Here's an idea for some.......If you have friends in NI close to the ROI border it may be worth getting a UK order from ANY bait firm and sent to them, they cross invisible border into the ROI and the post to EU country of choice.......there's always a loophole....... 
In reply to Post #289
I'm sure there is a way through that back door.......I'm not talking of exporting tons in one go, I'm talking about small bait order FFS........I bet if I load my car up with bait and drive to northern island I would have no issue when arriving in NI unlike Calais where their playing by the book.......
Also, No need for the hostile reply, keep that in the non carp section........after all it's just an idea?!
I'm sure there is a way through that back door.......I'm not talking of exporting tons in one go, I'm talking about small bait order FFS........I bet if I load my car up with bait and drive to northern island I would have no issue when arriving in NI unlike Calais where their playing by the book.......
Also, No need for the hostile reply, keep that in the non carp section........after all it's just an idea?!
In reply to Post #291
Not ruining a decent thread........Last word is all yours.......
Not ruining a decent thread........Last word is all yours.......
In reply to Post #290
I think the cost and time involved in travelling via NI would make your boilies rather expensive.
I think the cost and time involved in travelling via NI would make your boilies rather expensive.
In reply to Post #291
Multi coloured in red, white and blue😂
Multi coloured in red, white and blue😂
In reply to Post #294
Just mark the bait packaging "Covid Vaccine" , our "friends" will be pleased to let them through , except in NI where less than a month in they want to implement a hard border , and to think for years they kept saying it would be us 🤔
Just mark the bait packaging "Covid Vaccine" , our "friends" will be pleased to let them through , except in NI where less than a month in they want to implement a hard border , and to think for years they kept saying it would be us 🤔
In reply to Post #295
I think that's twisting what happened a little, certainly a big mistake by the EU and they U turned after only a couple of hours of announcing their plans which were never implemented.
AZ are causing all kinds of trouble with the supply of their vaccine.
I think that's twisting what happened a little, certainly a big mistake by the EU and they U turned after only a couple of hours of announcing their plans which were never implemented.
AZ are causing all kinds of trouble with the supply of their vaccine.
In reply to Post #296
Not really twisting it is it....it's what happened! Let's face it, the EU ordered 3 months after the UK and have only approved it for use yesterday and now expect to be first in the queue. Now they put in special measures to control exports to the UK in order to get it despite AZ having problems with supply....talk about scapegoats for their own ball's up. Maybe giving AZ some support instead of waving contracts at them would be more constructive considering the **** we're in at present.
And people go on about us lowering standards..think they should take a look at their own moral compass tbh.
They started to show their true colours in the Brexit negotiations and now they have again.
Rant over...happy Saturday everyone
Not really twisting it is it....it's what happened! Let's face it, the EU ordered 3 months after the UK and have only approved it for use yesterday and now expect to be first in the queue. Now they put in special measures to control exports to the UK in order to get it despite AZ having problems with supply....talk about scapegoats for their own ball's up. Maybe giving AZ some support instead of waving contracts at them would be more constructive considering the **** we're in at present.
And people go on about us lowering standards..think they should take a look at their own moral compass tbh.
They started to show their true colours in the Brexit negotiations and now they have again.
Rant over...happy Saturday everyone
In reply to Post #297
Do you people really think that we cant produce vaccine in big numbers if we wanted to? Half of pharma companies in the world can produce vaccine if they would be asked to...
Do you people really think that we cant produce vaccine in big numbers if we wanted to? Half of pharma companies in the world can produce vaccine if they would be asked to...
In reply to Post #297
Twisting it as in stating that they want to institute a hard border. There was a couple of hours between the announcement they wanted to make checks to ensure that NI wasn't being used as a backdoor for vaccine shipments from Belgium, and an announcement that they'd basically made a massive mistake and it won't be happening.
Hugely embarrassing from the EU but let's not make out that they've stomped all over the GF agreement.
Twisting it as in stating that they want to institute a hard border. There was a couple of hours between the announcement they wanted to make checks to ensure that NI wasn't being used as a backdoor for vaccine shipments from Belgium, and an announcement that they'd basically made a massive mistake and it won't be happening.
Hugely embarrassing from the EU but let's not make out that they've stomped all over the GF agreement.
In reply to Post #299
If Boris had done that I'm afraid it would be viewed different to your explanation 🙄🤔 , but overall the main duty of the government is to get as much vaccine as possible as quickly as possible , and TBH the problems of other country's are low on his priority . He is playing a strait bat , quiet rightly , and quoting a contract . The damage of relations is showing now , shame because some people I have met in France have been fantastic .
