In reply to Post #43
Indeed, spot on mate.
Indeed, spot on mate.
NHS and McLaren have reverse engineered a piece of existing equipment and come up with a device that gets oxygen to the lungs without need for a ventilator.
If it's approved, mclaren can make 1000 a day which will free up ventilators for the most critical patients.
Maybe moving forward, cutting edge industrial engineers will remember this and continue to give valuable help to the NHS... one can hope eh?
If it's approved, mclaren can make 1000 a day which will free up ventilators for the most critical patients.
Maybe moving forward, cutting edge industrial engineers will remember this and continue to give valuable help to the NHS... one can hope eh?
In reply to Post #46
Good news
I've also heard of hard to get medical parts being made by 3D printer enthusiasts
Good news
I've also heard of hard to get medical parts being made by 3D printer enthusiasts
In reply to Post #46
Hi Mal,
I've seen this news and in fact, it's Mercedes who have worked in conjunction with University College London's mechanical engineers and University London Hospital clinicians to adapt and improve an existing breathing aid. It has already been approved by the Medical Association for NHS use and is currently on trial in the ULH. This process has incredibly been made in only 10 days. It's expected to be given the go ahead, then Mercedes can start producing them from next week at a rate of 1000 per day.
This device is non invasive like a full respirator, and forces air/oxygen into a patient's lungs and is for the less critical patients, so leaving the full respirators for the critically ill.
Really good news and great credit to those technicians who worked night and day to produce this life saving device so quickly.
BB.
Hi Mal,
I've seen this news and in fact, it's Mercedes who have worked in conjunction with University College London's mechanical engineers and University London Hospital clinicians to adapt and improve an existing breathing aid. It has already been approved by the Medical Association for NHS use and is currently on trial in the ULH. This process has incredibly been made in only 10 days. It's expected to be given the go ahead, then Mercedes can start producing them from next week at a rate of 1000 per day.
This device is non invasive like a full respirator, and forces air/oxygen into a patient's lungs and is for the less critical patients, so leaving the full respirators for the critically ill.
Really good news and great credit to those technicians who worked night and day to produce this life saving device so quickly.
BB.
In reply to Post #48
You're right it is Mercedes
It's brilliant news and could save so many lives
You're right it is Mercedes
It's brilliant news and could save so many lives
In reply to Post #48
My son was on CPAP for a while as he was premature, I can imagine it will help those having difficulty with lung capacity and inhalation.. it's actually a gently forced oxygen mix that allows normal breathing and no sedation. Not sure if it can operate properly without air escaping as it basically stops the lungs completely deflating, which a healthy lung will do naturally, by keeping enough constant air passing over the mouth/nose to keep lungs partially inflated.. I'd have thought the air in the ward/unit will be full of airborne virus, but must have been accounted for in being re-engineered to meet regs.
It kept my lad alive, so I'm all for it
My son was on CPAP for a while as he was premature, I can imagine it will help those having difficulty with lung capacity and inhalation.. it's actually a gently forced oxygen mix that allows normal breathing and no sedation. Not sure if it can operate properly without air escaping as it basically stops the lungs completely deflating, which a healthy lung will do naturally, by keeping enough constant air passing over the mouth/nose to keep lungs partially inflated.. I'd have thought the air in the ward/unit will be full of airborne virus, but must have been accounted for in being re-engineered to meet regs.
It kept my lad alive, so I'm all for it
In reply to Post #50
Panic buying of foot pumps, fish tank air pumps and gaffer tape next.
Panic buying of foot pumps, fish tank air pumps and gaffer tape next.
In reply to Post #50
Gentle breeze for an infant maybe...............
My wife likened it to having her head stuck out of a car window at 40mph ..........after her heart surgery she was on it every other hour for 4/5 days.
A fishing buddy has a portable unit ( for sleep apnea ) .......the noise it makes is deafening if not sealed to his face properly.............
It will give him half a chance if the worst comes to the worst.
Gentle breeze for an infant maybe...............
My wife likened it to having her head stuck out of a car window at 40mph ..........after her heart surgery she was on it every other hour for 4/5 days.
