post #461
Ash have you seen the bigger and taller Quest bivvy thats about to hit the market that has a zip in groundsheet
and the stormpoles and front all included and its a lot cheaper worth checking out if you havent already ? Quest Outer Block Bivvy
facebook LINKY POO
Ash have you seen the bigger and taller Quest bivvy thats about to hit the market that has a zip in groundsheet
and the stormpoles and front all included and its a lot cheaper worth checking out if you havent already ? Quest Outer Block Bivvy
facebook LINKY POO
In reply to Post #462
A little hard to tell, but looks similar to the Titan TC Pro by the way it went up.
A little hard to tell, but looks similar to the Titan TC Pro by the way it went up.
In reply to Post #462
Looks great that mate, I think that's the new favourite for my next purchase
Looks great that mate, I think that's the new favourite for my next purchase
In reply to Post #464
Well I decided to buy a typhoon it should be here next week apparently. I will do little review of once it arrives.
Well I decided to buy a typhoon it should be here next week apparently. I will do little review of once it arrives.
I have been banned from the Cyprinus FB page after saying they were taking the piss with price and that Quest has a similar product for £100 cheaper......
No more recommending there **** from me.......
No more recommending there **** from me.......
In reply to Post #466
Bit harsh lol.
Bit harsh lol.
In reply to Post #466
Lol. They just banned their entire marketing department.
Lol. They just banned their entire marketing department.
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In reply to Post #463
Exactly like all titan's
For the money excellent but I do think Nash has got the T1/2's spot on despite the massive price difference.
Exactly like all titan's
For the money excellent but I do think Nash has got the T1/2's spot on despite the massive price difference.
Cyprinus must be pig sick over the release of the Quest version which looks better all round. Cyprinus now know how Trakker felt when they under cut them. What goes around comes around.
In reply to Post #472
Probably turn out Quest are owned by Trakker
Probably turn out Quest are owned by Trakker
In reply to Post #474
now that would be a genius move if they did
now that would be a genius move if they did
Looking to get a new bivvy. Love the look of the Tempest and I'm not too tall to sit in it but it's a lot of cash. Typhoon looks almost identicle. I do like zip in groundsheet, controversial i know!
Has anyone had a change to test out the Typhoon. On the face of it, looks bob on a match to the TT 100 advanced but much cheaper.
Is it the same colour as the Tempest? Getting a Tempest bivvy and Cyprinus skull cap could look pretty odd otherwise
Has anyone had a change to test out the Typhoon. On the face of it, looks bob on a match to the TT 100 advanced but much cheaper.
Is it the same colour as the Tempest? Getting a Tempest bivvy and Cyprinus skull cap could look pretty odd otherwise
In reply to Post #476
Mines getting delivered tomorrow which is a pain as I'm off fishing first thing tomorrow morning until sunday afternoon so wont be in to receive it.
Mines getting delivered tomorrow which is a pain as I'm off fishing first thing tomorrow morning until sunday afternoon so wont be in to receive it.
In reply to Post #477
I was going to get a zip in ground sheet brolly/bibby. But tried one out and couldn't get on with it.
Either clip in or velcro for me.
I was going to get a zip in ground sheet brolly/bibby. But tried one out and couldn't get on with it.
Either clip in or velcro for me.
In reply to Post #462
Just looked for curiosity Gerry, it's the original JRC Blox
Just looked for curiosity Gerry, it's the original JRC Blox
In reply to Post #479
yes very similar mate but with a zip in groundsheet and 150cm height
yes very similar mate but with a zip in groundsheet and 150cm height
Well I'm guessing the quality control on these haven't been the best, a very good freind has had to send 2 back now. First one due to the main mechanism falling apart and now the pegging elastics around the bottom 3 have come away from the bivvy over the weekend, I seen it with my own eyes none of them were done that tight either but as soon as any tension went into them they ping off
In reply to Post #481
Hopefully, for everyone that's got one, it's not a recurring problem
I can't remember a product being recommended as much without even seeing one as this new generation of copies. Was always the reason people came to the tackle section, unbiased USER feedback
Hopefully, for everyone that's got one, it's not a recurring problem
I can't remember a product being recommended as much without even seeing one as this new generation of copies. Was always the reason people came to the tackle section, unbiased USER feedback
In reply to Post #481
I used mine for the first time over the weekend and and it was great and held firm in 50mph plus winds and I had pegged down tight. The block seems well made I may take the bolts a out and thread lock them as a precaution those nyloc nuts always come loose. I've had them come loose and fall out my tempest brolly and my composite but like said a little bit of thread lock and they have been fine since.
I used mine for the first time over the weekend and and it was great and held firm in 50mph plus winds and I had pegged down tight. The block seems well made I may take the bolts a out and thread lock them as a precaution those nyloc nuts always come loose. I've had them come loose and fall out my tempest brolly and my composite but like said a little bit of thread lock and they have been fine since.
