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Using back leads (18 posts / 4,030 views)
HAPPYHAMMER
Posts: 256
Post #1 8 Nov 2020 17:24
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Hi all
I was playing a carp today for about 5 minutes then the back lead went down to the rig and i had a hook pull I'm using a korda 2.5g back lead but i am on a helicopter rig any help would be much appreciated
JC-Boi JC-Boi
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Post #2 8 Nov 2020 17:34
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Fox captive back lead is your anwser.. expensive but works
framey framey
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Post #3 8 Nov 2020 17:51
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In reply to Post #2
Not really expensive really as You only have to buy them the once lol
Halfcentury
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Post #4 8 Nov 2020 18:12
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In reply to Post #1
Don't see why a 2.5gm backlead should cause a hook pull. Anything is possible but hook pulls happen to us all. Wouldn't worry unless it happens regularly.
blank_bandit
Posts: 293
Post #5 10 Nov 2020 21:14
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In reply to Post #1
Fox is defo the way to go. Ask yourself do you need back leads
Victory Victory
Posts: 882
Post #6 16 Nov 2020 19:45
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In reply to Post #5
When using the fox captive leads always clip up as the line coming out of the clip makes sure the arm opens to realise the back lead.
Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #7 1 Dec 2020 19:09
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In reply to Post #1
. . .do you need a 25g backlead? Use the lightest possible . . . .
Ynnek
Posts: 889
Post #8 2 Dec 2020 15:39
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In reply to Post #1
Doubting if a sliding 2.5 back lead would case a hook pull when the fish is hook properly.

BRB BRB
Posts: 1,423
Post #9 2 Dec 2020 16:07
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In reply to Post #8
Didn't think Korda did a back lead anywhere near as small as that. 2.5 gr you probably have to make yourself using something like a swan shot.
HAPPYHAMMER
Posts: 256
Post #10 3 Dec 2020 16:30
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In reply to Post #9
sorry 25g
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #11 8 Dec 2020 14:04
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I used to use Gardner Captive BLs many moons ago, much cheaper than the Fox but not as convenient. I stopped using captives,as for me, they could gunk up with crap and when you strike go over your other lines, irrespective of tension set on the clip or striking straight up, proper PITA.

Could you not try a bead that can't pass the swivel on the hooklink (if your using 1)?
LochLondon
Posts: 194
Post #12 8 Dec 2020 18:21
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In reply to Post #11
I've had this with the Fox Captive Backleads, either where the mechanism has clogged or the backlead itself has wrapped around the line & won't come off - absolute nightmare.

I've reverted back to the traditional backleads but use the lightest one possible & one that pops off easily should it be snagged on anything - lose a few on the retrieve but overall seems to be a better system.

mushageez
Posts: 131
Post #13 10 Dec 2020 12:57
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In reply to Post #12
fox captive ones ideally want to be set up with the rod directly pointing at the rig / lead, so single banksticks are best to use.

If the water is shallow infront of the rods then that can cause issues with them releasing but if its that shallow then you probably dont need them, work best with a deep margin geez.
vossy1 vossy1
MODERATORMOD
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Post #14 10 Dec 2020 14:58
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In reply to Post #13
If the water is shallow infront of the rods then that can cause issues with them releasing but if its that shallow then you probably dont need them, work best with a deep margin geez.

Not getting that at all. Always best to have the BL under the tip, I used to have only the tip over edge of the water, the angle is always the same, doesn't matter the depth of water, and when I used them it was nearly always on shallow waters, for just that reason they're shallow and you want the line on the bottom.
If there's say a foot drop in front of the swim I'd have the BL a few feet out as there's always fish patrolling tight to the margin that will spook if you have a lead BL tight to the bank.
If the winds blowing into you and the crap is collecting in the margins you'd have to move the BL further out to avoid getting clogged up.
mushageez
Posts: 131
Post #15 10 Dec 2020 23:10
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In reply to Post #14
''Not getting that at all. Always best to have the BL under the tip''

huh? they would be under the tip that's why i mentioned about having everything inline for good indication.

I'm refering to the fox captive back leads and they dont always release if the water infront of the tips is shallow as theres no resistance from the water and they can come straight up out the water and not release, it happens geez.
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