What rigs would you suggest for a shallow silty lake with silkweed.. most spots 3 to 5ft deep...
Currently working on 3 rigs... 1. Snowman on helicopter set up.. relatively long 8" set 6" above lead.. 2. Stiff d rig with a wafter on a chod set up..3. a helicopter Ronnie rig..
Due to carp size majority mid doubles with a few more to high 20.. I feel like the Ronnie rig is too blatant in the shallow water... More success on the other 2 ?
Thoughts... Advice please
Currently working on 3 rigs... 1. Snowman on helicopter set up.. relatively long 8" set 6" above lead.. 2. Stiff d rig with a wafter on a chod set up..3. a helicopter Ronnie rig..
Due to carp size majority mid doubles with a few more to high 20.. I feel like the Ronnie rig is too blatant in the shallow water... More success on the other 2 ?
Thoughts... Advice please
There's an area of my syndicate with a very shallow plateau, (4-5ft) and it gets covered in silkweed, not mega thick - a couple of inches at the most.
I tackled it by first finding the clear spots, then fishing either a wafer or a ronnie with PVA foam nuggets.
Problem with silkweed, is that most of the time you'll still feel a rock hard "donk" on the drop, and it's very difficult to know if you're in the clear, or right in the weed.
By using a PVA foam nugget, I know that my hookbait is suspended above all the detritus for a few seconds, before it floats down and settles on top, I use a balanced wafter the sinks really slowly.
The rig I had the most success with, was a german rig with either a wafter boilie, or wafter plastic corn, I also use very long hooklengths, (13-14 inches, of green super soft ultraskin)
I also sometimes swapped out the PVA foam, for a PVA mesh bag full of crushed boilie and pellets.
You also want to get your spodding MEGA accurate, otherwise the carp will tear about in the weed and sometimes your hookbait will get lost whilst they eat the spod mix, accurate spodding is one of the most important bits imo.
(Landed fish to 46lb using this method, in silkweed)
I tackled it by first finding the clear spots, then fishing either a wafer or a ronnie with PVA foam nuggets.
Problem with silkweed, is that most of the time you'll still feel a rock hard "donk" on the drop, and it's very difficult to know if you're in the clear, or right in the weed.
By using a PVA foam nugget, I know that my hookbait is suspended above all the detritus for a few seconds, before it floats down and settles on top, I use a balanced wafter the sinks really slowly.
The rig I had the most success with, was a german rig with either a wafter boilie, or wafter plastic corn, I also use very long hooklengths, (13-14 inches, of green super soft ultraskin)
I also sometimes swapped out the PVA foam, for a PVA mesh bag full of crushed boilie and pellets.
You also want to get your spodding MEGA accurate, otherwise the carp will tear about in the weed and sometimes your hookbait will get lost whilst they eat the spod mix, accurate spodding is one of the most important bits imo.
(Landed fish to 46lb using this method, in silkweed)
In reply to Post #1
Helicopter, use lightest lead you can. Long links, balanced bait and the main thing is barbless Hooks. Silk weed less likely to mask the hook . Something I read many many moons ago after losing loads over silkweed
Helicopter, use lightest lead you can. Long links, balanced bait and the main thing is barbless Hooks. Silk weed less likely to mask the hook . Something I read many many moons ago after losing loads over silkweed
In reply to Post #1
I fish a very shallow lake absolutely full of weed and silkweed.
A short coated braid Multi-rig with a size 4 straight shank hook, tiny 12mm pop-up and a 3oz running lead, and a snowman bait 15mm bottom and a 12mm pop-up topper on a braided hooklink and a line-aligned Gardner Mugga size 4, putting everything in a PVA bag full of chops and bits has worked for me.
The main problem to be honest has been the bird life, swans, coots and gulls hitting the baits.
I fish a very shallow lake absolutely full of weed and silkweed.
A short coated braid Multi-rig with a size 4 straight shank hook, tiny 12mm pop-up and a 3oz running lead, and a snowman bait 15mm bottom and a 12mm pop-up topper on a braided hooklink and a line-aligned Gardner Mugga size 4, putting everything in a PVA bag full of chops and bits has worked for me.
The main problem to be honest has been the bird life, swans, coots and gulls hitting the baits.
Thanks for replies .. last year was the first year I felt like I got to grips with the place and landed a few , felt confident at times. things I think I'm gonna incorporate are tight baiting up with a rig that resets itself if disturbed, I like the idea of a spread of boilies and it has worked , however maybe pulling in everything bream/tench etc with boilies and sweetcorn with a rig that resets itself might get me bites quicker. I love a snowman but can't fish it on long braided rigs does my confidence no good.. and you have to sit behind confident rods, maybe I should put one rod in a deeper margin on a PVA bag set up if I can find an area..
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I love a snowman but can't fish it on long braided rigs does my confidence no good..
You could use a snowman on a long fluro hooklength, (or any hooklength you wish) and combining it with 10-15ft of thick fluro leader (I use 30lb mirage 0.50), (no leadcore or rig tubing),
If you're fishing in silkweed or a cluttered bottom, I cannot recommend PVA foam nuggets enough, they'll help prevent the rig tangling - and they pretty much ensure the rig will settle and present properly.
I love a snowman but can't fish it on long braided rigs does my confidence no good..
You could use a snowman on a long fluro hooklength, (or any hooklength you wish) and combining it with 10-15ft of thick fluro leader (I use 30lb mirage 0.50), (no leadcore or rig tubing),
If you're fishing in silkweed or a cluttered bottom, I cannot recommend PVA foam nuggets enough, they'll help prevent the rig tangling - and they pretty much ensure the rig will settle and present properly.
In reply to Post #6
What about a small PVA stick mix to mask the hook point?
What about a small PVA stick mix to mask the hook point?
In reply to Post #5
My braided rigs over silkweed are around 6-9inches with a running lead.
I put everything in a PVA bag.
Hook in bottom corner, lead in opposite corner, fill up with chops and bits, then pulling the mainline, pull the lead up the bag but so it's still in the mix. Lick, twist and stick the top of the bag around the mainline.
My braided rigs over silkweed are around 6-9inches with a running lead.
I put everything in a PVA bag.
Hook in bottom corner, lead in opposite corner, fill up with chops and bits, then pulling the mainline, pull the lead up the bag but so it's still in the mix. Lick, twist and stick the top of the bag around the mainline.