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The news (3,123 posts / 87,816 views)
Tinhead Tinhead
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#1456 11 Dec 2020 16:19
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Great news I think we can all agree with that
noj
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#1457 11 Dec 2020 16:20
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1984 is the closest reflection of reality we have sadly.
Wayne Wayne
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#1458 11 Dec 2020 16:23
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Yep.......although Boris should be knighted for his services to this country........
ocelot ocelot
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#1459 11 Dec 2020 18:26
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You quote 97 then stumble and jump into 2003.You do know there was around 50 sovereign nations armed forces involved in Iraq 2003-2011 don't you. Including Australia, New Zealand, Holland, Poland, South Korea, Italy etc etc.
mal mal
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#1460 11 Dec 2020 18:59
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spanker spanker
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#1461 11 Dec 2020 23:26
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Yes , we are on a slippery slope , mostly going under the radar !
noj
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#1462 12 Dec 2020 09:45
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If you are so informed on the nationwide corruption and obviously have so many better ideas... why not dip your toe into the pool of politics yourself?







Then you will have less time to spout ******** on here
Tinhead Tinhead
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#1463 12 Dec 2020 10:07
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Hear! hear!
Although to be honest I switched off a while back.

No malice intended, goodwill to all men especially in such a difficult year
Wayne Wayne
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#1464 12 Dec 2020 11:22
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You quote 97 then stumble and jump into 2003

no stumbling Notalot and shows you dont knowalot neither, It was a 6 year **** show, then continued further in the middle east........plenty of countries dragged into it on promise of finding WMD yet all they found was oil and gold.....similar to poor old Libya and Syria........

Spanky knows all the crimes committed by Government yet no evidence to show........Sure thats what they call a conspiracy........
spanker spanker
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#1465 12 Dec 2020 13:11
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Someone has to keep you lot informed !

I watched Corbyn being smeared mercilessly as soon as he became opposition leader , if you want to benefit the masses at the expense of those with influence and power it's going to be tough and after the scare that they had with Corbyn they are taking measures to ensure that it does not happen again ,
noj
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#1466 12 Dec 2020 13:23
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Yes if you want to benefit the masses of Islington it will be tough.
He didn't have real core labour values deep down, hence the internal split.
I stand by the suggestion you should get involved, labour are screaming out for.. well.. people that have actually had a job.
I should technically be a labour voter but I can't bring myself to do it
spanker spanker
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#1467 12 Dec 2020 13:57
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Our system now is broken , if you don't tow the line , as in suck up to corporate power , which will entitle you to positive press and media coverage , you will get nowhere , it's a miracle that Corbyn got within a few thousand votes of winning in 2017 , the press and media have been so corrupted now , a process that has been going on for decades which is becoming unsustainable hopefully , but the void that is left , as the trust in government and media plummets has been filled by all sorts of idiots . Wayne eagerly confirms this on a daily basis , thank's Wayne !
The chances of electing anyone as our PM who wants what is best for the masses is over now , it's become a gang rape of the countries and tax payers assets where an honest politician is no longer welcome in the inner circle of the PM ! they do it in plain sight now !
spanker spanker
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#1468 12 Dec 2020 14:08
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Going unreported at the moment , unsurprisingly , is the war between the left and right in the Labour party , up and down the country , local Labour party's are returning votes of "no confidence " in Starmer ,as he tries to purge the party of anyone with "left wing " ideology , aligned with Corbyn's , having an opposition party who are searching for backing , not from the unions but from the corporations will never end well for the employed masses !



noj
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#1469 12 Dec 2020 14:58
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I misread the first line, was about to say I've sucked up sufficient powder for the entire nation
Thing is we don't produce much of note anymore, the unions supposedly defend what workers we have and the benefit system is a mess. Which is making labour more and more obsolete and forcing them down the corporate route just to stay afloat. So the opposition can only really oppose for oppositions sake to stay relevant.
A coalition would be the ideal situation with ministers experienced in their relevant fields and with a desire to actually represent the people rather than themselves or their boss.
mal mal
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#1470 12 Dec 2020 15:24
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I'm inclined to agree.

When there are companies with greater financial power than countries then political integrity goes out of the window. Although that doesn't mean we shouldn't hold the feckers to account.

Ministers experienced in their area of responsibility would be a very welcome change speaking from experience in the education system. ...
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