Convicted by a court of his peers and sentenced to jail Trump steps in and commutes the sentence of his mate Stone. He broke the law but won't face punishment. Banana Republic stuff.
Is it me or does anyone else see so much fake news come out of the MAGA camp...which incidentally believe everything is fake news if it doesn't fit their agenda.
Latest one is a protestor that has been left blind in his right eye after taking a direct hit from a tear gas canister from close range. He put a selfie of him in a hospital bed and the photo has been put side by side with a photo taken of him in the street directly after the incident with the caption “which eye?”, a claim that it's not real and the eye has changed side in a continuity error.
I don't think they are clever enough to realise a front facing camera on a phone flips the picture
Latest one is a protestor that has been left blind in his right eye after taking a direct hit from a tear gas canister from close range. He put a selfie of him in a hospital bed and the photo has been put side by side with a photo taken of him in the street directly after the incident with the caption “which eye?”, a claim that it's not real and the eye has changed side in a continuity error.
I don't think they are clever enough to realise a front facing camera on a phone flips the picture
Regarding Leicester sweatshops
People not calling it out for fear of being called racist. A similar reason to why the Asian grooming/abuse scandal went unnoticed?
This is where trying to be anti racist is wrong.
People not calling it out for fear of being called racist. A similar reason to why the Asian grooming/abuse scandal went unnoticed?
This is where trying to be anti racist is wrong.
In reply to Post #153
A few people and shareholders making a lot of money on the back of modern slavery manufacturing conditions is more likely the reason.
A few people and shareholders making a lot of money on the back of modern slavery manufacturing conditions is more likely the reason.
In reply to Post #148
I am lucky to live in a street that still has that sense of community. local pub with a proper old school feel about it. neighbours who look out for each other. all the kids play out on the field / park out the back. my cat gets fed in at least 2 other houses!
Same as and very nice to. Lots of communitys are now so diverse that its simply not possible for one reason or another...........
I am lucky to live in a street that still has that sense of community. local pub with a proper old school feel about it. neighbours who look out for each other. all the kids play out on the field / park out the back. my cat gets fed in at least 2 other houses!
Same as and very nice to. Lots of communitys are now so diverse that its simply not possible for one reason or another...........
In reply to Post #153
Gaslighting rubbish from the Home Secretary. Minimum wage enforcement is the job of HMRC not the council or police. How many prosecutions have there been for paying under the minimum wage? Why isn't she calling out the Treasury for inaction?
They knew. Even one of their local MPs (Andrew Bridgen) is on record saying the sweatshops are a national disgrace. Many investigations by the media have highlighted the problem to the government. A select committee's recommendations were all refused by government.
She is trying to deflect.
Gaslighting rubbish from the Home Secretary. Minimum wage enforcement is the job of HMRC not the council or police. How many prosecutions have there been for paying under the minimum wage? Why isn't she calling out the Treasury for inaction?
They knew. Even one of their local MPs (Andrew Bridgen) is on record saying the sweatshops are a national disgrace. Many investigations by the media have highlighted the problem to the government. A select committee's recommendations were all refused by government.
She is trying to deflect.
In reply to Post #155
Doesn't get much more diverse than round here so clearly that's not a problem for everyone...
Tinhead - pritti Patel making the same suggestion that you did. I still don't buy it tbh. More likely a police force not able to operate effectively after the huge cuts made by her party? Or just ineffective action all round?
And as I said, there are people of all backgrounds being exploited in these places so protecting them could hardly be see as discriminatory. Playing devils advocate - One could suggest that they might have done more if it wasn't BAME workers being exploited....
The important thing is that it's finally addressed and dealt with. Maybe then look at the other areas where business owners knowingly swerve the employment rules. Builders paying EU lads cash in hand so they can pay less and avoid NI etc. Restaurant and take away owners paying way less than minimum wage. There's too much of it about.
Doesn't get much more diverse than round here so clearly that's not a problem for everyone...
Tinhead - pritti Patel making the same suggestion that you did. I still don't buy it tbh. More likely a police force not able to operate effectively after the huge cuts made by her party? Or just ineffective action all round?
And as I said, there are people of all backgrounds being exploited in these places so protecting them could hardly be see as discriminatory. Playing devils advocate - One could suggest that they might have done more if it wasn't BAME workers being exploited....
The important thing is that it's finally addressed and dealt with. Maybe then look at the other areas where business owners knowingly swerve the employment rules. Builders paying EU lads cash in hand so they can pay less and avoid NI etc. Restaurant and take away owners paying way less than minimum wage. There's too much of it about.
