In reply to Post #975
Can't speak for HC.......but All news has an agenda or slight spin on it........me personally, I don't bother with any news outlets.......the bigger picture is far more entertaining to consider if it's plausible and a possibility ......
Can't speak for HC.......but All news has an agenda or slight spin on it........me personally, I don't bother with any news outlets.......the bigger picture is far more entertaining to consider if it's plausible and a possibility ......
In reply to Post #976
https://youtu.be/V6plFlk1uTo
George floyd
https://youtu.be/gXixOQQwqug
Antifa
https://youtu.be/yITK_Bm78mI
Blm
https://youtu.be/W_vS5a8H0lE
Trump/fake news
https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E
Ben Shapiro proving bbc lies
https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg
Ben Shapiro proving the majority of Muslims in the world are radical and not moderate according to MSM and Obama/leftists
I can go on and on
But here's one more
https://youtu.be/Q9RGzKZdi8Y
COVID death rates are wrong
Come at me or shut up here's my evidence where is yours?
https://youtu.be/V6plFlk1uTo
George floyd
https://youtu.be/gXixOQQwqug
Antifa
https://youtu.be/yITK_Bm78mI
Blm
https://youtu.be/W_vS5a8H0lE
Trump/fake news
https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E
Ben Shapiro proving bbc lies
https://youtu.be/g7TAAw3oQvg
Ben Shapiro proving the majority of Muslims in the world are radical and not moderate according to MSM and Obama/leftists
I can go on and on
But here's one more
https://youtu.be/Q9RGzKZdi8Y
COVID death rates are wrong
Come at me or shut up here's my evidence where is yours?
In reply to Post #977
Also I'd like to add that most who get there news from MSM take it on face value with no evidence or logic backing up their claims whereas all my sources and media show, explain and discuss the topics, evidence, logic, sources and facts.
We are the MSM you must believe us because why would we lie ?
How many of you have ever researched what you have heard from the MSM ?
Also I'd like to add that most who get there news from MSM take it on face value with no evidence or logic backing up their claims whereas all my sources and media show, explain and discuss the topics, evidence, logic, sources and facts.
We are the MSM you must believe us because why would we lie ?
How many of you have ever researched what you have heard from the MSM ?
In reply to Post #977
Your now about to be told YouTube is an unworthy source full of conspiracies and fake news but MSM is FACTS.......pure unadulterated FACTS.......
Happycarping........ don't lose your head over the next few posts and don't resort to insults...... 
Your now about to be told YouTube is an unworthy source full of conspiracies and fake news but MSM is FACTS.......pure unadulterated FACTS.......
Happycarping........ don't lose your head over the next few posts and don't resort to insults......
In reply to Post #978
Your a bit behind mate , we have discussed , numerous times on this thread and the covid thread everything that you have mentioned , as i said , the majority of people don't trust msm for obvious reasons .
I will have a look at your links
Your a bit behind mate , we have discussed , numerous times on this thread and the covid thread everything that you have mentioned , as i said , the majority of people don't trust msm for obvious reasons .
I will have a look at your links
In reply to Post #980
Ok thanks I'm glad I've met at least two open minded people on here.
Also in these YouTube videos they state sources that you can check so if you were to deny them I'd like to see what exactly they are denying and the reasons why.
Ok thanks I'm glad I've met at least two open minded people on here.
Also in these YouTube videos they state sources that you can check so if you were to deny them I'd like to see what exactly they are denying and the reasons why.
In reply to Post #981
Any chance of a big long list of links to pre-referendum YT clips of David Davis, Farage, Tim Martin etc telling us how we'd get the best deal ever, really fast, no downside, german car industry, 'they need us' etc? They turned out to be spot-on, didn't they?
Any chance of a big long list of links to pre-referendum YT clips of David Davis, Farage, Tim Martin etc telling us how we'd get the best deal ever, really fast, no downside, german car industry, 'they need us' etc? They turned out to be spot-on, didn't they?
In reply to Post #982
I'm sure you can find some, people do tend to record and upload speeches and political events quite often.
I'm sure you can find some, people do tend to record and upload speeches and political events quite often.
In reply to Post #977
Firstly , if you think it's ok for someone to kneel on someones neck whilst they are restrained and wearing handcuffs whilst they die there is no helping you
second video , give idiots guns and they shoot people , America is a failing corrupt empire their corrupt corporate backed media like ours isn't fit for purpose so people are trying to fill the void , you have picked one side as it fits your ideology , which is becoming apparent now !