A fishing buddy has a portable unit ( for sleep apnea ) .......the noise it makes is deafening if not sealed to his face properly.............
It will give him half a chance if the worst comes to the worst.
In reply to Post #52
Yeah he was on it 24/7 for a bit
Did the mask have a sealed fit on your wife?
I can't imagine that air forced into your lungs would help exhaling!
Small price to pay not to have ocelots heath Robinson footpump ventilator or being dead I suppose
Yeah he was on it 24/7 for a bit
Did the mask have a sealed fit on your wife?
I can't imagine that air forced into your lungs would help exhaling!
Small price to pay not to have ocelots heath Robinson footpump ventilator or being dead I suppose
In reply to Post #53
In reply to Post #54
round of applause for jeff bezos who managed to make £4.25bn by short selling his amazon stock just two weeks before this pandemic hit - no suggestion he did anything wrong of course, his timing is just naturally great. Stelios at easyjet also giving himself £60 mil dividends in feb 2020 also a highlight. Almost as if they knew something was up. Made my day anyway x
round of applause for jeff bezos who managed to make £4.25bn by short selling his amazon stock just two weeks before this pandemic hit - no suggestion he did anything wrong of course, his timing is just naturally great. Stelios at easyjet also giving himself £60 mil dividends in feb 2020 also a highlight. Almost as if they knew something was up. Made my day anyway x
In reply to Post #53
I cannot describe how she found the strength to fight them every time they put the mask on....She hated it.
All a distant memory now though
I cannot describe how she found the strength to fight them every time they put the mask on....She hated it.
All a distant memory now though
In reply to Post #56
Hi Croc,
Having read some info, it seems that CPAP devices are mainly used for people with sleep apnea and that some patients find them difficult to get used to. So, your wife having had it applied hour on hour off, seems odd and not user friendly.
It seems they are also used for patients that can use their lungs to breathe, but are not getting enough oxygen, like with asthma and COPD. Obviously they are being made to help combat the virus pandemic, because the NHS doesn't have that many of them. I have COPD and in the high risk category, so am pleased they are due to be massed produced and in my case, for future reference. It's interesting that mobile devices are also available for use at home and, perhaps, as you said, even when fishing.
BB.
Hi Croc,
Having read some info, it seems that CPAP devices are mainly used for people with sleep apnea and that some patients find them difficult to get used to. So, your wife having had it applied hour on hour off, seems odd and not user friendly.
It seems they are also used for patients that can use their lungs to breathe, but are not getting enough oxygen, like with asthma and COPD. Obviously they are being made to help combat the virus pandemic, because the NHS doesn't have that many of them. I have COPD and in the high risk category, so am pleased they are due to be massed produced and in my case, for future reference. It's interesting that mobile devices are also available for use at home and, perhaps, as you said, even when fishing.
BB.
In reply to Post #57
I'd have thought every hospital with maternity facilities has them too, or at least paediatric special care units.
Probably priced beyond the means of some trusts, like most things to do with healthcare. It's almost time to put the old cash cow out to pasture and actually invest in care
I'd have thought every hospital with maternity facilities has them too, or at least paediatric special care units.
Probably priced beyond the means of some trusts, like most things to do with healthcare. It's almost time to put the old cash cow out to pasture and actually invest in care
In reply to Post #58
Hi noj,
I think the proper respiratory units probably cost many £1000s because they are large, sophisticated pieces of kit, but the new CPAP units, I saw on the TV news, are small, and look less complicated devices, which I would hazard a guess will cost in the £100s, and probably be considered cost effective.
Given the conversion of buildings into Nightingale hospitals and the return of 20000 retired doctors and nurses etc. it seems the government isn't much focused on cost restraint.
BB.
Hi noj,
I think the proper respiratory units probably cost many £1000s because they are large, sophisticated pieces of kit, but the new CPAP units, I saw on the TV news, are small, and look less complicated devices, which I would hazard a guess will cost in the £100s, and probably be considered cost effective.
Given the conversion of buildings into Nightingale hospitals and the return of 20000 retired doctors and nurses etc. it seems the government isn't much focused on cost restraint.
BB.