£700 billion triggered 12 years of austerity after the financial crash , funny how they have stopped blaming labour for it , who were about as much to blame as the Tory party are for covid .
By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over £ 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level , yet they have tried to say it's nothing to worry about , austerity has proven to be a failure Johnson admitted this prior to the last election , probably denies it now , the last time we had a debt anywhere near this was after the second world war luckily the economics of the tory's under Churchill were dropped and an Atlee government rescued us, an unbelievable achievement , full employment , millions of houses built and massive improvements to our infrastructure not to mention the creation of the NHS , National schemes , no bent donors to hoover up dodgy contracts at our expense , and now with Starmer sucking up to large corporations we are in a bad place , Starmer is pro Austerity , as he recently admitted , the death knell for an economy , as proven !
By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over £ 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level , yet they have tried to say it's nothing to worry about , austerity has proven to be a failure Johnson admitted this prior to the last election , probably denies it now , the last time we had a debt anywhere near this was after the second world war luckily the economics of the tory's under Churchill were dropped and an Atlee government rescued us, an unbelievable achievement , full employment , millions of houses built and massive improvements to our infrastructure not to mention the creation of the NHS , National schemes , no bent donors to hoover up dodgy contracts at our expense , and now with Starmer sucking up to large corporations we are in a bad place , Starmer is pro Austerity , as he recently admitted , the death knell for an economy , as proven !
In reply to Post #1710
It's very worrying watching the absolute incompetence and corruption on a daily basis , these people are making a mess as they shape our country and create trade treaties around the world ,how much are they feathering their nests as they do this , Dianne Abbot was famous for making a mess and attacked daily for it by our "not fit for purpose " press , yet nearly all of Boris's front bench are no better , in fact the majority are worse , at least she tried and she was honest !
If it was a football club , Boris would be out by now , we would be bottom of the league !
And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !
Edit , the most important document post wwII was given a few hours to be scrutinized before being passed in parliament or else we wouldn't of had a deal , a deal which is claimed to be worse than Theresa May's , Boris has admitted not reading it , any of it ! the whole thing was blown out of all proportion and used as a tool to win the last election , they never gave a flying fu** about Brexit , they just whipped up the deluded nationalistic ideology of the masses , works every time !
Pants down !
It's very worrying watching the absolute incompetence and corruption on a daily basis , these people are making a mess as they shape our country and create trade treaties around the world ,how much are they feathering their nests as they do this , Dianne Abbot was famous for making a mess and attacked daily for it by our "not fit for purpose " press , yet nearly all of Boris's front bench are no better , in fact the majority are worse , at least she tried and she was honest !
If it was a football club , Boris would be out by now , we would be bottom of the league !
And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !
Edit , the most important document post wwII was given a few hours to be scrutinized before being passed in parliament or else we wouldn't of had a deal , a deal which is claimed to be worse than Theresa May's , Boris has admitted not reading it , any of it ! the whole thing was blown out of all proportion and used as a tool to win the last election , they never gave a flying fu** about Brexit , they just whipped up the deluded nationalistic ideology of the masses , works every time !
Pants down !
In reply to Post #1710
No scozza. We really don't (spend enough on social care)
It's just a few months back that boris gave 1.2 billion to keep transport for London going til the end of the year. That's one single business in one single city.
Imagine a yearly investment of that amount for social care. Or to tackle food poverty. Just imagine. ...
No scozza. We really don't (spend enough on social care)
It's just a few months back that boris gave 1.2 billion to keep transport for London going til the end of the year. That's one single business in one single city.
Imagine a yearly investment of that amount for social care. Or to tackle food poverty. Just imagine. ...
In reply to Post #1710
Did you know £120 billion is not collected in taxes from the rich annually?
Why on earth should the normal working man having a tax increase imposed upon them whilst HMRC fail to do their job and collect the correct tax from the wealthy?
But then, I suppose they'll never be instructed to by a Tory government, and when JC said he'd go collect it, look what happened
**** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening.
End of the day, it makes more sense to go collect the £120 billion than it does to make people that work hard and pay their taxes like good citizens pay more to cover the debts?
Did you know £120 billion is not collected in taxes from the rich annually?
Why on earth should the normal working man having a tax increase imposed upon them whilst HMRC fail to do their job and collect the correct tax from the wealthy?
But then, I suppose they'll never be instructed to by a Tory government, and when JC said he'd go collect it, look what happened
**** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening. End of the day, it makes more sense to go collect the £120 billion than it does to make people that work hard and pay their taxes like good citizens pay more to cover the debts?
