Came across this video and it illustrates perfectly how dropping the lead on a helicopter lead setup is actually worse for fish safety
Helicopter rig safety
Helicopter rig safety
In reply to Post #1
That vid has been around for a while now, it's a shame more haven't seen it though. The amount of people on here that still advocate dropping leads on heli setups is rediculous
That vid has been around for a while now, it's a shame more haven't seen it though. The amount of people on here that still advocate dropping leads on heli setups is rediculous
In reply to Post #1
cant see why people are so fixated with dropping leads anyway.
cant see why people are so fixated with dropping leads anyway.
In reply to Post #3
Because it's necessary apparently
Because it's necessary apparently
In reply to Post #4
I never drop leads myself. If someone is fishing a spot that requires them to drop the lead then that spot is most likely an unsafe spot to be fishing.
I never drop leads myself. If someone is fishing a spot that requires them to drop the lead then that spot is most likely an unsafe spot to be fishing.
In reply to Post #5
Exactly that. People trying to justify fishing in areas that shouldn't be fished. Doesn't help with all of the free vids etc that are about these days with everyone dropping every lead all the time. Funny how it's always tackle manufacturers that show this though...
Exactly that. People trying to justify fishing in areas that shouldn't be fished. Doesn't help with all of the free vids etc that are about these days with everyone dropping every lead all the time. Funny how it's always tackle manufacturers that show this though...
In reply to Post #1
You do no you can stop your lead dropping on a Korda heli safe sleeve.
You do no you can stop your lead dropping on a Korda heli safe sleeve.
In reply to Post #7
I don't use Korda heli safes, strange name for a product that when used as intended is the least safe.
I don't use Korda heli safes, strange name for a product that when used as intended is the least safe.
In reply to Post #8
Heli unsafe
Heli unsafe
In reply to Post #7
I use the Nash jobbies with the silicone above the lead, It acts as buffer for lunging fish
I use the Nash jobbies with the silicone above the lead, It acts as buffer for lunging fish
In reply to Post #9
Exactly
Exactly
I've said on other threads how dropping the lead with heli rigs are bad so I won't go into much detail about it. If the lead drops off, there is no resistance for the fish to supposedly pull the rig off the leader. I have seen that video, maybe a few years ago and it enlightened me on how dropping the lead on a heli is a bad idea. Never dropped one since on that rig.
In reply to Post #1
Can I ask, the video is saying about the lead core, or a leader for that matter, coming away from the hook link when you lock the lead in place. Ace, cool, perfect.
What about inline lead core set ups, lead safety clip set up, cog lead set up, inline drop off. Surely all are designed to drop the lead if snagged, but if your hooklink is on a leader of any type then they are all bad.
Can I ask, the video is saying about the lead core, or a leader for that matter, coming away from the hook link when you lock the lead in place. Ace, cool, perfect.
What about inline lead core set ups, lead safety clip set up, cog lead set up, inline drop off. Surely all are designed to drop the lead if snagged, but if your hooklink is on a leader of any type then they are all bad.
In reply to Post #13
I agree if your line breaks due to a snag or crack off if your set up allows for the lead to disingage on any system you are still left with a rig and leader and length of line either attached to a fish or waiting for a fish to attach itself. You could use tubing and dispense with the leader but you still have line and rig out there.
How can a helicopter rig that drops the lead be any worse than a lead clip rig that drops the lead.
Even running rigs leave a fish attached to rig, leader if used, and line.
A helicopter rig with fixed heavy lead and a way for the rig to disingage is the safest option and is my go to rig.
However it is not suitable to all angling scenarios, weed between the fishing spot and the bank being the obvious one, in these situations I use a rig that drops the lead, the actual set up being the one I think will get most hook ups in the situation I'm fishing, be that lead clip, drop off in line or helicopter, they all result in the same effect if something goes wrong.
I agree if your line breaks due to a snag or crack off if your set up allows for the lead to disingage on any system you are still left with a rig and leader and length of line either attached to a fish or waiting for a fish to attach itself. You could use tubing and dispense with the leader but you still have line and rig out there.
How can a helicopter rig that drops the lead be any worse than a lead clip rig that drops the lead.
Even running rigs leave a fish attached to rig, leader if used, and line.
A helicopter rig with fixed heavy lead and a way for the rig to disingage is the safest option and is my go to rig.
However it is not suitable to all angling scenarios, weed between the fishing spot and the bank being the obvious one, in these situations I use a rig that drops the lead, the actual set up being the one I think will get most hook ups in the situation I'm fishing, be that lead clip, drop off in line or helicopter, they all result in the same effect if something goes wrong.
In reply to Post #13
spot on. I would say that the only safe option is a naked heli setup where by the top bead dissolves after a certain time frame maybe (patent pending)? and therefore allows the hooklink to be the only thing attached to the carp.
I think the pb hit and run system is very good on paper, dont know how effective it is in a real life situation however.
All other methods are potentially unsafe as the carp will always be trailing some sort of line.
spot on. I would say that the only safe option is a naked heli setup where by the top bead dissolves after a certain time frame maybe (patent pending)? and therefore allows the hooklink to be the only thing attached to the carp.
I think the pb hit and run system is very good on paper, dont know how effective it is in a real life situation however.
All other methods are potentially unsafe as the carp will always be trailing some sort of line.