I Remember Kevin Nash mentioning that Scopex was a Combination of Butter, Cream and Vanilla flavours. 
In reply to Post #68
I have heard the same but going back donkeys years as stated below there was Meant to be black currant in the mix. The Nash scopex was meant to be the same as Rod's but I don't think it was, certainly the thin chemically stuff they sell now is nothing remotely like the old scopex.
I have heard the same but going back donkeys years as stated below there was Meant to be black currant in the mix. The Nash scopex was meant to be the same as Rod's but I don't think it was, certainly the thin chemically stuff they sell now is nothing remotely like the old scopex.
In reply to Post #67
If you really would like to know the exact formulation of flavors, you can. you don't need to to slip someone money.
You can analyse it via chromatography and other techniques.
So, I assume there are companies who done this and made a coy of it.
Maybe some even modified it. But if all chemicals would still be available for use, the flavor was still available
If you really would like to know the exact formulation of flavors, you can. you don't need to to slip someone money.
You can analyse it via chromatography and other techniques.
So, I assume there are companies who done this and made a coy of it.
Maybe some even modified it. But if all chemicals would still be available for use, the flavor was still available
In reply to Post #70
Can't see the current bait companies going to that trouble tbh
Can't see the current bait companies going to that trouble tbh
In reply to Post #71
Think you will find a lot of companies are Analysing the 'the leading companies' boilie make up, and old skool/current flavours on the quiet, to see what all the fuss is about, and how the hype matches to the factual make up.
Trouble is, that due to EU regulations, a lot of the original ingredients to make up these killer blends are no longer available, Regardless of what they tell you.
Unless someone is sitting on a joblot somewhere in a warehouse.
Think you will find a lot of companies are Analysing the 'the leading companies' boilie make up, and old skool/current flavours on the quiet, to see what all the fuss is about, and how the hype matches to the factual make up.
Trouble is, that due to EU regulations, a lot of the original ingredients to make up these killer blends are no longer available, Regardless of what they tell you.
Unless someone is sitting on a joblot somewhere in a warehouse.
In reply to Post #72
Was that a Freudian slip on the use of "killer blends".?
Was that a Freudian slip on the use of "killer blends".?
In reply to Post #73
No It wasn't
RH classics like Scopex, Monster crab, Shellfish Sense Appeal, Pukka Salmon, Chocalate Malt, Mulberry Florentine, Autumn Harvest, etc, etc, these 'changed' over the years due to ingredients no longer available, suppliers changed, EU regulations stopping you use certain things.
Nowadays my choice would be one of John Bakers close flavours like Toppex or Milky1, or Nash's version.
No It wasn't
RH classics like Scopex, Monster crab, Shellfish Sense Appeal, Pukka Salmon, Chocalate Malt, Mulberry Florentine, Autumn Harvest, etc, etc, these 'changed' over the years due to ingredients no longer available, suppliers changed, EU regulations stopping you use certain things.
Nowadays my choice would be one of John Bakers close flavours like Toppex or Milky1, or Nash's version.
In reply to Post #74
Spot on mate.
Spot on mate.
In reply to Post #66
To be even clearer (and I've mentioned this more than a few times!) it was in fact John Baker who discovered the scopex blend and then passed it over to Hutchy one drunken night at the lakeside. I know this for a fact as me and John had a detailed phone conversation about scopex. He told me that he knew an old chemist who mixed up the formula but it didn't smell like scopex until one drop of a certain liquid (which I don't know) was added and then left over night. It was only then that it would have the very distinctive scopex flavour that we all know and love.
We have John to thank for some of the best flavours that were around including scopex, chocolate malt, monster crab, salmon etc.
To be even clearer (and I've mentioned this more than a few times!) it was in fact John Baker who discovered the scopex blend and then passed it over to Hutchy one drunken night at the lakeside. I know this for a fact as me and John had a detailed phone conversation about scopex. He told me that he knew an old chemist who mixed up the formula but it didn't smell like scopex until one drop of a certain liquid (which I don't know) was added and then left over night. It was only then that it would have the very distinctive scopex flavour that we all know and love.
We have John to thank for some of the best flavours that were around including scopex, chocolate malt, monster crab, salmon etc.
In reply to Post #76
If that is true, do you think John Baker will bring out the 'original scopex' or do you think there is some business agreement preventing him doing so ?
The other thing is... are those key liquids & drops no longer available to source, even for JB ?
If that is true, do you think John Baker will bring out the 'original scopex' or do you think there is some business agreement preventing him doing so ?
The other thing is... are those key liquids & drops no longer available to source, even for JB ?
In reply to Post #74
Shame Rod is still not here
Shame Rod is still not here
In reply to Post #76
Fair play mate, straight from the horses mouth. I always thought it was pukka salmon that John gave to Rod.
Fair play mate, straight from the horses mouth. I always thought it was pukka salmon that John gave to Rod.
In reply to Post #77
Well he already does TM1 which is a very scopex like flavour. Apparently Kenny gates has the original scopex and uses it in his bait range.
Well he already does TM1 which is a very scopex like flavour. Apparently Kenny gates has the original scopex and uses it in his bait range.
In reply to Post #76
Would that drop of something be Diacetyl I wonder?
Would that drop of something be Diacetyl I wonder?
BAF Have released one recently. They've admitted it's not the same but close