Steven Crowder , regarding Trump fake news or straight talker , a conservative and Libertarian , fired from Fox news , his bias is obvious !
We all know that Trump has highlighted fake news , i have mentioned it many times , it does not make him honest , just like Boris , they are populist leaders who will spout anything at any time , Bolsonaro (Brazil) and Modi (India ) used the same tactics to win their elections , tell the public anything , just as long as it's what they want to hear and they will vote for you , sound familiar ?
Don't think i need to comment on the bbc lies link , we know !
The last one Crowder again , backing a corporate agenda , i will let you work that one out .
Have a look at some countries that have not been as corrupted as the uk and America , like New Zealand , see how they are getting on
got one for you now , who influences the most people , the ones with the most money , right wing corporate backed feeds like the ones you have listed ,
link.
Firstly , if you think it's ok for someone to kneel on someones neck whilst they are restrained and wearing handcuffs whilst they die there is no helping you
second video , give idiots guns and they shoot people , America is a failing corrupt empire their corrupt corporate backed media like ours isn't fit for purpose so people are trying to fill the void , you have picked one side as it fits your ideology , which is becoming apparent now !
Steven Crowder , regarding Trump fake news or straight talker , a conservative and Libertarian , fired from Fox news , his bias is obvious !
We all know that Trump has highlighted fake news , i have mentioned it many times , it does not make him honest , just like Boris , they are populist leaders who will spout anything at any time , Bolsonaro (Brazil) and Modi (India ) used the same tactics to win their elections , tell the public anything , just as long as it's what they want to hear and they will vote for you , sound familiar ?
Don't think i need to comment on the bbc lies link , we know !
The last one Crowder again , backing a corporate agenda , i will let you work that one out .
Have a look at some countries that have not been as corrupted as the uk and America , like New Zealand , see how they are getting on
got one for you now , who influences the most people , the ones with the most money , right wing corporate backed feeds like the ones you have listed ,
link.
In reply to Post #971
I hope Chariman Mal does not read that. Get ready
I hope Chariman Mal does not read that. Get ready
In reply to Post #985
Evening scozza
You missing me then?
As for happycarperedl.... (where's that sarcasm emoji when we need it?)
I'm very happy you've found YouTube. Are you leaving tiktok behind for, like, ever?
The thing with YouTube- as you know because you do your research - is that it is only very loosely moderated / regulated and any number of agendas, left or right wing, homophobic, racist, sexist, plain lunatic, can be found if you scratch beneath the surface of your 'news'. Wikipedia also lists sources but it doesn't make it entirely accurate or truthful.
You raise a lot of points. Some less misguided than others. Have you researched them all or do you simply believe that your echo chamber of YouTubers have and blindly accept their word in the same way you point to the average MSM viewer?
It does appear that you lay the blame for many of the worlds ills at the door of the MSM which I would argue is unfair. Anyone with intelligence knows that the news is filtered and edited and that varying outlets / newspapers will have a range of political bias. This isn't some big illuminati secret. It's widely known. The BBC isn't responsible for alcoholism, addiction and domestic violence. No more than advertising, endorsements, county lines, poverty, sky sports (I could go on) are anyways...
I have also read about the increase in suicides during lockdown. It's tragic although unfortunately not unexpected. I was very lucky to do some work with Papyrus a couple of years back and they repeatedly publicise the increases around Christmas. They don't lay the blame on the MSM though and I'd be inclined to listen to their expertise on the subject over the likes of Ben Shapiro...
Speaking of... it's as easy to find videos that 'prove' Shapiro wrong as it is to find those of him proving anything. He's a self publicist. That's what YouTubers are. I found some links for you which I'm sure you'll watch with an open mind...
https://youtu.be/iPJBYJTee9A - Notre dame
https://youtu.be/PRF3r3zUGqk - stroppy
https://youtu.be/mSWgyx3eX14 - meh
Took me all of five minutes to find these. I'd imagine someone with a right wing bias could have just as much success searching YouTube ... not that my opposition to the right wing makes me left wing of course (the Shapiro argument so I'm told)
Oh
And black lives? They matter. To everyday people who aren't fooled by the attempted hijacking of a positive ideal.