In reply to Post #157
The police aren't the agency that enforce minimum wage legislation.
The police aren't the agency that enforce minimum wage legislation.
In reply to Post #156
My point wasn't about minimum wage but something much more general. A culture of not wanting to meddle in certain mis-doings in case they are accused of racism.
My point wasn't about minimum wage but something much more general. A culture of not wanting to meddle in certain mis-doings in case they are accused of racism.
In reply to Post #157
So If the police were fully funded they'd be able to concentrate on such things? No because they'd be accused on racism.
Fully agree with black market labour but surprised you acknowledge that EU's are culprits. I would like to see it stamped out whoever is doing it.
Edit
Just remembered I'm talking to a very limited audience on this thread so I guess we'll never agree
So If the police were fully funded they'd be able to concentrate on such things? No because they'd be accused on racism.
Fully agree with black market labour but surprised you acknowledge that EU's are culprits. I would like to see it stamped out whoever is doing it.
Edit
Just remembered I'm talking to a very limited audience on this thread so I guess we'll never agree
In reply to Post #158
Yeah sorry. Generalising in response to the Patel comment about Police.
Yeah sorry. Generalising in response to the Patel comment about Police.
In reply to Post #159
The link in your post is chock-full of references to exploitation and the minimum wage. What evidence is there of anyone not wanting to meddle other than that of government not enforcing their own legislation?
The EU workers aren't the culprits, they are being exploited.
The link in your post is chock-full of references to exploitation and the minimum wage. What evidence is there of anyone not wanting to meddle other than that of government not enforcing their own legislation?
The EU workers aren't the culprits, they are being exploited.
In reply to Post #160
Read what I wrote again fella. I said EU workers were being exploited. The opposite of me calling them culprits.
My view of the police is that they deal in proof and fact where possible. If a person is suspected guilty, whatever their background, age, gender or favourite bloody tv show, then they will be investigated and if evidence supports it, they will be charged. Saying they don't because they would be accused of being racist is just a cop out (no pun intended).
Besides, there are enough examples of the police doing things on a daily basis that question intent due to racial profiling and that doesn't seem to stop them does it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53359269
and by way of balance - getting it right
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/09/serving-met-police-officer-charged-member-far-right-terror-group-12970013/?ito=push-notification&ci=22142&si=9412819
Read what I wrote again fella. I said EU workers were being exploited. The opposite of me calling them culprits.
My view of the police is that they deal in proof and fact where possible. If a person is suspected guilty, whatever their background, age, gender or favourite bloody tv show, then they will be investigated and if evidence supports it, they will be charged. Saying they don't because they would be accused of being racist is just a cop out (no pun intended).
Besides, there are enough examples of the police doing things on a daily basis that question intent due to racial profiling and that doesn't seem to stop them does it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53359269
and by way of balance - getting it right
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/09/serving-met-police-officer-charged-member-far-right-terror-group-12970013/?ito=push-notification&ci=22142&si=9412819
In reply to Post #153
Bit of a double edged sword. The vast majority of these employees won't be employable in any other job and the company (who contribute whatever tax the accountant can't fiddle) won't survive on the profit margins paying minimum wage would leave them. So the government are left with X amount of people on the dole (still working cash in hand) and dried up tax revenue.
Not condoning it, but action could technically put more people into deeper poverty than turning a blind eye.
As usual, the poor get poorer
Haven't heard much from Tommy the tit on this, isn't specifically Islam related I suppose
Bit of a double edged sword. The vast majority of these employees won't be employable in any other job and the company (who contribute whatever tax the accountant can't fiddle) won't survive on the profit margins paying minimum wage would leave them. So the government are left with X amount of people on the dole (still working cash in hand) and dried up tax revenue.
Not condoning it, but action could technically put more people into deeper poverty than turning a blind eye.
As usual, the poor get poorer
Haven't heard much from Tommy the tit on this, isn't specifically Islam related I suppose
In reply to Post #163
EU workers being exploited don't make me laugh they want to work for cash in hand. Some of you lot really live in a different world.
Anyone want to comment on the comparison to the blind eye taken on the Asian grooming/abuse?
My point being not calling out for fear racism is wrong which was the real point I was trying to make before it was taken off course.
Actually don't bother I've heard enough for today.
EU workers being exploited don't make me laugh they want to work for cash in hand. Some of you lot really live in a different world.
Anyone want to comment on the comparison to the blind eye taken on the Asian grooming/abuse?
My point being not calling out for fear racism is wrong which was the real point I was trying to make before it was taken off course.
Actually don't bother I've heard enough for today.