In reply to Post #48
My son was on CPAP for a while as he was premature, I can imagine it will help those having difficulty with lung capacity and inhalation.. it's actually a gently forced oxygen mix that allows normal breathing and no sedation. Not sure if it can operate properly without air escaping as it basically stops the lungs completely deflating, which a healthy lung will do naturally, by keeping enough constant air passing over the mouth/nose to keep lungs partially inflated.. I'd have thought the air in the ward/unit will be full of airborne virus, but must have been accounted for in being re-engineered to meet regs.
It kept my lad alive, so I'm all for it
My son was on CPAP for a while as he was premature, I can imagine it will help those having difficulty with lung capacity and inhalation.. it's actually a gently forced oxygen mix that allows normal breathing and no sedation. Not sure if it can operate properly without air escaping as it basically stops the lungs completely deflating, which a healthy lung will do naturally, by keeping enough constant air passing over the mouth/nose to keep lungs partially inflated.. I'd have thought the air in the ward/unit will be full of airborne virus, but must have been accounted for in being re-engineered to meet regs.
It kept my lad alive, so I'm all for it
In reply to Post #50
Panic buying of foot pumps, fish tank air pumps and gaffer tape next.
Panic buying of foot pumps, fish tank air pumps and gaffer tape next.
In reply to Post #50
Gentle breeze for an infant maybe...............
My wife likened it to having her head stuck out of a car window at 40mph ..........after her heart surgery she was on it every other hour for 4/5 days.
A fishing buddy has a portable unit ( for sleep apnea ) .......the noise it makes is deafening if not sealed to his face properly.............
It will give him half a chance if the worst comes to the worst.
Gentle breeze for an infant maybe...............
My wife likened it to having her head stuck out of a car window at 40mph ..........after her heart surgery she was on it every other hour for 4/5 days.
A fishing buddy has a portable unit ( for sleep apnea ) .......the noise it makes is deafening if not sealed to his face properly.............
It will give him half a chance if the worst comes to the worst.
In reply to Post #52
Yeah he was on it 24/7 for a bit
Did the mask have a sealed fit on your wife?
I can't imagine that air forced into your lungs would help exhaling!
Small price to pay not to have ocelots heath Robinson footpump ventilator or being dead I suppose
Yeah he was on it 24/7 for a bit
Did the mask have a sealed fit on your wife?
I can't imagine that air forced into your lungs would help exhaling!
Small price to pay not to have ocelots heath Robinson footpump ventilator or being dead I suppose
In reply to Post #53
In reply to Post #54
round of applause for jeff bezos who managed to make £4.25bn by short selling his amazon stock just two weeks before this pandemic hit - no suggestion he did anything wrong of course, his timing is just naturally great. Stelios at easyjet also giving himself £60 mil dividends in feb 2020 also a highlight. Almost as if they knew something was up. Made my day anyway x
round of applause for jeff bezos who managed to make £4.25bn by short selling his amazon stock just two weeks before this pandemic hit - no suggestion he did anything wrong of course, his timing is just naturally great. Stelios at easyjet also giving himself £60 mil dividends in feb 2020 also a highlight. Almost as if they knew something was up. Made my day anyway x
In reply to Post #53
I cannot describe how she found the strength to fight them every time they put the mask on....She hated it.
All a distant memory now though
I cannot describe how she found the strength to fight them every time they put the mask on....She hated it.
All a distant memory now though
In reply to Post #56
Hi Croc,
Having read some info, it seems that CPAP devices are mainly used for people with sleep apnea and that some patients find them difficult to get used to. So, your wife having had it applied hour on hour off, seems odd and not user friendly.
It seems they are also used for patients that can use their lungs to breathe, but are not getting enough oxygen, like with asthma and COPD. Obviously they are being made to help combat the virus pandemic, because the NHS doesn't have that many of them. I have COPD and in the high risk category, so am pleased they are due to be massed produced and in my case, for future reference. It's interesting that mobile devices are also available for use at home and, perhaps, as you said, even when fishing.