Won't stop me taking the kids to euro parks , and hopefully fish a bit , and driving around the lovely empty country .
If Boris had done that I'm afraid it would be viewed different to your explanation 🙄🤔 , but overall the main duty of the government is to get as much vaccine as possible as quickly as possible , and TBH the problems of other country's are low on his priority . He is playing a strait bat , quiet rightly , and quoting a contract . The damage of relations is showing now , shame because some people I have met in France have been fantastic .
Won't stop me taking the kids to euro parks , and hopefully fish a bit , and driving around the lovely empty country .
In reply to Post #299
Not arguing Jim as this has been a semi sensible thread for once but they invoked article16....fact. Pretty sure they could of done there due diligence another way and pretty sure it wouldn't of been done without all the legal issues/reprecussions discussed at top level because that's what the EU does. The immediate back lash from just about everyone including the Irish was more a factor in the backtrack me thinks.
Darkol, yeah agreed and maybe some of the other pharma co's are helping behind the scenes... you'd like to think so but it's all about money to some and I would imagine intellectual property is a problem for a lot of them, especially for the new types of vaccines. To my knowledge AZ are the only ones not doing it for profit.
Not arguing Jim as this has been a semi sensible thread for once but they invoked article16....fact. Pretty sure they could of done there due diligence another way and pretty sure it wouldn't of been done without all the legal issues/reprecussions discussed at top level because that's what the EU does. The immediate back lash from just about everyone including the Irish was more a factor in the backtrack me thinks.
Darkol, yeah agreed and maybe some of the other pharma co's are helping behind the scenes... you'd like to think so but it's all about money to some and I would imagine intellectual property is a problem for a lot of them, especially for the new types of vaccines. To my knowledge AZ are the only ones not doing it for profit.
In reply to Post #301
Not after an argument either JK
Its just so many people have been so quick to jump on the EU over this and as far as I can see they made a massive cocktail up and U turned within hours. If Ireland were a big factor in the decision it just goes to show that a small country such as Ireland has a lot of control over these decisions.
The UK government was happy to break International law and was condemned worldwide just a few months ago and consistently threatened a no deal exit which would have plunged the Irish border into chaos. I dont think it's suddenly got the moral high ground now that the EU made a very brief, painfully embarissing balls up.
Not after an argument either JK
Its just so many people have been so quick to jump on the EU over this and as far as I can see they made a massive cocktail up and U turned within hours. If Ireland were a big factor in the decision it just goes to show that a small country such as Ireland has a lot of control over these decisions.
The UK government was happy to break International law and was condemned worldwide just a few months ago and consistently threatened a no deal exit which would have plunged the Irish border into chaos. I dont think it's suddenly got the moral high ground now that the EU made a very brief, painfully embarissing balls up.
In reply to Post #302
Not forgetting 🙄🙄🙄 , that all that was going on whilst we were trying to negotiate a deal , it was a game of poker where you show the worst hand and don't blink . Even the EU negotiators were saying they did not believe it would go to WTO , but they did blink , all part of the game . The thing with article 15 is that for years the EU said they were worried we would use it , and no mater what you say about the u turn , there is no way this was not authorised by the very top , who were prepared to do so. For all our sakes the bad feeling now across the water need to settle , bridges need building .
Not forgetting 🙄🙄🙄 , that all that was going on whilst we were trying to negotiate a deal , it was a game of poker where you show the worst hand and don't blink . Even the EU negotiators were saying they did not believe it would go to WTO , but they did blink , all part of the game . The thing with article 15 is that for years the EU said they were worried we would use it , and no mater what you say about the u turn , there is no way this was not authorised by the very top , who were prepared to do so. For all our sakes the bad feeling now across the water need to settle , bridges need building .
Etang Saint Pierremont February 2021 update
Our updated website is now live.
Some of last year's lake record catch pictures have been added together with an additional BAIT page.
With the new rules concerning what can and what can't be transported across the channel regarding fishing bait we have introduced a new service for not only our booked guests but to any fishing parties wishing to have a high-quality European fishing bait delivered directly to the lake of their choice a few days before their arrival. https://www.etangstpierremont.com/bait-prices
There seems to be lots of mis information especially on social media about taking bait abroad, so we have done some investigating and got the facts together
The facts are...
There is no fine for private individuals if you are caught with banned substances (Meat & dairy) by the French border inspectors, it will just be confiscated and destroyed, if you deliberately try to conceal the banned items (Bait) then this becomes more serious and you may be charged with smuggling!