In reply to Post #483
Just heard they are bringing out a taller version soon.. theres my next xmas present! Hsha
Just heard they are bringing out a taller version soon.. theres my next xmas present! Hsha
In reply to Post #484
Would you not consider the Quest version which is higher and better design (on paper)?
Would you not consider the Quest version which is higher and better design (on paper)?
In reply to Post #485
I'll have a look , depends on material I like the thick breathable stuff
I'll have a look , depends on material I like the thick breathable stuff
In reply to Post #484
And a Typhoon Hybrid. Mix of camo and green. I find it amazing that all these companies release something and within weeks bring out other versions of it. Bet the early adopters are really pissed off they didn't have the options, I would be
And a Typhoon Hybrid. Mix of camo and green. I find it amazing that all these companies release something and within weeks bring out other versions of it. Bet the early adopters are really pissed off they didn't have the options, I would be
In reply to Post #486
The DPM material is the same spec
The DPM material is the same spec
In reply to Post #487
Im still guessing this new version the front is still inbuilt?.
Wonder why they didn't design this with a removable front , im sure they would of sold a **** load more if they did.
Im still guessing this new version the front is still inbuilt?.
Wonder why they didn't design this with a removable front , im sure they would of sold a **** load more if they did.
In reply to Post #488
Its not, its 10hh not 20hh you can see it looks thinner.. looks decent though
Its not, its 10hh not 20hh you can see it looks thinner.. looks decent though
In reply to Post #490
the green is 10,000 but the Camo is 20,000 mate
the green is 10,000 but the Camo is 20,000 mate
In reply to Post #491
Are quest doing a camo one at 20k then?
Are quest doing a camo one at 20k then?
In reply to Post #492
Yes they are
Yes they are
In reply to Post #492
yes and nice to see a father and son family business challenging the big boys at brilliant prices
here is a video LINKY POO 
yes and nice to see a father and son family business challenging the big boys at brilliant prices
here is a video LINKY POO
In reply to Post #494
Lots of nice design touches there. No mention of weight though and it would be nice to see what ones like to set up. Have they announced a price yet?
I'd be slightly concerned the green version material might be a bit thin, but I'm guessing it's quite a bit lighter than the Dpm version.
Lots of nice design touches there. No mention of weight though and it would be nice to see what ones like to set up. Have they announced a price yet?
I'd be slightly concerned the green version material might be a bit thin, but I'm guessing it's quite a bit lighter than the Dpm version.
In reply to Post #495
Theres a set up vid on the fb page
Theres a set up vid on the fb page
In reply to Post #496
That'll be why I haven't seen it then. I don't have Facebook.
That'll be why I haven't seen it then. I don't have Facebook.
In reply to Post #497
Nor me but you can still view the video
Nor me but you can still view the video
Quest one does look good but I don't like the way the front goes so far back into the roof of the bivvy! It's basically under the block looking at the videos....... 
In reply to Post #495
11kg is mentioned in the comments on FB.
11kg is mentioned in the comments on FB.
In reply to Post #494
That does look good actually especially for the money.. only thing that puts me off is the 12 week waiting time lol
That does look good actually especially for the money.. only thing that puts me off is the 12 week waiting time lol
In reply to Post #501
That waiting time will only get worse with current situation in China....
That waiting time will only get worse with current situation in China....
In reply to Post #502
Why what's going on in China?
Why what's going on in China?
In reply to Post #503
coronavirus cases & knock on effect perhaps slowing up the supply/production ?
coronavirus cases & knock on effect perhaps slowing up the supply/production ?
In reply to Post #504
Anything coming from there will be delay. Factory's haven't had the normal numbers of staff for over month due to the virus.
Anything coming from there will be delay. Factory's haven't had the normal numbers of staff for over month due to the virus.
What's coronavirus?
In reply to Post #506
Some bug that's being whored around by the media like the great plague...... 
Some bug that's being whored around by the media like the great plague......
In reply to Post #507
Ooops I bought one with skull cap couldn't resist any longer or wait for the taller one lol
Ooops I bought one with skull cap couldn't resist any longer or wait for the taller one lol
In reply to Post #508
Well look at it this way, if you've got to quarantine yourself for fourteen days, you might as well do it on the bank in comfort
Well look at it this way, if you've got to quarantine yourself for fourteen days, you might as well do it on the bank in comfort
In reply to Post #509
That's spot on that! I'll just go swing that one by the missus I'm sure she'll have a good laugh at that lol😂
That's spot on that! I'll just go swing that one by the missus I'm sure she'll have a good laugh at that lol😂
In reply to Post #509
That is a very good point,I feel better now about spending the money
That is a very good point,I feel better now about spending the money
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