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Chod/helicopter (15 posts / 2,980 views)
stokesy123 stokesy123
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Post #1 14 Mar 2018 17:28
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Good evening

Have been messing around with chod rigs and helicopter set ups lately with some success.
My only problem/question is, the bead that sits along the lead free leader moves up the leader far to easily then I think it should.
I set the depth before I cast allowing the chod to slide say 8inches but as soon as I cast it the bead just slips up the leader increasing the depth of the chod.

What am I doing wrong here?

Many thanks!

Scott777
Posts: 381
Post #2 14 Mar 2018 20:55
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In reply to Post #1
I've been recommended the korda 'no trace' beads. Look like they'll work but the only problem is once the bead comes off its gone forever ( this is because the bead isnt actually a bead, more of a c shape pushed onto a tiny tail rubber.) So you'll forever be buying damn beads. Maybe it's all just clever marketing by everyone's favourite tackle company.
chanmenie
Posts: 1,877
Post #3 14 Mar 2018 21:10
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In reply to Post #2
Korda no trace beads are very good, and make for a very safe set up.

Replacement beads are cheap and they only come off if the fish runs towards you.
James500 James500
Posts: 670
Post #4 14 Mar 2018 23:52
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In reply to Post #2
You can buy a pack of 50 of them for about 2 quid from korda. Hardly a rip off, ive been using them for a few years and have lost about 6 in that time

I find with lead free leaders, I use the nash one that the no trace system doesent grip as tightly as it does on leadcore and can slip up the line

To get round this I made up a few lengths of leader and set the rubber sleeve part the bead goes onto at different intervals on each one and stuck them with a dab of super glue

Whatever you do though, don't glue the bead!!!
stokesy123 stokesy123
Posts: 263
Post #5 15 Mar 2018 09:17
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In reply to Post #4
Cheers for the suggestions and I'm liking the sound of the Korda beads.
I use the fox pre tied leaders which come with the rubber sleeve and the small bead that sits on the sleeve, if I remove the supplied bead do you think that the Korda ones will sit snug on the tubing that is already on the leader?

Cheers
secret-agent secret-agent
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Post #6 15 Mar 2018 12:21
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I've always used 1cm of shrink tube shrunk onto the leader positioned wherever you want it, it will be tight enough to grip but loose enough to reposition where needed. Slide your top bead onto that, if it's too loose shrink another 1cm bit on the first bit.
Jimmers532
Posts: 893
Post #7 15 Mar 2018 17:05
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In reply to Post #4
I also found they are too loose for a lead free leader like fox submerge but If you use the Korda naked chod system on the 30lb version it's perfect, nice snug fit that only moves if it needs to, I use the lead core version on the 45lb submerge and that's perfect too 👍
Superterrorizer Superterrorizer
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Post #8 15 Mar 2018 18:07
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In reply to Post #6
works for me too.
James500 James500
Posts: 670
Post #9 15 Mar 2018 18:47
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In reply to Post #7
cheers for that, il swap over to that next time i need to re stock
CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,244
Post #10 15 Mar 2018 18:49
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In reply to Post #7
I always pinch close the no trace bead a very very tiny amount with some pliers. They stay on the leader much better and securer. And still slide off easy under any sort of tension
Jimmers532
Posts: 893
Post #11 15 Mar 2018 19:31
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In reply to Post #9
Works for me, prefer the fox submerge to leadcore is brilliant, won't be changing anytime soon 👍
CityKoi CityKoi
Posts: 3,244
Post #12 15 Mar 2018 21:32
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In reply to Post #11
I also only use submerge. Much better than leadcore which seems a bit redundant these days.
Mistral999
Posts: 157
Post #13 30 Jun 2020 19:56
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In reply to Post #7
Anyone know which Korda no trace (leadcore or naked version) would fit best on 40lb fox submerge leadfree? Previous post states the naked version is good on the 30lb version but I'm thinking the 40lb would be too thick for that so assuming the leadcore version would suit better
framey framey
Posts: 5,324
Post #14 30 Jun 2020 21:33
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In reply to Post #13
Leadcore version
shockleader shockleader
Posts: 317
Post #15 2 Jul 2020 17:10
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In reply to Post #8
And me. But I put some silicone tubing on first, then shrink the shrink tube over that.

I find it grips the leader better this way when wet.

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