BB.
Hi Croc,
Having read some info, it seems that CPAP devices are mainly used for people with sleep apnea and that some patients find them difficult to get used to. So, your wife having had it applied hour on hour off, seems odd and not user friendly.
It seems they are also used for patients that can use their lungs to breathe, but are not getting enough oxygen, like with asthma and COPD. Obviously they are being made to help combat the virus pandemic, because the NHS doesn't have that many of them. I have COPD and in the high risk category, so am pleased they are due to be massed produced and in my case, for future reference. It's interesting that mobile devices are also available for use at home and, perhaps, as you said, even when fishing.
BB.
In reply to Post #57
I'd have thought every hospital with maternity facilities has them too, or at least paediatric special care units.
Probably priced beyond the means of some trusts, like most things to do with healthcare. It's almost time to put the old cash cow out to pasture and actually invest in care
I'd have thought every hospital with maternity facilities has them too, or at least paediatric special care units.
Probably priced beyond the means of some trusts, like most things to do with healthcare. It's almost time to put the old cash cow out to pasture and actually invest in care
In reply to Post #58
Hi noj,
I think the proper respiratory units probably cost many £1000s because they are large, sophisticated pieces of kit, but the new CPAP units, I saw on the TV news, are small, and look less complicated devices, which I would hazard a guess will cost in the £100s, and probably be considered cost effective.
Given the conversion of buildings into Nightingale hospitals and the return of 20000 retired doctors and nurses etc. it seems the government isn't much focused on cost restraint.
BB.
Hi noj,
I think the proper respiratory units probably cost many £1000s because they are large, sophisticated pieces of kit, but the new CPAP units, I saw on the TV news, are small, and look less complicated devices, which I would hazard a guess will cost in the £100s, and probably be considered cost effective.
Given the conversion of buildings into Nightingale hospitals and the return of 20000 retired doctors and nurses etc. it seems the government isn't much focused on cost restraint.
BB.
In reply to Post #59
Because they're not paying for it mate
Knowing what I'm paid to, for example, hang the doors you get to a ward; those CPAP machines would not ordinarily be in the 100s.. no chance
I imagine the government will monitor profits. Depends what retooling and material costs are I suppose.
I did some work in a building that made mclaren parts and the whole operation was mind blowing!
Good luck to them, I hope it makes a difference for people suffering
Because they're not paying for it mate
Knowing what I'm paid to, for example, hang the doors you get to a ward; those CPAP machines would not ordinarily be in the 100s.. no chance
I imagine the government will monitor profits. Depends what retooling and material costs are I suppose.
I did some work in a building that made mclaren parts and the whole operation was mind blowing!
Good luck to them, I hope it makes a difference for people suffering
In reply to Post #60
As much as the incredible force the machine was putting out , it was the actual 'tight fit' of the mask she struggled with.
As for my fishing buddy , he has a face like Jaques Cousteau in the morning , the red ring around his face takes about an hour to disappear
The bag it comes with is not much bigger than a large camera bag , but we have to use venues where he can have an extension lead to his bivvy......
As much as the incredible force the machine was putting out , it was the actual 'tight fit' of the mask she struggled with.
As for my fishing buddy , he has a face like Jaques Cousteau in the morning , the red ring around his face takes about an hour to disappear
The bag it comes with is not much bigger than a large camera bag , but we have to use venues where he can have an extension lead to his bivvy......
Got my email confirmation that I've been signed up to be a nhs helper.
The map around me shows that I'm far from the only one who's done it too
The map around me shows that I'm far from the only one who's done it too
Hopefully we will be over this soon 
My place is shutting down this weekend for two weeks
My place is shutting down this weekend for two weeks
In reply to Post #62
Well done Mal and all the others who are volunteering. Nice one.
Well done Mal and all the others who are volunteering. Nice one.