So then, what is the deal with this legendary flavour...
In today's world, what is considered the best brand to use?
I seem to remember reading/hearing that this flavour is not what it once was. If so - then why?
I remember Rod Hutchison once saying that he formulated this flavour with the intent on replicating the effect that ripe/fermenting fruit has on animals specifically as fruit is turning to alcohol. He used the example of Wasps acting dopey after feeding on fermenting fruit.
The first time I used Scopex in a mix was probably over 20 years ago now and it was very special.
I do have a bottle of NashBait Scopex No.1. Is this considered the number one (excuse the pun) type of Scopex flavour on the market now?
I have also had a read up on John Bakers Toppex and TM1 flavours which both seem to be formulated on Rods original theory of having a combination of flavours to replicate a certain signal type.
In today's world, what is considered the best brand to use?
I seem to remember reading/hearing that this flavour is not what it once was. If so - then why?
I remember Rod Hutchison once saying that he formulated this flavour with the intent on replicating the effect that ripe/fermenting fruit has on animals specifically as fruit is turning to alcohol. He used the example of Wasps acting dopey after feeding on fermenting fruit.
The first time I used Scopex in a mix was probably over 20 years ago now and it was very special.
I do have a bottle of NashBait Scopex No.1. Is this considered the number one (excuse the pun) type of Scopex flavour on the market now?
I have also had a read up on John Bakers Toppex and TM1 flavours which both seem to be formulated on Rods original theory of having a combination of flavours to replicate a certain signal type.
Although not called scopex, TM1 is probably the best out there now.
I don't think hutchies or Nash are what they once were.
I don't think hutchies or Nash are what they once were.
In reply to Post #2
I would say the Nash one hasn't changed for at least 15 years and is the only one I would even consider using....
I would say the Nash one hasn't changed for at least 15 years and is the only one I would even consider using....
In reply to Post #3
The Catchit one is much closer to the original Hutchie/Catchum one. The Nash is very different in my view. It's thinner, and has a far more harsh taste.
As regards JB's, Toppex is harsh and acidic, like a very strong version of the Nash one. Milky1 is better, but tbh, neither are like original Scopex.
The Catchit one is much closer to the original Hutchie/Catchum one. The Nash is very different in my view. It's thinner, and has a far more harsh taste.
As regards JB's, Toppex is harsh and acidic, like a very strong version of the Nash one. Milky1 is better, but tbh, neither are like original Scopex.
The original scopex sold in little white bottles early 80s was a fantastic flavour, within a few years it had changed, i asked RH If it had at one of the shows, and he reluctantly confirmed it had, and was now being made by another flavour house, was still a great flavour though.
In reply to Post #4
I have the catchit scopex. I don't remember the old scopex being the same...the stuff I have has a strong aniseed tone and taste to it.
I have the catchit scopex. I don't remember the old scopex being the same...the stuff I have has a strong aniseed tone and taste to it.
In reply to Post #1
Hi Jamie none are a touch on the original Scopex hutchy brought out in the 80's, the Nash version is nothing like the original. Shame but the reality is it was a mix formulated by hutchy so not an off the shelf attractor I seem to remember it was a product borne out of the original bream attractor. Good luck in your search but I think your looking for the holy grail of flavours which isn't available.
Michael
Hi Jamie none are a touch on the original Scopex hutchy brought out in the 80's, the Nash version is nothing like the original. Shame but the reality is it was a mix formulated by hutchy so not an off the shelf attractor I seem to remember it was a product borne out of the original bream attractor. Good luck in your search but I think your looking for the holy grail of flavours which isn't available.
Michael
In reply to Post #7
Sadly, you are correct.
Sadly, you are correct.
In reply to Post #8
Just out of interest, why isn't it the same anymore? What is it that's not available anymore to make it like it used to be or doesn't anyone know?
Just out of interest, why isn't it the same anymore? What is it that's not available anymore to make it like it used to be or doesn't anyone know?
In reply to Post #9
Diacetin
Diacetin
I got a pretty good version from abs a couple of years back. Don't think it was made available to the public but if they still have it it's worth a look. I got a half litre I've been using in corkballs.
In reply to Post #9
I really don't know.
I used to have loads of catchum flavours back in the day....30 years ago now. The scopex was buttery, rich....it was sublime. Caught everywhere. I have never seen a flavour like it since. It was an attractant in its own right. The Nash stuff is meant to be the closest, but just because it smells similar, which I don't actually think it does, does not mean that it is anything like the same compound.
Some of the other catchum flavours which I really rated.....maltrex, ultra spice, tropical spice....and lobster Thermidor, that was a really good one.
I really don't know.
I used to have loads of catchum flavours back in the day....30 years ago now. The scopex was buttery, rich....it was sublime. Caught everywhere. I have never seen a flavour like it since. It was an attractant in its own right. The Nash stuff is meant to be the closest, but just because it smells similar, which I don't actually think it does, does not mean that it is anything like the same compound.
Some of the other catchum flavours which I really rated.....maltrex, ultra spice, tropical spice....and lobster Thermidor, that was a really good one.
In reply to Post #6
Strange, I also have the Catchit Scopex and it isnt aniseedy at all? Its very very god though, certainly the best I have come across in recent times
Strange, I also have the Catchit Scopex and it isnt aniseedy at all? Its very very god though, certainly the best I have come across in recent times
In reply to Post #13
I have several versions
Catchit one is my favourite at the mo
I have several versions
Catchit one is my favourite at the mo
In reply to Post #9
Hi Colors
For many years i have collected vintage fragrances/colognes, like 80s and 90s versions of Givenchy Gentleman . In the year 2000 the IFRA and EU banned certain ingredients like Civet and oakmoss and a whole host of other essential ingredients that were considered allergens, but they made these fragrances so special. This also included the flavour houses for the food industry where most of the original and best flavours came from. So the sad part is we will never see them replicated to the same standard as the originals. They are gone forever.
Hi Colors
For many years i have collected vintage fragrances/colognes, like 80s and 90s versions of Givenchy Gentleman . In the year 2000 the IFRA and EU banned certain ingredients like Civet and oakmoss and a whole host of other essential ingredients that were considered allergens, but they made these fragrances so special. This also included the flavour houses for the food industry where most of the original and best flavours came from. So the sad part is we will never see them replicated to the same standard as the originals. They are gone forever.