In reply to Post #1618
Bragging about it shows the frame of mind you have. Just saying.
You're comparing yourself and your actions to a police officer... who isn't meant to lose their head and attempt to kill someone. Self defence or not. In fact laws in this country say self defence only goes as far as stopping someone harming you. Beating an unconscious person further means you are beyond the defence of it being self defence and you'd be arrested for it
Bragging about it shows the frame of mind you have. Just saying.
You're comparing yourself and your actions to a police officer... who isn't meant to lose their head and attempt to kill someone. Self defence or not. In fact laws in this country say self defence only goes as far as stopping someone harming you. Beating an unconscious person further means you are beyond the defence of it being self defence and you'd be arrested for it
In reply to Post #1621
Funnily though I wasn't hey as they said I had handled it correctly.I know my limits and when to stop and what is acceptable.I can not stand people who stamp or hit someone whilst they are on the ground.Where in my post did I say the attacker was unconscious or I was hitting them whilst on the ground.You just love twisting things to stir up ****.What would you do in that situation then
Funnily though I wasn't hey as they said I had handled it correctly.I know my limits and when to stop and what is acceptable.I can not stand people who stamp or hit someone whilst they are on the ground.Where in my post did I say the attacker was unconscious or I was hitting them whilst on the ground.You just love twisting things to stir up ****.What would you do in that situation then
In reply to Post #1620
If the training is inadequate then that's the fault of the police force. They should be trained properly so they don't lose their heads and disregard their code of conduct and professionalism. Not quite sure what your distain for the poor training of police officers does to help your point though?
If I remember correctly your missus is plod, ask her for her code of conduct and all other paperwork about what they can and can't do. Pretty sure they are expected to uphold professionalism and if they don't they get reprimanded, as anyone in any job does. If this policeman is now suspended then his superiors think he did something wrong and didn't do his job properly. Regardless of what you think.
If the training is inadequate then that's the fault of the police force. They should be trained properly so they don't lose their heads and disregard their code of conduct and professionalism. Not quite sure what your distain for the poor training of police officers does to help your point though?
If I remember correctly your missus is plod, ask her for her code of conduct and all other paperwork about what they can and can't do. Pretty sure they are expected to uphold professionalism and if they don't they get reprimanded, as anyone in any job does. If this policeman is now suspended then his superiors think he did something wrong and didn't do his job properly. Regardless of what you think.
In reply to Post #1622
Clearly not considering you had to be dragged off of him.
As you said yourself.
So you didn't handle it correctly, your friend stopped you going too far.
I'd probably do what I did when I had a knife pulled on me...and not brag about it on a carp forum In the future
Clearly not considering you had to be dragged off of him.
As you said yourself. So you didn't handle it correctly, your friend stopped you going too far.
I'd probably do what I did when I had a knife pulled on me...and not brag about it on a carp forum In the future
In reply to Post #1615
Yeah I think I've read some of his posts on here...
Yeah I think I've read some of his posts on here...
In reply to Post #1625
Me and the guy that took me in had a chuckle. I asked the lad if he meant doing impressions because he failed at fighting just one of them the first time round
All jokes aside, it's an unpleasant time to be a copper.. or a human being for that matter link
Me and the guy that took me in had a chuckle. I asked the lad if he meant doing impressions because he failed at fighting just one of them the first time round
All jokes aside, it's an unpleasant time to be a copper.. or a human being for that matter link
In reply to Post #1624
Sorry did not realise you get to determine what is right and wrong now in the eyes of the law.I don't think a plastic knife in the school canteen counts though.
Sorry did not realise you get to determine what is right and wrong now in the eyes of the law.I don't think a plastic knife in the school canteen counts though.
In reply to Post #1623
The point is, contrary to your believes, they don't get much training
Which is why I asked you initially, how you would deal with it?
What would you do, run off?
You know, for example, 10 stone uni student with no life experience deals with 16 stone raging nutter, yer, er, can you stop that please
What you think happens, does not happen
For the record. That **** was smack outside a police van (no respect for the law) and he decided to run across the road and chin the victim and lift him off his feet before leaving him unconscious which at that point the police intervened
The point is, contrary to your believes, they don't get much training
Which is why I asked you initially, how you would deal with it?
What would you do, run off?
You know, for example, 10 stone uni student with no life experience deals with 16 stone raging nutter, yer, er, can you stop that please
What you think happens, does not happen
For the record. That **** was smack outside a police van (no respect for the law) and he decided to run across the road and chin the victim and lift him off his feet before leaving him unconscious which at that point the police intervened
In reply to Post #1627
No no. You said it yourself. Your mate pulled you off him otherwise “it would have ended badly for my attacker”. You then claimed to know your limits (clearly not as your friend had to pull you off) and got told you were fine to do what you did (what you did until your friend pulled you off, what you would have done if your friend hadnt from what you described as ending badly, sounds as if it would have been beyond what is deemed acceptable)
All your own words. Nothing about me determining anything.
So why are you talking about your experience with a kids spoon then
No no. You said it yourself. Your mate pulled you off him otherwise “it would have ended badly for my attacker”. You then claimed to know your limits (clearly not as your friend had to pull you off) and got told you were fine to do what you did (what you did until your friend pulled you off, what you would have done if your friend hadnt from what you described as ending badly, sounds as if it would have been beyond what is deemed acceptable)
All your own words. Nothing about me determining anything.
So why are you talking about your experience with a kids spoon then
In reply to Post #1629
I would give it up mate. Your out of touch with the real world, or I will say, as I know it
I would give it up mate. Your out of touch with the real world, or I will say, as I know it
In reply to Post #1628
As I said, he's suspended so he clearly didn't do his job properly. Otherwise he wouldn't be. Regardless of what crimes been committed the police don't serve the justice, they apprehend criminals so the justice can be served in a court of law. That's how it works apparently in this country.
I already said what id do, parva, taser or sweep the legs for a takedown or a noj said, a baton to the knee to drop them. Get my fellow officer who is also there to help restrain and arrest. But then it doesn't matter what I'd do, because it's not about me is it.
I never said I think they get loads of training. Just that their training and guidance means they know their code of conduct which they have to follow or face disciplinary action.
As I said, he's suspended so he clearly didn't do his job properly. Otherwise he wouldn't be. Regardless of what crimes been committed the police don't serve the justice, they apprehend criminals so the justice can be served in a court of law. That's how it works apparently in this country.
I already said what id do, parva, taser or sweep the legs for a takedown or a noj said, a baton to the knee to drop them. Get my fellow officer who is also there to help restrain and arrest. But then it doesn't matter what I'd do, because it's not about me is it.
I never said I think they get loads of training. Just that their training and guidance means they know their code of conduct which they have to follow or face disciplinary action.
In reply to Post #1630
It's brader's world. His words.
Sorry that you know everything about everything and no one else does
It's brader's world. His words.
Sorry that you know everything about everything and no one else does
some of you might want to read this ... police code of ethics. Minimum force necessary....nothing to make the public lose trust in the police force.... a few more that this incident probably has this officer making his case for.
In reply to Post #1631
If the incident is being investigated he has to be suspended whilst the investigation takes place
If the incident is being investigated he has to be suspended whilst the investigation takes place
In reply to Post #1632
Be nice if I did
I'm posting what I know, how about you?
You have raised a good point though, the training is extremely poor
Be nice if I did
I'm posting what I know, how about you?
You have raised a good point though, the training is extremely poor