In reply to Post #92
I received an email from angling lines who are writing to their clients with what they know.
They have contacted UK bait companies and one mentioned that by including their export health certificate in the wording of on its bait packaging it would be compliant. They were hopeful this would satisfy the EU requirements. I am hoping the main bait companies will work on this to help their customers and keep their offshore sales going.
I received an email from angling lines who are writing to their clients with what they know.
They have contacted UK bait companies and one mentioned that by including their export health certificate in the wording of on its bait packaging it would be compliant. They were hopeful this would satisfy the EU requirements. I am hoping the main bait companies will work on this to help their customers and keep their offshore sales going.
In reply to Post #95
That is totally inaccurate advice. You can't include an Export Health Certificate in product packaging. It is an official document, signed and stamped on every page by a DEFRA Vet, and the original hard copy has to travel with the goods for inspection by the EU customs officials. Angling Lines have it horribly wrong I'm afraid.
That is totally inaccurate advice. You can't include an Export Health Certificate in product packaging. It is an official document, signed and stamped on every page by a DEFRA Vet, and the original hard copy has to travel with the goods for inspection by the EU customs officials. Angling Lines have it horribly wrong I'm afraid.
In reply to Post #96
This is an Export Health Certificate
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f6a1902d3bf7f7239aa147b/Specimen-8333_English_V1.pdf
This is an Export Health Certificate
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5f6a1902d3bf7f7239aa147b/Specimen-8333_English_V1.pdf
In reply to Post #88
Shingoose's advice is again completely correct.
Shingoose's advice is again completely correct.
In reply to Post #90
Sorry BRB, I worded my post badly. Yes these rules have existed for a long time but only now apply to the UK as we have left the EU - there have been many people.claiming that the rules have existed for travelers from the UK for years which is untrue and stems from limits that were temporarily put in place during the foot and mouth outbreak.
Sorry BRB, I worded my post badly. Yes these rules have existed for a long time but only now apply to the UK as we have left the EU - there have been many people.claiming that the rules have existed for travelers from the UK for years which is untrue and stems from limits that were temporarily put in place during the foot and mouth outbreak.
In reply to Post #99
From what I gather the big companies are unable to export at the moment as there is (currently) no export document which covers them. The checks and procedures that will apply to the bait seem to be a bit of an unknown, as are what customs clearance fees and duties it might attract. I dont think that it will be crippling however, the paperwork required is likely to be the difficulty in exporting rather than the cost.
It seems nobody really knows whats going to happen. One thing for sure, its going to be a lot more complicated than just acquiring an EORI number.
From what I gather the big companies are unable to export at the moment as there is (currently) no export document which covers them. The checks and procedures that will apply to the bait seem to be a bit of an unknown, as are what customs clearance fees and duties it might attract. I dont think that it will be crippling however, the paperwork required is likely to be the difficulty in exporting rather than the cost.
It seems nobody really knows whats going to happen. One thing for sure, its going to be a lot more complicated than just acquiring an EORI number.
So I'll ask the question again :
What did the non EU based teams of anglers at the World Carp Classic etc do in regards to their baits used in the competition? Would be quite useful to know..
What did the non EU based teams of anglers at the World Carp Classic etc do in regards to their baits used in the competition? Would be quite useful to know..
In reply to Post #101
I wouldn't know, but I assume they sourced them in the EU. Would be interested to know otherwise.
I wouldn't know, but I assume they sourced them in the EU. Would be interested to know otherwise.
I can't see what everyone is getting flustered about , their rules and all that .
Supermarket near venue stock up sorted .
Sort out some maize and get soaking sorted .
If venues won't let you use particle fish the rivers as that's where a lot of the stock in muddy puddles came from anyway .
Still the up side is no more of these # posts these caught on this bait that bait scenario .
All chill out it will all get sorted in the future 🤔
Supermarket near venue stock up sorted .
Sort out some maize and get soaking sorted .
If venues won't let you use particle fish the rivers as that's where a lot of the stock in muddy puddles came from anyway .
Still the up side is no more of these # posts these caught on this bait that bait scenario .
All chill out it will all get sorted in the future 🤔
In reply to Post #101
An interesting point.