Peace and love
Evening scozza
You missing me then?
As for happycarperedl.... (where's that sarcasm emoji when we need it?)
I'm very happy you've found YouTube. Are you leaving tiktok behind for, like, ever?
The thing with YouTube- as you know because you do your research - is that it is only very loosely moderated / regulated and any number of agendas, left or right wing, homophobic, racist, sexist, plain lunatic, can be found if you scratch beneath the surface of your 'news'. Wikipedia also lists sources but it doesn't make it entirely accurate or truthful.
You raise a lot of points. Some less misguided than others. Have you researched them all or do you simply believe that your echo chamber of YouTubers have and blindly accept their word in the same way you point to the average MSM viewer?
It does appear that you lay the blame for many of the worlds ills at the door of the MSM which I would argue is unfair. Anyone with intelligence knows that the news is filtered and edited and that varying outlets / newspapers will have a range of political bias. This isn't some big illuminati secret. It's widely known. The BBC isn't responsible for alcoholism, addiction and domestic violence. No more than advertising, endorsements, county lines, poverty, sky sports (I could go on) are anyways...
I have also read about the increase in suicides during lockdown. It's tragic although unfortunately not unexpected. I was very lucky to do some work with Papyrus a couple of years back and they repeatedly publicise the increases around Christmas. They don't lay the blame on the MSM though and I'd be inclined to listen to their expertise on the subject over the likes of Ben Shapiro...
Speaking of... it's as easy to find videos that 'prove' Shapiro wrong as it is to find those of him proving anything. He's a self publicist. That's what YouTubers are. I found some links for you which I'm sure you'll watch with an open mind...
https://youtu.be/iPJBYJTee9A - Notre dame
https://youtu.be/PRF3r3zUGqk - stroppy
https://youtu.be/mSWgyx3eX14 - meh
Took me all of five minutes to find these. I'd imagine someone with a right wing bias could have just as much success searching YouTube ... not that my opposition to the right wing makes me left wing of course (the Shapiro argument so I'm told)
Oh
And black lives? They matter. To everyday people who aren't fooled by the attempted hijacking of a positive ideal.
Peace and love
In reply to Post #977
Do you know what's incredibly ironic. I have a few American Facebook friends that support trump and share a lot of stuff from numerous MAGA and trump supporting pages, and the amount of stuff that has fact check and fake news warnings on it is staggering
Funniest one was a post that was fact checked to be completely fake, that was talking about how trump was a victim of fake news about a specific issue. You couldn't make it up!!
It goes to show the level of brainwashing going on. Moaning about your sacred leader being a victim of fake news, by sharing and posting fake news, and then claiming the fact checkers are also against you, the same ones your sacred leader praises for exposing fake news...
Oh and btw, Ben Shapiro deserves no respect, he refers to himself in third person all the time on his social media posts. Anyone that does that should be irrelevant.
Do you know what's incredibly ironic. I have a few American Facebook friends that support trump and share a lot of stuff from numerous MAGA and trump supporting pages, and the amount of stuff that has fact check and fake news warnings on it is staggering
Funniest one was a post that was fact checked to be completely fake, that was talking about how trump was a victim of fake news about a specific issue. You couldn't make it up!!
It goes to show the level of brainwashing going on. Moaning about your sacred leader being a victim of fake news, by sharing and posting fake news, and then claiming the fact checkers are also against you, the same ones your sacred leader praises for exposing fake news...
Oh and btw, Ben Shapiro deserves no respect, he refers to himself in third person all the time on his social media posts. Anyone that does that should be irrelevant.
So looks like a no deal is looming with the EU.......lets now see How this pans out and if the UK is doomed...... 
In reply to Post #988
I've looked carefully at no deal. I've assessed its consequences... Be in no doubt. That outcome would be a failure of statecraft.
I've looked carefully at no deal. I've assessed its consequences... Be in no doubt. That outcome would be a failure of statecraft.
Well you're playing right into the hands of Monsieur Jonny Forigneur, aren't you?
If you'd both just be quiet for a moment with your defeatist remainer talk, you'd be able to hear the German car industry coming along to point out just how much they need us more than we need them....
Shhhh .....
Listen .....
If you'd both just be quiet for a moment with your defeatist remainer talk, you'd be able to hear the German car industry coming along to point out just how much they need us more than we need them....
Shhhh .....
Listen .....