In reply to Post #14
I'll also put this link up for you to read....better from the horse's mouth than from me....
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-exports-dispatches-and-supplying-goods-abroad#collection-by-customer
I'll also put this link up for you to read....better from the horse's mouth than from me....
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-exports-dispatches-and-supplying-goods-abroad#collection-by-customer
In reply to Post #16
Thats great JK, thanks very much. That's one potential issue gone.
Thats great JK, thanks very much. That's one potential issue gone.
In reply to Post #17
No problem
No problem
In reply to Post #14
Message surpressed as my interpretation was wrong, good accountant I am.
Message surpressed as my interpretation was wrong, good accountant I am.
In reply to Post #19
Has there been any definitive guidance on this yet?.
Has there been any definitive guidance on this yet?.
In reply to Post #20
Not that I'm aware of no....I think travel will need to start again and get people going over to see how it's being policed at Calais
Not that I'm aware of no....I think travel will need to start again and get people going over to see how it's being policed at Calais
In reply to Post #22
As said, the official look on this is no bait would be allowed. I think even the 2kg is dubious as I believe that relates to specialist pet food for dogs with special dietary needs for example.
The question is, will they police it? And what will the penalties be? and thats not going to be answered for a while.
As said, the official look on this is no bait would be allowed. I think even the 2kg is dubious as I believe that relates to specialist pet food for dogs with special dietary needs for example.
The question is, will they police it? And what will the penalties be? and thats not going to be answered for a while.
In reply to Post #23
Perhaps Eastenders will diversify into selling bait rather just cheap beer and wine
Perhaps Eastenders will diversify into selling bait rather just cheap beer and wine
If 48% get waved through, while 52% get their bait confiscated, fined, and their bodily orifices inspected for hidden pop-ups, it would seem fair.
Just hope the French customs officers can tell who's who.
Just hope the French customs officers can tell who's who.
In reply to Post #24
I think most commercial fisheries will now supply bait to visiting anglers.
I think most commercial fisheries will now supply bait to visiting anglers.
In reply to Post #23
Agreed, this might indeed be the case that not even 2kg is allowed without full SPS controls, but it's not entirely clear and it depends partly on composition.
A detailed reading of the regs certainly dictates that all pet food (except that for vet health reasons and then only as long as <2kg) will be subject to full SPS checks as will all animal feeds containing milk or meat products. A feed bait containing NO milk or meat is, I think, exempt at <2kg, but I can't ascertain this for absolute certainty.
The detailed reg is here for anybody who fancies sending themselves to sleep:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32019R2122&from=EN
All a moot point probably anyway; 2kg not much use in any case.
To avoid the need for full SPS certification and border checks it is pretty much Inevitable that anglers will probably have no option but to source bait from within the EU for EU trips, and this will probably make it very difficult to get U.K. brands easily (certainly in the short/med term) or at a sensible price.
Or, depending on the level of random checks, people can take the chance on effectively smuggling bait into the EU, but I wouldn't expect French customs taking a lenient view of that for anyone getting caught as they'd view is as a serious bio-security offence.
Agreed, this might indeed be the case that not even 2kg is allowed without full SPS controls, but it's not entirely clear and it depends partly on composition.
A detailed reading of the regs certainly dictates that all pet food (except that for vet health reasons and then only as long as <2kg) will be subject to full SPS checks as will all animal feeds containing milk or meat products. A feed bait containing NO milk or meat is, I think, exempt at <2kg, but I can't ascertain this for absolute certainty.
The detailed reg is here for anybody who fancies sending themselves to sleep:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32019R2122&from=EN
All a moot point probably anyway; 2kg not much use in any case.
To avoid the need for full SPS certification and border checks it is pretty much Inevitable that anglers will probably have no option but to source bait from within the EU for EU trips, and this will probably make it very difficult to get U.K. brands easily (certainly in the short/med term) or at a sensible price.
Or, depending on the level of random checks, people can take the chance on effectively smuggling bait into the EU, but I wouldn't expect French customs taking a lenient view of that for anyone getting caught as they'd view is as a serious bio-security offence.
In reply to Post #27
Shingoose, your final sentence is the crux of the matter.
Even now with a full travel ban for non residents of France (unless you're a cross border worker), there are still British anglers coming over here to fish - even public lakes where the French aren't night fishing due to the curfew - Many carp anglers are chancers.
Shingoose, your final sentence is the crux of the matter.
Even now with a full travel ban for non residents of France (unless you're a cross border worker), there are still British anglers coming over here to fish - even public lakes where the French aren't night fishing due to the curfew - Many carp anglers are chancers.
In reply to Post #27
Re your last paragraph, nothing has actually changed as far as anglers simply going fishing and taking the same bait that they have for the last 30+ years, why is it now a bio security offence?
Re your last paragraph, nothing has actually changed as far as anglers simply going fishing and taking the same bait that they have for the last 30+ years, why is it now a bio security offence?
In reply to Post #29
Because the regulations that apply to British anglers and their bait have now changed! The bait may be no different, but unless you comply with the import procedures and border checks that apply now the U.K. is outside the single market, then French customs and port health authorities will consider you are breaching the relevant EU biosecurity requirements, and you'll be open to the relevant penalties (if caught!).
Because the regulations that apply to British anglers and their bait have now changed! The bait may be no different, but unless you comply with the import procedures and border checks that apply now the U.K. is outside the single market, then French customs and port health authorities will consider you are breaching the relevant EU biosecurity requirements, and you'll be open to the relevant penalties (if caught!).
In reply to Post #29
I find it odd how many anglers I've heard saying that nothing has changed - a huge amount has now changed in terms of the rules of coming into the EU from the UK - its whether or not the amount of checks change that is key here.
I find it odd how many anglers I've heard saying that nothing has changed - a huge amount has now changed in terms of the rules of coming into the EU from the UK - its whether or not the amount of checks change that is key here.