Use a lower breaking strain hooklength than your mainline. Boom, crisis solved.
In reply to Post #1171
What if you snap off on the cast??? Crisis back.
What if you snap off on the cast??? Crisis back.
In reply to Post #1160
I fish a gravel pit that has a good number of bars/humps in it.i am currently using helicopter rigs on a shortish leadcore leader.
If this rig is unsafe,can anyone advise a suitable alternative.I was under the impression that this rig was safest of all,as the fish is only left with the hook length.
I fish a gravel pit that has a good number of bars/humps in it.i am currently using helicopter rigs on a shortish leadcore leader.
If this rig is unsafe,can anyone advise a suitable alternative.I was under the impression that this rig was safest of all,as the fish is only left with the hook length.
In reply to Post #1160
Thanks for taking the time to write. I was under the impression a Heli rig was safe as well. From now on it is only tubing for me.
Thanks for taking the time to write. I was under the impression a Heli rig was safe as well. From now on it is only tubing for me.
good advice 
In reply to Post #1160
very sound advice
very sound advice
In reply to Post #1160
I am a ready done lead core user and i use the Korda ready made carp rig, i also have the Korda carp medi care ( both mouth and body)and a carp cradle i always make sure my lead can eject from my lead core before i do each cast ( as fish safety is a priority as it should be for all anglers, i'm not the only one going to catch the fish i catch so why ruin the experience for others?)
whilst i haven't had any problems so far in my carp fishing experience, i'm fully aware that a problem could be just around the corner and i would rather loose a 50p or what ever weight instead of loosing that beautiful carp that we all sit at the bank to catch.
and i guess another thing that stops me from making my own rigs is generally down to inexperience but seeing some of these pictures they seem like "bodge job" home made rigs and i wouldnt want to be doing that my self
I am a ready done lead core user and i use the Korda ready made carp rig, i also have the Korda carp medi care ( both mouth and body)and a carp cradle i always make sure my lead can eject from my lead core before i do each cast ( as fish safety is a priority as it should be for all anglers, i'm not the only one going to catch the fish i catch so why ruin the experience for others?)
whilst i haven't had any problems so far in my carp fishing experience, i'm fully aware that a problem could be just around the corner and i would rather loose a 50p or what ever weight instead of loosing that beautiful carp that we all sit at the bank to catch.
and i guess another thing that stops me from making my own rigs is generally down to inexperience but seeing some of these pictures they seem like "bodge job" home made rigs and i wouldnt want to be doing that my self
I won't be using it ever again after reading this.
In reply to Post #1177
i always make sure my lead can eject from my lead core before i do each cast
I don't think that you have grasped the real potential danger area. It isn't just the lead that causes the problems it is the leadcore itself which is heavy enough to hold the hook in place.
whilst i haven't had any problems so far in my carp fishing experience,
You may not be aware of any problems and unless you actually live on the lake you will be unlikely to see the problems caused by leadcore rigs which have been left out in the lake after a crack-off on a cast.
some of these pictures they seem like "bodge job" home made rigs and i wouldnt want to be doing that my self
Read my post again and you will see that the fish that I had to kill wasn't the result of a badly tied rig. The lead had been ejected but the leadcore alone was enough to damage the fish beyond the point of recovery.
i always make sure my lead can eject from my lead core before i do each cast
I don't think that you have grasped the real potential danger area. It isn't just the lead that causes the problems it is the leadcore itself which is heavy enough to hold the hook in place.
whilst i haven't had any problems so far in my carp fishing experience,
You may not be aware of any problems and unless you actually live on the lake you will be unlikely to see the problems caused by leadcore rigs which have been left out in the lake after a crack-off on a cast.
some of these pictures they seem like "bodge job" home made rigs and i wouldnt want to be doing that my self
Read my post again and you will see that the fish that I had to kill wasn't the result of a badly tied rig. The lead had been ejected but the leadcore alone was enough to damage the fish beyond the point of recovery.
In reply to Post #1179
was enough to damage the fish beyond the point of recovery
Better you than me Keith. I'm glad you had the moral courage to kill it rather than simply return it to wash your hands of any responsibility. Not a nice situation to put in indeed. That is exactly what I would hope I would do if I ever confronted such a ghastly choice - which I hope I never do.
was enough to damage the fish beyond the point of recovery
Better you than me Keith. I'm glad you had the moral courage to kill it rather than simply return it to wash your hands of any responsibility. Not a nice situation to put in indeed. That is exactly what I would hope I would do if I ever confronted such a ghastly choice - which I hope I never do.
In reply to Post #1179
i understand where you are coming there,
"crack off cast" i take it by that you mean where the knot that ties the lead core to the main line breaks on the cast? (as personally i have never had this problem)
and which post are you referring to on the lead core was enough to damage the fish? you haven't posted any pictures ? there is no reference in this thread of you killing a fish? i have re gone through all posts several times and haven't found you saying anything of the sort,(Im not trying to aggravate anyone or cause an argument here)
the first post ( i can see) is posted by merl and has the picture of the rig. thats as far down as i can see (if there is anymore i have clicked on show all pages and says there is only 2)
i understand where you are coming there,
"crack off cast" i take it by that you mean where the knot that ties the lead core to the main line breaks on the cast? (as personally i have never had this problem)
and which post are you referring to on the lead core was enough to damage the fish? you haven't posted any pictures ? there is no reference in this thread of you killing a fish? i have re gone through all posts several times and haven't found you saying anything of the sort,(Im not trying to aggravate anyone or cause an argument here)
the first post ( i can see) is posted by merl and has the picture of the rig. thats as far down as i can see (if there is anymore i have clicked on show all pages and says there is only 2)
In reply to Post #1181
.....and the last (an upper twenty mirror) was found towing a very large ball of weed and the pressure from this drag had snapped its bottom jaw, leaving the jaw hanging against it's “chest” and I was left with the sad job of killing it and burying it.
This from the second page of my article which Ken has made a sticky at the head of this thread.
.....and the last (an upper twenty mirror) was found towing a very large ball of weed and the pressure from this drag had snapped its bottom jaw, leaving the jaw hanging against it's “chest” and I was left with the sad job of killing it and burying it.
This from the second page of my article which Ken has made a sticky at the head of this thread.
In reply to Post #1182
ah apologies i did not re read those
ah apologies i did not re read those
worst link i have been sent yet as a newbie to carp
http://www.masterblanker.com/2010/02/24/beginners-rigs-where-to-start-if-you-are-starting-carp-fishing/
http://www.masterblanker.com/2010/02/24/beginners-rigs-where-to-start-if-you-are-starting-carp-fishing/
In reply to Post #1160
enjoyed reading that. shame there are still people out their using unsafe material/rigs i've caught a few carp because they've been trailing 'death' rigs. sickens me.
enjoyed reading that. shame there are still people out their using unsafe material/rigs i've caught a few carp because they've been trailing 'death' rigs. sickens me.