In reply to Post #225
100% with you..
100% with you..
In reply to Post #219
There were restrictions before, but as we were part of the EU the restrictions didn't apply to us bringing bait back from France etc.. They would have applied coming back from a non EU country though.
There were restrictions before, but as we were part of the EU the restrictions didn't apply to us bringing bait back from France etc.. They would have applied coming back from a non EU country though.
In reply to Post #225
Immigration was a key reason due to seeing the changes in European cities in the last five years. Far right fascist groups are on the rise, whereas in Britain they are declining. Why is that? Why do people travel through safe countries to make a new life in the UK? Why were Europeans arriving in Britain for 24 hours on the 30th of December to claim settlement? Why did we give 96% of applicants settlement status? We had 40k asylum claimants last year. Why didn't they want to stay in France or whichever port they arrived from? Why do they pay thousands to traffickers and forgers to circumnavigate the visa system to get here? Why do we have an agreement with Greece to not send back asylum seekers to them? For a racist xenophobic country, we certainly do far more than most.
It's not all about immigration, but under freedom of movement Europe has (in my opinion) became a fractured project which has resulted in the deaths of thousands of people and made Britain a breeding ground for exploitation by way of prostitution, modern slavery etc etc. Why is it such a bad idea that people that people need to prove they are here for genuine reasons? Why is protecting 16 year old Bulgarian girls from prostitution such a bad idea? Why is preventing a Romanian being exploited for £3 an hour at a car wash such a bad thing?
This "stole my freedom of movement" thing makes me laugh though. Yes, you had freedom of movement. If you fancy going over to work in Spain, what stopped you? Oh, probably because their unemployment rate is treble that of the UK's. Sod all there for the kids neither, hence why they are here "serving our coffee in pret" as one pretentious tart once said on Question Time.
We are not perfect, but to many within Europe and the rest of the world, we are a Utopia, and I would not want to live anywhere else on the planet than Britain, this completely tiny insignificant island(!) that everyone loves, apart from Brits themselves.
If you use a kilo of boilies as a hammer to batter someone who voted leave, then have a word with yourself.
Immigration was a key reason due to seeing the changes in European cities in the last five years. Far right fascist groups are on the rise, whereas in Britain they are declining. Why is that? Why do people travel through safe countries to make a new life in the UK? Why were Europeans arriving in Britain for 24 hours on the 30th of December to claim settlement? Why did we give 96% of applicants settlement status? We had 40k asylum claimants last year. Why didn't they want to stay in France or whichever port they arrived from? Why do they pay thousands to traffickers and forgers to circumnavigate the visa system to get here? Why do we have an agreement with Greece to not send back asylum seekers to them? For a racist xenophobic country, we certainly do far more than most.
It's not all about immigration, but under freedom of movement Europe has (in my opinion) became a fractured project which has resulted in the deaths of thousands of people and made Britain a breeding ground for exploitation by way of prostitution, modern slavery etc etc. Why is it such a bad idea that people that people need to prove they are here for genuine reasons? Why is protecting 16 year old Bulgarian girls from prostitution such a bad idea? Why is preventing a Romanian being exploited for £3 an hour at a car wash such a bad thing?
This "stole my freedom of movement" thing makes me laugh though. Yes, you had freedom of movement. If you fancy going over to work in Spain, what stopped you? Oh, probably because their unemployment rate is treble that of the UK's. Sod all there for the kids neither, hence why they are here "serving our coffee in pret" as one pretentious tart once said on Question Time.
We are not perfect, but to many within Europe and the rest of the world, we are a Utopia, and I would not want to live anywhere else on the planet than Britain, this completely tiny insignificant island(!) that everyone loves, apart from Brits themselves.
If you use a kilo of boilies as a hammer to batter someone who voted leave, then have a word with yourself.
In reply to Post #229
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I think the post is about taking bait to europe?
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I think the post is about taking bait to europe?
In reply to Post #230
It was in reply to post 228
Hence the 'In reply to Post #228' bit....
It was in reply to post 228
Hence the 'In reply to Post #228' bit....
In reply to Post #231
sorry jon, i ment to put " in reply to post 228"
sorry jon, i ment to put " in reply to post 228"
In reply to Post #232
Back on track .. anyone in the EU tried ordering bait from the UK yet?
Back on track .. anyone in the EU tried ordering bait from the UK yet?
In reply to Post #233
Just emailed Jonhnson Ross and Baitworks about delivery to germany. Keep you uptated
Just emailed Jonhnson Ross and Baitworks about delivery to germany. Keep you uptated
In reply to Post #233
I've talked to a lad from ABS but as they're not sure whats what right now and are currently closed due to obvious reasons, I'm getting back in touch mid Feb.
I think making actual bait orders are the last thing on most French lake owners minds at the moment, spending out on bait orders is not a good idea when we have no idea when British customers can make it over. Ordering bait from the UK in smaller quantities for personal use won't be feasible going forward I shouldn't think, there'll be too much admin and costs per order involved to bother with anything but large orders.
