In reply to Post #644
How many terrorist attackers have entered the uk thanks to EU freedom of movement regulations Wayne?
It's a genuine question.
How many terrorist attackers have entered the uk thanks to EU freedom of movement regulations Wayne?
It's a genuine question.
In reply to Post #645
I find myself in agreement
Awful prime minister and a lying git.
As for the knifeman we'll get told what suits I expect.
I find myself in agreement
Awful prime minister and a lying git.
As for the knifeman we'll get told what suits I expect.
In reply to Post #647
Unpopular statement coming, I might need your tinhat blankalot!
Libyan national kills 3 in reading...UK forces kill thousands of innocent civilians in Libya 2011 by firing missiles whilst trying to remove Gaddafi. This terror attack for all we know could be revenge for blowing his family to tiny little bits one day in 2011.
Not condoning or defending his actions but maybe a tiny bit of perspective needed...
we quickly forget our history of murder in other countries don't we. (Goes back to the education thing we talked about regarding the REAL British history being taught to children doesn't it)
Unpopular statement coming, I might need your tinhat blankalot!
Libyan national kills 3 in reading...UK forces kill thousands of innocent civilians in Libya 2011 by firing missiles whilst trying to remove Gaddafi. This terror attack for all we know could be revenge for blowing his family to tiny little bits one day in 2011.
Not condoning or defending his actions but maybe a tiny bit of perspective needed...
we quickly forget our history of murder in other countries don't we. (Goes back to the education thing we talked about regarding the REAL British history being taught to children doesn't it)
In reply to Post #646
That is a very good post Jon, same as the rest of the EU, I dread to think
That is a very good post Jon, same as the rest of the EU, I dread to think
In reply to Post #648
Murder?
You reap what you sow doesn't need to be on a school curriculum. It's a fact and is happening every day. What does is the reason this country does what it does outside of our shores. Democracy is something we've gone to war for many times and will do in the future. Teach that.
Murder?
You reap what you sow doesn't need to be on a school curriculum. It's a fact and is happening every day. What does is the reason this country does what it does outside of our shores. Democracy is something we've gone to war for many times and will do in the future. Teach that.
In reply to Post #646
I don't know the numbers but the freedom of movement allows migrants to move freely through Europe and many head to France, then then try to make the crossing to the UK claiming asylum, some of them will not be true asylum seekers and some will be bad people.
Without freedom of movement they'd have to claim asylum in the country that they land.
I don't know the numbers but the freedom of movement allows migrants to move freely through Europe and many head to France, then then try to make the crossing to the UK claiming asylum, some of them will not be true asylum seekers and some will be bad people.
Without freedom of movement they'd have to claim asylum in the country that they land.
In reply to Post #650
India and Africa for a start including the despicable concentration camps and mass murders... Middle East conflicts and the truth behind them including the reports that basically say most if it was based on unfounded information... teach the kids the truth.
Going to war for “democracy”... Libya was based on wrong information. The governments own report said that. WMDs never found in Iraq...Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Queda and ended up staying to ‘reconstruct' because they blew the place to buggery...
India and Africa for a start including the despicable concentration camps and mass murders... Middle East conflicts and the truth behind them including the reports that basically say most if it was based on unfounded information... teach the kids the truth.
Going to war for “democracy”... Libya was based on wrong information. The governments own report said that. WMDs never found in Iraq...Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Queda and ended up staying to ‘reconstruct' because they blew the place to buggery...
In reply to Post #651
Not a direct reply to you tinhead, but just for balance sake, asylum seeker does not equal terrorist.
I can see greekskii's argument. The bigger picture is one of years old conflict with all sides killing innocents in the process. Some despicable actions on all sides
The individual in this case appears to be acting alone but it has been called a terror offence because he's Libyan and was on the watch list.
There's no 'right' in this.
Not a direct reply to you tinhead, but just for balance sake, asylum seeker does not equal terrorist.
I can see greekskii's argument. The bigger picture is one of years old conflict with all sides killing innocents in the process. Some despicable actions on all sides
The individual in this case appears to be acting alone but it has been called a terror offence because he's Libyan and was on the watch list.
There's no 'right' in this.
In reply to Post #651
I don't get your logic. So bad people won't come here to do us harm because we aren't in the EU
I don't get your logic. So bad people won't come here to do us harm because we aren't in the EU
In reply to Post #652
Democracy is a bigger picture than your narrow views on history.
Democracy is a bigger picture than your narrow views on history.
In reply to Post #653
I'm just looking at motive. Why's he done it. Why's he been radicalised. 25yrs old he's have been 14 when bombs were dropped in Libya. Clearly has a grudge to bear with Britain. We will never know that reason but revenge could be one of them. Or the only one.
Like you said ocelot...you reap what you sow. Had this country never bombed Libya this guy might never have carried out these murders.
I'm just looking at motive. Why's he done it. Why's he been radicalised. 25yrs old he's have been 14 when bombs were dropped in Libya. Clearly has a grudge to bear with Britain. We will never know that reason but revenge could be one of them. Or the only one.
Like you said ocelot...you reap what you sow. Had this country never bombed Libya this guy might never have carried out these murders.
In reply to Post #655
Narrow views? Explain that statement?
Because there is plenty of countries that aren't democratic Britain hasn't gone to fight for the people. China for one... North Korea for 2.
Narrow views? Explain that statement?
Because there is plenty of countries that aren't democratic Britain hasn't gone to fight for the people. China for one... North Korea for 2.
In reply to Post #657
I'm not here to educate you constantly.
We've left the institutions of democracy behind whenever possible. Especially in the countries you've mentioned in the last few posts.
I'm not here to educate you constantly.
We've left the institutions of democracy behind whenever possible. Especially in the countries you've mentioned in the last few posts.
In reply to Post #658
As well as countless graves of innocent people... bombing your way to force democracy on countries isn't really something to be proud of in my eyes, but if you feel it is then that's your own choice.
I don't think you've ever educated me in my entire life. Education is based on facts, your opinions aren't that.
As well as countless graves of innocent people... bombing your way to force democracy on countries isn't really something to be proud of in my eyes, but if you feel it is then that's your own choice.
I don't think you've ever educated me in my entire life. Education is based on facts, your opinions aren't that.
In 2018/19 72% of those arrested for terrorist offences were British nationals.
Bob, I think you don't understand EU freedom of movement. Those seeking asylum are illegal all the way across Europe the apply for asylum here, if they make it. They do not arrive with lovely burgundy passports. But not many do. About 95% decide to go elsewhere, the Idea that they all want to come to the Uk is cobblers.
Bob, I think you don't understand EU freedom of movement. Those seeking asylum are illegal all the way across Europe the apply for asylum here, if they make it. They do not arrive with lovely burgundy passports. But not many do. About 95% decide to go elsewhere, the Idea that they all want to come to the Uk is cobblers.