In reply to Post #1714
very good point - we could start with the likes of Amazon / Starbucks etc. - the huge mutinationals who have been taking the P for ages
then all those 'non domicile' business owners and millionaires ...
relying on tax increases from the working masses to pay back the debt is ridiculous. If everyone on the average wage gave 50% of their earnings it would still take decades...
very good point - we could start with the likes of Amazon / Starbucks etc. - the huge mutinationals who have been taking the P for ages
then all those 'non domicile' business owners and millionaires ...
relying on tax increases from the working masses to pay back the debt is ridiculous. If everyone on the average wage gave 50% of their earnings it would still take decades...
I'm finding it hard to understand the logic behind .
£700 billion in 2008 = massive problem and 12 years of austerity
£3 trillion in 2021 = nothing to worry about
£700 billion in 2008 = massive problem and 12 years of austerity
£3 trillion in 2021 = nothing to worry about
In reply to Post #1714
And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !
we will never know.......I reckon the Lib dems would have done even better than all of them......
**** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening.
He would have soon realised Corp power is harder to unravel and tax then simply stating it!!
And yes , i'm 100% sure that Corbyn would of done a better job and we would have less death's and less death's !
we will never know.......I reckon the Lib dems would have done even better than all of them......
**** themselves and did everything they could to stop it happening.
He would have soon realised Corp power is harder to unravel and tax then simply stating it!!
In reply to Post #1711
By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over £ 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level
So much for austerity 
It's a total and utter mess and we expect a bunch of muppets to sort it out. Pray for the day when a proper leader comes along and says, STOP, this does not work
Wonder what we can ditch first under these buffoons, NHS has got to go
By the time covid is over i reckon we will have a national debt of over £ 3 trillion which is over 4 x the 2008 debt level
So much for austerity
It's a total and utter mess and we expect a bunch of muppets to sort it out. Pray for the day when a proper leader comes along and says, STOP, this does not work
Wonder what we can ditch first under these buffoons, NHS has got to go
In reply to Post #1718
you really want to ditch the NHS? are you doing a sarcasm there?
you really want to ditch the NHS? are you doing a sarcasm there?
In reply to Post #1713
We really don't (spend enough on social care)
I don't know the exact debt but G mentioned 3 trillion!!!
Serious cuts over the last 10 years, virtually nothing in the pot Mal, there will be more cuts across the board no options, that's as well as tax increases and god knows what else they can sell off
I would like to know what the interest on that is a day
We really don't (spend enough on social care)
I don't know the exact debt but G mentioned 3 trillion!!!
Serious cuts over the last 10 years, virtually nothing in the pot Mal, there will be more cuts across the board no options, that's as well as tax increases and god knows what else they can sell off
I would like to know what the interest on that is a day
In reply to Post #1719
What I am saying is, that's what they will be looking at next the useless ****s
What I am saying is, that's what they will be looking at next the useless ****s
And less deaths = economic hit , had to get down to my local market before it closed , tiger prawns @ 1.5 kg for £10 , fried with Chorizo sausage ,followed by crispy duck pancakes , Large duck for £5 , hmmm ,couple of beers , nice bottle of plonk then whiskey hmmm
In reply to Post #1721
The tory's know that for everything that is privatized = less chance of Labour getting back in power
The tory's know that for everything that is privatized = less chance of Labour getting back in power
In reply to Post #1721
ah yeah I see
luckily I think the demise of Trump might have put paid to that particular cash cow - but I wouldn't put it past them to still try - bunch of
s....
and i agree - the pot is empty. but it's much emptier for some whilst other still seem to be able to take from it. it's about priorities, and as always it's those with the greater need who don't have the power / voice to initiate the change. God only knows how we will emerge from this mess - but you can guarantee the 'haves' will still end up with more than the 'have nots'
we need a huge change in mindset. but it would involve people putting others first and that's in very short supply
'need before greed' - that's my election manifesto. Vote Mal
ah yeah I see
luckily I think the demise of Trump might have put paid to that particular cash cow - but I wouldn't put it past them to still try - bunch of
s....and i agree - the pot is empty. but it's much emptier for some whilst other still seem to be able to take from it. it's about priorities, and as always it's those with the greater need who don't have the power / voice to initiate the change. God only knows how we will emerge from this mess - but you can guarantee the 'haves' will still end up with more than the 'have nots'
we need a huge change in mindset. but it would involve people putting others first and that's in very short supply
'need before greed' - that's my election manifesto. Vote Mal
In reply to Post #1724
yep , not looking good .
Thank God we have shut our borders down , iv'e heard that there is a nasty virus ravaging the world , thanks for the foresight of our great leader , we would be fu**ed without him !
yep , not looking good .
Thank God we have shut our borders down , iv'e heard that there is a nasty virus ravaging the world , thanks for the foresight of our great leader , we would be fu**ed without him !