In reply to Post #225
we will have to agree to disagree slightly mate.
Im not in the PAG anymore mate, it wasn't really doing anything in my eyes, although I have the upmost respect for all of them
I do however do a lot of work for UKWOK as a fisheries advisor (un paid)
Not too sure what you mean regarding illegal releases, but if you mean Re Hab's,, no, you don't have to keep records, in saying that Dave does
I do agree that there has been some MASSIVE mistakes in the past, ie Phillip Wares activity, of which was completely wrong, but had the backing of higher powers in government after the he was told not to d what he was by the EA
I also agree that anyone keeping otters for whatever reason should be regulated. Re hab centre do have to have a license to do so and are only able to release a certain amount per yr. No captive breed otters are released, its against the law. (not saying some will break the law, obviously they will)
I could type for hours on this subject, but wont.
I also heard that Burghfield is only fencing half the lake....well that is completly pointless
we will have to agree to disagree slightly mate.
Im not in the PAG anymore mate, it wasn't really doing anything in my eyes, although I have the upmost respect for all of them
I do however do a lot of work for UKWOK as a fisheries advisor (un paid)
Not too sure what you mean regarding illegal releases, but if you mean Re Hab's,, no, you don't have to keep records, in saying that Dave does
I do agree that there has been some MASSIVE mistakes in the past, ie Phillip Wares activity, of which was completely wrong, but had the backing of higher powers in government after the he was told not to d what he was by the EA
I also agree that anyone keeping otters for whatever reason should be regulated. Re hab centre do have to have a license to do so and are only able to release a certain amount per yr. No captive breed otters are released, its against the law. (not saying some will break the law, obviously they will)
I could type for hours on this subject, but wont.
I also heard that Burghfield is only fencing half the lake....well that is completly pointless
In reply to Post #226
Half a fence. Now that's mad, especially asking for peoples money too!!
What my point is that without regulation and recording on the releases everything is pointless gestures. If it's recorded by the governing body then it can be accessed publicly by way of FOI. It could also be used by fishery owners to reclaim damages from whoever irresponsibly releases on/near a fishery. Like I said, it's the processes and regulation that needs tightening further. Trapping and fencing are the options, no culls. Next step is ensure it's done sensibly as both UKWOT and NE admit actually monitoring otters is next to impossible, as is tagging.
Half a fence. Now that's mad, especially asking for peoples money too!!
What my point is that without regulation and recording on the releases everything is pointless gestures. If it's recorded by the governing body then it can be accessed publicly by way of FOI. It could also be used by fishery owners to reclaim damages from whoever irresponsibly releases on/near a fishery. Like I said, it's the processes and regulation that needs tightening further. Trapping and fencing are the options, no culls. Next step is ensure it's done sensibly as both UKWOT and NE admit actually monitoring otters is next to impossible, as is tagging.
In reply to Post #227
agree mate, half fence is nothing but stupid and wasting a lot of money and heart ache...
re the regulations, again 110% agree, everything needs to be transparent and water tight, but there again, a bit like that idiot who got caught breaking the law shooting an otter and then gets sent down for it, otter people will also break the law
No easy answer hey mate, its one of the reasons I like the subject so much
agree mate, half fence is nothing but stupid and wasting a lot of money and heart ache...
re the regulations, again 110% agree, everything needs to be transparent and water tight, but there again, a bit like that idiot who got caught breaking the law shooting an otter and then gets sent down for it, otter people will also break the law
No easy answer hey mate, its one of the reasons I like the subject so much
In reply to Post #227
regarding tracking otter, yes, that's impossible for otters that are already in the wild, and it will never be done purely down to cost of DNA tracing, so that horse has bolted already.
Re habs do have chips in them
regarding tracking otter, yes, that's impossible for otters that are already in the wild, and it will never be done purely down to cost of DNA tracing, so that horse has bolted already.
Re habs do have chips in them
In reply to Post #223
Okay, so what about native fish species that are being hammered up and down this country?
Certainly man made a huge impact on otters and pushed them to places like Scotland where they thrived and there was a natural balance between prey and predator. Now we have a situation whereby otters have been injected back into the food chain and are having a devastating effect on their surroundings with little to no forethought what-so-ever...full retard.
I suppose that once the easy pickings are stopped with fencing being erected, the buggers will starve and the numbers will decline. Just all a matter of time [shrug]. Wouldn't surprise me that some years down the line Bob Geldoff and Bono with do a Live Aid to save the furry critters and it'll be deemed racist by a load of blue haired crazies to put up fence's.
Okay, so what about native fish species that are being hammered up and down this country?
Certainly man made a huge impact on otters and pushed them to places like Scotland where they thrived and there was a natural balance between prey and predator. Now we have a situation whereby otters have been injected back into the food chain and are having a devastating effect on their surroundings with little to no forethought what-so-ever...full retard.
I suppose that once the easy pickings are stopped with fencing being erected, the buggers will starve and the numbers will decline. Just all a matter of time [shrug]. Wouldn't surprise me that some years down the line Bob Geldoff and Bono with do a Live Aid to save the furry critters and it'll be deemed racist by a load of blue haired crazies to put up fence's.
In reply to Post #227
Half a fence?
That's no good at all, especially if it's just the top half, from knee height up.
Half a fence?
That's no good at all, especially if it's just the top half, from knee height up.
In reply to Post #231
only what ive been told mate, so don't take it as gospel
half of fence no matter in length or height is a stupid thought. let alone plan...all that money, straight down the drain
only what ive been told mate, so don't take it as gospel
half of fence no matter in length or height is a stupid thought. let alone plan...all that money, straight down the drain
In reply to Post #229
Well there's your trouble
Already got chips in them so no wonder they're looking for fish. It's the great British dish after all....
Well there's your trouble
Already got chips in them so no wonder they're looking for fish. It's the great British dish after all....
In reply to Post #233
salt n vinegar too
salt n vinegar too
In reply to Post #231
lol
lol
In reply to Post #235
They've changed tack slightly, having a rock up BBQ. Gonna need to sell a crap load of burgers to build the fence!!!
They've changed tack slightly, having a rock up BBQ. Gonna need to sell a crap load of burgers to build the fence!!!
In reply to Post #232
I've been told the same Frenzy, part of a fence and a new stock pond so I hear.
I've been told the same Frenzy, part of a fence and a new stock pond so I hear.
In reply to Post #237
Otters exploit a whole in a fence, let alone half a job
Otters exploit a whole in a fence, let alone half a job
In reply to Post #205
Otters? First world problems. I had a Seal in my swim on the Trent Sunday night. Any chance of donations to put another weir in further downstream?
Otters? First world problems. I had a Seal in my swim on the Trent Sunday night. Any chance of donations to put another weir in further downstream?
In reply to Post #239
Did you get a picture? Is that a normal thing for the stretch you fish?
Did you get a picture? Is that a normal thing for the stretch you fish?