Does checking your rig for turning over and catching into your palm actually equate to a good or bad rig ? I'm not sure it's an accurate way of testing if a rig works well? Thoughts people ?
In reply to Post #1
Nope, unless you're trying to catch hands
Nope, unless you're trying to catch hands
In reply to Post #1
If you are using a rig that you want to turn and be point down as a fish straightens the hook length then yes I think it's a good test. For pop ups not so good and if the fish are sucking and blowing again not so relevant.
I do find it shows up the sharpness of the hook, the difference between a really sharp hook and a "sharp" hook shows up well.
If you are using a rig that you want to turn and be point down as a fish straightens the hook length then yes I think it's a good test. For pop ups not so good and if the fish are sucking and blowing again not so relevant.
I do find it shows up the sharpness of the hook, the difference between a really sharp hook and a "sharp" hook shows up well.
In reply to Post #1
Absolute waste of time. It doesn't even nearly represent how your rig behaves when a fish is taking it in.
Absolute waste of time. It doesn't even nearly represent how your rig behaves when a fish is taking it in.
I'm with Posts 2 and 4
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And post 5 for the nail test
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And post 5 for the nail test
In reply to Post #1
Waste of time IMO . . .the nail test for sharp hooks is the only one I do and frequently. . .
Waste of time IMO . . .the nail test for sharp hooks is the only one I do and frequently. . .
I don't bother with the "palm test" as such as in reality, where is a flat surface in a Carps mouth for the hook to turn over and catch.
All I do is draw the rig over the back of my hand or a finger with the hook and bait dangling over the side of my hand or finger and if the hook turns and sticks into my hand or finger, that is good enough for me as it represents the hook and bait in a Carps mouth and as it turns and moves off, it catches on the inside of its mouth.
It is surprising though how many times the hook will not turn doing it this way and you have to alter things to make it do so.
All I do is draw the rig over the back of my hand or a finger with the hook and bait dangling over the side of my hand or finger and if the hook turns and sticks into my hand or finger, that is good enough for me as it represents the hook and bait in a Carps mouth and as it turns and moves off, it catches on the inside of its mouth.
It is surprising though how many times the hook will not turn doing it this way and you have to alter things to make it do so.
There is a video somewhere of using something like a coke bottle over a rig to simulate a carps sucking and blowing
That I can see being more akin to what you need if you want to see how it reacts.
That I can see being more akin to what you need if you want to see how it reacts.
I still do it but absolutely no idea why - but it feels good in my head, and proves to me a proper old school line aligner does exactly as it is supposed to (on dry land on my hand) and on landed fish. The best thing I have learnt in recent years (by many anglers) is to get a decent tether weight (on all baits) 2" below the hook, shot, putty whatever, getting the hook to drop once the mouth is closed or on attempted ejection is more important to me
Back of hand test 100%, if it fails this I won't put it out. Rig mechanics are pretty simple once you work out where the fundamental factors are and how they work even in a suck / blow situation. Sharp hook is key..
KD rig will fail the palm test over and over
I do a version of it all of the time when trying a new rig . bait combo.
bait goes in the middle of my open palm & hooklink goes between my forefinger & thumb, attached to a lead. I bring my finger & thumb together & then lift my hand up, as the hooklink tightens, the hook should catch on my palm / finger / thumb. size of bait, length of hair, suppleness of hooklink, kicker type all make a difference IMO.
deffo a correlation between the rigs that catch the quickest / every time compared to bites from the lake.
bait goes in the middle of my open palm & hooklink goes between my forefinger & thumb, attached to a lead. I bring my finger & thumb together & then lift my hand up, as the hooklink tightens, the hook should catch on my palm / finger / thumb. size of bait, length of hair, suppleness of hooklink, kicker type all make a difference IMO.
deffo a correlation between the rigs that catch the quickest / every time compared to bites from the lake.
In reply to Post #13
Interesting approach, I'll be trying this next time I'm on the bank.
Interesting approach, I'll be trying this next time I'm on the bank.
Sharp hook is essential and should be checked all of the time, thats N1
I have played around with the palm test. I use my thumb and forefinger to make a ring, aka ****er style and pull the rig thought this with the thinking its like a carp mouth, hook should flip over if that's what you are looking to test.
Just for the record, we are talking fishing, palm test ****ing style
I have played around with the palm test. I use my thumb and forefinger to make a ring, aka ****er style and pull the rig thought this with the thinking its like a carp mouth, hook should flip over if that's what you are looking to test.
Just for the record, we are talking fishing, palm test ****ing style