One thing for sure, this won't be the end to British bait being transported over the channel with anglers. We've only been talking about the rules and there is going to be loads of anglers who will risk it and attempt to bring bait - maybe even the majority. Whether the Douane increase checks and how severe the penalties will be for getting caught with 60kg of your favourite boilie nobody knows yet.
I wouldnt want to be the first to risk it as the Douane aren't known for being forgiving.
There seems to still be anglers travelling over here to fish by all accounts despite the ban thats been put on non residents travelling over. There appears to be a 'one rule for us and another rule for everyone else' attitude shared by many carp anglers.
An interesting point.
One thing for sure, this won't be the end to British bait being transported over the channel with anglers. We've only been talking about the rules and there is going to be loads of anglers who will risk it and attempt to bring bait - maybe even the majority. Whether the Douane increase checks and how severe the penalties will be for getting caught with 60kg of your favourite boilie nobody knows yet.
I wouldnt want to be the first to risk it as the Douane aren't known for being forgiving.
There seems to still be anglers travelling over here to fish by all accounts despite the ban thats been put on non residents travelling over. There appears to be a 'one rule for us and another rule for everyone else' attitude shared by many carp anglers.
In reply to Post #103
simply put
I dont want to use a boillie thats not of my choice
I will not get mugged off with stupid bait prices of £10 per kg +
simply put
I dont want to use a boillie thats not of my choice
I will not get mugged off with stupid bait prices of £10 per kg +
In reply to Post #105
I don't understand the relevance.
You will have 4 choices.
Buy bait supplied by the lake.
Buy bait in Europe
Risk it and take it through the border
Decide to stop coming to Europe to fish (or any other country outside Europe for that matter, many have even stricter rules).
Weve been supplying a tweeked ABS bait for the last couple of years, we sold it for about £1 more per kg than you could buy it direct from ABS.
Some lakes take the piss, they're in the minority, most of us are just trying to run an honest business.
Prices are likely to go up everywhere after this year though, the cost of getting British bait out here is likely to go up anyway.
I don't understand the relevance.
You will have 4 choices.
Buy bait supplied by the lake.
Buy bait in Europe
Risk it and take it through the border
Decide to stop coming to Europe to fish (or any other country outside Europe for that matter, many have even stricter rules).
Weve been supplying a tweeked ABS bait for the last couple of years, we sold it for about £1 more per kg than you could buy it direct from ABS.
Some lakes take the piss, they're in the minority, most of us are just trying to run an honest business.
Prices are likely to go up everywhere after this year though, the cost of getting British bait out here is likely to go up anyway.
In reply to Post #106
Jimmy; do you have a plan for the future with ABS regarding continuation of supply?
Jimmy; do you have a plan for the future with ABS regarding continuation of supply?
In reply to Post #107
According to a couple of the large bait firms, currently nobody can export bait, from what I've heard there isn't a suitable export document available yet. We're also in a situation where we don't know when we will reopen again so investing in stock is out of the question at the moment - I was intending to contact ABS at the end of the month to find out if they plan on exporting, everything has been so up in the air I thought it best to give them a few weeks to get to grips with the situation before asking.
Id like to be in the position where we can offer both a French made bait and a well known UK made bait, or a choice of two French baits if importing from the UK isn't viable. Long-term we'd like to roll out own but that will require quite a large investment.
According to a couple of the large bait firms, currently nobody can export bait, from what I've heard there isn't a suitable export document available yet. We're also in a situation where we don't know when we will reopen again so investing in stock is out of the question at the moment - I was intending to contact ABS at the end of the month to find out if they plan on exporting, everything has been so up in the air I thought it best to give them a few weeks to get to grips with the situation before asking.
Id like to be in the position where we can offer both a French made bait and a well known UK made bait, or a choice of two French baits if importing from the UK isn't viable. Long-term we'd like to roll out own but that will require quite a large investment.
In reply to Post #108
What is your fishery Jimmy?
I'd imagine just holding off doing anything for now as EU/UK export is a complete disaster area right now and will most likely continue to be for a while. It may well become viable to produce a small range of baits if the demand i.e. UK angler numbers are there still and there is no work around the current regs. Time will tell..
What is your fishery Jimmy?
I'd imagine just holding off doing anything for now as EU/UK export is a complete disaster area right now and will most likely continue to be for a while. It may well become viable to produce a small range of baits if the demand i.e. UK angler numbers are there still and there is no work around the current regs. Time will tell..