In reply to Post #453
Thanks for the info bud. Does the BM1 Mix smell of anything if no flavouring is added? I'm assuming it's going to smell fishy because of the fish meal base?
Thanks for the info bud. Does the BM1 Mix smell of anything if no flavouring is added? I'm assuming it's going to smell fishy because of the fish meal base?
In reply to Post #454
I've used it with nothing but salmon oil and L030 and it's worked a treat, also used Squid and Octopus/Esterblend 12, also worked a treat. Basically just add any flavour you feel confident with. The basemix is quite distinct without adding anything and you have to add quite a bit of flavour to notice it really. I tend to add a small amount to the mixes then make some special hookbaits with more flavour and then put them in pots with a bit of glug.
I've used it with nothing but salmon oil and L030 and it's worked a treat, also used Squid and Octopus/Esterblend 12, also worked a treat. Basically just add any flavour you feel confident with. The basemix is quite distinct without adding anything and you have to add quite a bit of flavour to notice it really. I tend to add a small amount to the mixes then make some special hookbaits with more flavour and then put them in pots with a bit of glug.
In reply to Post #455
Great thanks you! I'm going to give these a go as my first attempt, now I'm going to order all the ingredients
Great thanks you! I'm going to give these a go as my first attempt, now I'm going to order all the ingredients
In reply to Post #454
Yeah, it smells quite fishy even with no flavour in it. 1ml per kilo of John Bakers crab flavour can really help improve this naturally built in smell if you wanted a fishy bait.
JB crab is expensive to buy, but at 1ml/kg it goes a long way, making up to 100kg for the price.
Yeah, it smells quite fishy even with no flavour in it. 1ml per kilo of John Bakers crab flavour can really help improve this naturally built in smell if you wanted a fishy bait.
JB crab is expensive to buy, but at 1ml/kg it goes a long way, making up to 100kg for the price.
In reply to Post #77
To answer a couple of questions this mix can be used all year without any worries, many have done and still do and it has stood the test of time
I have used it as a basis for many baits including sweet, savory, meaty and fishy 'flavours'.....but not all at once
I only fish a few hours a year now, work, family and other hobbies get in the way. Last year I managed about 3 or 4 nights and that was twice as many as the year before! However every now and then I get the bait books out, scratch my head and come up with a new mix (I say new but they are always a tweak of an existing mix). If you take BM1 and tweak it then you may end up with this.
20% LT94
20% Vanilla Extract Meal
17.8% Megablend
8% Crunchy Kelp Meal
8% Pre-digested fishmeal
10% Semolina
4% Supergold 60
4% Blood plasma
4% Hydrolysied Poultry Protein
2% Spirulina
1% Selenavite E
1% Betaine
0.3% (yes 0.3%!) Candy Sweet
per 10 eggs, 50ml CSL and 5ml Karpi
This mix has out-fished any other bait I have tried it against on various waters from club to day ticket to private lakes. Unfortunately the Poultry protein is no longer available and I have run out of Karpi and I am not about to order another production batch at crica £100 a go....so that's the end of that mix
Later this year I might see what i can do to the above mix and take it to the next level, but it was so good I am not sure it will be easy to tweak it again
To answer a couple of questions this mix can be used all year without any worries, many have done and still do and it has stood the test of time
I have used it as a basis for many baits including sweet, savory, meaty and fishy 'flavours'.....but not all at once
I only fish a few hours a year now, work, family and other hobbies get in the way. Last year I managed about 3 or 4 nights and that was twice as many as the year before! However every now and then I get the bait books out, scratch my head and come up with a new mix (I say new but they are always a tweak of an existing mix). If you take BM1 and tweak it then you may end up with this.
