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Rig advice for beginner (15 posts / 4,388 views)
calgaz
Posts: 146
Post #2 31 May 2021 17:25
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I am pretty new to carp fishing and there seem to be so many different rigs I could use, was just wondering what people would recommend
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #3 31 May 2021 17:35
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In reply to Post #2
Really does depend on the bottom your fishing over but start off with a standard knotless knot rig. Adding a shot of u want to use it as a pop up rig. Learn your way into using what rigs for certain situations. Ie I like a Fluoro d rig for clean hard bottom or hinge stiff for light debris/weed. I always find myself casting out a knot Les knot standard rig on at least one rod.
framey framey
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Post #4 31 May 2021 18:46
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In reply to Post #2
You could get away with just 1 if you alter the length of the hair
2 if you want a pop up rig and a bottom bait rig
3 if you want a bottom, wafter and a pop up rig.
Or you can have a whole box full
kevan67 kevan67
Posts: 136
Post #5 19 Jun 2021 22:02
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In reply to Post #1
Best advice is to keep it simple to start with.choose a couple of simple rigs and stick to them. Don't keep changing for the sake of changing.

A simple knot less knot or German rig will do the majority of what you need for wafters and bottom baits.

If you want a pop up rig then the multi rig is hard to beat.

Plenty of videos on YouTube.

Spend your time and effort learning watercraft. Find the fish and everything will get easier and your confidnece will gro..

Start fishing some higher stock runs waters, when you catch a fish make note of where it is hooked and how good a hook hold you have. You can then experiment by extending or shortening the length of your rig and hair depending what the lake bottom is you are fishing over and the type of hook holds you are getting.

Good luck and enjoy your fishing it's a lifelong journey, no need to rush 👍
NeilH2320
Posts: 147
Post #6 20 Jun 2021 16:09
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In reply to Post #2
Standard hair rig, 7 to 9 turn knotless knot tied to an ESP Classic, or Gardner Incizor in sizes 6, or 4. There are kickers available now, so you don't have to faff about with shrink tube. You can add a rig ring or tubing to give the rig a blow back effect if you want, but it's not essential.

Use a coated braid like ESP Tungsten Loaded and tie the rig around 7 to 8 inches long to a size 8 ring swivel and you won't go wrong.

The rig is ideal for using bottom baits, snowman and pop ups. You can learn more about other rigs as you go along
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #7 20 Jun 2021 16:52
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In reply to Post #6
I imagine to a learner reading that its like reading chinese.
NeilH2320
Posts: 147
Post #8 20 Jun 2021 17:02
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In reply to Post #7
By your logic then, all beginners are stupid.

I've only stated very basic info 😂
LondonCarper107 LondonCarper107
Posts: 187
Post #9 20 Jun 2021 21:27
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In reply to Post #2
Keep it simple, and dont get wrapped up with all the stuff like rig rings and shrink tube, a braided hooklink with a standard knotless knot will catch fish, but if casting out then braid may tangle so look for some semi stiff coated braid, and use the same rig but with the last 2-3 inches strip back the coating to create a supple section. If you are really struggling then another option is ready tied rigs, but they can work out to be expensive, but a good thing to do is try and tie your own rigs from inspiration from the ready ties or look up on youtube some tutorials. One I recommend is Fishing Tutorials channel on youtube, great stuff on there, and if your unsure about anything just ask on here, many people will be happy to help you. Hope this helps mate
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #10 21 Jun 2021 15:59
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In reply to Post #2
I would recommend you don't get caught up on all the different rigs I started Carp fishing over 30 years ago and these are still my 'go to' rigs or variations on them, they will cover most situations though naturally not all.

1 braid,knotless knot hair, curved shank hook,
2 coated braid, again knotless knot, personally for me straight shank hook.

I'll be burnt as a heathen for this but I've never used most of the modern rigs though probably like most people I've bought the stuff to tie them and it clutters up my tackle box. I also never really used pop ups until a few years ago, always preferring a 1/2 pop up to 1/2 bottom bait butterflied back to back

(runs off to get tin hat )
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #11 21 Jun 2021 17:40
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KD rig for bottom baits. Cant get any simpler than that.

Multi rig for pop-ups. Again, a simple rig to tie.
redduke redduke
Posts: 557
Post #12 22 Jun 2021 10:58
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In reply to Post #2
If you want to use one rig - Slip D rig is very effective and can be used with bottom baits, wafters and pop-ups

very easy to make - look on Garner You Tube with the 'inventor' martin clarke showing how to tie etc

A simple knotless knot with a line aligner can be used with the above hookbait options - the likes of simon crow has used this for 30yrs and still does.
SHimmer45 SHimmer45
Posts: 664
Post #13 22 Jun 2021 15:11
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In reply to Post #2
the gardner rig PDF which you can get from their website offers sensible advice and ideas on what bits from the range to use if you are completely stuck.

if your using an uncoated braid use a big bait / PVA stringer etc to keep it away from the lead.

i wouldnt even use a multi for popups
coated braid with the last few inches striped so you can attach a hook with a bait.

check out fishing tutorials (carl and alex on you tube for pointers)
simple no faff advices
mark1009
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Post #14 22 Jun 2021 17:48
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If you're a beginner have a look at Matthew Collins channel on u tube he gives very good sound advice and it's aimed at the non expert. Some good rig advice amongst the vids. You cannot fail to learn by watching his stuff.
NickGordon NickGordon
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Post #15 23 Jun 2021 17:20
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In reply to Post #2
Most of the time people use the latest fashionable rig, be it Ronnie rig, Chod rig (helicopter set-up) with very little thought other than what the magazines or online media publish; however in most cases you do not need to be so sophisticated, a simple knotless knotted rig maybe with a line aligner probably catches more fish, but does not sell fishing tackle.

Keep it simple, watch where the fish feed, put your simple knotless knot rig amongst them, with some freebies, be that pellet, particle, chopped and/or whole boilies and you should catch.

Location is normally far more important than the rig itself.

You can use that same simple rig for bottom baits, pop-ups or even snowman baits, and tie it from a multitude of hooklink materials; braid, coated braid, fluorocarbon, mono, from the soft mono of say 10lb up to stiffer 'hooklink' mono of 15 or 20lb Amnesia.
Monkeypox
Posts: 440
Post #16 7 Jul 2021 02:19
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Have to agree in keeping it simple , rigs are bottom dependant , learn the bottom composition of your swim by use of a marker float and lead , then cast out a suitable rig. A standard hair rig as mentioned in carp fever all those years ago will suffice for 95 percent of your fishing situations , the most important thing to consider when making rigs is to make sure that they don't tangle , and that they hook the fish.

Good luck.
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