In reply to Post #135
Some had permission.
Some had permission.
Didn't Tel catch it 10 Yards or so from the edge.
Forgive me and i dont know the full story but reading between the lines..
...If he has had permission to fish where he did by the powers that be and been in dialogue to fish there with their consent then fair play to the fella. Who knows what he has done behind the scenes to earn that chance.
it wont be the first time someone has 'earned a better chance' to catch a target fish by playing smart to which the same oportunities may have been availble to anyone astute enough to act? (Tataon ommon par chance?)
End of the day this amazing fish is in his memories and in his album gents....
...If he has had permission to fish where he did by the powers that be and been in dialogue to fish there with their consent then fair play to the fella. Who knows what he has done behind the scenes to earn that chance.
it wont be the first time someone has 'earned a better chance' to catch a target fish by playing smart to which the same oportunities may have been availble to anyone astute enough to act? (Tataon ommon par chance?)
End of the day this amazing fish is in his memories and in his album gents....
is it a bit like this....?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls - hand of god?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls - hand of god?
In reply to Post #134
Didn't TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims. Didn't catch the BC from that area but caught just about everything else. Don't ask, don't get.
I tell you which post did get swept under the carpet, and it's the one asking if anyone's seen any other pictures of the capture apart from the side on one. Be nice to see the whole fish. I'm sure they are being reserved media articles or whatever but I'm sure we'd all like to see them.
Didn't TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims. Didn't catch the BC from that area but caught just about everything else. Don't ask, don't get.
I tell you which post did get swept under the carpet, and it's the one asking if anyone's seen any other pictures of the capture apart from the side on one. Be nice to see the whole fish. I'm sure they are being reserved media articles or whatever but I'm sure we'd all like to see them.
In reply to Post #132
The guy caught the BC and dependant on where your own ethics sit as a carp angler will justify if you think it was caught fair and square or caught from an island that covers a piece of water that hasn't been fished before and the fish shoal up for safety. For me personally it's a stain on the captures of the BC and cannot be related to the likes of TH, Laney, Oz, John Holt and the rest of the guys that caught it. There is no story or build up.
But that is exactly how Laney caught it - he got permission to cut and fish a swim that was previously not accessible. First session whallop, BC. Very well done too.
The guy caught the BC and dependant on where your own ethics sit as a carp angler will justify if you think it was caught fair and square or caught from an island that covers a piece of water that hasn't been fished before and the fish shoal up for safety. For me personally it's a stain on the captures of the BC and cannot be related to the likes of TH, Laney, Oz, John Holt and the rest of the guys that caught it. There is no story or build up.
But that is exactly how Laney caught it - he got permission to cut and fish a swim that was previously not accessible. First session whallop, BC. Very well done too.
In reply to Post #141
Didn't TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims
Yes he did, Tel, Nigel Sharp, Ev and a couple of others, did have use of that old clubhouse until the heath and safety brigade came down for a building inspection, and found that building had a asbestos roof.
That was the end of it. No one could use it after that..
I think they all had Cemex coverall tickets at the time, which may have helped get permission from Ian Welch
Didn't TH get permission to use the old clubhouses to store kit and use the facilities behind a few swims
Yes he did, Tel, Nigel Sharp, Ev and a couple of others, did have use of that old clubhouse until the heath and safety brigade came down for a building inspection, and found that building had a asbestos roof.
That was the end of it. No one could use it after that..
I think they all had Cemex coverall tickets at the time, which may have helped get permission from Ian Welch
In reply to Post #143
I have a question.............. Is this the bitterest thread in Carpforum history?
I have a question.............. Is this the bitterest thread in Carpforum history?
In reply to Post #144
Not even close.
Half the guys on here are saying well done.
Not even close.
Half the guys on here are saying well done.
In reply to Post #134
Pretty sure Terry used a bb to present the bait on a spot that couldn't be cast too?
So did Scott Lloyd as far as I am aware but they were allowed on there weren't they?
Pretty sure Terry used a bb to present the bait on a spot that couldn't be cast too?
So did Scott Lloyd as far as I am aware but they were allowed on there weren't they?
In reply to Post #146
If anyone really is that interested in the rules, out of bounds areas etc just go onto the Advanced Angling website and have a read. They are a very open about their 4 fisheries and have very sensible rules.
If anyone really is that interested in the rules, out of bounds areas etc just go onto the Advanced Angling website and have a read. They are a very open about their 4 fisheries and have very sensible rules.
In reply to Post #146
Yes Terry used a bb so he could fish the same spot as he fished from near the
old clubhouse, but the new swim was 160 yards. So he could not cast it. And yes bb's were allowed
Terry does not hide from the fact he used a bait boat as he explains it all in the talks he has done at the shows
Yes Terry used a bb so he could fish the same spot as he fished from near the
old clubhouse, but the new swim was 160 yards. So he could not cast it. And yes bb's were allowed
Terry does not hide from the fact he used a bait boat as he explains it all in the talks he has done at the shows
In reply to Post #148
So he preferred using a bait boat to a couple of casting lessons then?
In all seriousness I am not bitter about the capture at all, it makes no difference to me whatsoever, but as I have said before I do feel sorry for the other members IF it was caught by underhand methods.
I can imagine some feeling very hard done by if they are putting in loads of time trying to outwit that fish on one of the occasions it ventures into a fishable swim only to find that someone catches it from an out of bounds area.
As has also been pointed out allowing certain anglers to break the rules (if that is what has happened here) is a very slippery slope to go down when running a fishery.
So he preferred using a bait boat to a couple of casting lessons then?
In all seriousness I am not bitter about the capture at all, it makes no difference to me whatsoever, but as I have said before I do feel sorry for the other members IF it was caught by underhand methods.
I can imagine some feeling very hard done by if they are putting in loads of time trying to outwit that fish on one of the occasions it ventures into a fishable swim only to find that someone catches it from an out of bounds area.
As has also been pointed out allowing certain anglers to break the rules (if that is what has happened here) is a very slippery slope to go down when running a fishery.
Rumour has it that the otter fence has been cancelled & the money is now going to be put towards fencing off the islands 😉
In reply to Post #150
Good un that
Good un that