Certain social media groups and individuals believe the ban on meat and dairy will be removed by the start of spring to accommodate British fishermen, with some individuals stating the French don't want to lose the English fishermen's revenue, this is highly unlikely as the EU ban on certain meat and dairy products is not new it was introduced in 2002 Following the 2001 Foot and Mouth Disease epidemic within the EU, the European Commission considered that the mechanisms in place to prevent the introduction of personal consignments of meat, milk or their products should be strengthened across the EU. It seems highly unlikely that the EU are going to Change laws just for the English to be allowed to bring bait into France, it would require all the member states to vote on it unanimously and of course the struggling French bait suppliers would lose out on sales.
There appear to be many reputable bait companies across Europe, many have been around for years, we as a lake have considered many and have chosen MunchBaits to be our supplier for the foreseeable future. View the range and our delivery service at https://www.etangstpierremont.com/bait-prices
We will continue watching what is happening regarding Uk travel and French border controls and as each groups holiday becomes affected, we will contact our guests accordingly by phone before your scheduled arrival date to discuss options to choose the same week in 2022 or later this year if available.
In these uncertain times with new announcements being made regularly by both Governments the only guarantee we can make is that none of our booked guests will lose their bookings. Once the Borders restrictions are relaxed, we will be open as normal and will be ready to personally welcome our Guests once again.
Taken from their f/b page. Never used this bait have no idea what its like, also never paid £13 a kilo . If you buy 10kg it works out at £8 kilo, if you buy this bait from Angling Direct you can get 10kg for £62.98, £17 cheaper. This I believe is whats going to happen, lakes will supply bait some known some not, at inflated prices so adding to the cost of your trip. How confident will people be using a highly priced bait you`ve never heard of? Is it just paperwork that allows bait companies to send the same bait to Europe that the anglers would like to take themselves? Does the ban also apply to all the pots of pop ups, wafters and hookbaits that all anglers carry?
Our updated website is now live.
Some of last year's lake record catch pictures have been added together with an additional BAIT page.
With the new rules concerning what can and what can't be transported across the channel regarding fishing bait we have introduced a new service for not only our booked guests but to any fishing parties wishing to have a high-quality European fishing bait delivered directly to the lake of their choice a few days before their arrival. https://www.etangstpierremont.com/bait-prices
There seems to be lots of mis information especially on social media about taking bait abroad, so we have done some investigating and got the facts together
The facts are...
There is no fine for private individuals if you are caught with banned substances (Meat & dairy) by the French border inspectors, it will just be confiscated and destroyed, if you deliberately try to conceal the banned items (Bait) then this becomes more serious and you may be charged with smuggling!
Certain social media groups and individuals believe the ban on meat and dairy will be removed by the start of spring to accommodate British fishermen, with some individuals stating the French don't want to lose the English fishermen's revenue, this is highly unlikely as the EU ban on certain meat and dairy products is not new it was introduced in 2002 Following the 2001 Foot and Mouth Disease epidemic within the EU, the European Commission considered that the mechanisms in place to prevent the introduction of personal consignments of meat, milk or their products should be strengthened across the EU. It seems highly unlikely that the EU are going to Change laws just for the English to be allowed to bring bait into France, it would require all the member states to vote on it unanimously and of course the struggling French bait suppliers would lose out on sales.
There appear to be many reputable bait companies across Europe, many have been around for years, we as a lake have considered many and have chosen MunchBaits to be our supplier for the foreseeable future. View the range and our delivery service at https://www.etangstpierremont.com/bait-prices
We will continue watching what is happening regarding Uk travel and French border controls and as each groups holiday becomes affected, we will contact our guests accordingly by phone before your scheduled arrival date to discuss options to choose the same week in 2022 or later this year if available.
In these uncertain times with new announcements being made regularly by both Governments the only guarantee we can make is that none of our booked guests will lose their bookings. Once the Borders restrictions are relaxed, we will be open as normal and will be ready to personally welcome our Guests once again.
Taken from their f/b page. Never used this bait have no idea what its like, also never paid £13 a kilo . If you buy 10kg it works out at £8 kilo, if you buy this bait from Angling Direct you can get 10kg for £62.98, £17 cheaper. This I believe is whats going to happen, lakes will supply bait some known some not, at inflated prices so adding to the cost of your trip. How confident will people be using a highly priced bait you`ve never heard of? Is it just paperwork that allows bait companies to send the same bait to Europe that the anglers would like to take themselves? Does the ban also apply to all the pots of pop ups, wafters and hookbaits that all anglers carry?