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popups critically balanced or overweighted (13 posts / 3,375 views)
SteveyT SteveyT
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Post #1 11 Sep 2024 13:00
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As the title says. On say a hinged stiff rig, do you critically balance your popup or have it fast sinking, and why?
MiniWelsh MiniWelsh
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Post #2 12 Sep 2024 22:02
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In reply to Post #1
If fishing in weed I try to balance it so it sits on/in the weed. If fishing on silt or a relatively clear bottom I prefer to overweight it. I think that little bit of extra weight helps with hook holds and removes any doubt about whether or not it is presented well. No idea of my reasoning is sound, but it works for me so I stick to it
SteveyT SteveyT
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Post #3 12 Sep 2024 23:40
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In reply to Post #2
Thanks for the reply mate. Yeah that makes complete sense to me. I've mostly stayed away from popups to be honest, usually just using bits of them to add a bit of buoyancy to bottom baits. Place I'm fishing is mostly silt so was thinking along the lines of really overweighting a popup as a single, the extra weight to add to the bolt effect.
inzenity inzenity
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Post #4 13 Sep 2024 11:59
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When i started carping i always looked down upon any form of bolt rig fishing, true anglers fish with a float or a free line. So then you use a bb size as your last split shot to balance your float and worry if that is not too much resistance Fast forward to now and fishing bolt rigs, i still tend to go critically balanced, but having seen the unnatural movement of pop ups (especially with a bit of current) add a little bit more to keep it in place.
ip100 ip100
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Post #5 13 Sep 2024 12:04
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In reply to Post #1
I dont think when you critically balance something in the edge, or in a little pot, it acts that way out in the water due to the difference in pressure so it's not as relevant as some people think imo
framey framey
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Post #6 13 Sep 2024 12:50
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If you believe this kind of stuff

https://www.properjobpopups.co.uk/water_pressure.php
ip100 ip100
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Post #7 13 Sep 2024 13:45
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https://www.wychwoodcarp.co.uk/news/post/everything-you-need-to-know-about-pop-ups-with-jon-mac

Another take on it
SteveyT SteveyT
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Post #8 13 Sep 2024 16:26
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Some great information there. Thank you
Teddybare
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Post #9 15 Sep 2024 15:49
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Anything critically balanced will not be on the deck when a sizeable carp moves in.
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #10 16 Sep 2024 17:32
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In reply to Post #5
I agree 👍
Spike Spike
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Post #11 17 Sep 2024 21:02
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In reply to Post #5
Absolutely. But depth dependent. 2-10ft I don't change anything
vossy1 vossy1
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Post #12 18 Sep 2024 16:59
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Why is it when people set them up for critically balanced they test them in the edge for a few seconds and it's like...yes, that's perfect. Leave it there for an hour, see what happens, it'll be popped up like a goodun, bubbles all over it, unless your lucky enough , or not, to have little fish peck them away.
runneil runneil
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Post #13 21 Sep 2024 09:26
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In reply to Post #1
A friend of mine used to take an age critically balancing his pop ups, but he seemed to foul hook more than his fair share of fish, normally in the pectoral fin , this was obviously happening when the fish moved in to feed the hookbait was floating all over the place.

With a stiff hinge I like to add enough weight so it kicks the rig out on a semi stiff boom but not critically balanced.
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