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The CarpForum approved boilie recipe (443,619 views)
theheron theheron
Posts: 2,532
#242 27 Aug 2012 18:46
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If you want the optimal dosage of MSG for a nutritional bait it would be zero% but in almost every bait I have made I use a heaped teaspoon in 1kg.
AndyClark AndyClark
Posts: 5,803
#243 27 Aug 2012 21:13
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Im no bait buff mate...i spoke to peter (smurf) and went with his reccomendations tbh...im a rookie learning
SamBarley
Posts: 2,210
#244 27 Aug 2012 21:16
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2.5 % is not too much on that mix Limey.
But remember you can get usefull vits from products such as brewers yeast and kelp meal/powder
joe_echo joe_echo
Posts: 905
#245 1 Sep 2012 19:47
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Just made up the first batch and I ended up using 13 eggs. Don't know if the eggs were just small but it was a very stiff mix.
stubiedooo stubiedooo
Posts: 142
#246 1 Sep 2012 20:59
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I know this is not the best mix ever but as a first mix will this roll and catch fish.
30% Standard Fishmeal
20% C.L.O
33% Semo
10% Soya flour
7%  vitamealo milk powder
Cod liver oil 20mm
Molassesa     30mm
Squid & octopus flavour
theheron theheron
Posts: 2,532
#247 1 Sep 2012 21:54
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yes and yes
stubiedooo stubiedooo
Posts: 142
#248 2 Sep 2012 11:24
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Dose anybody know if there is a difference between vitamealo milk powderand topaz calf milk replacement.
Chuffy Chuffy
Posts: 6,792
#249 8 Sep 2012 14:01
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Just done a session with the BM1 that was slower than the previous one shall we say and one thing I have noticed is that they go too soft for my liking as hookbaits and invariably I was winding in an empty rig in the morning. Currently I am boiling for 90 seconds then drying for 24. I now realise the situation may have been made worse because I had then put them in an airdry bag when I got to he lake. From what I have read on here it appears that the drier the bait the quicker it takes on water and goes soft quicker?? Thoughts??

Also from my searching on here it looks like you can add Egg Albumin or Whey Protein Concentrate to toughen them up a bit.

What would you recommend for inclusion rates in the BM1 mix to get the desired effect? Also, would it be best to make up separate batches of hookbaits for the purpose or make the whole mix tougher, if you see what I mean?
paulsv paulsv
Posts: 57
#250 8 Sep 2012 14:53
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You can make hardened hookbaits by adding 10% Egg albumin.
Do this only on the hookbaits.
Soft baits are more attractive in my mind the rock solid ones.
Smurf Smurf
Posts: 3,504
#251 8 Sep 2012 15:11
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Between 5 and 10% egg albumin and/or WPC should be fine. Otherwise as he says....hookbaits only
SamBarley
Posts: 2,210
#252 8 Sep 2012 15:46
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In reply to Post #249
Or blood powder for the cheaper option (just as effective for that purpose)
Chuffy Chuffy
Posts: 6,792
#253 8 Sep 2012 17:05
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Ok, thanks guys, back to the rolling board!!

Chuffy Chuffy
Posts: 6,792
#254 8 Sep 2012 19:27
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Before i do though, what are the pros and cons of each of Albumin, WPC and Whey Gel?
Amino Amino
Posts: 1,842
#255 9 Sep 2012 17:21
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Whey gel for me everytime where hard hookers needed, drives out moisture and gives a harder finished bait throughout than standard wpc80.
heto heto
Posts: 167
#256 9 Sep 2012 17:56
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Any thoughts on the free amino acids available in the mix?
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