I'd be surprised if Mouldy is willing to contribute to a fence as he'd rather backfill it being the owner of a reclamation company
In reply to Post #150
history
noun
the whole series of past events connected with a particular person or thing.
history
noun
the whole series of past events connected with a particular person or thing.
In reply to Post #152
But isn't that all a bit ambiguous and rather subjective? Like I mentioned before, the Spitfire common, hasn't that got history? How long does this "history" have to be to be deemed more worthy?
For some, catching the last remaining of the original stocking at Redmire would surpass the common at Burghfield, you only have to read the posts on the Traditional Angler with them cry w**king about it. Maybe for you and others like you, catching a possible 60lb common is like so *the one*, though, as I've alluded to, it's all very much subjective and open to interpretation, is it not?
But isn't that all a bit ambiguous and rather subjective? Like I mentioned before, the Spitfire common, hasn't that got history? How long does this "history" have to be to be deemed more worthy?
For some, catching the last remaining of the original stocking at Redmire would surpass the common at Burghfield, you only have to read the posts on the Traditional Angler with them cry w**king about it. Maybe for you and others like you, catching a possible 60lb common is like so *the one*, though, as I've alluded to, it's all very much subjective and open to interpretation, is it not?
In reply to Post #142
When you look at how much we all spend on gear -if we had a 5% charge and it went to a fighting fund to help fence all lakes - the most vulnerable first until all done.
1, you would get more takers if they paid their money (Say £50-100) towards the fund, and the anglers would get say X days or nights fishing on any lake that they help to fence it securely, bigger the donation, the more fishing they would be allowed to have..
2, Put £1 -5 on the cost of a rod licence and put that into a fencing fund/pool, same again anyone can fish it who has a valid rod licence.
obviously the rivers and canals would miss out logistically impossible to fence and secure.
When you look at how much we all spend on gear -if we had a 5% charge and it went to a fighting fund to help fence all lakes - the most vulnerable first until all done.
1, you would get more takers if they paid their money (Say £50-100) towards the fund, and the anglers would get say X days or nights fishing on any lake that they help to fence it securely, bigger the donation, the more fishing they would be allowed to have..
2, Put £1 -5 on the cost of a rod licence and put that into a fencing fund/pool, same again anyone can fish it who has a valid rod licence.
obviously the rivers and canals would miss out logistically impossible to fence and secure.
In reply to Post #154
Good idea mate.
There are pitfalls of course, like the upkeep of fence's etc, though I do agree with your sentiments.
Good idea mate.
There are pitfalls of course, like the upkeep of fence's etc, though I do agree with your sentiments.
In reply to Post #151
Back filling could be a long term plan if not financially viable or the yearly income becomes diminishing to upkeep costs....who knows for sure.
Only that one freak of nature, the common, is the main attraction for most who has a ticket, or want one.
Would they still pay that money to fish it, without that common being in there, I doubt it
Back filling could be a long term plan if not financially viable or the yearly income becomes diminishing to upkeep costs....who knows for sure.
Only that one freak of nature, the common, is the main attraction for most who has a ticket, or want one.
Would they still pay that money to fish it, without that common being in there, I doubt it
In reply to Post #153
it's all very much subjective and open to interpretation, is it not?
It certainly is. You can fish for milky white mud sucking stock fish or you can fish for the survivors of an era, king of the pond naturally, not artificially. The choice is yours. That's a debate in itself isn't it, try the search button
it's all very much subjective and open to interpretation, is it not?
It certainly is. You can fish for milky white mud sucking stock fish or you can fish for the survivors of an era, king of the pond naturally, not artificially. The choice is yours. That's a debate in itself isn't it, try the search button
In reply to Post #157
Think you might have me confused with someone who fishes The Rise?
Think you might have me confused with someone who fishes The Rise?
In reply to Post #146
It was actually Terry's capture which showed that the fish was a female. Most thought it was male until then.
It was actually Terry's capture which showed that the fish was a female. Most thought it was male until then.
In reply to Post #153
Agreed, all ambiguous and subjective....that's the whole point!
If it was all down to pounds and ounces then it would be a different conversation altogether. Just look at the captors of the Burghfield common, there some proper, proper anglers on that list....not necessarily big names, but quality anglers.
Agreed, all ambiguous and subjective....that's the whole point!
If it was all down to pounds and ounces then it would be a different conversation altogether. Just look at the captors of the Burghfield common, there some proper, proper anglers on that list....not necessarily big names, but quality anglers.
Make one of the main lakes bays exclusive booking like the blue pool. Based on the same rates as blue pool they would have their 100k in just over a year 👍🏻
Or is the thought of a unknown angler catching the BC worse than it getting killed by otters 😂
Or is the thought of a unknown angler catching the BC worse than it getting killed by otters 😂
In reply to Post #146
The spitfire common doesn't have any history though does it?
The spitfire common doesn't have any history though does it?
In reply to Post #162
If the BC means that much to everyone why not move it to somewhere safe after its next capture and let it see out its retirement in peace rather than being chased around for the rest of its days....must be about 45 - 50 years old now so probably not got that long left...
If the BC means that much to everyone why not move it to somewhere safe after its next capture and let it see out its retirement in peace rather than being chased around for the rest of its days....must be about 45 - 50 years old now so probably not got that long left...
In reply to Post #162
You lot keep banging on about muh "history". Just an arbitrary notion.
Of course the Spitfire common has a history. It's not like it went from 0 to 50lb+ over the course of this conversation and has never been caught, is it?
You lot keep banging on about muh "history". Just an arbitrary notion.
Of course the Spitfire common has a history. It's not like it went from 0 to 50lb+ over the course of this conversation and has never been caught, is it?
In reply to Post #164
OK let's look at the history shall we.
The Wood Common.
Stocked into an un-fished, hand-fed 1 acre pond by RW and left 100% free from angling pressure until it reached nearly 50 lb. RW then caught it before opening the pond up to anglers 10 years ago.
The BC.
I don't even know when it was stocked or by whom but it swam with some of the finest genuine Leneys in the country, in a 90 acre pit that was pioneered by the likes of Kenny Hodder. It was caught back in the 1980's at mid twenties but it was in the 1990's that those in the know began to take notice. Even then, it wasn't until the late 90's/early 00's when it hit 40+ that it became big news. By the mid 00's it had grown to a massive 57 lb, the biggest proper English common carp the country had ever seen. All these years later the fish remains so with a biggest weight of 62 odd.
Now they are both absolutely class fish, and both very, very hard to catch by all accounts. But if we're talking about history (which I agree is subjective), for me, there is just no comparison at all.
OK let's look at the history shall we.
The Wood Common.
Stocked into an un-fished, hand-fed 1 acre pond by RW and left 100% free from angling pressure until it reached nearly 50 lb. RW then caught it before opening the pond up to anglers 10 years ago.
The BC.
I don't even know when it was stocked or by whom but it swam with some of the finest genuine Leneys in the country, in a 90 acre pit that was pioneered by the likes of Kenny Hodder. It was caught back in the 1980's at mid twenties but it was in the 1990's that those in the know began to take notice. Even then, it wasn't until the late 90's/early 00's when it hit 40+ that it became big news. By the mid 00's it had grown to a massive 57 lb, the biggest proper English common carp the country had ever seen. All these years later the fish remains so with a biggest weight of 62 odd.
Now they are both absolutely class fish, and both very, very hard to catch by all accounts. But if we're talking about history (which I agree is subjective), for me, there is just no comparison at all.