20% LT94
20% Vanilla Extract Meal
17.8% Megablend
8% Crunchy Kelp Meal
8% Pre-digested fishmeal
10% Semolina
4% Supergold 60
4% Blood plasma
4% Hydrolysied Poultry Protein
2% Spirulina
1% Selenavite E
1% Betaine
0.3% (yes 0.3%!) Candy Sweet
per 10 eggs, 50ml CSL and 5ml Karpi
This mix has out-fished any other bait I have tried it against on various waters from club to day ticket to private lakes. Unfortunately the Poultry protein is no longer available and I have run out of Karpi and I am not about to order another production batch at crica £100 a go....so that's the end of that mix
Later this year I might see what i can do to the above mix and take it to the next level, but it was so good I am not sure it will be easy to tweak it again
In reply to Post #458
Any recommendations of where I should order the ingredients.....CC Moore looks as good as any
Any recommendations of where I should order the ingredients.....CC Moore looks as good as any
In reply to Post #459
I tend to only use CC Moore these days. Used to shop around and get bits and bobs from all over the place but time is short these days so stick with one supplier
I tend to only use CC Moore these days. Used to shop around and get bits and bobs from all over the place but time is short these days so stick with one supplier
In reply to Post #458
What is a good inclusion level in any bait for Spirulina in your opinion? Also what would you suggest is a maximum level for its inclusion?
What is a good inclusion level in any bait for Spirulina in your opinion? Also what would you suggest is a maximum level for its inclusion?
In reply to Post #461
I have used it in this bait at 2% and it made a difference (not as good if I left it out) BUT that's all I tried as I had little time to test like I used too. No idea as to a maximum, how rich are you feeling
I have used it in this bait at 2% and it made a difference (not as good if I left it out) BUT that's all I tried as I had little time to test like I used too. No idea as to a maximum, how rich are you feeling
In reply to Post #462
I just put an offer in on a new home so not very rich at all at the moment.
Ill have a play with spirulina through the summer, as its an ingredient I've never used before and keep wanting to try it.
Thanks
I just put an offer in on a new home so not very rich at all at the moment.
Ill have a play with spirulina through the summer, as its an ingredient I've never used before and keep wanting to try it.
Thanks
In reply to Post #460
yeah i suppose it would save on postage too!
Im sure it has been said on this thread but im unable to find it now....could something else be used as a substitute for Equivite? as its very expensive and CC Moore dont have it.
Cheers!
yeah i suppose it would save on postage too!
Im sure it has been said on this thread but im unable to find it now....could something else be used as a substitute for Equivite? as its very expensive and CC Moore dont have it.
Cheers!
In reply to Post #464
Here you go Selenevite E, use at 2.5% and add something else you fancy to make up the other 2.5%. I used GLM powder on my latest batch.
Here you go Selenevite E, use at 2.5% and add something else you fancy to make up the other 2.5%. I used GLM powder on my latest batch.
In reply to Post #465
In reply to Post #465
Thanks
All ordered up hopefully everything will be here by Friday
Just another question, I have some whey powder in my cupboard that won't get used, what could I substitute in the BM1 mix for this? Or is it even possible?
Thanks
All ordered up hopefully everything will be here by Friday
Just another question, I have some whey powder in my cupboard that won't get used, what could I substitute in the BM1 mix for this? Or is it even possible?
In reply to Post #460
Just put an order in with CCMoores for a French trip that came today. First time I have bought in higher quantities, works out much cheaper :
This is what I ordered (in kgs)
lt94 25
maize protein 25
megablend 12.5
semolina 12.5
soya flour 12.5
pre digested fishmeal 12.5
vitamealo 10
betaine 1
liquid shellfish Concentrate 2 litres
salmon oil 5 litres
Whole Egg Powder 10
Total 371.4
With 7% discount 345.402
Delivery charge 41
Total Delivered 386.66
I already have the Selenavite and 7 of the items will make much more than the 80kgs dry mix the LT94 & Shellfish will make
Top Bait - TOP TOP Prize - and a big for a 1 stop shop in the name of CCMoores.
Just got to roll this lot now!
Just put an order in with CCMoores for a French trip that came today. First time I have bought in higher quantities, works out much cheaper :
This is what I ordered (in kgs)
lt94 25
maize protein 25
megablend 12.5
semolina 12.5
soya flour 12.5
pre digested fishmeal 12.5
vitamealo 10
betaine 1
liquid shellfish Concentrate 2 litres
salmon oil 5 litres
Whole Egg Powder 10
Total 371.4
With 7% discount 345.402
Delivery charge 41
Total Delivered 386.66
I already have the Selenavite and 7 of the items will make much more than the 80kgs dry mix the LT94 & Shellfish will make
Top Bait - TOP TOP Prize - and a big
for a 1 stop shop in the name of CCMoores.Just got to roll this lot now!