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Blowback rig with birdlife (12 posts / 1,811 views)
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
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Post #1 20 Dec 2022 16:21
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Evening all,

I've been fishing a lake lately that is very shallow, where the birdlife likes to pay particular attention to your hookbaits.

My question is, once you guys have been picked up by birdlife, how many of you are happy to leave your rig out, hoping it has reset and is fishing effectively, and how many will reel in and cast again?

I've mentioned the blowback rig as that's my favoured rig, however how many times do you think the silicone tubing slides up towards the hook eye and effects the rig mechanics?
Jamesvg Jamesvg
Posts: 1,165
Post #2 20 Dec 2022 16:43
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I had my pb last year about 10minutes after a coot brought my bait clean out of the water and dropped it again. As long as I'm confident that the bait is still intact/on the hair.
Whilst I'd rather the silicone be in position, once pushed back up the shank it will become a standard hair rig/knotless knot.
framey framey
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Post #3 20 Dec 2022 17:03
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In reply to Post #1
I thought it would only go back up the shank if it had been “blown out”
Winding in or casting out doesn't move it
So would a bird move it?






Edited as half was missing
MARKerz
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Post #4 20 Dec 2022 19:56
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Same as James, as long as I feel confident that the bait is still attached I'd be fine with it.
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
Posts: 341
Post #5 20 Dec 2022 22:26
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In reply to Post #3
Tough one isn't it, I suppose if the bird pulled it hard enough it would move it up the shank. It's more curiosity why I'm asking, I've tried both ways, I suppose both ways have negativity. But you see a lot of anglers now who seem happy the birds are feeding in the swim as it potentially attracts carp, so potentially leaving it may be the better option
mark1009
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Post #6 21 Dec 2022 01:52
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That's why I use a ring rather than a piece of tubing. The ring resets when the bait is sucked at by the carp.
mushageez
Posts: 131
Post #7 21 Dec 2022 16:33
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In reply to Post #1
A ring is much better than using a piece of slack silicone on the shank for a blow back rig.

If i'm using silicone on the hook, then its to hold the hair in position and will only be moved if it gets blown out from a fish.

Two different types of set up imo.
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
Posts: 341
Post #8 21 Dec 2022 17:30
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In reply to Post #7
The ring is something I used for years, not sure why I lost confidence in it tbh. I'm a little wary of a ring allowing a little tangle of the bait around the hook, whereas I feel silicone tubing makes it less likely to tangle yet unlikely to reset perfect after being picked up.

Funny how a simple change can mess with your head sometimes 😂😂😂
Jamesvg Jamesvg
Posts: 1,165
Post #9 21 Dec 2022 19:11
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I previously used a ring which is what I see as a true blowback rig. However these days I use silicone to trap the hair right around the bend so it exits in line with the point - much like Terry Hearns rig which I think he calls a claw? I fish it with bottom baits with the aim of hooking the fish as it tightens to the lead.
However as a result pulling the bait/hair, as when a bird picks up the bait, slides the silicone up the shank to the start of the bend of the hook. However as I used to catch plenty using a normal knotless knot I'm not bothered by this as per my original post.

My true blowback rig, that I consider to be the ring version, used to tangle around the hook too much so has been replaced with a D rig which is used with a water.
AaronB1992 AaronB1992
Posts: 341
Post #10 22 Dec 2022 09:27
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In reply to Post #9
Yeah it's the tangling round the hook that put me off. I used it for years but just lost confidence in it. Funny you mention the knotless knot, just as this is why sometimes I think we overthink it. Always did the trick.

mrbrightside
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Post #11 22 Dec 2022 14:17
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In reply to Post #10
knotless knot - plain old and simple but sometimes you cannot beat that
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #12 22 Dec 2022 16:05
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In reply to Post #1
Tufties, coots, swans, even gulls can be a right pain.

I have had fish take after the coots have been playing with the bait, but I found with a sliding ring or tubing on the shank that they could tangle it, as could crayfish.

I went back to a knotless knot, and tights/stocking meshed baits (or wooden balls with crays) to prevent them being pulled off the hair.

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