In reply to Post #1499
I already explained that saying black lives matter doesn't mean that others don't. Flip it on its head scozza. If all lives do matter then black lives do. If you can't - or choose not to - say it then perhaps there's another underlying issue. Only you know that.
As for the homeless, is it all homeless lives that matter? Just curious because when it was suggested that the 300000 people who in a few seconds found themselves homeless in beirut could use some help, you suggested that I should sell up and go over there to help (not the first time you've resorted to the 'if you love him so much why don't you just marry him' pish). That being your philosophy, will you be opening up your spare bedrooms to house a couple of homeless people in Sheffield? Or are you selling up completely to donate a lump sum to Shelter.
What about the black homeless? Or is that simply their own fault for not working hard enough.
If all lives matter then surely you'll be keen to find out why those pesky people in boats are risking life and limb to cross the channel. Perhaps they found themselves in a position where they had lost everything. Their lives do matter right? They're are all somebody's children after all ... perhaps there was an option in front of them And they took it.
I don't need calling out for being passionate about a positive movement. You are right that it is very important to me and you also know why.
If tackling the homeless issue is important to you then more power to you. Get involved. Volunteer at your local shelter. Give a little bit every month. Maybe you already do and fair play to you.
I could go on but I'm not interested in a tit for tat.
Have a good day man
I already explained that saying black lives matter doesn't mean that others don't. Flip it on its head scozza. If all lives do matter then black lives do. If you can't - or choose not to - say it then perhaps there's another underlying issue. Only you know that.
As for the homeless, is it all homeless lives that matter? Just curious because when it was suggested that the 300000 people who in a few seconds found themselves homeless in beirut could use some help, you suggested that I should sell up and go over there to help (not the first time you've resorted to the 'if you love him so much why don't you just marry him' pish). That being your philosophy, will you be opening up your spare bedrooms to house a couple of homeless people in Sheffield? Or are you selling up completely to donate a lump sum to Shelter.
What about the black homeless? Or is that simply their own fault for not working hard enough.
If all lives matter then surely you'll be keen to find out why those pesky people in boats are risking life and limb to cross the channel. Perhaps they found themselves in a position where they had lost everything. Their lives do matter right? They're are all somebody's children after all ... perhaps there was an option in front of them And they took it.
I don't need calling out for being passionate about a positive movement. You are right that it is very important to me and you also know why.
If tackling the homeless issue is important to you then more power to you. Get involved. Volunteer at your local shelter. Give a little bit every month. Maybe you already do and fair play to you.
I could go on but I'm not interested in a tit for tat.
Have a good day man
In reply to Post #1499
ALM - even terrorists, paedophiles, rapists and murderers??
Why do you feel they should be on equal standing to everyone else?
ALM - even terrorists, paedophiles, rapists and murderers??
Why do you feel they should be on equal standing to everyone else?
In reply to Post #1502
Personally I'd like to see them strung up but as we are not allowed to execute them I suppose some feel their lives do matter?
Personally I'd like to see them strung up but as we are not allowed to execute them I suppose some feel their lives do matter?
In reply to Post #1503
Are you not an ALM supporter then tinhead?
Are you not an ALM supporter then tinhead?
In reply to Post #1504
I can't say 100% as I don't include terrorists, paedophiles, rapists and murderers but if I can exclude them then generally the answer is yes
I can't say 100% as I don't include terrorists, paedophiles, rapists and murderers but if I can exclude them then generally the answer is yes
In reply to Post #1505
So no then.
This is the fatal flaw with the argument for ALM not BLM I guess.
That and not understanding that BLM means black lives matter too, not matter more of course.
So no then.
This is the fatal flaw with the argument for ALM not BLM I guess.
That and not understanding that BLM means black lives matter too, not matter more of course.
In reply to Post #1506
Let me ask you the same question
ALM - even terrorists, paedophiles, rapists and murderers??
Why do you feel they should be on equal standing to everyone else?
Let me ask you the same question
ALM - even terrorists, paedophiles, rapists and murderers??
Why do you feel they should be on equal standing to everyone else?
In reply to Post #1507
Why? I've never said I'm for ALM over other causes.
Why? I've never said I'm for ALM over other causes.
In reply to Post #1508
That answer doesn't clarify, it's a bit cryptic. You say you were never 'for' so are we to assume your are 'against' ALM in other causes.
Not a problem though, let's just leave it there.
That answer doesn't clarify, it's a bit cryptic. You say you were never 'for' so are we to assume your are 'against' ALM in other causes.
Not a problem though, let's just leave it there.
In reply to Post #1509
No, I just wasn't shouting ALM at the BLM movement. I am able to see issues and causes and differentiate between them without trying to cluster everything in to one movement. Hence saying why are you asking me because I never supported the ALM movement, ask scozza as he does.
I will clarify though, all lives don't matter to me because I don't think anyone guilty of the crimes I described below and various others should be treated equally to others. They should have some if not all of their human rights taken away, luckily we have a justice system for this (even if it fails a lot)
No, I just wasn't shouting ALM at the BLM movement. I am able to see issues and causes and differentiate between them without trying to cluster everything in to one movement. Hence saying why are you asking me because I never supported the ALM movement, ask scozza as he does.
I will clarify though, all lives don't matter to me because I don't think anyone guilty of the crimes I described below and various others should be treated equally to others. They should have some if not all of their human rights taken away, luckily we have a justice system for this (even if it fails a lot)
In reply to Post #1510
there is no ALM movement - it's just a lazy response from people who for whatever reason, feel the need to object to the BLM movement.
there is no ALM movement - it's just a lazy response from people who for whatever reason, feel the need to object to the BLM movement.
In reply to Post #1511
I know mate, but for the purposes of my explanation.
I know mate, but for the purposes of my explanation.
In reply to Post #1501
There are bigger pressing issues to address in this country than BLM for me. After god knows how many pages of discussions you are still trying to force your opinion down others throats. It's something you are passionate about. It's something I am not. I believe there are bigger issues to address, some of which I have posted below. They have opportunities and options, some people don't have any, simple.
As for supporting, I pay a large chunk of tax so I hope the government are going to use it well.
What have you done, for BLM?
There are bigger pressing issues to address in this country than BLM for me. After god knows how many pages of discussions you are still trying to force your opinion down others throats. It's something you are passionate about. It's something I am not. I believe there are bigger issues to address, some of which I have posted below. They have opportunities and options, some people don't have any, simple.
As for supporting, I pay a large chunk of tax so I hope the government are going to use it well.
What have you done, for BLM?
In reply to Post #1510
Don't you spout some utter bollox
Yes, ALM, even Greek ones
I think it's quite clear what I was getting at, or should be to anybody who can read between the lines
At what point in my post did I mention the groups you dragged up. Crimes get punished. Do you want to discuss that too, should we hang draw and quarter them all, I'm easy?
Don't you spout some utter bollox
Yes, ALM, even Greek ones
I think it's quite clear what I was getting at, or should be to anybody who can read between the lines
At what point in my post did I mention the groups you dragged up. Crimes get punished. Do you want to discuss that too, should we hang draw and quarter them all, I'm easy?
In reply to Post #1510
Thanks for clarifying
Thanks for clarifying