UK companies are being advised to open hubs on the continent so that they can ship over in bulk, which minimises costs and administration significantly, and then dispatch to EU customers from inside the EU. It seems like this should be the model for UK bait companies or possibly a business opportunity for a middle man who's got the money to invest into something like this, they could also offer a selection of British foods including meat ect. If I was based near the ports and had money burning a hole in the bank it's what I'd be thinking of doing!
I've talked to a lad from ABS but as they're not sure whats what right now and are currently closed due to obvious reasons, I'm getting back in touch mid Feb.
I think making actual bait orders are the last thing on most French lake owners minds at the moment, spending out on bait orders is not a good idea when we have no idea when British customers can make it over. Ordering bait from the UK in smaller quantities for personal use won't be feasible going forward I shouldn't think, there'll be too much admin and costs per order involved to bother with anything but large orders.
UK companies are being advised to open hubs on the continent so that they can ship over in bulk, which minimises costs and administration significantly, and then dispatch to EU customers from inside the EU. It seems like this should be the model for UK bait companies or possibly a business opportunity for a middle man who's got the money to invest into something like this, they could also offer a selection of British foods including meat ect. If I was based near the ports and had money burning a hole in the bank it's what I'd be thinking of doing!
A lake I fish in France used to get abs to ship out all of his bait in the past but most of the anglers used to take abs for cheaper than he sold it.
That's why he now gets his boilies either from Holland or Belgium
That's why he now gets his boilies either from Holland or Belgium
In reply to Post #235
Jimmy,
There was an article in the Telegraph today (yes them who supported Brexit) advising British companies who export to Europe regularly to open 'hubs' in Europe.
Let's think about that. Those who wax lyrical about the benefits of Brexit and promised "sunny uplands" and only positives of Brexit, are now publishing articles advising companies how to overcome an inevitable consequence of Brexit!
James O Brien on LBC (I know not everyones cup of tea) ran a phone in this very morning on the subject. He was inundated with calls from small business owners who were experiencing
problems with exports. Some were either closing or moving to EU. (there was a T-shirt supplier who makes promotional T-shirt and merchandise for bands on tour that was moving his entire operation to EU zone for example).
I suspect Mainline to be the first to to exactly this, after all they have adequate connections to have a distribution site in northern France /champagne area.
If you do the numbers it's worth doing (importing British bait, doing the paperwork then distributed in FRANCE) but... I suspect once this all dies down, anglers will take their chances on "smuggling" it in. It remains to be seen how French customs will deal with it. If they take a hard view, which they might, I can see many anglers vans being emptied at Dover just to check if bait is present or not, especially if some anglers start to smuggle. That will go down well! Loading my van takes bloody ages!
Jimmy,
There was an article in the Telegraph today (yes them who supported Brexit) advising British companies who export to Europe regularly to open 'hubs' in Europe.
Let's think about that. Those who wax lyrical about the benefits of Brexit and promised "sunny uplands" and only positives of Brexit, are now publishing articles advising companies how to overcome an inevitable consequence of Brexit!
James O Brien on LBC (I know not everyones cup of tea) ran a phone in this very morning on the subject. He was inundated with calls from small business owners who were experiencing
problems with exports. Some were either closing or moving to EU. (there was a T-shirt supplier who makes promotional T-shirt and merchandise for bands on tour that was moving his entire operation to EU zone for example).
I suspect Mainline to be the first to to exactly this, after all they have adequate connections to have a distribution site in northern France /champagne area.
If you do the numbers it's worth doing (importing British bait, doing the paperwork then distributed in FRANCE) but... I suspect once this all dies down, anglers will take their chances on "smuggling" it in. It remains to be seen how French customs will deal with it. If they take a hard view, which they might, I can see many anglers vans being emptied at Dover just to check if bait is present or not, especially if some anglers start to smuggle. That will go down well! Loading my van takes bloody ages!
Boilies will be more lucrative than cocaine or hash the way things are going 
In reply to Post #238
We'll be having rubber dinghies leaving the UK full of boilies
We'll be having rubber dinghies leaving the UK full of boilies
In reply to Post #239
Tag dinghy 😲😁
Tag dinghy 😲😁
In reply to Post #236
Lots bought it direct through ABS to bring here too, I never minded and weve always been pleased to recommend other alternative baits that work well too. The idea is to provide and promote a bait that catches well and is good for the fish, sales are a bonus and plenty of customers were more than happy to spend the extra to save on hassle or top up what they bought. We run a specimen carp lake not a bait shop!
Silverslayer... its a ludicrous state of affairs and as I've said before bait will be a drop in the ocean compared to the havoc being wrought on businesses as a whole.
I suspect your right regarding smuggling and a few friends have hinted that they won't be put off... its just a matter of time now to find out if the Douane are going to be strict.
Lots bought it direct through ABS to bring here too, I never minded and weve always been pleased to recommend other alternative baits that work well too. The idea is to provide and promote a bait that catches well and is good for the fish, sales are a bonus and plenty of customers were more than happy to spend the extra to save on hassle or top up what they bought. We run a specimen carp lake not a bait shop!
Silverslayer... its a ludicrous state of affairs and as I've said before bait will be a drop in the ocean compared to the havoc being wrought on businesses as a whole.
I suspect your right regarding smuggling and a few friends have hinted that they won't be put off... its just a matter of time now to find out if the Douane are going to be strict.