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Stokebloke Stokebloke
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#1321 14 Nov 2020 21:21
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I know the video was from my article. The question was do we trust them given their history with vaccines? We need one that's for sure but is it right to push one through without all the rigorous testing that is normally required? It's a big call that someone has got to make. Would I take take it? As I am in an at risk group I would have to. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it though.
spanker spanker
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#1322 15 Nov 2020 10:14
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So , Labour , under Starmer want to censor msm to stop conspiracy theorists and the negative impact on the covid vaccine .
The real problem is , tackling the lack of trust between us and them , or , the system, all the anti vaxxers and the conspiracy theorists pumping shi* out daily would fade away if we could trust those that inform us !
ocelot ocelot
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#1323 15 Nov 2020 11:07
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Given their history with vaccines?
Pfizer I'd imagine manufacture hundreds of different vaccines and medicines every day, used by 100's of millions. BioNtec have been doing what they do successfully and growing for years also.
When you say without the usual rigorous testing, I presume you mean the length of time comparable vaccines take to gain a license. Mate, this virus is a global pandemic, the kitchen sinks been thrown at it by government's, scientists and clinicians. Not like any other vaccine situation in history. The way I understand it to shorten the usual time frame, instead of a linear process all aspects of the vaccine development/testing have been "stacked". Meaning all parts of the process are started simultaneously in parallel. Obviously shortening the licensing timeframe.
Add into that, the trials are not being run on the whole age range of populations, children aren't part of the trials. Again you shorten the timeframe without compromising your "rigorous" testing.
The only thing they won't know is longevity of the vaccine for obvious reasons, but powerful modelling will give a probable answer.
Not many people are comfortable with being injected with anything, seems you've already made your mind up
spanker spanker
Posts: 1,446
#1324 15 Nov 2020 22:04
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The leaders of China and another 14 countries in the Asia-Pacific region have signed one of the biggest free trade deals in history, covering 2.2 billion people and 30% of the world's economic output.

called the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP)

Australia, Japan, New Zealand and South Korea signed the deal, alongside members of the 10-nation Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean), including Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand.

Not to worry , we have Boris at the helm to guide us through these troubled times and Brexit will undoubtedly "make Britain great again " we're fu**ed !
noj
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#1325 16 Nov 2020 05:18
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What and Boris can't get the country relocated to south east Asia or Oceania to improve the climate and join this free trade deal?
What a failure
scozza
Posts: 18,420
#1326 16 Nov 2020 06:08
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That's pretty ****

He's self isolating again now by the sounds of it
noj
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#1327 16 Nov 2020 06:42
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That's bull****. Carrie has just taken away his tablet and said he can't go out to play for 2 weeks
spanker spanker
Posts: 1,446
#1328 16 Nov 2020 07:19
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After witnessing the handling of covid and the corruption surrounding it , i have come to the conclusion that "we're fu**ed !
scozza
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#1329 16 Nov 2020 07:58
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In reply to Post #1328
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, and relax
Tinhead Tinhead
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#1330 16 Nov 2020 08:26
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Not time to relax Scoz we should all be busy resetting capitalism.
scozza
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#1331 16 Nov 2020 18:33
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Panorama tonight, can Biden unite America, who gives a ****

We were discussing this today lol

So what did Trump do, first President in around 50 years not to go to war

Went and saw the rocket man and told him to sort it out for the sake of world peace

Slapped 25% import tax on and ****ed over a load of companies and countrys

Divided a nations opinions, guess that's where he got it wrong
spanker spanker
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#1332 16 Nov 2020 18:35
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Not so keen on Piers Morgan , but it was refreshing to see him rip apart our health secretary Mr wan*sock this morning ,it will probably be another 200 days before another Tory ventures near justified scrutiny again !

Am i wrong regarding how corrupt our system is , have some people been sleeping , if you can't see it now it's because you don't want to , or don't want to admit it , sad really ,say alert !

spanker spanker
Posts: 1,446
#1333 16 Nov 2020 18:40
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Lockdown Chaos , channel 4 ,tonight , how the government lost control , bollo**s to America they are beyond yelp ,
mal mal
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#1334 16 Nov 2020 22:24
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In reply to Post #1331
He did have a bit of previous when it came to 'not going to war ' so no surprise there really. ....




In other news. ...

Most people in self isolation just eat a load of crisps while watching Netflix in their underpants. .. not boris. .... too much time on his big buffoon hands so he decides to piss off the Scots and kill off any chance of the tories getting any votes north of Carlisle ever again...
mal mal
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#1335 17 Nov 2020 22:56
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...and just a day after boris' latest blunder ... labour seize the opportunity by reinstating Corbyn. ...



Bunch of tools.

I'm telling you all. Vote green. Let's get rid of all the feckers and save the planet.

Peace and love
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